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Frayed Knot May 14 2011 06:39 PM

... about something. Slated to hit 9th in today's lineup, Posada told reporters prior to the game that he wasn't mad about it and how he realized that his hitting put himself in that position. But then he went into Girardi's office about an hour before first pitch and told him he wasn't ready to play. "There's no injury" involved is about all Cashman will say. Apparently Posada will have something to say after the game. Speculation ranges from a retirement announcement (and walk out on $13 mil - not bloody likely) to a suspension from the team for refusing to play, to the team taking steps to terminate his contact unless this mini-strike ends.

HahnSolo May 14 2011 06:56 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Impossible. He's a true Yankee! Core Four! All about the team and winning! This can't be!

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 14 2011 07:17 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

That's great. Thank Omar too for jacking up his price last time he was a free agent. Squat on this, Brian.

Fman99 May 14 2011 07:20 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

I think he couldn't play because he had the scoots in his diaper. The baby.

metirish May 14 2011 07:46 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Klapisch is making a holy show of himself on twitter BobKlap Posada in total no-win situation - salary, reputation, playing time - all at stake. Not even Jeter can back him on this. Um yeah , Jeter is well known for sticking up for his team mates.

G-Fafif May 14 2011 10:16 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

The postgame parade of hanging Posada out to dry may have been the most enjoyable MFY moment since 2004. At least as good as the Rangers bouncing them last October. Girardi made him sound like a pouting head case. YES was all "no, there's nothing physically wrong with him." And Posada didn't do himself any favors with "I needed a day." You know what day Real Yankees don't need? A game against their archrivals when then their archrivals' ace is on the mound.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 14 2011 10:40 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

What's more True Yankee-- opting out of the lineup against your team's chief rivals when your team's struggling offensively because you're hitting ninth (when you're basically on the roster as an honorarium anyway), or being the chief figurehead of an organization that [crossout:3k5unuaz]perpetually sucks itself off about[/crossout:3k5unuaz] prides itself on class and practically running to the mics postgame to BURY that first guy? I say the second.

Ceetar May 14 2011 10:58 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

and his wife rushed to twitter/facebook to make up a fake injury in defense of him. good stuff.

G-Fafif May 15 2011 01:15 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Dickey sucked Saturday, but at least he didn't throw a hissyfit about batting ninth.

Frayed Knot May 15 2011 05:45 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

The only post-game quotes I heard were Posada claiming he needed the time to "clear his head".. When a follow-up asked if this one game accomplished that he added something along the lines of, 'no, I'm going to need more time'. OK this could get interesting. Not least of which because between the DH spot and the Yanx carrying 13 pitchers Girardi starts the game with just 3 bench players: Posada, the backup IFer whathisname, plus and Cervelli the backup catcher.

Centerfield May 15 2011 05:53 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Have you seen his numbers? The best thing he can do for his team is to ask out of the lineup. What am amazing guy. Putting the team first.

Edgy DC May 15 2011 06:15 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

One can also read some Thor-like succession-bitterness backstory here, as Posada was orignally Giaradi's backup, and there was even increudlity among Yankee fans that a backup with a funny name like Jorge Freakin' Posada, and not Girardi was the catcher on a day when a perfect game was thrown.

MFS62 May 15 2011 09:25 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Frayed Knot wrote: The only post-game quotes I heard were Posada claiming he needed the time to "clear his head".. I've heard him speak. I'm not sure whether to classify that as unnecessary or redundant. Later

dgwphotography May 15 2011 10:07 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

so Jorge Posada is a whiney bitch... F'n shocker...

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 15 2011 09:51 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Posada apologizes, Joe accepts, gets a standing O as a PH tonight (walks)... and the MFYs swept at home. It's a feel-good story all-around.

G-Fafif May 15 2011 09:54 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

MFYs spent the entire weekend in need of a day. Cue the brooms.

Gwreck May 15 2011 10:44 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

I really wish we were playing the MFYs right NOW!!! instead of this coming weekend. Although maybe it'll be even better if they get trounced by the Devil Rays in Tampa this week first.

