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5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Gwreck May 17 2011 12:42 PM

Our new-look lineup, weather permitting: Reyes SS Thole C Beltran CF Bay LF Murphy 1B Turner 3B Pridie CF Tejada 2B Niese P Chance of rain: 100% Chance of rain-out: 75% or better

Benjamin Grimm May 17 2011 12:55 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

That lineup would look a bit better if Bay didn't suck.

sharpie May 17 2011 01:02 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

I want there to be as many rainouts as possible while we have half of our lineup on the DL.

Gwreck May 17 2011 01:10 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

National Weather Service forecast: Late Afternoon: Periods of rain and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rainfall. High near 60. East wind between 11 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms. Tonight: Periods of rain and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rainfall. Low around 55. East wind around 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between 1 and 2 inches possible.

Vic Sage May 17 2011 01:12 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Benjamin Grimm wrote: That lineup would look a bit better if Bay didn't suck. how is this different from every lineup the Mets have put up since he signed?

Benjamin Grimm May 17 2011 01:29 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Maybe I should have worded it, "This more-pathetic-than-usual lineup would be less pathetic if Bay didn't suck."

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 17 2011 01:40 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal.

Ceetar May 17 2011 01:42 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal. I've given him through the Yankees series. he'll top 100 AB, hit in a crazy easy to hit in park, etc.

metirish May 17 2011 01:46 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Ceetar wrote: I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal. I've given him through the Yankees series. he'll top 100 AB, hit in a crazy easy to hit in park, etc. I was thinking today about this deal and where it ranks , he's just bloody terrible...he's not even hitting hard outs. Saw this today , not sure if it means a whole lot but it's pretty much what I see when he plays. Inside Edge, a private scouting company, keeps a statistic called well-hit average. It measures the percentage of a hitter's at-bats that end with what a scout classifies as a well-hit ball. Through 61 at-bats, Bay has a relatively anemic well-hit average of .098. Among Mets hitters, only weak-hitting utility infielder Chin-lung Hu has a lower mark (.056). http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... lenews_wsj

G-Fafif May 17 2011 01:48 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Laid down a helluva sacrifice bunt last night.

Ceetar May 17 2011 01:48 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

he actually is getting some hard hit outs lately. I've seen two balls hit 380+ feet in the last couple of days. I'm hoping that's a good sign.

metirish May 17 2011 01:50 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Ceetar wrote: he actually is getting some hard hit outs lately. I've seen two balls hit 380+ feet in the last couple of days. I'm hoping that's a good sign. no doubt there have been some and honestly they feel like a tease, I laugh when Keith or Gary will mention how those are good signs , he's coming around yyybbb

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 17 2011 02:01 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Yeah whatever. Put your fucking bat on the ball when Reyes is on 3rd.

metirish May 17 2011 02:03 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah whatever. Put your fucking bat on the ball when Reyes is on 3rd. I'd love it if Keith said that shit right there.

Benjamin Grimm May 17 2011 02:06 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

I'd love it if he said it right HERE! Wouldn't it be a panic to have Keith in the pool?

G-Fafif May 17 2011 02:31 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'd love it if he said it right HERE! Wouldn't it be a panic to have Keith in the pool? If a Met joined CPF and reached his own status, I assume the software would melt down.

Gwreck May 17 2011 02:50 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Opponents: Chris Coghlan CF Hanley Ramirez SS Logan Morrison LF Gaby Sanchez 1B Mike Stanton RF John Buck C Wes Helms 3B Omar Infante 2B Ricky Nolasco P

Edgy DC May 17 2011 02:54 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal. "Hi, I'm Mo." "And I'm Roberto." "Won't you join us and our friend Jeromy starring in the brand new comedy..." (together) "...Off the Hook!"

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 17 2011 03:02 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

All 3 of those guys were acquired bad contracts, which in a way makes them worse but also, they came with some known questions (Burnitz and Mo at least).

Edgy DC May 17 2011 03:03 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

"Hi, I'm Roger Cedeņo. I was in that movie too!"

Chad Ochoseis May 17 2011 03:15 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Edgy DC wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal. "Hi, I'm Mo." "And I'm Roberto." "Won't you join us and our friend Jeromy starring in the brand new comedy..." (together) "...Off the Hook!" Castillo & Perez gave it two thumbs up.

bmfc1 May 17 2011 03:24 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

The weather does not permit. No game today.

Gwreck May 17 2011 03:25 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Game will be made up on Monday, July 18 (a mutual off day).

metirish May 17 2011 03:52 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Collins plan to have the rest of the team pick things up " starting right now" is thwarted by the weather.

Vic Sage May 17 2011 03:57 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal. So far in his Mets career, Bay has accumulated about 1.7 WAR over 491 PAs, at a cost of around $13m to date. Which is about $7.65m (and 289 PAs) per point of WAR. For comparison, Jeromy Burnitz delivered 2.4 WAR over 1283 PAs, for $19.5m. That's about $8.13M (and 535 PAs) per WAR point. So Bay has been better than Burnitz... but not by very much. It would be interesting to see this kind of breakdown on all mets FAs over time, especially broken down by the GMs that made the deals.

Ashie62 May 17 2011 03:59 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Edgy DC wrote: "Hi, I'm Roger Cedeņo. I was in that movie too!" With cameos by Bobby Bonilla & Bret Saberhagen.

smg58 May 17 2011 04:04 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Look at it this way. At least we're not giving Bay the equivalent of a $1M per year lifetime pension.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 17 2011 05:51 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Yeah I'd consider Cedeno about as bad a deal as the Mets ever issued for a position player, just off the top of my head. But Bay could really give that one a run. The good news for Bay is that there's still time to make an improvement but just the fact that it's already on the table for discussion of the worst Met deal ever can't be encouraging. I'm sure he only gets more expensive as time goes on too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 17 2011 05:51 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

PS, not raining here and hasn't for hours.

Frayed Knot May 17 2011 05:55 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm sure he only gets more expensive as time goes on too. 2010 = $14 mil ($8.5 signing bonus + $6.5 salary) 2011 = $16 mil 2012 = $16 mil 2013 = $16 mil 2014 = $17 mil/$3 buyout

batmagadanleadoff May 17 2011 06:02 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

smg58 wrote: Look at it this way. At least we're not giving Bay the equivalent of a $1M per year lifetime pension. I think that Bay's deal is way more lucrative. Bonilla's getting $1M/year but at this rate of inflation, I'd bet that you won't be able to buy a starter house for a million bucks 35 years from now. Not in the five boroughs, anyway. 35 years from now, the major league minimum salary will probably have blown by the million dollar mark. BTW, speaking of bad deals, Ollie Perez was activated today, to the Nats AA squad.

Edgy DC May 17 2011 06:18 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

Ashie62 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: "Hi, I'm Roger Cedeņo. I was in that movie too!" With cameos by Bobby Bonilla & Bret Saberhagen. Different movie. And Bonilla and Saberhagen were good players. Even excellent for a period. Their teams stunk and they became symbols of an out-of-control clubhouse, but they were in no way comparable to what Cedeņo was and what Bay threatens to be. At least Bay has a glove the team doesn't need to hide.

Nymr83 May 17 2011 07:45 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

I think he meant Bonilla's second stint. The one that the Mets deffered and hoped to pay for with Madoff-Money

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 17 2011 08:18 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

So, yeah, they prolly could've played this one, eh?

Gwreck May 17 2011 08:19 PM Re: 5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

No doubt. At the risk of sounding wildly self-centered, I'm glad as I needed the night off from Mets baseball.