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IGT - Mets at Cubs 05/24/11

metirish
May 24 2011 10:49 AM

8:05 kick off


Mets to have a team meeting today , Fred not expected to be there....per Waldstein on twitter

TransMonk
May 24 2011 10:53 AM
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16 game win streak starts NOW!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 24 2011 10:55 AM
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I don't think I know the enemy.

Ceetar
May 24 2011 11:24 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I don't think I know the enemy.


they suck, have sucked for decades.

soupcan
May 24 2011 12:01 PM
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My random Met/Cub knowledge:


They fucked up Tim Leary.

Played their fierst night game at Wrigley against the Mets.

Black cat at Shea against them effectively gave the Mets the pennant in '69.

Mets clinched the division in '86 against them.

Shawon Dunston chosen ahead of Dwight Gooden (1 & 5 if I'm not mistaken)

Randy beget Todd.



What else you got...?

TransMonk
May 24 2011 12:11 PM
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This was the first Mets game I ever saw in person.

Straw hits 3 home runs at Wrigley and got a standing ovation from Cubs fans.

metirish
May 24 2011 12:20 PM
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Guys tweeted this

Mets vs Cubs

- Reyes. Murphy. Beltran. Bay. Turner 3b. Harris cf. Paulino. Tejada. Niese P

Ceetar
May 24 2011 12:29 PM
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metirish wrote:
Guys tweeted this

Mets vs Cubs

- Reyes. Murphy. Beltran. Bay. Turner 3b. Harris cf. Paulino. Tejada. Niese P



Can I whine a little about Harris now? Why can't Fernando stand there? It's not _that_ much different than playing a corner, he's done it before, he's not horrible at it, and I'd rather his bat/prospectness in a lineup.

Unless the worry is the extra running will break him? If that's the case send him out there anyway hope he hits well and trade him to the AL now.

metirish
May 24 2011 12:30 PM
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I'm sure the ole winds blowing out at Wrigley line will get trotted out as to why Harris is out there.

Edgy DC
May 24 2011 01:14 PM
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Fernando can catch the wind also.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2011 01:47 PM
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'Nando just got three games' worth of ABs. I'm thinking it's a playing-time balance thing. (Which is a shame-- I have a feeling he'd punish Dempster right now.)

Vic Sage
May 24 2011 01:55 PM
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even if you don't want to play him in CF for some metaphysical reason, move Bay over and play Fartinez in LF. Bay has played CF before, and he's not that bad at it. I don't get Harris in this lineup, under any circumstances.

Ashie62
May 24 2011 01:57 PM
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Free Fartman!

Ceetar
May 24 2011 02:05 PM
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I don't know if I've been paying that close attention to his gait. A couple of twitter responders inferred that Martinez is basically running like Ramon Castro. true?

Edgy DC
May 24 2011 02:08 PM
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I think folks like to rush to extremes. Ramon Castro indeed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2011 02:13 PM
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Paulino, though, has a most pronounced Castronity to him.

Ceetar
May 24 2011 02:24 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I think folks like to rush to extremes. Ramon Castro indeed.


Actually the comparison was to Kirk Gibson when he hit the home run off Eckersly, but I toned it done.

Frayed Knot
May 24 2011 02:56 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
I don't know if I've been paying that close attention to his gait. A couple of twitter responders inferred that Martinez is basically running like Ramon Castro. true?


Since Martinez sightings have been mostly confined to the realm of prospect-watchers, I suspect many complaints about his running stems from twitterers (mis)repeating info about how age and injuries have slowed him over the years. It's a relative thing though and has mostly to do with a tamping down of projections made while he was 17 y/o and the apple of many scouts' eyes. IOW, he's not slow now although the slowing he's shown from age 17 to 22 indicates there'll be a lot more when he's all growed-up. There were always questions anyway about whether he could cut it as a true CF and the pct who still think so is even smaller now I'm sure - but that's still a ways from saying that his speed makes him almost slow enough to become an honorary Molina brother.

themetfairy
May 24 2011 02:58 PM
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Sorry - wrong thread....

Ashie62
May 24 2011 03:08 PM
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Keith seems to infer every now and then that Fartinez's legs are shot.

metirish
May 24 2011 03:13 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Keith seems to infer every now and then that Fartinez's legs are shot.



He's had everything wrong with him that lad.

batmagadanleadoff
May 24 2011 03:24 PM
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metirish wrote:
He's had everything wrong with him that lad.