Number 6 May 15 2011 10:50 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

I'm gonna give some credit to Yankee fans for the standing O. Not sure if that sentiment will be popular around here, but I've had the occasional emotional blow-up day and I know I appreciated whatever forgiveness I got.

Gwreck May 16 2011 12:42 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

I don't know. Even viewed is as neutral as a light as possible (ie. setting aside my MFY-hatred), I can't see any way that Posada was anything other than 100% in the wrong. I guess it was nice that they appreciate a long-time player on their team but the ovations and what not can wait until he decides he's retiring, whether that be this week or at the end of this season. I think what strikes me as strange is how blame gravitates towards Cashman. I also think the guy is a tool but it's clear that he knows what he's doing and is trying to make that team better/consistently competitive yet his decisions have been "undercut" lately, whether by management (extra $$ to Jeter; giving up the draft pick to get Soriano) or now the fans' taking of Posada's side.

Frayed Knot May 16 2011 06:36 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

I just think it's natural for fans to back the popular 17-year vet over the suits without really evaluating who might be wrong. What was fun about this whole thing was that the MFY reaction had all their trademark "protect the brand" moves: - by the 2nd inning Cashman had gone to every media outlet short of Oprah to get out the story that an uninjured Posada had backed out and, without saying so, let the retirement option hang out there for all to ponder as well as mentioning that they were "reviewing all their options"; ie, "Get me the legal dept on the phone and tell them to bring a copy of dumbo's contract" - that Posada & Girardi had never been warm and fuzzy with each other even dating back to their mutual playing days was known but suddenly it became OK to talk about it so as to create sides - the Posada apology not only sounded about as sincere as the one delivered by John Cleese's Archie while Wanda's brother was hanging him upside-down and out a window but it dealt almost exclusively with how he hurt the team and the fans. I think they just dusted off the script they made Zimmer read at knifepoint after his charge at Pedro, the one I think was the final straw in his break with pinstriped hell.

Edgy DC May 16 2011 06:51 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

I don't konw if Zimmer was sincere or not, but he cried out loud. Blubbered like a pot of boiling soup. Siupposedly, the final straw for him was them jerking Torre around. But why he should have to break with them on principle but not Torre (until later) was lost on me.

metirish May 16 2011 07:18 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

So many things to like here , Posada is a jerk...FU jerk.......the team as a whole is just plain terrible right now and have been for a while. Great too that the talking heads the last few nights on national games brought up all the other players hitting woes when talking about Posada. Cashman doesn't seem to handle these situations all that well does he?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 16 2011 08:57 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

metirish wrote: Cashman doesn't seem to handle these situations all that well does he? A series of moves going back to the offseason's outset suggest that Cashman seems to have lost patience with the Yankee Way, period. He's been Mr. Go Ahead And Fire Me for months now.

HahnSolo May 16 2011 09:06 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Ding Dong Bondy takes this opportunity to--of course--fellate Jeter: [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/05/16/2011-05-16_jeter_the_right_man_to_lead_team_out_of_this_sorry_state.html

metirish May 16 2011 09:36 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Ding Dong Bondy takes this opportunity to--of course--fellate Jeter: [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/05/16/2011-05-16_jeter_the_right_man_to_lead_team_out_of_this_sorry_state.html OMFG What the Yanks need to do, very clearly, is to shut up and let Derek Jeter handle all public relations and disciplinary matters. Jeter may not be the same hitter - his average has dropped again to .260 - yet he is the same master of deflection. Once more Sunday, Jeter was the voice of reason in a wilderness of sheer stupidity. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... z1MWvco1kN

Ceetar May 16 2011 09:42 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Don't I recall Jeter being pissed earlier in the season about getting a day off and not knowing about it before reading it on the lineup card?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 16 2011 09:54 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Ding Dong Bondy takes this opportunity to--of course--fellate Jeter: [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/05/16/2011-05-16_jeter_the_right_man_to_lead_team_out_of_this_sorry_state.html OMFG What the Yanks need to do, very clearly, is to shut up and let Derek Jeter handle all public relations and disciplinary matters. Jeter may not be the same hitter - his average has dropped again to .260 - yet he is the same master of deflection. Once more Sunday, Jeter was the voice of reason in a wilderness of sheer stupidity. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... z1MWvco1kN Even more interesting is Buster Olney saying today that unnamed MFY Brass is unhappy with Jeter for having taken Posada's side. What this looks like to me is Joe Girardi getting fired. PS, Bondy was doing a slight, tongue-in-cheek exaggeration thruout on his piece, I thought.

