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General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

batmagadanleadoff
May 20 2011 11:58 PM

So I'm surfing the Cardboard Gods website and my not so random whims lead me to this piece about the Mets and Jesus Alou. And eventually, I notice that in his 1976 Topps card (pictured alongside Wilker's piece), Jesus is wearing a Mets home jersey without a front uniform number, which might, might be plausible if he were photographed during Spring Training. But he's at Shea. Any explanations?





OE: And his cap looks strange too. Is the interlocking Giant style "NY" embroidered on his cap -- as it should be, or "patched" on, like some of the the kinds of caps made for kids and infants back then? Did Jesus get that get-up from the souvenir shop?

batmagadanleadoff
May 21 2011 12:20 AM
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I think I figured most of it out, but not the patch on cap thing. I'll post my theory tomorrow morning, meanwhile giving any other interested poster a crack at this one.

Benjamin Grimm
May 21 2011 03:02 AM
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It's a mirror image.

batmagadanleadoff
May 21 2011 07:28 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
It's a mirror image.


That's right. The letter "N" on Alou's cap is reversed. The diagonal stroke that connects the two vertical strokes on the "N" runs in the wrong direction. The front uni digit #2 (Alou wore 23) is also, necessarily, reversed. This means that Alou, who appears to be batting right-handed on his Mets card, as he should be, actually posed batting left-handed for the Topps shoot. Alou pranked the photographer.


A Boy Named Seo
Oct 19 2011 04:46 PM
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^ That right there's a trip.

Unrelated to anything, I saw this book used the other day for just $16 and shoulda bought it, but I'm saving all my pennies at the moment. If you happen to see it, there's tons of weird, neat, beautiful images from Japanese baseball cards and related/similar-style memorabilia. Thinking of going back to look for it.





Pitcher & catcher? Ahem.

Edgy MD
Oct 19 2011 05:08 PM
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Winter training in Japan is a brutal intensive gymnastics regimen, and I'm guessing you're looking at an image from there.

seawolf17
Oct 19 2011 05:14 PM
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Thanks for reminding me about that book; I had wanted to check that out. Just submitted a library request.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 05 2012 01:51 PM
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Topps' 2012 set is here:




2012 Topps '87 Mini's:

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 05 2012 01:55 PM
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Edgy MD
Feb 05 2012 02:24 PM
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Why is there a Jason Isringhausen card?

Mets Guy in Michigan
Feb 05 2012 03:02 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Why is there a Jason Isringhausen card?


The set usually reflects the prior year. I like that there's an Izzy card.

I bought some packs today and snagged a Wright and Justin Turner. Will post them later.

Edgy MD
Feb 05 2012 04:04 PM
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Yeah, I guess. I like to think that in my world, there'd be an equal number of cards circulated for all active players showing them on their current team. The minute a guy is added to the roster, his cards get integrated into the distribution network. The minute he's removed from the roster, they stop shipping him.

It's 2012. It's do-able!

Frayed Knot
Feb 05 2012 08:04 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:


And we have the year's first Dickey Face photo !!

Ceetar
Feb 05 2012 09:20 PM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Why is there a Jason Isringhausen card?


The set usually reflects the prior year. I like that there's an Izzy card.

I bought some packs today and snagged a Wright and Justin Turner. Will post them later.


There should be a Castillo and a Perez then too right?

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 06 2012 11:12 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 06 2012 11:16 AM

Why is there a Jason Isringhausen card?


The set usually reflects the prior year. I like that there's an Izzy card.

I bought some packs today and snagged a Wright and Justin Turner. Will post them later.


Current sets reflect prior years only because of production deadlines.




But Reyes signed with Miami one day after Pagan was traded to SF. So you would think that if Topps could produce a current Reyes card, then why not one for Pagan? I don't have an answer, but I know that Reyes's Miami card was not produced in the same quantities as Pagan's Mets card. The Reyes card is an extremely short (limited) print: it's fetching $200+. Topps probably made a special exception for Reyes because he's a superstar still in his prime. Anyways, so long as Pagan plays somewhat regularly this season, Topps will likely produce a Pagan/Giants card for its update set at the end of the season.

Edgy MD
Feb 06 2012 11:15 AM
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And that's all why I'm all like, "Deadlines, shmeadlines. It's 2012. Printing is easy."

That's all cover for laziness and arbitrary distribution manipulations.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 06 2012 11:17 AM
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I hear ya. It ain't 1972 no more.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 06 2012 11:19 AM
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This might sound like a dumb question but where do you buy baseball cards nowadays? I bought most of mine at Al's Luncheonette but that was 37 years ago.

Edgy MD
Feb 06 2012 11:50 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I bought most of mine at Al's Luncheonette but that was 37 years ago.


Is that the same as Al's Diner --- trashed by Al Leiter and after the game six playoff loss?

Mets Guy in Michigan
Feb 07 2012 04:03 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
This might sound like a dumb question but where do you buy baseball cards nowadays? I bought most of mine at Al's Luncheonette but that was 37 years ago.


Target, Walmart and other big box stores usually have them. Not quite the same as riding my bike town to the corner store in Massapequa Park and getting a rack pack for 50 cents and having a pile of cards to show for it!

Rack packs now are $500 with only 36 cards.

I used to build sets by buying packs and trading doubles with friends who collect. Now I buy a couple packs when they first come out because I can't help myself, but buy the factory set when it comes out around the All-Star Game.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 07 2012 06:48 AM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Rack packs now are $500 with only 36 cards.


So each card costs only $13.89? That's a bargain, even though it doesn't come with a stick of gum!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 07 2012 07:26 AM
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Yeah, that's an awful lot.

DocTee
Feb 07 2012 07:37 AM
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I like that the Mets cards reflect the "new" uniform color scheme-- hardly any black visible, save for the Wright "throwback" card.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 07 2012 08:52 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Rack packs now are $500 with only 36 cards.


So each card costs only $13.89? That's a bargain, even though it doesn't come with a stick of gum!


At BJ's and Costco, it's $700. But on the plus side, they're gigantic cards.

Edgy MD
Feb 07 2012 08:54 AM
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This is all jocularity about a misplaced decimal point, right?

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 07 2012 08:58 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
This is all jocularity about a misplaced decimal point, right?


I sure hope so!

SteveJRogers
Feb 07 2012 09:08 AM
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DocTee wrote:
I like that the Mets cards reflect the "new" uniform color scheme-- hardly any black visible, save for the Wright "throwback" card.


Unfortunately,


Edgy MD
Feb 07 2012 09:10 AM
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An athlete, an athlete, and the pudgy goofy kid we kept.

G-Fafif
Feb 07 2012 09:25 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
This is all jocularity about a misplaced decimal point, right?



Jocularity, jocularity, jocularity!

Ceetar
Feb 07 2012 11:14 AM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
This might sound like a dumb question but where do you buy baseball cards nowadays? I bought most of mine at Al's Luncheonette but that was 37 years ago.


Target, Walmart and other big box stores usually have them. Not quite the same as riding my bike town to the corner store in Massapequa Park and getting a rack pack for 50 cents and having a pile of cards to show for it!

Rack packs now are $500 with only 36 cards.

I used to build sets by buying packs and trading doubles with friends who collect. Now I buy a couple packs when they first come out because I can't help myself, but buy the factory set when it comes out around the All-Star Game.


I maxed out my credit card to buy one. I got a Lucas Duda (which I could see through the pack before I opened it) but no other Met, unless you count Nolan Ryan in 1981.

Ceetar
Feb 07 2012 11:57 AM
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Stupidest face in the majors looks shocked he hit it. Is Parmalee bowling?


Isn't it a waste of time to give Willis a card? Why is Latos' so much smaller?


Here's Ryan

Mets Guy in Michigan
Feb 07 2012 01:28 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Rack packs now are $500 with only 36 cards.


So each card costs only $13.89? That's a bargain, even though it doesn't come with a stick of gum!


At BJ's and Costco, it's $700. But on the plus side, they're gigantic cards.



Sorry, guys. Yes, it's $5. But I did hear that Panini is releasing a mega-high-end set this year with a pack price of more than $100. That's just crazy.

SteveJRogers
Feb 17 2012 11:16 AM
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The late Gary Carter's regular Metly Topps cards

SteveJRogers
Feb 17 2012 11:18 AM
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Jason of Faith & Fear said on my posting of that collage on Facebook that it did help tell the arc of Carter's Met career in a way. Specifically his 1990 card.

Edgy MD
Feb 17 2012 11:43 AM
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Jeff Gardner, misrepresented twice on baseball cards.

For a guy with a 186-game career, that's a monumental screwing of his legacy.

SteveJRogers
Feb 24 2012 08:17 PM
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After the doing the Carter collage, I thought it'd be fun to do the same with other members of the Mets Hall of Fame. Using only regular Topps Base Set and Trading cards done during their careers (no Turn Back The Clocks, Record Breakers, All Stars, Highlights, Leaders, etc)
























SteveJRogers
Feb 24 2012 08:25 PM
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1986ers, represent












SteveJRogers
Feb 24 2012 08:27 PM
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Finally, the latest inductee:


SteveJRogers
Feb 24 2012 08:31 PM
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Still waiting for some Hodges and Stengel cards to show up...

BTW, it is interesting that there is a member of the Mets Hall of Fame in every Topps Base Set through 2003. Of course Franco and Kranepool (Has a mixed team rookie card in 1963, which means Met record 18 total regular base set appearances) are mostly the culprits for that factoid. And hopefully there will be a few 1998-2001 Mets, as well as a couple from 2006 in future Met HOF inductions.

Edgy MD
Feb 24 2012 09:44 PM
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The second and third Kranepool cards have to be two shots from the same reel, no?

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 24 2012 10:49 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
The second and third Kranepool cards have to be two shots from the same reel, no?


They look like the same picture cropped differently to me.

Edgy MD
Feb 24 2012 11:02 PM
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I thought maybe, but the angle is a little different. There's an aisle in the stands in one, that is revealed between his hands and body. In the other, the aisle disappears behind his body. The same whiteshirt guy seems to be on the concourse, though.

A lot of them look like they were taken moments apart (Gooden #s 1 and 4, for instance). I half wonder if all the Strawberrys were from the same day, same at-bat, and they just had an artist come in and change the color of his wristbands to suggest they weren't.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Feb 25 2012 08:20 AM
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Cool stuff, Steve. Krane has a rookie card in the 1962 and 1963 sets, I believe.

SteveJRogers
Feb 25 2012 08:40 AM
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Sorry Met Guy, Eddie's cardboard debut was in 1963, as I said in this multi-team rookie card, that also includes Tony Oliva's first card:



Also not represented...yet anyway, is Tug's debut which for some reason was quite high in price for my taste at this time when I went digging for some of the other 1960s cards recently, probably was in one of the high number series of that year:



And of course this white whale of my collecting career, FWIW, this is just an example of card abuse:



SteveJRogers
Feb 25 2012 10:25 AM
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Also stuff like this, which I do own, should not count, even though yes it's part of the base set!

2010 Short Print special. I believe it replaces a checklist card:


Or this, which interestingly enough is listed just under "New York Mets" in Beckett's guide, no mention of Tom Seaver, despite probably picturing him due to the whole "Franchise" bit:

G-Fafif
Feb 25 2012 12:42 PM
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MetFairy and I visited a small, elegant exhibition of baseball cards at the Met (as opposed to the Mets) yesterday. The theme was the players who broke the color barrier. You've seen pictures, probably, of cards from that era (late '40s Bowman, early '50s Topps), but to see them up close, even behind glass, was incredibly moving. I'll let the Fairy post her pics if she's so inclined, but it's worth the trip if you're in the neighborhood. Exhibition runs to mid-June.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 25 2012 06:34 PM
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The pictures used on Kranepool's Topps '64 and '65 cards were shot in 1964, Krane's last season in uniform #21, and Krane's only season at Shea in that uni #. The #1 digit is partially visible in the pics. Topps didn't bother to use a '65 photo of Krane, or perhaps, not even photograph Krane in '65, for his '66 card.

Here's a 2004 Kranepool card (2004 Topps Finest Moments - Autographs), using yet another shot from that same '64 photo session.



Below is a Topps negative, also from Krane's '64 photo shoot. It appears to be the pic used in Krane's 2004 card, just above.

themetfairy
Feb 25 2012 08:03 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
MetFairy and I visited a small, elegant exhibition of baseball cards at the Met (as opposed to the Mets) yesterday. The theme was the players who broke the color barrier. You've seen pictures, probably, of cards from that era (late '40s Bowman, early '50s Topps), but to see them up close, even behind glass, was incredibly moving. I'll let the Fairy post her pics if she's so inclined, but it's worth the trip if you're in the neighborhood. Exhibition runs to mid-June.


My favorite picture, by far, is this one-



It was indeed cool to see these cards up close. Thanks G-Fafif for letting me know about it and bringing me along on the pilgrimage!

SteveJRogers
Mar 01 2012 01:14 PM
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Casey Stengel, now talk about using photos from the same photo reel with the last two!

Edgy MD
Mar 01 2012 02:06 PM
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I totally want to get into the baseball card business.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 01 2012 02:58 PM
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Maybe you can also look into selling beepers. Or buying an ice wagon.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Mar 01 2012 08:53 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I totally want to get into the baseball card business.


I'm hoping you mean the designing end and not the dealing end. Not too many dealers left.

Edgy MD
Mar 01 2012 09:10 PM
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Oh, dear, yes. Dealing would be the seventh level of hell for me. More power to you, Ashie, but it's not for me.

I'd like my company to be about truth in advertising, though. I'd want CPF Cardboard to make sure that there's a photographer to capture a guy the very day he is added to the roster. I'd want to make sure the number of cards run on him is exactly proportional to his days on the roster. So the set would evolve as the season did. Production would start on opening day and presumably hit stores within the week, and close a few weeks after the World Series, with the design and production rolling out even as the action unfolds. Not photoshop jobbies for us.

SteveJRogers
Mar 05 2012 10:13 AM
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And finally, Gil Hodges

Ceetar
Mar 06 2012 07:08 AM
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the cards come with a chance for this Golden Giveaway thing. No purchase necessary, can mail in an index card, normal stuff..but can anyone tell me why Canadians have to answer a math question to enter via this method?

literally: "Potential Canadian winners will be required to first correctly answer the mathematical skill-testing question. Include on a 3x5 card the answer to the following skill-test question: 4X4+4-11 = ?"

G-Fafif
Mar 09 2012 05:30 PM
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Reminder: Great exhibition at the Met runs through June 17.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Mar 09 2012 07:02 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
the cards come with a chance for this Golden Giveaway thing. No purchase necessary, can mail in an index card, normal stuff..but can anyone tell me why Canadians have to answer a math question to enter via this method?

literally: "Potential Canadian winners will be required to first correctly answer the mathematical skill-testing question. Include on a 3x5 card the answer to the following skill-test question: 4X4+4-11 = ?"


If I remember correctly, games of chance are or were prohibited in Canada, so they had to make it a game of knowledge or skill.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 13 2012 10:16 PM
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2012: Meet 1963.



batmagadanleadoff
Mar 13 2012 10:50 PM
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2012: Meet 1963.



And the Mets get screwed again. The leader is supposed to occupy the center diamond. Topps put Reyes in the runner-up slot.

Edgy MD
Mar 14 2012 06:37 AM
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Strange stuff.

And with all that space, they can't print the three-digit batting average?

I realize that's an issue with the original set they aped, and not with this one, but the layout sort of leaves the actual order so unclear that they confused even the layout artist.



Funny to see Musial and White wearing different hats.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 15 2012 09:29 AM
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How bad might the Mets pitching staff be this season? Topps ain't sayin', but Dickey and Johan are the only Mets starters to get their own 2012 Heritage cards.*







*And Schwinden. Rookie card craze and all.

Methead
May 12 2012 09:48 AM
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Apparently Dmitri Young amassed a very valuable collection of baseball cards during his playing days, and now he's selling all of them to start a foundation. Some pretty amazing cards in there, although I'm not sure how a few hundred cards ends up costing you $5 million.