He thinks he'll get Carl Crawford money. He won't get it.

holychicken
May 24 2011 03:38 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
even if you don't want to play him in CF for some metaphysical reason, move Bay over and play Fartinez in LF. Bay has played CF before, and he's not that bad at it. I don't get Harris in this lineup, under any circumstances.

This. . .and then drop Bay in the order.

Edgy DC
May 24 2011 05:24 PM
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A vet bench player on a one-year dealio, it would seem, should have to earn every at-bat he gets. If Martinez and Harris were both bonds, there would be more to gain by cashing in Martinez.

That said, he went 3-4 with a walk in his last start, and has shown a nice walk rate in general, so he has done some earning of late. But Fernando would still be my first choice against righties. I mean, Martinez's OPS+ is 139 Harris's is 84. I would be stayinig up late at night searching for chances to get Fernando into the lineup.

Maybe they're thinking of a healing leg, and for now only wanting to put him on defense one game in three, or some'n'.

metirish
May 24 2011 06:38 PM
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I get it Keith , it's cold there, big fucking deal you with your nancy boy coat.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2011 06:39 PM
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2 cracks, 1 time through the lineup against a pitcher who can't locate his fastball with consistency or throw a slider with any feel, and all the Mets have done is give him a semi-hefty pitch count.

metirish
May 24 2011 06:45 PM
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OMFG , Pena tried to bunt with two strikes, he couldn't hold his head lower walking back to the dugout....apparently he has two two strike hits this year, against the shift they say.

themetfairy
May 24 2011 06:46 PM
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Oh holy fuck - catch the ball Paulino!

metirish
May 24 2011 06:47 PM
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OMFG .Mets can't catch the ball tonight...Murphy throws home to get the out at the plate and Paulino couldn't hold the ball.

themetfairy
May 24 2011 06:51 PM
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No beer for Niese this evening....

themetfairy
May 24 2011 06:54 PM
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Fine - I'm watching Glee. That's way less wimpy than this team is tonight.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 24 2011 07:02 PM
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Jason Bay: Still worthless.

Ashie62
May 24 2011 07:10 PM
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If these quotes from Gary about the Sports Illustrated article on Wilpon and the Mets are true just put a tent over this circus for a year or two.

Losing 70 Million this year with 400 Million in debt?? And now 200 million buys 49% of the team. The market cap of the Mets has gone down by HALF just since the season has started.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2011 07:18 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
No beer for Niese this evening....


If he keeps THIS up, Niese deserves some beer-- he coaxed at least five outs that inning.

Edgy DC
May 24 2011 07:22 PM
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The new demoralized Mets.

Edgy DC
May 24 2011 07:24 PM
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Ruben Tejada: not mentioned in article, not demoralized.

Edgy DC
May 24 2011 07:25 PM
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Darwin Barney makes plays the old fashioned way.

Ashie62
May 24 2011 07:41 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Darwin Barney makes plays the old fashioned way.


BOC

Fman99
May 24 2011 07:52 PM
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Fucking hell.

Frayed Knot
May 24 2011 07:57 PM
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Ronnie Paulino owes us Schaefer for tonight's game.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2011 07:58 PM
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I'm not sure the ingenue Thole has opened the door for more runs by an opposing team in a game this season than the veteran has tonight. Holy hell.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2011 08:05 PM
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Honestly, though, I think I'm more disappointed we aren't hammering fastball-slider-minus-slider.

Ashie62
May 24 2011 08:14 PM
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Jason Bay removed with a stiff right calf and replaced by Fernando Martinez who ws possibly born with a stiff right calf.

This has the look of a game that may foreshadow a very long remainder of the year.

Frayed Knot
May 24 2011 08:20 PM
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Now officially the worst game of the year.

Ashie62
May 24 2011 08:23 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Now officially the worst game of the year.


Until the next one.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 24 2011 08:24 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Now officially the worst game of the year.


I stopped watching several innings ago.

Fucking Fred Wilpon.

Ashie62
May 24 2011 08:26 PM
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This team really needs a colonic.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2011 08:27 PM
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I have tickets for this weekend that I'm now considering burning.

We'll see in the morning if the feeling passes.

Edgy DC
May 24 2011 09:01 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Now officially the worst game of the year.


Until the next one.

This is hard to top. Cockpunched by the owner and coming out enfeebled.

batmagadanleadoff
May 24 2011 09:24 PM
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I fear that in the future, we'll be looking at last Friday as the Mets high point of the decade.