HahnSolo May 16 2011 10:12 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

The quote Irish highlighted was probably tongue-in-cheek, but I didn't think the tone or message of the article in full was tongue-in-cheek.

metirish May 16 2011 10:26 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

HahnSolo wrote: The quote Irish highlighted was probably tongue-in-cheek, but I didn't think the tone or message of the article in full was tongue-in-cheek. when it comes to Bondy and Jeter the only tongue in cheek is the one Bondy has planted between The Captain's arse cheeks.

Edgy DC May 16 2011 10:32 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

It was only a matter of time before the conversation so turned.

metirish May 16 2011 10:39 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Edgy DC wrote: It was only a matter of time before the conversation so turned. not happy?

Edgy DC May 16 2011 10:55 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

No. I just saw it hanging out there waiting, waiting.... The anticipation was killing me. My money, however, was on "That's not a tongue in his cheek." So I had to hit the ATM on my way to lunch.

G-Fafif May 16 2011 11:43 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Chin-Lung Hu has refused to hit all year and nobody's made a big deal of it.

soupcan May 16 2011 12:32 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Who?

G-Fafif May 17 2011 12:15 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Deriving joy from another team's misery: Posadenfreude.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 17 2011 12:18 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Deriving joy from another team's misery: Posadenfreude. How was a meatball like that hanging out there over the plate for so long?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 17 2011 12:22 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: That's great. Thank Omar too for jacking up his price last time he was a free agent. Squat on this, Brian. Bill Madden with the "inside scoop" on this scandal today brought up the Minaya angle forcing Cashman via Steinbrenner to give Posada the extra year, and more details about Posada's tirade (profane, threatened to quit, prompted the Cashman response). Madden also sez Posada is off catching permanently because he refused to put on the gear this spring after Martin was brought in.

Ceetar May 17 2011 12:29 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Michael Kay managed to blame both Omar and Joe Torre for the contract the other day.

metirish May 17 2011 12:42 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: That's great. Thank Omar too for jacking up his price last time he was a free agent. Squat on this, Brian. Bill Madden with the "inside scoop" on this scandal today brought up the Minaya angle forcing Cashman via Steinbrenner to give Posada the extra year, and more details about Posada's tirade (profane, threatened to quit, prompted the Cashman response). Madden also sez Posada is off catching permanently because he refused to put on the gear this spring after Martin was brought in. Posada is a first calls prick.....refusing to put the gear on?......fucking kidding me.

Edgy DC May 17 2011 01:06 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

I agree. (What's a first calls prick?)

metirish May 17 2011 01:08 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

LOL.......damn typing fast at work first class prick

Vic Sage May 17 2011 01:09 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

i think "calls" is a dyslexic version of "class"... which Posada has none of.

Benjamin Grimm May 17 2011 01:30 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Edgy DC wrote: I agree. (What's a first calls prick?) You know, it didn't even occur to me that that might be a typo. I thought it was just one of those things that they say in Ireland.

Edgy DC May 17 2011 01:37 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Me too. "What's yer man goin' home fer?" "Barman said they were closin'." "Aye, but it's not like it was last call." "I know. Typical first calls prick." "You want one more?" "Better not. I'm bonkered to the clown."

metsguyinmichigan May 17 2011 01:54 PM Re: Posada pissed ... Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 17 2011 01:58 PM