Article - http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/05 ... r-charity/

Catalog - http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/95f ... 95f8b978/1

Ceetar
May 12 2012 09:53 AM
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Keith was talking last night about a baseball card he had of Mickey Mantle that had the the trajectory of his home run that nearly left Yankee Stadium.

batmagadanleadoff
May 12 2012 11:03 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Keith was talking last night about a baseball card he had of Mickey Mantle that had the the trajectory of his home run that nearly left Yankee Stadium.


Frayed Knot
May 13 2012 05:46 AM
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Isn't that the one he hit in Washington? The one which almost certainly did not go 565 feet.

batmagadanleadoff
May 13 2012 09:33 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Isn't that the one he hit in Washington? The one which almost certainly did not go 565 feet.


Yes.

seawolf17
Jun 18 2012 12:26 PM
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Topps sure has some sense of humor with their collation. Grabbed one pack of 2012 Topps Archives at lunch:

http://twitpic.com/9xy7ob



(The other five: Andrew McCutchen, Carl Crawford, Jay Bruce, Ken Singleton, and Jarrod Parker.)

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 03 2012 09:36 AM
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Topps 2013 set unveiled -- (not new news)



http://www.beckett.com/news/2012/08/fir ... all-cards/

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 03 2012 09:43 AM
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Topps 2013 set unveiled -- (not new news)



http://www.beckett.com/news/2012/08/fir ... all-cards/


2013 Topps Heritage ('64 style) preview

seawolf17
Oct 03 2012 12:02 PM
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Bought two Update packs on the way in to the office this morning. Among the cards: Harper, Chipper, Jeter, Stanton... and Manny Acosta.

UP YOURS, TOPPS.

seawolf17
Oct 03 2012 12:03 PM
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Nice of Topps, btw, to include Greenberg in the set for next year.

seawolf17
Jan 17 2013 08:24 AM
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2013 Topps checklist is out (cards should hit in the next week or two), and... dammit, Topps. Jason Bay? Really? Fuckin' hell.

21 Lucas Duda - Mets
43 R.A. Dickey - Mets
60 Jon Rauch - Mets
81 Kershaw - Cueto - R.A. Dickey
89 Johan Santana - Mets
109 Kirk Nieuwenhuis - Mets
129 Ike Davis - Mets
139 Bobby Parnell - Mets
144 Jason Bay - Mets
156 Dillon Gee - Mets
250 Jonathon Niese - Mets
271 Jeurys Familia - Mets
300 Daniel Murphy - Mets
312 Scott Hairston - Mets

1972-style minis among the inserts this year, but Dickey is the only Met listed on the checklist for Series 1.

Ceetar
Jan 17 2013 08:25 AM
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Is the numbers intentional to match the uniform?

seawolf17
Jan 17 2013 08:30 AM
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Topps does a lot of that, yes. Cap'n Intangibles is card 2, Trout is 27, Felix is 34. Full list: http://sportscardradio.com/index.php/pr ... -checklist

Ceetar
Jan 17 2013 08:40 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Topps does a lot of that, yes. Cap'n Intangibles is card 2, Trout is 27, Felix is 34. Full list: http://sportscardradio.com/index.php/pr ... -checklist



ahh. is Topps bullish on Duda or something?

Why is Mickey Mantle special to have his number retired?

seawolf17
Jan 17 2013 08:41 AM
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They did it several years ago (2006ish). He actually still has cards in the set, #7. Don't know why there's no card listed there this year.

Ashie62
Jan 25 2013 10:11 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Topps does a lot of that, yes. Cap'n Intangibles is card 2, Trout is 27, Felix is 34. Full list: http://sportscardradio.com/index.php/pr ... -checklist


If they could there would a Trout base card..A league leaders card, a season highlight card. In the update..an all star card, another base card and an All star relic.

Kill it with quantity....

seawolf17
Jan 26 2013 06:35 AM
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So true. The 2013s should be out this week some time. Target/Walmart early in the week, then at your local hobby shop by Friday.

Ashie62
Jan 26 2013 08:12 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
So true. The 2013s should be out this week some time. Target/Walmart early in the week, then at your local hobby shop by Friday.


Presells are shipping Friday retail...Hobby boxes look like $89.95

The Whale is a Ruth cut signature bat jersey swatch..probably 25 made at most

Ashie62
Jan 26 2013 08:39 AM
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New to Ashie

Travis 'Arnaud 2011 Bowman Platinum Prospects BPP7

Ashie62
Jan 26 2013 08:40 AM
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Somehow he reminds me of Loduca..

seawolf17
Jan 29 2013 12:02 PM
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Swung through Target yesterday to grab a few packs. Metly content: Scott Hairston in the first pack, Jason Bay and Bobby Parnell in the second, along with a Niese insert.

Found this gem on the back of Starlin Castro's mini-1972-style card:



Tsk, tsk, Topps.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 30 2013 07:46 AM
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Some of Dickey's last Met cards

Topps 2013 base


Topps Calling Card


Topps Mini Insert


Topps Chasing History


Wins Leaders


ERA leaders

Ceetar
Jan 30 2013 07:53 AM
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I'll grab a pack at Target today since i'll be in the area.

Ashie62
Jan 30 2013 08:57 PM
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#1 pick Cecchini 2012 Bowman Draft Chrome Refractor Rookie

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jan 30 2013 09:28 PM
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I love the 1972 design -- but I like the Schaefer versions produced by our acclaimed 'Pooler because he knows that action photos in the 1972 set were reserved for "in action" cards!

seawolf17
Jan 31 2013 08:55 AM
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I hate our local hobby shop. I think they're a bunch of d-bags. But they're literally the only game in town, so I don't have much by way of choice.

That said, I have remarkable luck there. I've bought only three packs there in the past year or so, and yet I've pulled three autographed cards: a Madison Bumgarner out of 2012 Topps S2, an Addison Russell (A's draft pick) out of 2012 Bowman Draft, and then yesterday, Dodgers infielder Dee Gordon out of 2013 Topps S1. Go figure.

Ashie62
Jan 31 2013 07:03 PM
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At least your hobby store doesn't "feel up the packs."

MFS62
Feb 14 2013 09:45 AM
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Revisionist history can be a force for good:


http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/02/14/Pete ... 360845473/

Farg you, Pete!

Later

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2013 09:49 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Topps Mini Insert

This isn't one of Ben Grimm's cards?

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 14 2013 09:55 AM
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No. I would know better than to put an action shot on a 1972 card.

This is the 1972 Dickey that I created:

Mets Guy in Michigan
Feb 14 2013 10:02 AM
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No. I would know better than to put an action shot on a 1972 card.

This is the 1972 Dickey that I created:



Cardboard perfection.

d'Kong76
Feb 15 2013 08:41 AM
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Does anyone have any experience getting cards graded by one
of the big companies like PSA, Beckett, or SGCC?

d'Kong76
Feb 19 2013 11:20 AM
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There is a glut of Nolan Ryan rookie cards on ebay. Did he do
something bad like kick his puppy and everyone is liquidating?

SteveJRogers
Feb 19 2013 11:29 AM
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Could be due to Koosman?

d'Kong76
Feb 19 2013 11:44 AM
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What did he do?

Ashie62
Feb 19 2013 11:57 AM
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Kong76 wrote:
There is a glut of Nolan Ryan rookie cards on ebay. Did he do
something bad like kick his puppy and everyone is liquidating?


At the moment there is a glut of everything.

Grading..You are paying for an opinion...Grading is more important for the larger dollar cards and moreso for those that are commonly forged such as the Michael Jordan RC Bench 68 Topps Seaver RC Ryan RC 1952 Mantle etc.

They charge by quantity mailed in for grading and how fast you want it back..Figure $8 or so...SGC Sportscard Guaranty is very good. Beckett offers discount grading through the BCCG brand..

For me SGC and PSA are headquarted in my hometown and have a table at the weekly show...If the card needs the protection from the slabbing and certification I would recommend it. Hope that helps.

d'Kong76
Feb 19 2013 12:22 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Thanks. I guess I meant has anyone sent in like 25 cards instead
of going through someone or to a show. There are occasional shows
near me with reps but if I remember right they don't want to do that
many in one sitting or something.

Ashie62
Feb 19 2013 04:32 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Kong76 wrote:
Thanks. I guess I meant has anyone sent in like 25 cards instead
of going through someone or to a show. There are occasional shows
near me with reps but if I remember right they don't want to do that
many in one sitting or something.


Yes..BCCG 100 cards $500

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 06 2013 05:23 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

2013 Topps Heritages ('64 style)





Frayed Knot
Mar 06 2013 05:27 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Harvey & Tejada look like they could be out of 1964 in those shots.
Kirk's hair is too long and Dickey with his beard don't look as authentic LBJ-era holdovers.

seawolf17
Mar 06 2013 07:02 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Grabbed a pack of this today and pulled the Harvey, actually.

Very cool bonus feature: the backs of the cards have the "rub a nickel and get the trivia answer" spot. Well done, Topps.

Ashie62
Mar 06 2013 11:14 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Topps Heritage will be hitting the sweetspot on the upcoming 1965-1969 gorgeous desiigns. Like Wright and Davis 1967 Mets Maulers.

Ceetar
Mar 07 2013 05:24 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

bought my one pack for the novelty. Bryce Harper's card starts: "Is Bryce going to be a great player? That's a clown question, bro."

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 07 2013 11:56 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

A sampling of 2013 Topps Heritage Flashback cards

Zvon
Mar 07 2013 03:28 PM
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Did they really cut off the front grill of the Mustang on that card? Oy. And Gibson's wearing a circa early 70s Cards uni. Still, that set is phat and I'm gonna check them out.

Just got my first Topps pack of the year. My brother and I each got a 2 section rack pack. Only Met I got was Parnell. The '72 mini was Brice Harper (figures). Did get a few stars like Braun but any Met card is more valuable to me.

My brother got this David Wright card that supposed to be rare. Its the same as his regular card except a different image. Hes catching a foul pop on this one.


Next time I'll have him pick my pack.

Everyone else in this special series are pictured making great catches in foul territory. Except Wright, of course.

[url]http://mybaseballcardblog.com/baseball-card-checklists/2013-topps-out-of-bounds-short-print-checklist/

Edgy MD
Mar 07 2013 03:38 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Wow, the guy from American Movie has really good seats.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 07 2013 08:04 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Two more from the 2013 Topps Heritage set:

Johan Nohan Memorable Moment:


RA Dickey oversized, based on the 1964 Topps Giants subset:



batmagadanleadoff
Mar 08 2013 08:30 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

2013 Topps Heritage David Wright (Short Print)


2013 Topps Heritage David Wright New Age Performer



Some past Topps Heritage Mets New Age Performers:

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 08 2013 08:34 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

When they get into the 70s they'll be infringing on my territory!

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 08 2013 08:36 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
When they get into the 70s they'll be infringing on my territory!


That'll be in 2019. Whaddya think the Mets'll do in 2019?

seawolf17
Mar 08 2013 09:17 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I have mentally marked the 2032 Heritage set in my brain because I love the 1983 design so much.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 08 2013 09:22 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

seawolf17 wrote:
I have mentally marked the 2032 Heritage set in my brain because I love the 1983 design so much.


Bah! Sentimentality. I'm gonna be presumptuous and guess that you probably discovered baseball and baseball cards around 1983. Because so many fans/collectors happen to think that the best baseball card set is the one that they first collected.

seawolf17
Mar 08 2013 09:37 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
I have mentally marked the 2032 Heritage set in my brain because I love the 1983 design so much.


Bah! Sentimentality. I'm gonna be presumptuous and guess that you probably discovered baseball and baseball cards around 1983. Because so many fans/collectors happen to think that the best baseball card set is the one that they first collected.

That would be correct. Baseball in 1982, cards the following spring.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 08 2013 09:49 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Bah! Sentimentality. I'm gonna be presumptuous and guess that you probably discovered baseball and baseball cards around 1983. Because so many fans/collectors happen to think that the best baseball card set is the one that they first collected.


Me too. The only cards that really send me are the ones from 1971, 1972, and 1973.

batmagadanleadoff
May 18 2013 03:57 PM
Baseball Card Thread

I wanted to post these custom made Rusty Staub Mets cards I found on the web, and got tired of looking for the other general all purpose baseball card thread. Searching this forum is a nightmare. Among other things, the search engine returns virtually every word but supercalifragilisticexpialidocious as too common to search for. So fuck you, stupid useless search engine. I"ll just start another thread. I'll start a fucking thread for every single message I post if I want to. Search on that!

d'Kong76
May 18 2013 04:18 PM
Re: Baseball Card Thread

I did a search for 'supercalifragilisticexpialidocious' ... only this
thread was returned in the results. Um diddle diddle diddle um diddle ay!

Edgy MD
May 18 2013 04:53 PM
Re: Baseball Card Thread

Great, now that we've used it twice, that word has now become too common.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 18 2013 04:58 PM
Re: Baseball Card Thread

Search is an ol' pain in da butt. Sometimes I have more success going to google, then entering cranepoolforum.net: "search term"

Rusty.

seawolf17
May 18 2013 05:17 PM
Re: Baseball Card Thread

"Topps" usually finds it for me. But whatevs. You can never have too many baseball card threads, I say.

Benjamin Grimm
May 18 2013 06:33 PM
Re: Baseball Card Thread

Sometimes I have more success going to google, then entering cranepoolforum.net: "search term"

I do that too. This method also allows you to get results from the online archives.



Anyway, here's the 1972 Staub that I reconstructed using the photo that Mets Guy in Michigan uncovered as the one that was intended for the actual card that year:

Mets Guy in Michigan
May 18 2013 07:14 PM
Re: Baseball Card Thread

Sometimes I have more success going to google, then entering cranepoolforum.net: "search term"

I do that too. This method also allows you to get results from the online archives.



Anyway, here's the 1972 Staub that I reconstructed using the photo that Mets Guy in Michigan uncovered as the one that was intended for the actual card that year:



Loved that bit of detective work!

I picked up some of those Panini sticker cards today. Awful.

batmagadanleadoff
May 19 2013 08:53 AM
Re: Baseball Card Thread

Sometimes I have more success going to google, then entering cranepoolforum.net: "search term"

I do that too. This method also allows you to get results from the online archives.



Anyway, here's the 1972 Staub that I reconstructed using the photo that Mets Guy in Michigan uncovered as the one that was intended for the actual card that year:




Grimm's card smacks of realism. I like that. Here's the thread, no thanks to the furshlugginer forum search engine.

Edgy MD
May 19 2013 04:30 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Bumped for merger.

G-Fafif
May 19 2013 04:59 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
so many fans/collectors happen to think that the best baseball card set is the one that they first collected.


Favorite card series:

The first ones I ever handled (1967); the first ones I ever bought (1970); and the first two I ever completed in more or less real time (1974, 1975). And maybe the first one from which a Willie Mays tumbled (1972).

But, I'm sure it's just coincidental.

Ashie62
May 19 2013 07:29 PM
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Benjamin Grimm
May 19 2013 08:05 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
so many fans/collectors happen to think that the best baseball card set is the one that they first collected.


Absolutely. For me it's 1971 and 1972. I remember when the 1970 cards were derisively dismissed as "last year's cards" and, therefore, worthless. The 1973 cards still have some magic for me, but from 1974 on the cards mean a lot less to me. I stuck with collecting through the 1980's, largely out of habit. I think that the last time I bought a baseball card was in 1990 or 1991.

G-Fafif
May 19 2013 09:29 PM
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Every year I track down a few packs of cards for the hell of it. Most years I marvel at the quality and design. Then I forget what they look like, mostly, no offense to those cards. Your prime card years are your prime card years, however.

seawolf17
May 19 2013 09:35 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Every year I track down a few packs of cards for the hell of it. Most years I marvel at the quality and design. Then I forget what they look like, mostly, no offense to those cards. Your prime card years are your prime card years, however.

That was how I started to get back into it about eight or nine years ago, but then once I started going down that rabbit hole...

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 19 2013 09:39 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Just tonight we opened a "double-pack" Lunchpail got for his birthday. Was reminded they now sequence cards by uni number -- just the latest troubling development in the longterm sports trend toward marketing stars above teams -- but shocked that in a pack including both Lucas Duda and Allen Craig, Duda's card is #21 and Craig's is #321.

G-Fafif
May 19 2013 09:40 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

The 0's and 5's don't mean what they used to mean, reports Stuart Miller, writing for ye olde Times.

