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Rainy Day in Denver Doc Trivia

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:36 PM

Dwight Gooden made one regular-season start as a National Leaguer that wasn't for the Mets. It must have been strange pitching as an Astro in 2000, but at least he could take familiar and perhaps spiritual solace in having past and future Mets around him. In that one game, he was joined in the Houston box score by five former Mets and four future Mets...though one player in each category sits in both categories, so we're looking for eight players altogether.

Who kept Doc Metsian company in his one Astro outing? (No peeking for answers.) One name per guess, please.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 11 2011 01:39 PM
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Horseman Hidalgo!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 11 2011 01:40 PM
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Moises?

TransMonk
May 11 2011 01:40 PM
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Octavio Dotel

Frayed Knot
May 11 2011 01:41 PM
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Tim Bogar

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:42 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Horseman Hidalgo!


Correct!

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:42 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Moises?


Correct!

TransMonk
May 11 2011 01:42 PM
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Billy Wagner

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 11 2011 01:42 PM
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Lima Time?

Benjamin Grimm
May 11 2011 01:42 PM
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Roger Cedeno?

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:42 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
Octavio Dotel


Incorrect :(

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:43 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Tim Bogar


Correct!

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:43 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
Billy Wagner


Correct!

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:44 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Lima Time?


Incorrect :(

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:44 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Roger Cedeno?


Correct and Correct!

He's the once and future Met in this crowd.

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:46 PM
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To recap, thus far, Doc's teammates his one game as an Astro who were Mets to be were Moises Alou, Richard Hidalgo and Roger Cedeno.

Doc's teammates who were, like him, Mets upon a time were Roger Cedeno, Tim Bogar, and...?

Three names to go -- they do not include Octavio Dotel or Jose Lima.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 11 2011 01:46 PM
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Tim Redding?

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:48 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Tim Redding?


Not Tim Redding.

Chad Ochoseis
May 11 2011 01:53 PM
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Derek Bell?

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 01:54 PM
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Chad Ochoseis wrote:
Derek Bell?


Derek Bell...wearing No. 16 as a Doc tribute as a Met in 2000.

Edgy DC
May 11 2011 02:14 PM
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Jerry DiPoto.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 11 2011 02:16 PM
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Astacio?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 11 2011 02:20 PM
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Harnisch?

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 02:24 PM
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No DiPoto. No Astacio. No Harnisch.

Which sounds like something a poorly stocked ethnic grocer might tell you.

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 02:27 PM
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Hint: All three remaining former Mets sucked when being Mets. (Subjective, but I doubt I'd get an argument.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 11 2011 02:32 PM
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Hudek

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 02:33 PM
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Hudek not it.

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 02:34 PM
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Second hint: None of the remaining three were Mets at the same time, but one was a Met with Doc.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 11 2011 02:54 PM
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I'm getting a middle-infield vibe, only I'm pretty sure it's not Vizcaino, since he was a decent Met, and was busy preparing to f*ck us over in the Bronx.

Gwreck
May 11 2011 03:03 PM
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Bill Spiers?

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 03:30 PM
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Not Viz. Not Spiers.

Hint No. 3: They all pitched.

Fman99
May 11 2011 04:07 PM
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Mike Maddux? (I know this because I wrote an award winning song about this moe, G-Fafif might recall....)

G-Fafif
May 11 2011 04:15 PM
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Fman99 wrote:
Mike Maddux? (I know this because I wrote an award winning song about this moe, G-Fafif might recall....)


Don't have any recollection of what you're talking about, but yes, Mike Maddux is one of those fellows.

Two to go...

Gwreck
May 11 2011 07:32 PM
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Blas Minor?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 11 2011 09:30 PM
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If Doug Henry hasn't been guessed wrong yet I'd be happy to guess it.

G-Fafif
May 12 2011 05:17 AM
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Blas Minor...no.

Doug Henry...yes!

One to go.

G-Fafif
May 12 2011 05:20 AM
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Hint regarding the final former/future Met who played in Doc Gooden's only Astro appearance:

Even when he was a Met, you would watch him pitch and say "New York is not the place for him, and that is not merely per something I heard on a Better Than Ezra CD."

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 12 2011 05:25 AM
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ooooh, Mista Kottah!

G-Fafif
May 12 2011 06:07 AM
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ooooh, Mista Kottah!


I'll take that to mean, "Yorkis Perez," Horshack.

And you are correct.

The eight Mets who joined Doc Gooden in the Astro box score of April 8, 2000 were:

Roger Cedeno CF
Moises Alou RF
Richard Hidalgo LF
Tim Bogar SS
Mike Maddux P
Yorkis Perez P
Doug Henry P
Billy Wagner P

Former Met executive Gerry Hunsicker, then Astro GM, certainly wanted to make Doc -- who had made his MLB debut 16 years and 1 day earlier at the Astrodome -- feel comfortable (and was even prescient in bringing in several futre Mets, knowing someday Doc would return to us).

It didn't much help Gooden, who was lit up by the Phillies for 4 runs and 6 hits (and 3 walks) in just 4 innings before manager Larry Dierker pinch-hit for Gooden with future Met minor leaguer Russ Johnson. The Astros eventually came from behind to beat Rico Brogna (who had a double off Gooden; Rico's second Met game came in Doc's last Met start) and the Phillies 8-5. Maddux was the winning pitcher, Wagner got the save. It was the second regular-season game ever played at then Enron Field, and the first day game and first Astro win there.

The Astros sold Gooden's contract to the Devil Rays five days later.

On April 8, 2000, in Flushing, John Franco was called on to protect a 5-1 Mets lead in the eighth inning against the Dodgers but instead opted to give up four runs on a leadoff homer to Eric Karros and a three-run shot to Devon White. Scoring on the second home run was Kevin Elster; flying out before White homered was Jose Vizcaino. Like Franco, Elster and Vizcaino were former Met teammates of Gooden's. Eric Karros would homer off Armando Benitez in the tenth and the Mets would lose 6-5 when Tampa's own Derek Bell -- who grew up idolizing Doc and wore No. 16 as a tribute to the neighborhood hero -- struck out. (The Mets started Pat Mahomes, who pitched admirably for 5.2 innings; Glendon Rusch, that season's fifth starter, didn't settle into the rotation for another week.)