Jalen Rose on Mike and Mike this morning said the whole Posada thing is none of the fans' business and all should have been handled quietly "in the clubhouse." I was stunned because: A) Mike and Mike (and Jalen) were talking baseball. B) A guy being paid to speak on the radio about professional sports is telling us that something happening in professional sports is none of our business. I suppose I should not have been stunned about Point A since the Yankees were involved. Had this been an aging star on another team, this would have gotten no mention at all. ESPN Radio sports priority list: 1) Football 2) Football 3) College football 4) NFL draft, which practically counts as a separate sport 5) Football 6) College basketball 7) Football 8) NBA Playoffs, unless LeBron is involved, then it moves up to 3A 9) Pre-season football 10) NBA regular season, unless LeBron is involved, then 5A 11) Yankees baseball, moved up to 7A if Derek Jeter is involved 12) Golf 13) Football when Golic played 14) Non-Yankee baseball 15) Hockey, the night before a deciding game of the Stanley Cup 16) Nathan's hot dog-eating contest. 17) Sports played as a publicity stunt by Chad Ochocinco 18) Regular season hockey

metirish May 17 2011 01:58 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

The same Jalen Rose who called Grant Hill an Uncle Tom in a recent documentary? , screw him.

Rockin' Doc May 17 2011 07:48 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

metirish wrote: The same Jalen Rose who called Grant Hill an Uncle Tom in a recent documentary? , screw him. One and the same. He also was arrested for drunk driving after having wrecked his car on March 11th just two days prior to the airing of his ESPN documentary The Fab Five in which he stated his belief that black athletes, specifically basketball players, that attended Duke University were all "uncle Toms". He subsequently was suspended by ESPN on April 1st for "failing to disclose" his DUI arrest. I guess he was too busy bad mouthing Grant Hill and Duke University. ESPN has since reinstated Rose to his on air duties.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 17 2011 08:29 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Rockin' Doc wrote: metirish wrote: The same Jalen Rose who called Grant Hill an Uncle Tom in a recent documentary? , screw him. One and the same. He also was arrested for drunk driving after having wrecked his car on March 11th just two days prior to the airing of his ESPN documentary The Fab Five in which he stated his belief that black athletes, specifically basketball players, that attended Duke University were all "uncle Toms". He subsequently was suspended by ESPN on April 1st for "failing to disclose" his DUI arrest. I guess he was too busy bad mouthing Grant Hill and Duke University. ESPN has since reinstated Rose to his on air duties. I've always thought him an ass. But I will say this much for him-- he was an amazing college player, he's magnetic and charming in The Fab Five, and he's a hell of an interesting analyst when his head's not planted in his colon.

Edgy DC May 17 2011 08:55 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

While his position was unfair bullshit, I have no doubt that that sort of ridiculously over-simplified perspective fueled the Michigan five. And it's good that he aired it. He would have done well to finish it by saying "Of course, we were young and that was really unfair. They were champs and they have reason to be proud of what they've accomplished --- what they're still accomplishing." But the documentary was designed to lionize that team, and I'm sure he fully expected his BS to be eaten up. People --- in sports, on TV, in society --- get so regularly rewarded for acting like perpetual adolescents, they're always suprised to suddenly be criticized for it.

Ceetar May 17 2011 09:11 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

I don't even know who Jalen Rose is, and I'm unsure why ESPN (radio and otherwise) insists on touting it's other hosts/analysts as "HUGE GUESTS" when they do cameos on other shows. Do I really need to hear Steven A Smith on every freaking show all day long? I'm pretty sure they could fire everyone and just play canned intros from one host introducing another host who repeats what he said on his own show days ago. Then they'll have that host go on another show to repeat the opinion from the first host. And we wonder why they can get 6 weeks of 'content' from one sentence from a Tiger Woods or a Bret Favre?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 17 2011 09:18 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

Think about how much stuff you get done-- even just in your free time-- now. Your life will be even fuller, Cee, if you quit sports radio entirely. You will not miss a thing, either, apart from agita... I promise you.

Ceetar May 17 2011 09:28 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Think about how much stuff you get done-- even just in your free time-- now. Your life will be even fuller, Cee, if you quit sports radio entirely. You will not miss a thing, either, apart from agita... I promise you. Oh, i pretty much have. I only listen in the car. it's a 20 minutes commute to and from work, and around lunchtime. The thing is, I feel like I get the gist of it most days, even with that minimal amount of listening time. I can turn on Michael Kay two times a week and somehow hear the same conversations and arguments. Relatedly, Francesa was doing his ticket giveaway thing today where he asks simple questions of callers and the one with the most right gets the tickets. Simple stuff "What number did Edgardo Alfonzo wear?" "How many games did WS 2000 go?" "Who hit the first WS home run in 2000? It took 11 callers before anyone got the minimum three questions right to qualify. (I can forgive them, goofing up what Number Bobby Valentine wore once cost me $130, but goofing multiple simple questions? it was hilarious.)