Card Company Changes Numbering System Collectors Counted On

By STUART MILLER

When Cee Angi was young, a neighborhood bully forced her to trade her 1992 Topps Dave Winfield card for a David Segui. The bully did not know much about baseball, but he knew that the number Topps had assigned to the back of Winfield’s card, 5, made it more valuable than Segui’s, which was 477.

But this season, Topps tossed its idiosyncratic formula for assigning numbers to the players’ baseball cards, and some traditionalists are dismayed.

“It’s unnerving,” said Angi, now an SB Nation columnist. “It’s an unnecessary change.”

“The problem with the lack of consistency isn’t just that it rocks the boat of nostalgia,” she wrote recently, “but it eliminates a common language that existed from year to year.”

Joe Posnanski, a national columnist for NBCSports.com, said, “I don’t like it at all. ” He added, “Baseball exists on a continuum more than other sports, and Topps is part of that.”

As far back as the mid-1950s, a few years after Topps began producing baseball cards, upper-echelon players were distinguished by card numbers ending in two zeros, like 100, 200 or 300. The next best would be identified by numbers ending in a single zero, with 50, 150 or 450 held in more esteem than 160 or 440. The level below them had numbers that ended in 5; multiples of 25 were the best in this bunch. Starting around 1990, the best player would often be No. 1. Everyone else seemed to be assigned a number randomly, at least at first.

For instance, in 1967, before Tom Seaver’s rookie year, he was No. 581. In 1969, after two straight 16-win seasons, Seaver was promoted to 480. That year, “00” honors went to Hank Aaron, Bob Gibson, Felipe Alou, Don Drysdale, Mickey Mantle (probably a farewell gesture because he had just retired) and Tony Oliva. But after winning 25 games, a Cy Young Award and a World Series with the Mets, Seaver was No. 300 in the 1970 set.

Last year’s No. 1 was Ryan Braun, and the “00” cards were Jose Bautista, Miguel Cabrera, Josh Hamilton, Robinson Cano, Alex Rodriguez and Clayton Kershaw. This year, however, Kershaw is No. 22.

That is not intended as an insult but as an honor in Topps’s new system. Kershaw’s uniform is No. 22, and players who wear the same number were bumped elsewhere. Stars of a slightly lower caliber like Andrew McCutchen and Jason Heyward received Nos. 122 and 222. Similarly, Derek Jeter is No. 2, while Denard Span is No. 102 and Zack Cozart is No. 202. Joey Votto’s card bears his jersey number, 19, as does Justin Verlander’s, 35. The new cards have more oddities, like the No. 322 assigned to Alex Gonzalez, who wore No. 11 last year, most of which he spent on the disabled list.

Topps has maintained the tradition of never acknowledging that it uses a formula for assigning card numbers. One marketing executive would not discuss the topic, and another did not return phone calls seeking comment for this article.The Topps numbering system was never exact, especially because the decisions were made not by general managers but by card makers. But the patterns were clear enough that fans could evaluate a player’s worth based on his card number.

Some scholars found evidence of racism in Topps’s early decisions. Robert M. Regoli, Eric Primm and John D. Hewitt published an article in 2007 in The Social Science Journal that revealed that white players had received “preferential placement” until the mid-1960s, the civil rights movement took hold and black players started receiving their due.

Posnanski recently undertook a study on Joe Blogs, his personal Web site, creating a points formula to determine to whom Topps had assigned the best numbers during their careers. His top 10 left no doubt that although this system was imperfect and inconsistent, it was in place for decades. Those 10 players were Reggie Jackson, Alex Rodriguez, Willie Mays, George Brett, Rod Carew, Aaron and Barry Bonds (tie), Mantle, Nolan Ryan and Pete Rose.

Card collectors loved knowing there was order in their world. R. Lincoln Harris, who writes the Blue Batting Helmet blog, said, “The first thing I’d do when I was looking for good players was look for the double zero.”

Angi said her father would separate her “00” cards — the Cal Ripkens and Don Mattinglys — to protect them. But not everyone seems to mind the changes.

“I don’t get the concern,” said Josh Wilker, the author of “Cardboard Gods.” He added that his 18-month-old son dumped most of his cards on the floor and that he usually grabbed a few and read the backs. “I like the new ones. They’re fun.”

Posnanski acknowledged that “the cards are much better than they used to be.” But he dismissed inserts like autographs as gimmicks and said that Topps had underestimated how much fans, as opposed to investment-oriented collectors, cared about tradition.

The Topps strategy seems contradictory, Harris said, because it is tapping into fans’ nostalgia by putting current players on 1972-style cards this year while altering the numbering system.

Topps veered from tradition at various points in the past two decades but then returned . That gives Posnanski hope for the future.

“Maybe next year, they’ll just bring the old way back,” he said.

batmagadanleadoff
May 20 2013 08:12 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread



The value of beat-up baseball cards
By Doug Williams | ESPN.com

As he sits in a noisy coffee shop in San Diego, Anthony Tarantino is shuffling through a stack of baseball cards and selecting a few for show-and-tell.

One is a 1962 Topps of Duke Snider wearing the interlocking “LA” of the Dodgers on his blue cap -- but with a blue-ink speech bubble drawn from his mouth and the words “I am a Met” (which he was in 1963).

On a 1954 Topps, Yankees shortstop Phil Rizzuto has a blue-pen mustache scribbled onto his lip and a scratch that’s eliminated most of the “zzuto” in Rizzuto.

Tarantino also has a 1940 Goose Goslin with half his head missing, a 1952 Eddie Stanky with his eyes and mouth erased (replaced by cartoonish features) and a 1957 card of journeyman outfielder Lou Skizas that’s ripped into three pieces and still has remnants of the tape that held it together.

“And here’s my favorite,” he says, holding out a 1968 Mickey Mantle. The Mick is in his left-handed stance and peering through hand-drawn glasses while sporting a full blue-ink beard and smoking a pipe.

“All he’s missing is a smoking jacket,” says Tarantino, laughing.



Give him your tired, your poor and your huddled masses of torn, folded, defaced, water-damaged, burned and faded baseball cards, because Tarantino -- a lifelong baseball fan and collector -- has found treasure in everyone else’s trash cards. He’s one of a minority in the hobby who is interested in collecting poor-condition cards that have limited or diminished cash value but are rich in character.

Since 2008, he has been posting stories about his finds on his blog, Poor Old Baseball Cards.

“When condition doesn’t matter,” reads the message on the front page of the site. “This blog is dedicated to all those baseball cards that have been put through the wringer. It’s not always about that perfect Gem-Mint 10 … Is it?”

Cards with 'character'

Tarantino isn’t alone in his quest for the worst cards, sometimes called “beaters.” There are other blogs that celebrate the trashed. One, called Things Done to Cards, celebrates “all the different things that can be done to cards, good and bad.”

Lyman Hardeman of Austin, Texas, the editor of Old Cardboard magazine, has a few in his collection but doesn’t specialize in them and has met just a few collectors who do.


“They make interesting cards,” he says. “There’s not a lot of collectors that collect those, but most collectors have a few in their stack somewhere.”

Mark Macrae, a well-known collector and dealer in Castro Valley, Calif., says he’s met many who seek out poor cards, mostly for the nostalgic value.

“They have character,” he says. “It’s not exactly what you’d call investment character, but it’s something you can have fun with.”

Specialty collections like Tarantino’s, he says, are done for passion rather than investment, similar to the barber he knew in Arizona who collected cards of players with facial hair.

Like everyone else, Tarantino, a page designer at the San Diego Union-Tribune, started out collecting new cards and has many thousands. As he got older, he became intrigued by vintage cards because of their history -- but couldn’t afford to spend wads of cash on high-grade items.

Now, among his approximately 1,000 prized poor cards, he has ancient ones of Hall of Famers Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Johnny Evers and Dan Brouthers that not only didn’t cost several paychecks but have quirks -- like the pinhole right above Cobb’s head that shows it was once someone’s prize on a wall. The Evers, once owned by a man in Mississippi, has water damage from Hurricane Katrina.




His 1952 Topps rookie card of Willie Mays has two creases across the face; a 1920 card of Ruth as a Yankees pitcher is missing three corners.

To Tarantino, the cards not only tell stories of the players but also of the owners.

“Why would somebody draw a mustache on Phil Rizzuto?” he asks.

Now every card he seeks must be in poor condition.

“I have this quest in my head to get the worst baseball card in the world,” he says. “I’m just looking for the card I can never find.”

So far, that label goes to his 1909 T206 card of Red Sox infielder Heinie Wagner, acquired on eBay for 1 cent. It’s brittle, torn, faded and creased. He loves it.

“It’s absolutely horrendous,” Tarantino says.


http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fandom ... ball-cards

seawolf17
May 21 2013 08:32 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Topps' 2013 Archives set hits in the next two weeks. Using the 1972, 1982, 1985, and 1990 designs, plus a bunch of old-style inserts. Big news for my collection: Kevin McReynolds is in the set! Thrilled.

Lots of Mets on the autograph list:
FFA-GJ Gregg Jefferies, New York Mets
FFA-HJ Howard Johnson, New York Mets
FFA-JO Jesse Orosco, New York Mets
FFA-KM Kevin McReynolds, New York Mets
FFA-KMI Keith Miller, New York Mets
FFA-MW Mookie Wilson, New York Mets
FFA-RD Ron Darling, New York Mets
FFA-SF Sid Fernandez, New York Mets

Other (likely) Metly content: (looks like there aren't any Mets in the 1985 design)
1972: 2 Gary Carter, 34 Dwight Gooden
1982: 78 Johan Santana, 82 Tom Seaver, 97 David Wright
1990: 174 Ike Davis
All-Time Fan Favorites: 208 Keith Miller, 217 Mookie Wilson, 222 Howard Johnson, 231 Kevin McReynolds, 235 Gregg Jefferies, 236 Jesse Orosco, 237 Sid Fernandez

seawolf17
May 31 2013 12:21 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

No McReynolds in my packs today, but got these.

metsmarathon
May 31 2013 12:31 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

i really like that '82 design.

Benjamin Grimm
May 31 2013 12:38 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

These 1972 cards they're doing are not in the spirit of the original. They should only include posed shots. Anything not posed for a photographer should be on an IN ACTION card.

Edgy MD
May 31 2013 01:42 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Those weak colors in the design on the 82 cards, though. Bleh. Give me the eye-popping colors that look like it come off of an MLB uniform. Not some faded blue and pale pink from an old beer coaster.

Wright deserves better.

Edgy MD
May 31 2013 01:44 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread



Thems are colors that punch me in the nose. No minor league hockey nonsense.

seawolf17
May 31 2013 01:56 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Right, but those were the actual 82 Topps Mets colors.



Just won a box of this on the Beckett Media live YouTube feed, by the way. Box included a Ron Darling autographed card. BAZINGA

Edgy MD
May 31 2013 02:01 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Yeah, but, how bleh. It's a faded PBR coaster. The kind that looks back up at you and tells you, "You've been looking at me too long, and it's time you did something with your life."

seawolf17
May 31 2013 02:05 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

An analysis of Topps' work on the Mets:

http://nightowlcards.blogspot.com/2012/ ... -mets.html

You can add "orange" for 2013, making it a tie with blue.

Benjamin Grimm
May 31 2013 02:11 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

1971: orange and light blue
1972: red, orange and yellow
1974: orange and blue
1976: light blue and gold
1977: light blue and orange
1978: yellow and light blue
1979: brown and yellow


He missed 1973: dark pink and black

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 31 2013 02:16 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

the 73s were the same for all teams though: The color that year was the position background.

Benjamin Grimm
May 31 2013 02:38 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

No, the player name and team name differed by team.

The Mets had the player name in pink and the team name in black. Other teams had different colors.



The Dodgers were pink and blue. The Cubs were red and blue. The Yankees were indigo and black.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 31 2013 02:41 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Whoa, I never knew that. When we flipped cards that year the dominant color was the positional background.

Benjamin Grimm
May 31 2013 02:44 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

We played it the same way in my neighborhood too. The circles around the position were more obvious, but there were specific colors assigned to each team.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 04 2013 08:38 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Who am I?



Ah, spring training, when a young man’s fancy turns to thoughts of a great season to come.

The team has provided you with new dress whites, a fresh stiff-brimmed cap, sharp blue spats– the works.

Maybe you’ll hold on to your grungy nondenominational batting glove, which saw you through the previous season in good stead…

And hey, here comes the Topps photographer. He wants to take your picture for an upcoming set. Suggests a few standard poses, among them this follow-through swing. He doesn’t worry much about shooting too wide– the production department can crop out the milling onlookers/players in the background when the time comes.

But alas, sometimes the promise of spring is nothing more than a promise, and circumstances conspire in such a way that this photo is not used on a Topps card. In fact, as fate will have it, you’ll never appear on a real Topps card in your Mets uniform. And all that remains now are color negatives like this one from that long-ago March afternoon.

Leaving a random blogger years later to pose a contest question: Who are you, long-maned Met from days gone by?

First person to leave the correct answer in the comments section below by Wednesday, March 6 wins a 1972 Topps Ed Kranepool card, graded PSA 7.

Edgy MD
Jun 04 2013 08:46 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

My first guess is my cousin Jeffy from Babylon.

seawolf17
Jun 04 2013 08:47 AM
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batmagadanleadoff
Jun 04 2013 09:01 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Check out the big brain on Brian! It is indeed Jack Heidemann.

Heidemann came to the Mets from the Cardinals in December of 1974 along with the Mike Vail, in exchange for Teddy Martinez. Vail had an outstanding season in ’75, setting what was then an MLB rookie record with a 23-game hitting streak, and finishing with a .302 average. Heidemann served as a utility player on the ’75 team, hitting .214 in limited use.

Heidemann appeared on a 1975 Topps card as a member of the Cardinals, but Topps decided not to include him in the 1976 set. (This picture was taken during spring training of 1976.) He then appeared on his final Topps card in the 1977 set, where he was pictured as a member of the Brewers.

Heidemann appeared on 5 different Topps cards over the course of his career (1971-1973, 1975, and 1977), but was never pictured as a Met…


http://mets360.com/?p=15103

Edgy MD
Jun 04 2013 09:21 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

batmagadanleadoff wrote:


Nice scissor work, fellas!

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 04 2013 12:25 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Edgy MD wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:


Nice scissor work, fellas!


That picture's from a 1976 Dairylea Photo Album Stadium Giveaway.



Edgy MD
Jun 04 2013 12:55 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

1976: When we all looked like sex offenders.

Edgy MD
Jun 11 2013 02:42 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Are you sitting down? Because I hope you're sitting down.

http://paniniamerica.wordpress.com/2013 ... more-51760



At a quick glance, there seem to be two sets --- one with the actors' names only, and one with the actors' names and the characters' names in quotes, with a space for autographs. I'd prefer to have them do it as purely as possible, use only the characters' names and maintain the false reality that these are real players, but gift horse/mouth, you know?

Big kudos on the retro-retro look --- a turn-of-the-century Art Nouveau look filtered through desperate seventies post-Watergate romanticism.

Want to feel your heart beat? Check out this one-shot masterpiece.

seawolf17
Jun 11 2013 02:45 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I'm honestly surprised, with all the celebrity insert type cards, that a BNB insert set hadn't happened yet. (Personally, I'd love a Major League set.)

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 11 2013 03:18 PM
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I wanna see Engleberg's back of the card career stats.

Edgy MD
Jun 11 2013 03:22 PM
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Again, not a little disappointing in that regard.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 11 2013 03:25 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I don't get what Panini is. Isn't it a kind of italian bread?

Are these real cards or just pictures?

Edgy MD
Jun 11 2013 03:35 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Panini is an Italian comic book/collectible card company with an American arm.

These cards may be wanting information-wise, but as you wrote long ago about the Vespa, sometimes the Italians just can't help but design things that look gorgeous.

Ashie62
Jun 11 2013 03:45 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Panini picked up Donruss and Leaf after MLB purged all licenses but Topps brands..Panini cannot used MLB logo and largely relies on retired players and other non union flora.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jun 11 2013 03:58 PM
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Panini has a series of cartoon baseball player stickers that are AWFUL.

Edgy MD
Jun 11 2013 04:19 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Panini are big stateside distributors of the Japanese stuff.

Ceetar
Jun 11 2013 06:09 PM
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seawolf17
Jun 11 2013 07:00 PM
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Yep, Panini used the cartoony Triple Play brand to evade the MLB licensing issue, but the cards are awful. They're the official NBA/NHL card licensees; Topps has MLB and the NFL.

Edgy MD
Jun 21 2013 02:31 PM
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This post is what a good day is made of.

Great to see Kash Beauchamp make an appearance. Kash-Money-with-a-K was a big shot when I was growing up, and a rare number one overall pick (but in the old supplemental January draft, I think) who never drank from the golden cup of a major league water cooler.

Ceetar
Jun 21 2013 02:36 PM
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Zvon
Jun 21 2013 03:30 PM
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These have been touched on here. Got a pack last week. Didn't get any Mets :( I got a Strasburg, gave it to my brother.

For the kid in us older guys this is a great pack to open. There's something about seeing those old card borders that transport you back to a simpler time. And the coolness of seeing todays players within the borders is sweet. I'll be buying more of these.




The Harvey card from that Triple Play set.

seawolf17
Jun 23 2013 06:19 PM
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I'm a huge fan of the Archives set. Won a box on Beckett (including a Ronnie autograph!), and have bought a few packs. Working on finishing off the set and the two "1983" styled insert sets, so if you wind up with any of those that you have no use for, Z, I'm happy to work a trade.

Edgy MD
Jul 01 2013 07:06 AM
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This is my friend Park Slope Dave, apparently still of the stubborn belief that good music needs good cover art.

Identifying Dave's fellow players here, over at 10:00, we have Steve Carlton, the next one clockwise (Tigers #19) is a mystery, Tom Seaver, Hank Aaron, Hank Aaron again, And what I can only guess is Bill Buckner with an N missing from his name. Is that like a famous Topps screwup?

seawolf17
Jul 01 2013 07:48 AM
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That Buckner is odd, because no, that's not an error anywhere that I can find, but he's the only MLBer born 12/14/49. Can't imagine why that'd be Photoshopped, though.

Tiger is Dave Lemanczyk. http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... da01.shtml

Edgy MD
Jul 01 2013 08:07 AM
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Nice job with Lemanczyk, who I managed against in Pee-Wees when I was a teenager.

SteveJRogers
Jul 06 2013 04:44 PM
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Looks like someone is taking Zvon's idea and making some wistful thinking custom cards!

Image is too large, so here is the eBay link...

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Topps-Willie-McCovey-New-York-Mets-/400319223959?hash=item5d34e29897

Zvon
Jul 06 2013 05:04 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:
Looks like someone is taking Zvon's idea and making some wistful thinking custom cards!

Image is too large, so here is the eBay link...

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Topps-Willie-McCovey-New-York-Mets-/400319223959?hash=item5d34e29897

That is very very kool. I don't know that it was my idea. Grimm is the cardman. I don't think anyone here has thought to turn great non-Mets into Mets. I like that. If I made some a those I guess the first one Id pick is Brooks Robinson. Imagine if Brooks was on the Mets in 69-70. *slobberdribblesalavate*

SteveJRogers
Jul 06 2013 06:22 PM
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Zvon wrote:
SteveJRogers wrote:
Looks like someone is taking Zvon's idea and making some wistful thinking custom cards!

Image is too large, so here is the eBay link...

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Topps-Willie-McCovey-New-York-Mets-/400319223959?hash=item5d34e29897

That is very very kool. I don't know that it was my idea. Grimm is the cardman. I don't think anyone here has thought to turn great non-Mets into Mets. I like that. If I made some a those I guess the first one Id pick is Brooks Robinson. Imagine if Brooks was on the Mets in 69-70. *slobberdribblesalavate*


Hmmm...whom am I thinking of then?

A guy here made a custom set of Met history cards based on the 1971 Topps design.

Zvon
Jul 06 2013 06:46 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:
SteveJRogers wrote:
Looks like someone is taking Zvon's idea and making some wistful thinking custom cards!

Image is too large, so here is the eBay link...

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Topps-Willie-McCovey-New-York-Mets-/400319223959?hash=item5d34e29897

That is very very kool. I don't know that it was my idea. Grimm is the cardman. I don't think anyone here has thought to turn great non-Mets into Mets. I like that. If I made some a those I guess the first one Id pick is Brooks Robinson. Imagine if Brooks was on the Mets in 69-70. *slobberdribblesalavate*


Hmmm...whom am I thinking of then?

A guy here made a custom set of Met history cards based on the 1971 Topps design.

Oh, I did that, sorry. Also started a 50th anni set* but never finished it. Those cards were all Mets. That McCovey card is different. He's taking a player who never played for the Mets and making him a Met. I really wish Id a thought of that.
*

dinosaur jesus
Jul 06 2013 07:56 PM
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Maybe you could take some Mets and make them non-Mets. Bonilla's an obvious one.

Zvon
Jul 18 2013 03:27 PM
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^ha, missed that.

My brothers and I had what we call a "pack party" during the ASG. I cleaned up!
:)
My top non Mets:


Metly cards :)


Had two packs of 2012 Topps Update cards. Got the Harvey rook in the second pack.

Zvon
Jul 18 2013 11:30 PM
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I saw this pic of Tejada and first thing I thought was this would have made a great 73 Topps card. It was just many of those cards had odd but awesome pictures used. So I had to see how it looked. Grimm knows what I'm sayin. It looks kool.

d'Kong76
Jul 25 2013 01:31 PM
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Does anyone know why the border/background on the 1968
Topps' cards is sometimes one way and sometimes another?

seawolf17
Jul 25 2013 01:50 PM
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How do you mean?

d'Kong76
Jul 25 2013 02:05 PM
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Zvon
Jul 25 2013 02:13 PM
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Ahh, the different patterns. Interesting question. No idea. The bigger one looks like a blow up of the smaller.

seawolf17
Jul 25 2013 02:15 PM
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Connected with the different series, maybe? Card 92 would be a series 1, so maybe that whole sheet used a wider speckle. I'll have to check all my 68s and see if there's a pattern.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 25 2013 02:25 PM
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The pattern was changed after the 1st series. Beginning with the 2d series, the rest of the '68's had the Bill Short pattern.

Ashie62
Jul 25 2013 02:55 PM
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One of the hotter cards out there.A 2011 Matt Harvey Bowman Platinum Xfractor...

Zvon
Jul 26 2013 12:12 PM
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How much does that list for?

Back in '85 my brothers and I got back into baseball cards cause we all wanted to get Gooden rookies. Since the ASG party and getting the update Topps Mattman rook, I'm trying to talk them into doing a major Matt Harvey get his rookies campaign (thu packs, which is always preferable).
Odds they will get into it are low because in the interim they have grown up.

Zvon
Aug 02 2013 08:29 PM
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I've been dicking around with graphics during the game.

+=


Hows that look?

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2013 08:45 PM
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That's a funny card. They not only had to touch up Agee, but two of his teammates, and make sure that neither was obviously recognizable.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 02 2013 09:14 PM
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Zvon wrote:
I've been dicking around with graphics during the game.

+=


Hows that look?

Nice work. But in correcting one Staub snafu, you created another.

Zvon
Aug 04 2013 04:58 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:

Nice work. But in correcting one Staub snafu, you created another.


Thank you. I'm afraid to ask what I did to Rusty. So far I see no changes in my personal timeline.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 04 2013 05:51 PM
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Nice work. But in correcting one Staub snafu, you created another.


Thank you. I'm afraid to ask what I did to Rusty. So far I see no changes in my personal timeline.


Staub and Agee could not have appeared together on a 1971 card as teammates in any uniform because they were teammates in 1972 only, as Mets. The restored Mets unis wouldn't work on a 1973 card because by then, Agee was an Astro -- thus the reason why Topps went to the trouble to depict Agee and his teammates as Astros in the first place. (Not that Topps wasn't above issuing a stale card of a player on his former team). Your restored image of Staub and Agee (and Harrelson) in their proper Mets uniforms, would logically work only on a 1972 sideways "In Action" card, and even then, we'd have to assume that the mock Agee '72 IA was a high number late series card, to account for the fact that a 1972 photograph was used on a 1972 card.

Sideways 1972 In Action:


Topps 1972 High card #755, Jim Fregosi - from 1972 source photograph


1972 Topps Joe Morgan, traded to Reds after the '71 season.


1972 Topps Jose Cardenal, traded to Cubs after the '71 season.


1972 Topps Andy Kosco, traded to Angels after the '71 season.

Zvon
Aug 04 2013 07:14 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:

Nice work. But in correcting one Staub snafu, you created another.


Thank you. I'm afraid to ask what I did to Rusty. So far I see no changes in my personal timeline.


Staub and Agee could not have appeared together on a 1971 card as teammates in any uniform because they were teammates in 1972 only, as Mets. The restored Mets unis wouldn't work on a 1973 card because by then, Agee was an Astro -- thus the reason why Topps went to the trouble to depict Agee and his teammates as Astros in the first place. (Not that Topps wasn't above issuing a stale card of a player on his former team). Your restored image of Staub and Agee (and Harrelson) in their proper Mets uniforms, would logically work only on a 1972 sideways "In Action" card, and even then, we'd have to assume that the mock Agee '72 IA was a high number late series card, to account for the fact that a 1972 photograph was used on a 1972 card.


Good points. The reason I went with the '71 design was because Tommies 71' card was also a sideways type. I wasn't considering the time factor. Something I was reminded of since my last post was that Rusty himself did not have a Topps regular issue baseball card in 1972 and 73. I think it was touched on here as to the reason why (with the kool mock '72 Staub). I thought maybe you were referring to that.

I'm on a baseball card making kick (mostly influenced by that wicked kool website CARDS THAT NEVER WERE that a recently came across. I've seen some of that guys work here already) and I do want the ones I create to make sense, so to speak. I'll see if I can put that retouched Agee in a sideways 72 action border or maybe just slide it back in his '73 card border. I hear what you're saying about the reason Topps retouched it but many times, before traded sets, they wouldn't get all caught up on the trades and a player was still pictured on his old team. Agee was a Met for all of the '72 season. That could work. '72 action would be way kooler tho.

I just took the 1970 Topps Sporting News World Series cards and redid them with all color photos. I always wished they did those in color. So like the guy from Cards That Never Were I'm going to make my dream cards, but they will be Mets only.

I'm just having some fun with this. Grimm is still the king of Mets dream cards.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 04 2013 10:12 PM
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That photo is a news staple. It's odd, but refreshingly so, to see it in all of it's glorious Shea and Mets colors. I've come across a few excellent DIY baseball card sites in putting together those threads of baseball cards of one-time Mets in the uniform of the Mets' present opponent. Bob Lemke does good work. http://boblemke.blogspot.com/


Here's some of Lemke's work on the Dook.



Bobw (a different Bob - not Bob Lemke) not only makes custom Topps cards, but he also prints them, and sends them out to the players depicted in hopes of getting them returned with an autograph. According to BobW, many players are so impressed with his work that they request additional copies of the cards in question for their personal collections. He even offers his cards for sale to the general public. BobW operates out of Brooklyn and, I believe, is a Mets fan.

Here's his re-creation of many of the 1962 Mets cards:





A Jay Hook set:



Joe Moock:





The dickallenhof blog is a DIY card site devoted to everything Dick Richie Allen. But there's a fair amount of Met content, like the complete set of faux 1974 Topps All-Star Cards, including this one:

Zvon
Aug 05 2013 12:45 PM
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Wow. Excellent work . I see those cards and I get all:


Oh yea, the Agee card. I need to find a sideways '72 in action border.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 05 2013 12:53 PM
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Try Ron Cey.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 05 2013 01:35 PM
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Zvon wrote:


Oh yea, the Agee card. I need to find a sideways '72 in action border.




It's even got the first four letters of Agee's first name.

Zvon
Aug 05 2013 02:03 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Zvon wrote:


Oh yea, the Agee card. I need to find a sideways '72 in action border.




It's even got the first four letters of Agee's first name.


kool, ty.
I found a higher rez Bobby Murcer to work from. I have learned the bigger the better with these things. Almost done the Agee. The proper font is presenting a challenge. Also a discrepancy.
All the letter "M"s I see on the action cards look like the one below. Tommy Davis has different "M"s. Looking at other cards they look like upside down "W"s. I've already started the work based on the Murcer "M", which is like the one below. I'm looking and as far as I can see those "M"s were only used on Tommy Davis's card. I'm like 90% sure that the Davis card is an actual Topps card and not a mock-up. I could be wrong.

Zvon
Aug 05 2013 02:26 PM
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There ya go, with the Murcer M's. I like how this came out. And thnx batmags for the suggestion, because I was always a huge fan of the 72IA cards and was disappointed that Agee didn't get one that year. I have to say I had one of those "oh wow cool!" moments you'd get as a kid when opening a pack and seeing a hot card after I laid this one out. This card was meant to be and thnx to batmags, it now is.

Talk about an "oh wow! cool!" moment- when I saw this card at Cards That Never Were it was the closest I've come to the wow factor I'd get as a kid. Seeing this card is what got me all fired up and into the remaking of the 70 world series cards.

That guy has a lot of amazin cards but this one blew me away.

I've done something like this before, with that Met Set I made in 2002. Actually doing baseball cards is what got me started with adventures in graphics (well, that and a strong desire to see Gillian Anderson naked). Much of the B&W/colorization work was done back then. I made them '71 Topps like because I loved that set. I think remaking them into "updated" 70 WS cards is going to look a lot kooler.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 05 2013 03:22 PM
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Zvon wrote:



That's some card! Amazin'! Agee's last Met card as an active player! I predict that your mock '72 IA will make the cyber rounds, and in time, some blogger will pick it up and then complain that Topps doctored up a Agee's '72 Mets IA card and then recycled it as his '73 Astro card.

seawolf17
Aug 05 2013 03:38 PM
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Custom baseball cards are why I wish I knew how to use Photoshop.

Zvon
Aug 05 2013 06:13 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Zvon wrote:



That's some card! Amazin'! Agee's last Met card as an active player! I predict that your mock '72 IA will make the cyber rounds, and in time, some blogger will pick it up and then complain that Topps doctored up a Agee's '72 Mets IA card and then recycled it as his '73 Astro card.

Thank you and that would be pretty kool although not a goal of mine. Its already pretty confusing at times with all the remade hobby cards out there from fans as well as Topps (actually I'm a bit surprised Topps allows fans to do this). Like I can't say for sure that the Tommy Davis is a real card, all because of those "M"s. The font used there is very similar to the font used for the 1972 Topps Boyhood Pictures Of The Stars which I do believe was different than the In Action cards. Here's a Harvey version of one of those cards. The font his name is in is the closest I could come to that actual font.


I must ask DGW for permission to use his photos in my adventures in fantasy Met baseball cards. One of my fav all times sets is the 85 Fleer and look how super kool his Hernandez photo is in that border.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 05 2013 06:35 PM
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Here's the Tommy Davis "M" on some other '72 Boyhood cards.



I did a quick skim of the '72 set and unless I missed a card, I believe that the Tommy Davis "M" is the only occurrence of that style "M" on '72 IA cards. The Davis card pictured above is an actual Topps card, not a DIY. Other sideways '72 IA cards are of Bobby Murcer, Gene Michael, Luis Aparacio, Ron Bryant, Ken Boswell, Bill Melton, John Ellis and Ken Singleton.






Keith in a Met uniform looks great in any setting. But double-check your space-time continuum on that mock '85 Fleer.

Zvon
Aug 05 2013 06:57 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Keith in a Met uniform looks great in any setting. But double-check your space-time continuum on that mock '85 Fleer.


Cause of the "C"?

I just made a post and hit send and everything looked like it worked right but the post is not here. Hmm.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 05 2013 07:00 PM
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Zvon wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Keith in a Met uniform looks great in any setting. But double-check your space-time continuum on that mock '85 Fleer.


Cause of the "C"?



¡Si!

Zvon
Aug 05 2013 07:04 PM
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DOH! But this is why I run it past you guys. Helps get it right.

I shall recreate my missing post:
Ha! Peter Lorre is kool.

I would think someone noticed the font business on the Davis card before, but who knows. For now I'm gonna say it's our discovery.