Benjamin Grimm May 18 2011 04:27 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Your life will be even fuller, Cee, if you quit sports radio entirely. You will not miss a thing, either, apart from agita... I promise you. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr speaks with great wisdom.

Benjamin Grimm May 18 2011 04:28 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Ceetar wrote: "What number did Edgardo Alfonzo wear?" "How many games did WS 2000 go?" "Who hit the first WS home run in 2000?" I have to say, the first two are easy for me, (13 and 5) but I don't have any idea of the answer to the third question.

metsguyinmichigan May 18 2011 04:33 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ceetar wrote: "What number did Edgardo Alfonzo wear?" "How many games did WS 2000 go?" "Who hit the first WS home run in 2000?" I have to say, the first two are easy for me, (13 and 5) but I don't have any idea of the answer to the third question. Timo Perez answered "Todd Zeile."

Ceetar May 18 2011 05:14 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ceetar wrote: "What number did Edgardo Alfonzo wear?" "How many games did WS 2000 go?" "Who hit the first WS home run in 2000?" I have to say, the first two are easy for me, (13 and 5) but I don't have any idea of the answer to the third question. Timo Perez answered "Todd Zeile." so did one of the callers.

Frayed Knot May 18 2011 01:51 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

metsguyinmichigan wrote: ESPN Radio sports priority list: 1) Football 2) Football 3) College football 4) NFL draft, which practically counts as a separate sport 5) Football 6) College basketball 7) Football 8) NBA Playoffs, unless LeBron is involved, then it moves up to 3A 9) Pre-season football 10) NBA regular season, unless LeBron is involved, then 5A 11) Yankees baseball, moved up to 7A if Derek Jeter is involved 12) Golf 13) Football when Golic played 14) Non-Yankee baseball 15) Hockey, the night before a deciding game of the Stanley Cup 16) Nathan's hot dog-eating contest. 17) Sports played as a publicity stunt by Chad Ochocinco 18) Regular season hockey I like to think of it more in terms of monthly priorities. So here's my version of a calendar year as seen by national TV/radio sports geeks: August - NFL Training Camps plus daily updates from Brett Favre's front lawn September - NFL Football and the beginning of NCAA football October - NFL Football, NCAA Football November - NFL Football, NCAA Football December - NFL Football + minor Bowl Games no matter how pathetic (because ESPN televises them all) January - NFL football playoffs + BCS Title Bowl games February - SUPER BOWL WEEK!!!!!! the biggest geekfest of all. Plus the SB itself and the aftermath. Focus then starts to shift to College hoops March - College Hoops, College Hoops, College Hoops April - FINAL FOUR!!! ... NFL DRAFT!!!! May - NBA playoffs plus (normally) reports from NFL mini-camps. "optional" work-outs, and NCAA intra-squad spring football June - NBA playoffs and draft July - VACATION TIME!!!! ... replacement hosts will of course discuss football because camps are almost ready to open and it's never too early to start making predictions

Edgy DC May 18 2011 05:33 PM Re: Posada pissed ...

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ceetar wrote: "What number did Edgardo Alfonzo wear?" "How many games did WS 2000 go?" "Who hit the first WS home run in 2000?" I have to say, the first two are easy for me, (13 and 5) but I don't have any idea of the answer to the third question. Timo Perez answered "Todd Zeile." I'll go with Payton.

HahnSolo May 19 2011 06:20 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

Piazza before Payton, I believe. I can't remember if there was an MFY homer before that though.

Ceetar May 19 2011 06:45 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

HahnSolo wrote: Piazza before Payton, I believe. I can't remember if there was an MFY homer before that though. Brosius hit one earlier in the game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2011 06:57 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

I get mournful and depressed even thinking about that series.

Ceetar May 19 2011 07:11 AM Re: Posada pissed ...

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I get mournful and depressed even thinking about that series. I was in a hotel in Niagara Falls, with a massive migraine. Fell asleep early in the first game and like to pretend it was all a bad dream.