Working on a mock Met rookie card and came across this.
Name this Met:

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 05 2013 07:05 PM
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Zvon
Aug 05 2013 08:27 PM
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Correct. I thought this would be a difficult question. :/

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 05 2013 09:21 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Custom baseball cards are why I wish I knew how to use Photoshop.


Me too. I've been wanting to DIY baseball cards for years, but I have no idea how to use Photoshop. I don't even own a version.

Zvon
Aug 05 2013 10:12 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
Custom baseball cards are why I wish I knew how to use Photoshop.


Me too. I've been wanting to DIY baseball cards for years, but I have no idea how to use Photoshop. I don't even own a version.


I've been making "cut outs" of baseball card borders to do this stuff. Basically different year Topps cards without a picture or player name. All are for Mets cards. I'll be glad to make these available if you want to experiment in a photo or art program. IIRC even MS paint can be used for cut and pastes and even applying fonts. The time consuming part is preparing the borders for use. Once I do all that I have what could be called a baseball card kit where you just swap parts in and out. I'll share this base stuff with anyone who wants to have some fun with card making. And it is fun.

dgwphotography
Aug 06 2013 07:06 AM
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Zvon wrote:
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ohhhhhhh nice.... This does look cool with that border...

seawolf17
Aug 06 2013 07:39 AM
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Zvon wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
Custom baseball cards are why I wish I knew how to use Photoshop.


Me too. I've been wanting to DIY baseball cards for years, but I have no idea how to use Photoshop. I don't even own a version.


I've been making "cut outs" of baseball card borders to do this stuff. Basically different year Topps cards without a picture or player name. All are for Mets cards. I'll be glad to make these available if you want to experiment in a photo or art program. IIRC even MS paint can be used for cut and pastes and even applying fonts. The time consuming part is preparing the borders for use. Once I do all that I have what could be called a baseball card kit where you just swap parts in and out. I'll share this base stuff with anyone who wants to have some fun with card making. And it is fun.

Definitely interested.

One of my custom card goals has always been to make custom Kevin McReynolds cards from his Padres years, from a 1983 Traded through 1987 regular issue. He didn't sign his Topps contract until 1987.

G-Fafif
Aug 06 2013 11:34 AM
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Spurred by bml's dutiful posting of Royal Jerry Grote, I sought out the site that created it and encountered an eye-opening exploration of Jerry Grote lurking, or his being the catcher on opponents' cards.

Lurking: Is that an actual baseball card term or is it something Garvey Cey Russell Lopes made up? Either way, it helps explain why my conception of what a catcher is comes mainly from Jerry Grote squatting.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 06 2013 11:50 AM
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That's great. Obviously an easy explanation but still fun to see.

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 12:58 PM
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dgwphotography wrote:
Zvon wrote:
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ohhhhhhh nice.... This does look cool with that border...

It looks freakin excellent! Now I'll need permission to deface your work because the C for Capt will have to go.

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 12:59 PM
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So on this card Grote was on deck and it must have been two outs cause hes half geared up. I've seen this card many times and never noticed that. Amazin'.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 06 2013 01:07 PM
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Zvon wrote:


So on this card Grote was on deck and it must have been two outs cause hes half geared up. I've seen this card many times and never noticed that. Amazin'.


Didier's not wearing the Braves' new 1972 duds.

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 01:10 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:

Definitely interested.

One of my custom card goals has always been to make custom Kevin McReynolds cards from his Padres years, from a 1983 Traded through 1987 regular issue. He didn't sign his Topps contract until 1987.


I have a thing like that for Tommie Agee. As a kid I idolized him and I do get a kick out of making custom cards for him, more so than any other player.

I only have 60's and 1984-85 Topps & Fleer borders prepared now but I will have to do that for other years for certain players and I will post the templates here asap. I'll get the 80s one up tonight during the game.

dgwphotography
Aug 06 2013 01:21 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Zvon wrote:
[


ohhhhhhh nice.... This does look cool with that border...

It looks freakin excellent! Now I'll need permission to deface your work because the C for Capt will have to go.


Are you kidding? That C defaced the uniform.. I'm curious to see the finished result ;-)

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 01:37 PM
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This is a test. I'd like to share these as "cut outs", in this case transparent .png's.
Now to me this border is clear or white in the center area. But when I load it to my pic library the center becomes black. Both white and black center can be used but cut outs are so much faster and easier to work with. I know I can get it transparent going with a .gif file but we'd lose too much quality. I'll eventually figure out the best way to do this.


.png______________________________.gif

Ha. When I post them here they appear to be transparent. Kool beans.

seawolf17
Aug 06 2013 01:59 PM
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Z! That's fantastic! Already playing with the PNG.

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 05:19 PM
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The C was lost in the wash and I have to credit DGW somehow (without detracting from the composition), so his initials can be seen on the side of first base if you look really, really hard.

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 06:08 PM
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1983 Topps (aged), 1983 Topps (new), 1984 Topps.


So wolf, for McReynolds you now need 86 and 87?

OE: also, do you want any to be Padre borders?

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 07:36 PM
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Okay, the Agee 70 WS card. I may as well call this the Tommie Agee project. I like what I've done but I don't think its good enough for Tommie.

This is what the actual 70 Topps card looks like.

This is a detailed copy of the image used by Topps. I could colorize this and use it.



This is the one I posted earlier and as you can see, its very close, but its not the same photo. And the colorized image I used is a close up crop of a bigger image, to make it look more like the actual card. My plan was to use the full image that I colorized back in '02. And it looks good.


But still not good enough. All these photos capture the moment after the catch and really do not show how magnificent a catch it really was.

Now this is a nice photo because it's already in color and it's not as widely circulated as the other ones. And I got to see what color the guys beyond the fence are wearing, which would have been nice for the 2002 colorization. But it's also a photo that depicts Agee a moment after the catch. If you want an image that really shows him about to catch the ball you either have to go to a video still or with this black and white photo, which I only ran into recently. It captures the catch like no other.

So if I'm going to do Agee up right I think I have to colorize this last one and go with it. Still, I am open to suggestion. I know I'm a bit anal with graphics but when it comes to stuff like this I don't fight the perfectionist in me. It makes my stuff as good as it can be.

So which photo do you guys think would best represent Tommie Agees first amazin' catch in game three, and why?

themetfairy
Aug 06 2013 08:02 PM
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I like the top shot against the 396.

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 08:06 PM
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themetfairy wrote:
I like the top shot against the 396.

So did Topps. I should colorize that photo whether I use it or not. You can see in those shots how the ball went almost completely thru Agees webbing in the pocket of his glove. According to Tommie it got stuck there.
So it almost went through his glove.
Amazin'.

d'Kong76
Aug 06 2013 08:08 PM
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Is the 'fake' card something they do all over the internet or
something that just has been here?

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 08:13 PM
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Kong76 wrote:
Is the 'fake' card something they do all over the internet or
something that just has been here?

I'm seeing it all over the net lately. Mostly from individual blogs.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 06 2013 08:14 PM
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If you have the time to dedicate to this project, you should break some new ground. You're now the set designer, so apply your fantasies (or at least mine) in deciding what the set ought to have looked like. I'd use multiple shots and create multiple cards of that catch. Agee caught that ball 20 or 30 feet from the wall and had to run hard to catch it. The multiple cards would properly depict Agee's effort. The snow-cone effect would demonstrate that Agee had to run at full speed and extend his glove arm fully to have any chance of making the play. You could label the cards Part I, Part II etc.

Here's an article I found on Agee and his Topps '73 card. The author mistakenly identifies the infielder in the card, Bud Harrelson as Ken Boswell.

Card Corner: 1973 Topps: Tommie Agee
by Bruce Markusen
April 05, 2013

When Topps airbrushed photos for its cards in the 1970s, the company usually applied the artwork to portraits or posed shots. It’s relatively easy to airbrush the uniform colors and caps of a single player who is featured on a card. But the situation became more complicated when Topps decided to airbrush action shots, particularly those who featured other players within the frame of the picture. There is no better example of that than Tommie Agee’s 1973 Topps card.

When this photo was taken during the 1972 season, Agee was still playing for the New York Mets. He’s the one on the far left. The other players pursuing the pop fly are the right fielder, Rusty Staub, and the retreating second baseman, Ken Boswell. None of these players played with the Astros in 1972, but when the Mets traded Agree after the 1972 season, Topps had to spring into action. With no photos showing Agree wearing the red and white colors of Houston, Topps decided to airbrush this action shot, which meant including the other players in the process.

While Agee is the focus of the card, it’s interesting to note that Staub did not belong to the Astros in 1972 or ‘73, but he did play for the franchise from 1963 to 1968. Similarly, Boswell did not play for Houston in 1972 or ‘73, but he would eventually become a member of the Astros, in 1975. So perhaps we should call this card “The ghosts of Astros past, present and future.”

There is one other oddity about this card. It is the only card in the 1973 set that shows Staub. He did not have a regular issue card with Topps that year, or in 1972 for that matter. The reason? At the time, Topps negotiated contracts individually with each of the players projected to be part of its new set. Staub chose not to sign a contract with the card company for two full years. He would not reappear on a regular issue Topps card until the 1974 season.

Staub and Boswell give us plenty of side material to work with, but Agee is the player I find the most intriguing. We tend to remember Agee for his days with the Mets, but he began his career in the Indians’ organization. Signing with the Tribe as an amateur free agent in 1961 and receiving a tidy bonus of $60,000, he made his major league debut the following season. Called up in September at the age of 20, he accrued 14 at bats, hitting .214.



The late season recall marked the start of four consecutive cups of coffee for Agee. From 1963 to 1965, he made brief appearances, playing in no more than 13 games and hitting no better than .167. That last cup of coffee actually took place with another organization; after the 1964 season, the Indians traded Agee and Tommy John to the White Sox as part of a complicated three-team deal that also involved the Kansas City Athletics and returned Rocky Colavito to Cleveland.

It would not take long for the Indians to regret the trade. After a 1965 campaign that was delayed by a broken hand and then split between Chicago and Triple-A, the White Sox made him one of their starting outfielders in 1966. The Sox thought so much of Agee that they put him in center field, moving the already defensively excellent Ken Berry to left. Though Agee was built like a fireplug at five feet, 11 inches and 195 pounds, he covered the outfield from gap to gap.

Now more mature at 23, Agee took full advantage of his new opportunity. On Opening Day, Agee clubbed a memorable home run against tough right-hander Dean Chance. For the season, he hit 23 home runs and stole 44 bases, thereby becoming the first player in White Sox history to reach 20 homers and 20 steals in the same season. He also played such splendid defense in center field that he took home Gold Glove honors. He also won the Rookie of the Year, beating out a class of first-year players that included Dave Johnson and the “Boomer,” George Scott. The award voting proved to be no contest, as Agee swept all 16 first-place votes. He also received strong support in the American League MVP race, placing eighth in the annual sweepstakes.

If there was a flaw to Agee’s game, it was his ability to make contact. He struck out 127 times, becoming especially vulnerable to right-handed pitchers with good breaking balls.

Pitchers took advantage of the holes in Agee’s swing in his second full season. Despite coming to bat nearly 100 fewer times, he piled up 129 strikeouts in 1966. His batting average fell from his rookie high of .273 to .234. He reached base only 30 per cent of the time while compiling a meager slugging percentage of .371. Even in a pitcher’s era, those marks were clearly unacceptable for a power-hitting outfielder.

Agee’s appearance in the All-Star Game was just about the only bright spot in a season that epitomized the sophomore jinx. He hit very poorly after the All-Star break, with just four home runs after the Midsummer Classic. The White Sox were so disappointed in Agee’s performance that they decided to cut bait with their slick-fielding center fielder; after the 1966 season, the Sox sent Agee and spare infielder Al Weis to the Mets for a four-player package headlined by two-time batting champion Tommy Davis and veteran pitcher Fat Jack Fisher.

Yet, it was a trade that almost didn’t happen. It’s not particularly well known, but the White Sox nearly dealt Agee somewhere else, in a trade that would have pre-empted the Mets’ acquisition of the young, athletic outfielder. At one point, Agee was supposed to have been sent to the Red Sox in a blockbuster deal—a one-for-one swap involving Hall of Fame outfielder Carl Yastrzemski. The White Sox and Red Sox came close to completing the headline-making trade, but Red Sox owner Tom Yawkey balked at the last minute, unwilling to give up Yaz, one of his favorite players. Yawkey’s veto prevented the Red Sox from making what would have been one of the worst trades in their franchise’s history.

The trade to the Mets set up a reunion for Agee, who was now teammates with Cleon Jones. The two had grown up as close friends in Mobile, Alabama; in fact, they were born only five days apart. The reunion with Jones would represent just about the lone positive development of Agee’s first season in New York. In the Mets’ very first spring training game, Agee was hit in the head with an errant Bob Gibson fastball, never a fun proposition. The beanball affected him all summer long.

Though installed as the Mets’ starting center fielder, Agee hit miserably. He endured a 0-for-34 slump in April, matching the 1962 futility record set by Don Zimmer and putting himself in a cavernous early season hole. He would hit only five home runs in nearly 400 plate appearances. He walked only 15 times while striking out 103 times, a ghastly ratio for an everyday outfielder who was expected to help offensively. With an on-base percentage of only .255, Agee put up an OPS of .562. It was the Year of the Pitcher, but clearly not the year of Agee.

To their everlasting credit, the Mets did not give up on Agee. Gil Hodges kept Agee as his starting center fielder and leadoff man. The manager’s confidence paid off. In early April, Agee became the first and only player to hit a home run into Shea Stadium’s upper deck, as he victimized Montreal’s Larry Jaster with a mammoth 480-foot home run. (The Mets later marked the appropriate spot at Shea Stadium by putting Agee’s No. 20 on the railing where the home run landed.) It was one of the 26 home runs he hit that season. He also roamed center field at Shea Stadium with speed and precision, providing the Mets with a lynchpin to both their offense and their defense. Clearly, he was their best all-around position player.

Agee’s performance took a further step up during the World Series. With the Series tied at a game apiece, the Mets and Orioles prepared for a critical Game Three. In the fourth inning, with runners at first and second, Baltimore’s Elrod Hendricks laced a ball deep toward left-center field. Shading Hendricks toward right field, Agee ran an estimated 40 yards, made a backhanded stab of the ball, and snared it in the edge of the webbing of his glove. Catching the ball near the 396-foot sign in left-center field, Agee saved two runs from scoring.

Agee wasn’t done. In the top of the seventh, the Orioles loaded the bases with two outs, bringing Paul Blair to the plate. Blair slashed a line drive toward right-center field, the ball seemingly ticketed for a two-base hit. Agee tracked the ball with a full-out sprint before diving headlong. As he belly flopped onto the edge of the outfield grass, Agee grabbed the ball before it landed on the warning track. This time he saved three runs from being scored, which would have brought the Orioles within a run and put the tying run in scoring position.

After the game, Agee assessed the two miraculous catches. “The first one was harder,” Agee told Lowell Reidenbaugh of The Sporting News. “Because I had to reach across my body and catch it backhanded. I thought I had the second one all the way, but the wind caught it and it dipped suddenly, so I had to dive for it.” For his part, Gil Hodges thought the second catch was the more difficult of the two, going so far as to call it the greatest play he had ever seen in the World Series.

At the plate, Agee did additional damage. Leading off the bottom of the first, he had blasted a bomb of a home run to center field, victimizing one of the game’s toughest right-handers, Jim Palmer. Spearheaded by Agee’s all-around performance, which Sports Illustrated called the greatest single effort by a center fielder in World Series history, the Mets took Game Three on their way to a five-game Series win over the favored O’s.

In 1970, Agee proved that his world championship efforts were no fluke. In fact, he hit even better, compiling a career best .286 average and an OPS of .812. His season included a 26-game hitting streak and a game in which he hit for the cycle. He also stole 31 bases, giving Hodges’ Mets a much needed dose of speed. And he won his second Gold Glove Award.

At 28 years old, Agee appeared to be in his prime. Then came an injury-plagued 1971 season. Limited to 113 games, largely because of an injured knee, he still hit .285 and stole 28 bases, but his power numbers fell off badly. The following summer, Agee’s overall game tailed off badly. Affected by an injured muscle in his rib cage, he hit .227 and saw his slugging percentage fall below .400. Even his defensive play suffered.

Agee’s contributions to the world championship in 1969 and his popularity with New York fans could not make him a Met for life. After that disappointing ‘72 season, the Mets shopped the injury-prone Agee. There were also rumors, unsubstantiated but still existent, that the Mets felt Agee and Cleon Jones spent too much time together, to the point that they had created a clique within the Mets’ clubhouse.

Whatever the exact reason, general manager Bob Scheffing proposed a blockbuster seven-player deal that would have sent Agee, pitchers Gary Gentry and Danny Frisella, and another player to the Cubs for outfielder Rick Monday, veteran right-hander Bill Hands, and a third player. Scheffing was ready to make the trade, but Cubs manager Whitey Lockman reportedly called the deal off at the last minute.

Scheffing instead made a trade with Houston, sending Agee to the Astros for outfielder Rich Chiles and tall pitching prospect Buddy Harris. Although the Mets might have been justified in trading a declining Agee, it remains baffling that they received so little in return for the talented center fielder.

While the Mets claimed that they considered Chiles a legitimate candidate for their vacant center field position, the words of an unnamed Astros official provided less optimism. “He might help as a pinch-hitter,” the Houston official told The Sporting News, “but don’t expect him to play every day.”

Chiles did little for the Mets, but Agee also struggled in Houston, where he found the Astrodome an even more difficult hitting environment than Shea Stadium. He also had to adjust to playing in left field, since the Astros already had the supremely talented Cesar Cedeno in center. Over the first half of the season, Agee showed some power, but all other aspects of his game fell off. On August 18, the Astros gave up on Agee, sending him to the Cardinals for the meager return of utility infielder Dave Campbell.

Agee did little for the Cards over the final six weeks of the season. He hit only three home runs, batted .177, and found himself on the bench. At the winter meetings, the Cardinals dealt him to the Dodgers for veteran reliever Pete Richert.

Although Topps printed a 1974 traded card that showed Agee wearing Dodger Blue, he failed to make his way to Los Angeles for Opening Day. On March 26, in the midst of spring training, the Dodgers released Agee. Even though he was only 31, no one put in a claim. He was forced to retire, at an age when many players still found themselves near their peak.

Agee chose to leave the game completely, but he remained popular with Mets fans who recalled the era of the late 1960s and early 70s. He kept in touch with his fans by making regular charitable appearances and conducting numerous baseball clinics for children. He also made a memorable appearance as himself on an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond.

Yet, there was more than baseball to Agee’s life. A smart businessman, he opened up a bar near Shea Stadium and became a successful insurance executive in his post-playing days. Unfortunately, he also struggled with his weight and developed a heart condition.

On January 22, 2001, Mets fans had to endure one of the saddest days in the history of the Mets. They learned that Agee had suffered a massive heart attack while leaving his New York City office. Shortly thereafter, he died at Bellevue Hospital. It was the same cause of death that had taken his manager, Gil Hodges, who had passed away during the spring of 1972. Agee was only 58, which made the news all the more unbearable to Mets fans.

Although Agee played only a handful of his 12 seasons with the Mets and didn’t start or finish his career with the franchise, he had become a lasting symbol of the team’s unexpected success in 1969. Other quality center fielders have followed him in Mets pinstripes, including Lee Mazzilli, Mookie Wilson, and Lenny Dykstra. All became popular with New York fans, but none more so than their first standout in center, Tommie Agee.

Bruce Markusen is the author of seven books on baseball, including the award-winning A Baseball Dynasty: Charlie Finley’s Swingin’ A’s, the recipient of the Seymour Medal from the Society for American Baseball Research. He has also written The Team That Changed Baseball: Roberto Clemente and the 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates, Tales From The Mets Dugout, and The Orlando Cepeda Story.


http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/artic ... mmie-agee/

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 08:30 PM
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Wow, thank you big time for sharing that article. I'll have to finish reading it after the game.

I don't want to get too crazy with the card additions because I've already decided that there are certain things that should get an additional card, like Agee's second catch, Swoboda's most amazin catch of the series, the shoe polish incedent culminating with Clendenons HR. Weis's homer! Al deserves a shout out! (I did the same thing with the 2002 cards)
That's not to say I won't do it. It's a great idea. I could also possibly pull off one of these type cards for Agee's play:




OOO, Ike ends the game! Great catch. I can read it now :)

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 06 2013 08:45 PM
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I see that you had to lay some new sod and dirt on the portion of the field right before the incoming Staub and to the umpire's right.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 06 2013 09:18 PM
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I just assumed that was Bud Harrelson in the middle and wouldn't have considered Boswell was the guy.

Zvon
Aug 06 2013 09:32 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:


I see that you had to lay some new sod and dirt on the portion of the field right before the incoming Staub and to the umpire's right.

Yes, luckily an easy patch job because I could just copy and paste a small section from the visable part on the other side of the ump.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I just assumed that was Bud Harrelson in the middle and wouldn't have considered Boswell was the guy.

I've always thought that was Boswell. I'm sure I posted here to that effect way back when. I still do. He's moving like Bud would, or did, but his hair (and I think I can see those side burns) says Boswell

That article above about Agee is one of the best Ive ever read. Thanx again batmags. One thing I have noticed about Tommie. In the last years of his life I never saw a picture of him smiling. He seemed so sad.

seawolf17
Aug 07 2013 10:12 AM
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Zvon wrote:
So wolf, for McReynolds you now need 86 and 87?

OE: also, do you want any to be Padre borders?

HOLY MOLEY those are awesome, thanks. Would love the 86 and 87 too. (And if it's easy for you to make the Padres changes for those years, especially the "rookie card" years of 83 and 84, that'd be cool.)

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 07 2013 11:09 AM
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I have a thing like that for Tommie Agee. As a kid I idolized him....


Same here. He was my first favorite Met. After Agee had left the Mets, and in fact professional baseball, me and my friends formed a neighborhood softball team one Summer. We even sprung for uniforms (jerseys). This was around Junior High School. I chose # 20 for my jersey. I was still Jonesing for Agee.


Here's a terrific Sports Illustrated piece on collecting the autographs of every 1969 Met. It's a long read, but worth the time. Agee becomes the focus of the piece.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm

Edgy MD
Aug 07 2013 11:21 AM
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Interesting note that the futility record of 0-34 had previously been the lone property of Don Zimmer, also notable for getting hit in the head.

Zvon
Aug 07 2013 01:08 PM
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I have a thing like that for Tommie Agee. As a kid I idolized him....


Same here. He was my first favorite Met. After Agee had left the Mets, and in fact professional baseball, me and my friends formed a neighborhood softball team one Summer. We even sprung for uniforms (jerseys). This was around Junior High School. I chose # 20 for my jersey. I was still Jonesing for Agee.


Here's a terrific Sports Illustrated piece on collecting the autographs of every 1969 Met. It's a long read, but worth the time. Agee becomes the focus of the piece.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm



That is such a beautiful article. The writer made me feel very "at home". Again, thnx for sharing.
I found these quotes to be most notable:
?June 13 [1969]. Al Jackson, the last original Met, is sold to the Reds. A shame, for he has creditable penmanship.

Exchanging line up cards with Ron Santo before a game in 1969:
"You remind me of Tug McGraw," Hodges tells Santo. "When he was young and immature and nervous, he used to jump up and down. But he doesn't do it anymore."

September 24. The demipennant is clinched 6-0 over the Cards at Shea. Gary Gentry throws the shutout, and the next morning's New York Daily News carries this headline: THE MOON: ASTRONAUTS TOOK 9 YEARS, METS 8.

On the Mets then president forcing Cleon to read a public apology in regards to his recent advantures:
It was so wrong for Cleon Jones, a man who had lived his life behind a scar, to be humiliated by M. Donald Grant, a man who had lived his behind an initial.

Zvon
Aug 07 2013 04:54 PM
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This came out nice. It was a super bitch colorizing the photo, I guess because of all the white in the grain. It looked like shit until I shrunk it down in size. I also had to color over the outfield wall.


Started a three panel version of the catch but I don't have three photos good enough to use to show a progression. I do have two and I'll see how that looks. So far it looks pretty damn kool.

So just in the testing phase I am making a bunch of additional cards. Ha.

themetfairy
Aug 07 2013 05:38 PM
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Superlative job Z!

Zvon
Aug 07 2013 07:11 PM
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Thank you TMF

I have to admit I drooled a little bit when I saw how this came out.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 07 2013 10:54 PM
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Thank you TMF

I have to admit I drooled a little bit when I saw how this came out.


Amazin', Zvon!


________________

Name that game:



... and a card that never was ... the '66 Yogi ... pleasant to see but unrealistic because Yogi announced his retirement early in the '65 campaign

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 08 2013 05:26 AM
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Name that game:



June 25, 1986.

METS 4TH: Hernandez grounded out (first unassisted); Strawberry
doubled to left; Foster grounded out (second to first)
[Strawberry to third]; K. Mitchell doubled to left [Strawberry
scored]; Knight singled to left [K. Mitchell scored, Knight to
second (on throw to home)]; Hearn walked; Fernandez singled to
left [Knight scored, Hearn to third]; SCHATZEDER REPLACED
MCGAFFIGAN (PITCHING); Dykstra doubled to center [Hearn scored,
Fernandez out at third (center to shortstop to catcher to
pitcher to third)]; 4 R, 5 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Expos 2, Mets 4.

Zvon
Aug 08 2013 09:08 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:

... and a card that never was ... the '66 Yogi ... pleasant to see but unrealistic because Yogi announced his retirement early in the '65 campaign


Very kool (drool). I've never seen that picture of Yogi before. Nice wow factor.

Zvon
Aug 08 2013 09:19 AM
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________________

Name that game:

May 30, 1970
Mets 4, Astros 3

OE:same game as the Agee card, it looks like.
OEE: I'll bet thats Jimmy Wynn stealing second.(he and Joe Morgan stole bases that game.)

Zvon
Aug 08 2013 10:04 AM
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The 86 Topps will take a few. Theres a wow factor and a gag factor. I have to overcome the gag factor to make that border ;) 87 Topps will be no problem.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 08 2013 10:28 AM
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________________

Name that game:

May 30, 1970
Mets 4, Astros 3

OE:same game as the Agee card, it looks like.
OEE: I'll bet thats Jimmy Wynn stealing second.(he and Joe Morgan stole bases that game.)



Name that game:



June 25, 1986.

METS 4TH: Hernandez grounded out (first unassisted); Strawberry
doubled to left; Foster grounded out (second to first)
[Strawberry to third]; K. Mitchell doubled to left [Strawberry
scored]; Knight singled to left [K. Mitchell scored, Knight to
second (on throw to home)]; Hearn walked; Fernandez singled to
left [Knight scored, Hearn to third]; SCHATZEDER REPLACED
MCGAFFIGAN (PITCHING); Dykstra doubled to center [Hearn scored,
Fernandez out at third (center to shortstop to catcher to
pitcher to third)]; 4 R, 5 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Expos 2, Mets 4.



Winners, winners, everywhere. Uncle Doc's Card Closet http://www.uncledocscardcloset.com/ is a Baseball Card web site that has it's own Name that Game section. It was Uncle Doc who created that splendid looking '66 Yogi DIY, though I say the image belongs on a '65 template.

from Uncle Doc:



This week’s Cameo Card was almost a Name the Game card, but I couldn’t be 100% certain of the exact play depicted. Hence, that is why this 1971 Topps Bud Harrelson (#355) card has been relegated to the Cameo Card Club. My research on this card showed that it is the May 30, 1970 matchup between the Houston Astros and New York Mets.

I was able to deduce that nugget because of who’s on the mound. #30. The Ryan Express. Nolan Ryan tossed one home game against the Houston Astros and that was the May 30th matchup. Well, given all that information, you’re probably asking why I couldn’t name the exact play shown on the card.

It’s obviously a stolen base attempt, since Ken Boswell is backing up the covering Bud Harrelson, while Nolan Ryan is off on the 1st base side of the mound. Problem is, there were two stolen base attempts in that game. One by Jim Wynn and the other by Joe Morgan (both safe). I’m almost positive that is Jim Wynn sliding into second because of the monster sideburns in the photo. However, the distance is too far and the resolution is too low to correctly Name the Game.

Yet, this card fits nicely into the Cameo Card Club. I love the action in the shot with Nolan Ryan appearing to clench his right fist in a “we got’em out” gesture. But, if you look really closely, second base umpire, Ken Burkhart is beginning his “safe” motion. Man, I would have loved to have seen Ryan’s reaction after the “safe” call was made.

By the way, this 1971 Bud Harrelson card is an inexpensive way to pick up a ‘71 Topps Nolan Ryan (cameo) card!!




Name the Game - 1987 Topps Kevin Mitchell
This is an epic baseball card. It was huge back in 1987, and unlike most of the junk wax era, I dare say this card has aged well. Before we delve into Naming the Game, let’s dissect this card.

It is obviously a play at home given that the Expos catcher Mike Fitzgerald is in the frame. What else do we see?

1. Catcher’s mask in the foreground.
2. Fitzgerald with his head turned looking for a passed ball.
3. Kevin Mitchell rising like a Phoenix out of a swirling, cloud of dust.
4. Mitchell’s blue batting gloves, orange wristbands and orange undershirt.
5. Kevin’s huge pack of chaw and accompanying “woooooo” look.
6. The crowd is on their feet!

I bet 100 cards that PlayatthePlate has this card in his collection! Now own to why we are here…

In 1986, Kevin Mitchell played in six home games against The ‘Spos in 1986. A three game set in late June and a three game set at the beginning of August. Of those games, Fitzgerald appeared in four, the entire June series and the first game of the August series. Three of those four games were at night, so, easily enough, we are left with the June 25, 1986 game as the one shown on the card.

Let’s try and figure out what play this is! In this game, Mitchell was 3 for 4, but only made it to home plate in the Bottom of the 4th. To get on base, Mitchell lined a double to left field off of Andy McGaffigan, scoring Daryl Strawberry. The next batter, Ray Knight, singled to Tim Raines in left, who then tried to nab Mitchell at home. The throw made it passed Fitzgerald, allowing Knight to advance…The Mets went on to beat the Expos 5 to 2.
So, the play depicted on this card was during a June 25th 1986 day game at Shea Stadium between the New York Mets and Montreal Expos. Specifically, the play at the plate was in the bottom of the fourth inning.

Quick Fact – Mike Fitzgerald began his career as a catcher for the New York Mets and was latter part of a trade that brought Gary Carter from the Expos to the Mets in December of 1984.

Zvon
Aug 08 2013 10:43 AM
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See, the sideburns. On these 60s-70s cards the sideburns can always help narrow down the year(s). As a matter of fact those sideburns on Yogi do not say 1966 to me. I'd have to look and compare but I'm thinkin '68.

Zvon
Aug 08 2013 11:19 AM
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batmagadanleadoff
Aug 08 2013 01:19 PM
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Zvon wrote:



So what's gonna be the caption for Agee's 2nd great catch of the day -- his dive on Blair's shot towards the right-center field gap? Because how many days can Agee save in a day? There's only one day in a day, and only one day to save in a day. And if the day was already saved, then what? I just wanted to make up an excuse to post your card one more time.

Edgy MD
Aug 08 2013 01:22 PM
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The day was saved then lost again, thus needing re-saving.

Zvon
Aug 08 2013 01:26 PM
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It would have to be:


Not sure I'm going with that pic. Anyone remember the Brooks Robinson '71 WS card for his catch off Bench (from the '70 series)?

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 08 2013 01:28 PM
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Edgy MD
Aug 08 2013 01:35 PM
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Could change that last word to "buggery" and keep everything else the same.

Zvon
Aug 08 2013 01:46 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Could change that last word to "buggery" and keep everything else the same.

lol. Well. I idolized Agee for what I thought was years, but it really only was one good really solid year because along comes Brooks in the 70 series and does what he does. Agee was nudged over as Brooks became my idol in '71. In the outfield, I was still Agee. I also picked 20 as my uni number one year in CYO in Tommies honor. And five the next season, for Brooks.

K, Im babbling. So, I knew there would be a real kool WS card and I was hoping it would capture one of Brook's catches. When I got it I had a super wow factor because it was the oddest view you could ever imagine. It showed nothing of what a great play it was. Just some guy sticking his ass up in the sand. But I loved it. I had never seen the picture before.

So for catch two I was leaning towards doing a card that was a personal tribute to the Brooks card.
Gimme a min. I'll post it.

Zvon
Aug 08 2013 01:58 PM
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So this is the exact opposite from my goal to use the best pic of the catch, cuz the first one is the best photo, no doubt. Another image that I don't think I saw until the 90's. The one below I first saw in the 2000's. And there are more out there taken a second or two off.
I think batmags is right. I should just use em all. There are no rules.


Zvon
Aug 08 2013 02:08 PM
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You guys can help me pick what Swobodas catch card says. All I got is "SWOBODA'S AMAZIN' CATCH!". I think thats kinda cliche.
They all have "!"s on em. I'll have to look see if the real cards did.

Edgy MD
Aug 08 2013 02:42 PM
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For some reason, Swoboda's catch was long known as "Swoboda's Circus Catch." Other diving catches have gotten that appellation, but it seemed pretty fixed on his.

I call it the Greatest Catch in World Series History.

Cleon made a nifty catch in the Series that would long be remembered if it wasn't the fourth best outfield catch they had.

Zvon
Aug 08 2013 04:38 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
For some reason, Swoboda's catch was long known as "Swoboda's Circus Catch." Other diving catches have gotten that appellation, but it seemed pretty fixed on his.

I call it the Greatest Catch in World Series History.

Cleon made a nifty catch in the Series that would long be remembered if it wasn't the fourth best outfield catch they had.

I think I have a pic of Cleons shoestringer.

Yo, "Swoboda's Circus Catch" is perfect. That probably what Topps would have called it. Thats the thing I'm trying to do here. What would Topps have done then if they did it.

I have never personally seen what I feel would be a circus catch. You'd have to do cartwheels and land spot on with your arms up in victory to get that call from me. And a hoop would be involved.
Ive seen circus misses.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 08 2013 06:58 PM
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"Did you see what I saw? Amazin'. Amazin'. Amazin'".

dinosaur jesus
Aug 08 2013 08:12 PM
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"Ron Swoboda Is Stronger Than Dirt"?

Edgy MD
Aug 08 2013 08:24 PM
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Usually, a diving catch means you extend, catch it, and then hit the ground, hopefully maintaining your grip as you absorb the impact.

But look there. Rocky's knee has already hit the ground, his throwing hand his hit, and the ball isn't even in the frame. I've seen the catch a thousand times, and I can't say if his chest or catching arm lands before his catch, but if I had to bet, I'd say yeah, they did.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 08 2013 08:38 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Usually, a diving catch means you extend, catch it, and then hit the ground, hopefully maintaining your grip as you absorb the impact.

But look there. Rocky's knee has already hit the ground, his throwing hand his hit, and the ball isn't even in the frame. I've seen the catch a thousand times, and I can't say if his chest or catching arm lands before his catch, but if I had to bet, I'd say yeah, they did.


You make the call:

[youtube]l7YRUnhqDeg[/youtube]

I'm not convinced that the top-most Daily News Swoboda still is conclusive. Though it appears that Swoboda's left knee is on the grass before the ball arrives, it's possible that his left knee is as close to the grass as possible without actually touching the field. And the ball, traveling much faster than Swoboda, would arrive and land in Ron's glove in a micro-instant after that still.

Zvon
Aug 08 2013 10:10 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:



Those are great pics.

On Rons catch don't forget he was moving. Fast. Even if that leg skimmed first, he was diving. It can be considered full extension IMO. Picked it off an inch off the grass. Its one of the ultimate diving catches ever. Maybe the best ever in the game up to that point. Gloves in those days were not as good or as large. We see full extension diving catches all the time now. Ironic that a guy who was considered a real shitty fielder made that play.

Now Agee's 2nd catch in right center has been called a diving catch but it really wasn't. Its a lunging grab. The wind or spin was taking it away from him and he had to go down with it and lunge under the ball with a long stride. His momentum took him to the grass and he slid along his chest.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Aug 09 2013 08:00 AM
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That's a great video, with the added bonus of a Nancy Seaver sighting. She should have her own card!

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 09 2013 10:23 AM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
That's a great video, with the added bonus of a Nancy Seaver sighting. She should have her own card!



Mets Guy in Michigan
Aug 09 2013 11:44 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
metsguyinmichigan wrote:
That's a great video, with the added bonus of a Nancy Seaver sighting. She should have her own card!






Brilliant! Back in 1973, I would have used ALL of my allowance to get one of those!

And I love those Agee cards, too. You guys are awesome!

Zvon
Aug 09 2013 01:55 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
metsguyinmichigan wrote:
That's a great video, with the added bonus of a Nancy Seaver sighting. She should have her own card!




Sweet.

Is going full name on Tommie over the top?



Looking for color photos of the Mets "whooping it up". This is almost right out of that vid. There has to be better color pics of the clubhouse celebration. Loads of B&W ones out there.

G-Fafif
Aug 09 2013 02:12 PM
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ROCKY ROBS ROBBY!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Aug 09 2013 02:23 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
metsguyinmichigan wrote:


Looking for color photos of the Mets "whooping it up". This is almost right out of that vid. There has to be better color pics of the clubhouse celebration. Loads of B&W ones out there.


Bowie Kuhn, photobombing the celebration with his usual joy. Did that guy ever smile? Lighten up, Bowie!

Zvon
Aug 09 2013 04:35 PM
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ROCKY ROBS ROBBY!

Nice but don't trump circus catch. TY for playing :)

Consolation prize:

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 09 2013 09:58 PM
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Zvon wrote:


Is going full name on Tommie over the top?




I'd read the Topps Style Manual.

Zvon
Aug 09 2013 10:23 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Zvon wrote:


Is going full name on Tommie over the top?




I'd read the Topps Style Manual.


I am reading it. As I write it. It says that the description box should be longer across. But what would they have filled it with? The manual says always ask yourself what would Topps do. And after that ask everybody else.


Zvon
Aug 12 2013 04:50 PM
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These photos on the cards can't be accurate, right? Games one and two were in Atlanta. These were the first ever playoff games. Could they have done a freaky thing like wearing home unis on the road for that? Topps was usually accurate on these types of cards as far as I know. Photos of the 69 NL playoffs, esp the Atlanta games, seem very rare.

G-Fafif
Aug 12 2013 05:02 PM
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Zvon wrote:


These photos on the cards can't be accurate, right? Games one and two were in Atlanta. These were the first ever playoff games. Could they have done a freaky thing like wearing home unis on the road for that? Topps was usually accurate on these types of cards as far as I know. Photos of the 69 NL playoffs, esp the Atlanta games, seem very rare.


Topps fudged this one. Just looked at PDF of Times coverage and everybody's wearing home and road as you'd expect at Atlanta Stadium, October 1969. (Plus I remember very clearly the Mets in their road uniforms that day, having just made the discovery at six years old that my team wore something different and were greeted not that fondly when they played away from Shea.)

Zvon
Aug 12 2013 05:59 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Topps fudged this one. Just looked at PDF of Times coverage and everybody's wearing home and road as you'd expect at Atlanta Stadium, October 1969. (Plus I remember very clearly the Mets in their road uniforms that day, having just made the discovery at six years old that my team wore something different and were greeted not that fondly when they played away from Shea.)


Thanks G. Are there photos in that article and if I register can I see them?

G-Fafif
Aug 13 2013 12:07 PM
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Zvon wrote:
G-Fafif wrote:
Topps fudged this one. Just looked at PDF of Times coverage and everybody's wearing home and road as you'd expect at Atlanta Stadium, October 1969. (Plus I remember very clearly the Mets in their road uniforms that day, having just made the discovery at six years old that my team wore something different and were greeted not that fondly when they played away from Shea.)


Thanks G. Are there photos in that article and if I register can I see them?


There are photos with the stories, but since the stories are PDFs of the original newspaper accounts, they're more like photocopies of photos. But you can see clearly the Mets are dressed for the road and the Braves are surely at home.

Edgy MD
Aug 13 2013 12:36 PM
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Can we please get a more high-res Nancy card?

Zvon
Aug 13 2013 01:30 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
G-Fafif wrote:
Topps fudged this one. Just looked at PDF of Times coverage and everybody's wearing home and road as you'd expect at Atlanta Stadium, October 1969. (Plus I remember very clearly the Mets in their road uniforms that day, having just made the discovery at six years old that my team wore something different and were greeted not that fondly when they played away from Shea.)


Thanks G. Are there photos in that article and if I register can I see them?


There are photos with the stories, but since the stories are PDFs of the original newspaper accounts, they're more like photocopies of photos. But you can see clearly the Mets are dressed for the road and the Braves are surely at home.

I registered but have yet to buy the story. I think I will though. I would think all the photos are B&W. It would have to be a real good pic if I'm gonna colorize it.

So far I got this for game one of the playoffs. This photo is from a mid season game vs. Pittsburg, IIRC. Life magazine did a pictorical. It could pass although Seaver was not on the mound for the final out.


Ron Taylor capped this game with a 2 inning save (final 1-0). I wish I had a good photo of him in action to use. He pitched some crucial innings in the post.

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
You're now the set designer, so apply your fantasies

So this has evolved into something else. I intended just to update the 70 cards to new color pics. Then thought of adding a few new cards. Now I'm thinking why not just make a whole set of cards that tell the story of the post season. Twenty or more cards. What the hell, why not?

If I do this up right I should include card backs that tell the story the photos depict. Is anybody interested in doing the write-ups for the card backs? Instead of a boxscore and stats on the back (maybe one card should have that for each game) there will be a description/details of the action. The typical baseball card kind of write-up. I'll give credit to anyone who wants to get involved. I figure to make a blog or some kind of set up to display these.

Zvon
Aug 14 2013 08:47 PM
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I knew Aaron had a good playoff series but I forgot how good. Homered in every game.

Zvon
Aug 18 2013 10:46 PM
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Almost done the playoff cards.


The card backs will look something like that.^
Scrapped the first Seaver for an action shot I photoshopped.


I'll display the cards on this blog I whipped up. [url]http://metsfantasycards.blogspot.com/
Grimm or anyone else who makes cards and wants to display them on the Met fantasy card blog thing are welcome to.

And now we return to our regularly scheduled baseball cards.

SteveJRogers
Aug 19 2013 03:08 PM
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We've been playing in the 1969 sand box a bit too much Z, lets see cards that never were for the 1986 postseason!

I'd guess if Topps did a set it would be like the season highlights design in the 1987 base.

Zvon
Aug 19 2013 05:53 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:
We've been playing in the 1969 sand box a bit too much Z, lets see cards that never were for the 1986 postseason!

I'd guess if Topps did a set it would be like the season highlights design in the 1987 base.

I will get to 86, and 73, 1999,2000,2006. The thing that got me started was turning the 70 Topps post season cards from black & white into color. I will complete that eventually and move up the post season history of the Mets through cards as well as other random Met fantasy cards. Colorizing and card backs are slowing me down but I will keep that blog up and try and add a few cards a week. I have not even begun to post the 70 post season fantasy cards there yet.


Right now I'm looking for pictures of Bud Harrelson (gm 1 triple) and Ron Taylor (need both in road uniforms) in hopes of adding two additional cards to the playoff set.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 19 2013 07:12 PM
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Good luck with your blog. Looking forward to more Mets cards.

Zvon
Aug 19 2013 07:30 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Good luck with your blog. Looking forward to more Mets cards.


I'm not much of a blog person. But with the cards I can see adding to it as time goes by so it's a kool way to get em out there. I'd be happy if the people that are interested in this kind of thing run into it. Other than that it's just a fun thing to do.

Zvon
Aug 20 2013 07:40 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:

I'd guess if Topps did a set it would be like the season highlights design in the 1987 base.

Thanks for that input. I appreciate any input, criticism, info, material and involvment.
I agree with what you said above but Im not finding any of that type from the set online. I see these, which can work, maybe very well. Change that slant 86 record breaker to read 86 world series.


I'll still try and preview the cards here if no one minds. So you don't have to go there to see em.
What I'd like to do is start in 62 and work my way up, but I don't know if that's feasible in a blog type format. Cause I do want to get the 69 post season cards up there asap. Can I put posts in the order I desire on a blog, or are they simply listed in the order they are posted?

Two 62 Topps cards for Gil, one to offset the awful picture they used on his regular card (in progress) and this created one, which, come-on, shudda been a 62 card.

Any other suggestions for 60s fantasy Met cards (esp 62 since I'm doin that now)would be appreciated. I have a '64 Topps Met Rookies card that I want to put two Mets on. Not just any Met but two interesting ones that were around a bit and maybe were a part of Met or baseball history.

SteveJRogers
Aug 20 2013 10:34 PM
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Zvon wrote:
SteveJRogers wrote:

I'd guess if Topps did a set it would be like the season highlights design in the 1987 base.

Thanks for that input. I appreciate any input, criticism, info, material and involvment.
I agree with what you said above but Im not finding any of that type from the set online. I see these, which can work, maybe very well. Change that slant 86 record breaker to read 86 world series.




Yeah, I think RB was what I was thinking of.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Aug 21 2013 07:26 AM
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I love these cards. Thank you for making and sharing them!

Zvon
Aug 21 2013 07:48 PM
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Feel free to use em on your blog MGIM. Lets circulate these babies. :)

Gils up:

Topps 1962 Gil: booooo, horrible picture.


My Fantasy Gil *heart

How do you make a heart?

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seawolf17
Aug 22 2013 08:32 AM
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That's excellent! Nicely done.

Zvon
Aug 24 2013 07:30 PM
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If Gil gets one, so does Casey.

Zvon
Aug 27 2013 03:12 PM
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Something just occurred to me. I am not that experienced with Topps card sets that were released in the series format. Did these cards released late in the season reflect mid season changes, or highlights? Because the more I think about it the more I'm thinking cards like the one below would not have appeared until the 1963 set. Same might go for the Gil Comes Home one.

Zvon
Aug 27 2013 06:08 PM
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Well, in any case I got it covered.

Zvon
Aug 28 2013 05:55 PM
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Shaddup! It's my fantasy.

SteveJRogers
Aug 28 2013 06:14 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Shaddup! It's my fantasy.


There's a what if for ya...

Was told to make an article out of that McCovey "card" from a few pages ago...think I may have to do a follow up on this bad boy down the line.

Of course this bloody T.A.R.D.I.S. keeps jamming up on me, I'm more likely to end up in a parallel earth where Tom Seaver was able to sign with the Braves!

Zvon
Aug 28 2013 06:32 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:

There's a what if for ya...

Was told to make an article out of that McCovey "card" from a few pages ago...think I may have to do a follow up on this bad boy down the line.

Of course this bloody T.A.R.D.I.S. keeps jamming up on me, I'm more likely to end up in a parallel earth where Tom Seaver was able to sign with the Braves!


Use as you see fit. I got that card on my last visit to the Fringe alternate universe.

seawolf17
Aug 28 2013 06:33 PM
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Baseball cards make everything better. I love these.

Zvon
Aug 28 2013 06:35 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Baseball cards make everything better.

Never thought about that. They do.

SteveJRogers
Aug 28 2013 06:45 PM
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Zvon wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
Baseball cards make everything better.

Never thought about that. They do.


Not if you suddenly get flashes of Seaver starting Game 1 of the 1969 NLCS in a Braves jersey!

Zvon
Aug 28 2013 06:50 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:
Zvon wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
Baseball cards make everything better.

Never thought about that. They do.


Not if you suddenly get flashes of Seaver starting Game 1 of the 1969 NLCS in a Braves jersey!

Yikes. That's someones fantasy nightmare!


Possibly yours!

Ceetar
Aug 29 2013 09:45 AM
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amusing

The background of this card features a POPSICLE.

G-Fafif
Aug 29 2013 10:05 AM
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Zvon, these are fantastic. Love that you're doing this and blogging it. Looking forward to sharing on FAFIF and everywhere.

d'Kong76
Aug 29 2013 10:33 AM
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Going through a box of stuff and I found these postcards.
Particularly like this one so sharing ...
(the orange is my scanner backround and not on card)

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 29 2013 12:33 PM
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Here's an unused Topps photo of Gil Hodges (c. 1962), that you might be interested in using for a card. The photo is faded and needs some color correction, (check out the dull purples that used to be Met blue and the brownish rather than greenish grass). You'll also need to remove the Topps watermark, but you have the skill sets to do that. Topps has been selling their archive of hard photos to the public, presumably because they've digitized their image collection.

Zvon
Aug 29 2013 12:54 PM
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Wow! Thank you! Watermarks schmortermarks!

Zvon
Aug 29 2013 02:44 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Zvon, these are fantastic. Love that you're doing this and blogging it. Looking forward to sharing on FAFIF and everywhere.


Thanx G. Looks like it's shaping up to be different slices of Met history told thru baseball cards. Besides the graphic stuff I want it to be informative so old fans can recollect and new fans can learn about the Mets. The player cards are fun and all but it's events and game/season/career Met stuff that I want to capsulize the most. I've only touched on it with highlight cards. It's the post season cards I'm looking forward to the most and I'm glad I didn't rush that. I'm still finding new pictures and info for them. They are coming together nicely.

I have to do something for 1964 and then I'm planning a series of cards (4 to 6 cards, I figure) to capture the '64 A.S.G. on '65 Topps world series type cards (blue instead of red). Most don't know the details of that ASG and thats a sin.
I could only find one color photo from the 64 ASG (Shea below does not count). I will colorize if I have to but that's a lot of work. I'm scouring the interwebs for more color images. I'd like this lil sub-set to culminate with Callison crossing home plate in a blue Met helmet. Getting detailed descriptions of the game is a must for the card backs. I'm finding good sources.



I also have to learn the details around the blog deal. I like how you guys have links to other Metsites and I'll have to figure out how to do that stuff. I can't even figure out how to follow other blogs these days. There used to be a follow button but I don't see it anymore (I did start following a few back when). With all the new social media icons now I'm afraid to click stuff for fear of doing something stupid like broadcasting to facebook or something. I'll figure it out. All it'll take is time.

Edgy MD
Aug 29 2013 04:23 PM
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Sorry to interrupt these beauties with this misbegotten card of yore.

Zvon
Sep 04 2013 08:20 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Sorry to interrupt these beauties with this misbegotten card of yore.


That really did stop this thread cold. Thats kinda creepy. In a Futurama head in a jar kinda way.



The 64 ASG tribute thing with the cards is up.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 04 2013 08:55 PM
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Those cards are beautiful. Can't wait for the next batch.

Zvon
Sep 09 2013 08:29 PM
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Looking for a lil help please.

I'm looking for a photograph. I've searched for days. In Bunnings '64 perfecto @ Shea, Tony Taylor made a great play to rob a hit. Does anyone have this photo or know where I can find it? I saw the photo in a book about the Mets I had as a kid, so I know it exists.

Also some information. That weekend the Mets played the Phils 5 times in three days. Does anyone know if these were scheduled or was one of the double header games a make up? They played a double header on Friday and then again on Sunday. All I can find at UMD indicates these were scheduled games.

dinosaur jesus
Sep 09 2013 09:25 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Looking for a lil help please.

Also some information. That weekend the Mets played the Phils 5 times in three days. Does anyone know if these were scheduled or was one of the double header games a make up? They played a double header on Friday and then again on Sunday. All I can find at UMD indicates these were scheduled games.


At least one of those games was probably a makeup game. That weekend was the first time the Mets and Phillies played in New York that year, but they were both off from Monday, April 20, through Wednesday, April 22. The obvious conclusion is that they were rained out on those days--either two games or three, depending on whether Monday was a travel day (the Phillies were coming from Chicago). If it was two games, then I'd guess that both of them were made up in those June doubleheaders; or, if one of the doubleheaders was already scheduled, the other game was made up in the doubleheader on Friday, August 14. If it was three games, then presumably two of them were made up in June and the third in August. The two teams ended up playing the full 18 games against each other that year.

This is like one of those logic puzzles you see people doing on the train: Jane said she'd wear her red dress to the party, but only if Debra wore her blue dress, while Agnes said she'd dance with either Dave or Martin unless they both brought Zinfandel, in which case she'd dance with Olof, but only if he wore his bolo tie. Which couple accidentally punctured the host's daughter's inflatable giraffe?

Zvon
Sep 09 2013 10:21 PM
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Thnx DJ. Back in those days I was used to double headers but not two in two days. I thought that odd.

Baseball does not realize what a great thing a double header was. How much positive fan support they received back from once in a while throwing us a free game. Idiots.

Edgy MD
Sep 10 2013 05:09 AM
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I don't even need the extra game to be free. Single admission, with a premium tacked on for the second game, would be fine.

But I imagine they lose plenty o' revenues.

[list:93vti1aw][*:93vti1aw]There's only so much premium tack on someone will pay. Would you go double for parking?[/*:m:93vti1aw]
[*:93vti1aw]Would you eat twice as much food?[/*:m:93vti1aw]
[*:93vti1aw]Would you drink twice as much beer?[/*:m:93vti1aw]
[*:93vti1aw]If you did, would you drink a whole lot of it in game one and become a nuisance?[/*:m:93vti1aw]
[*:93vti1aw]Would you buy twice as many hats and thundersticks for your kids?[/*:m:93vti1aw][/list:u:93vti1aw]

I loved scheduled doubleheaders. I loved planning a whole damn day around sitting in one place. I loved publicly (and, I imagine, disgustingly for everybody else) making out for six hours at one during a Sunday in 1985. I loved the events in between them. I hate that so many events never seem to work out without them, like Sebastian Bach singing "ts in between them. I hate that so many events never seem to work out without them, like Sebastian Bach singing "We Are the Chapions" to 15% capacity on Autism Awareness Day, or 6,300 people in their seats during the pre-game ceremony inducting Jerry Koosman into the Mets Hall of Fame --- and often the broadcasts don't even include these things, and we only get a blip during the seventh inning stretch.

But as attendance leaguewide boomed during the last thirty years, I'm sure plenty of research was done, and they saw just how much money their largesse was costing them.

Zvon
Sep 10 2013 01:26 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I don't even need the extra game to be free. Single admission, with a premium tacked on for the second game, would be fine.

But I imagine they lose plenty o' revenues.

[list][*]There's only so much premium tack on someone will pay. Would you go double for parking?[/*:m]
[*]Would you eat twice as much food?[/*:m]
[*]Would you drink twice as much beer?[/*:m]
[*]If you did, would you drink a whole lot of it in game one and become a nuisance?[/*:m]
[*]Would you buy twice as many hats and thundersticks for your kids?[/*:m][/list:u]

I loved scheduled doubleheaders. I loved planning a whole damn day around sitting in one place. I loved publicly (and, I imagine, disgustingly for everybody else) making out for six hours at one during a Sunday in 1985. I loved the events in between them. I hate that so many events never seem to work out without them, like Sebastian Bach singing "We Are the Champions" to 15% capacity on Autism Awareness Day, or 6,300 people in their seats during the pre-game ceremony inducting Jerry Koosman into the Mets Hall of Fame --- and often the broadcasts don't even include these things, and we only get a blip during the seventh inning stretch.

But as attendance leaguewide boomed during the last thirty years, I'm sure plenty of research was done, and they saw just how much money their largesse was costing them.

I have great memories of going to Met ballgames, but double header memories? FORGETTABOUTIT!
I'd end up having more fun than a barrel of monkeys. Hey, that's okay baseball, you do what you do as the kids of today grow up and become soccer fans. The game is so great it will always have fans. Right? Hope so, cause you're banking on it.

Ceetar
Sep 10 2013 01:29 PM
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while wanting the second admission is part of it, I suspect a larger part of it is the players union and the increased conditioning players do (and the value of said players). Playing two games in one day, especially when you don't need the extra day to travel, can be grueling.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 10 2013 01:34 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
while wanting the second admission is part of it, I suspect a larger part of it is the players union and the increased conditioning players do (and the value of said players). Playing two games in one day, especially when you don't need the extra day to travel, can be grueling.


It's the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. It always is. Teams would be scheduling quadruple-headers if the owners were convinced that more money would be made that way. Teams didn't draw nearly as many fans 30 -40 years ago and the size of the season-ticket holder base was tiny. That's why they played two then but not any more.

Zvon
Sep 10 2013 01:42 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:


It's the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. It always is.

Agreed. And they can do all the research they want. There are some aspects of the game that cant be quantified. I don't know if that's the right word.

Zvon
Sep 10 2013 01:51 PM
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I absolutely love making these baseball cards. I may have found my calling.

Ashie62
Sep 10 2013 01:56 PM
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A very nice Yogi 1965 Topps variation there..well done!

seawolf17
Sep 10 2013 07:27 PM
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Ooh, horizontal '65s look weird. Don't know if I like.

Edgy MD
Sep 10 2013 07:58 PM
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Who doesn't like the odd horizonties?

Zvon
Sep 10 2013 08:06 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Ooh, horizontal '65s look weird. Don't know if I like.

I was always like Grimm when it came to old cards, and old card remakes. Like action shots used in a year Topps didn't do that, and sideways cards when they didn't make them that year. But after being wow'd by that guys cards at Cards That Never Were I changed my mind about that kind of thing. If it looks kool, if its a good pic (or well made sideways card like I saw there-look at his 69 one) it can make for a nice looking card.

Zvon
Sep 11 2013 06:52 PM
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Yo, check this out. Unfortunately you'll need the traditional red/cyan 3D glasses. I have a pair I got from a TV Guide for some TV show a few years ago.
I found the pic at Baseball Fever. With the glasses it looks pretty stunning. It was done by a guy named Chef Bill. He says this can be done with GIMP, which I have. I'm going to try and make some 2D-3D conversions for a few cards.

Zvon
Sep 20 2013 06:17 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:
We've been playing in the 1969 sand box a bit too much Z, lets see cards that never were for the 1986 postseason!

I'd guess if Topps did a set it would be like the season highlights design in the 1987 base.

First test looks like this. I am just making the borders now. I won't be making this set of cards for a while yet.

SteveJRogers
Sep 20 2013 07:32 PM
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Zvon wrote:
SteveJRogers wrote:
We've been playing in the 1969 sand box a bit too much Z, lets see cards that never were for the 1986 postseason!

I'd guess if Topps did a set it would be like the season highlights design in the 1987 base.

First test looks like this. I am just making the borders now. I won't be making this set of cards for a while yet.


Sniff...I WANT I WANT I WANT! =;)

FWIW, Fleer did a 1986 World Series "limited edition" set and there are some cards spotlighting the postseason in Topps' Woolworth Exclusive 1986 Highlights set. Both can be picked up for about a buck or so on eBay or something.

Zvon
Sep 20 2013 07:42 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:
SteveJRogers wrote:
We've been playing in the 1969 sand box a bit too much Z, lets see cards that never were for the 1986 postseason!

I'd guess if Topps did a set it would be like the season highlights design in the 1987 base.

First test looks like this. I am just making the borders now. I won't be making this set of cards for a while yet.


Sniff...I WANT I WANT I WANT! =;)

FWIW, Fleer did a 1986 World Series "limited edition" set and there are some cards spotlighting the postseason in Topps' Woolworth Exclusive 1986 Highlights set. Both can be picked up for about a buck or so on eBay or something.

I had em both. They were neat, Fleer one especially kool looking. Iirc the Woolworth one had a red border. I love world series cards. Always have. Those I collect even if they aren't Mets.

Zvon
Sep 20 2013 07:44 PM
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No, Im thinking of another set. This is that set and I remember these. These were very kool.

Thats a classic card style.

Zvon
Sep 20 2013 07:46 PM
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I thought these were fkn beautiful.

Zvon
Oct 02 2013 08:49 PM
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I have a question, not sure where to put it. It's research for a fake card I'm working on so I'll post it here.
I'm making a Gil Hodges card for 1968. Using two sources for info, the UMB and wikipedia.

The UMB says that the Mets released Hodges on May 22, 1963. Also that he managed the Washington Senators from 1963 to 1967.

Wikipedia says that Gil was traded to the Washington Senators in late May for outfielder Jimmy Piersall so that he could replace Mickey Vernon as Washington's manager.

Which is correct?

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 02 2013 08:59 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Zvon wrote:
I have a question, not sure where to put it. It's research for a fake card I'm working on so I'll post it here.
I'm making a Gil Hodges card for 1968. Using two sources for info, the UMB and wikipedia.

The UMB says that the Mets released Hodges on May 22, 1963. Also that he managed the Washington Senators from 1963 to 1967.

Wikipedia says that Gil was traded to the Washington Senators in late May for outfielder Jimmy Piersall so that he could replace Mickey Vernon as Washington's manager.

Which is correct?


I think they're both correct. The 5/22/63 date is correct. For some odd reason, I've always committed that date to memory as being the day the Mets sent Hodges to the Senators, who then sent Piersall to the Mets the next day.

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 02 2013 09:16 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I have a question, not sure where to put it. It's research for a fake card I'm working on so I'll post it here.
I'm making a Gil Hodges card for 1968. Using two sources for info, the UMB and wikipedia.

The UMB says that the Mets released Hodges on May 22, 1963. Also that he managed the Washington Senators from 1963 to 1967.

Wikipedia says that Gil was traded to the Washington Senators in late May for outfielder Jimmy Piersall so that he could replace Mickey Vernon as Washington's manager.

Which is correct?


I think they're both correct. The 5/22/63 date is correct. For some odd reason, I've always committed that date to memory as being the day the Mets sent Hodges to the Senators, who then sent Piersall to the Mets the next day.


http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 43,3227477

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 02 2013 09:22 PM
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I'm making a Gil Hodges card for 1968. Using two sources for info, the UMB and wikipedia.



I hope everyone's checking in on Zvon's site periodically. It's a real Mets fans' treat. He's been creating some amazin' amazin' Met images since his site went up a few weeks ago.










http://metsfantasycards.blogspot.com/

Zvon
Oct 02 2013 09:36 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I have a question, not sure where to put it. It's research for a fake card I'm working on so I'll post it here.
I'm making a Gil Hodges card for 1968. Using two sources for info, the UMB and wikipedia.

The UMB says that the Mets released Hodges on May 22, 1963. Also that he managed the Washington Senators from 1963 to 1967.

Wikipedia says that Gil was traded to the Washington Senators in late May for outfielder Jimmy Piersall so that he could replace Mickey Vernon as Washington's manager.

Which is correct?


I think they're both correct. The 5/22/63 date is correct. For some odd reason, I've always committed that date to memory as being the day the Mets sent Hodges to the Senators, who then sent Piersall to the Mets the next day.



http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 43,3227477

Wow, thank you very much. Now I'm dying to know who the player to be named later was, but that can wait. And John F. Kennedy. Amazin'.

Zvon
Oct 02 2013 09:56 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Zvon wrote:
I'm making a Gil Hodges card for 1968. Using two sources for info, the UMB and wikipedia.



I hope everyone's checking in on Zvon's site periodically. It's a real Mets fans' treat. He's been creating some amazin' amazin' Met images since his site went up a few weeks ago.


Thanks for the plug. I'm finding that I am enjoying living in the Mets past as opposed to the Mets present.

I have discovered that I can pre-date entries so that when I publish them they will end up following a chronological order. I thought at some point that I would have to jump around in time with the cards but I can just insert them where I want if I wish.

So there will be times that a page will be added and it will be back in the timeline, and not appear as the newest entry when you visit there. I think anyway. Im not really sure how it goes when other people view it. I added a new 1962 card page recently, and I also have added cards and text to existing pages. It's easy to get the images up there. I'm fast at that. But text will be added over time because I'm slow at that. This will always be a work in progress. At least until I make a card for every Met who ever was, which isn't my plan but it might evolve in that direction. For right now its the essentials and in many cases a result of finding a great rare photo that dictates if a card is made.
Like this one. I had to use this somehow. What a freakin photo!

The Gil colorization is not complete I don't think, but I'm tired of working it so I will go with what I have and update it if I improve it.

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 02 2013 10:44 PM
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Did you colorize that photo? I've never seen that picture, and I've seen a lot of Mets stuff. What a find!

Zvon
Oct 03 2013 02:23 PM
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Did you colorize that photo? I've never seen that picture, and I've seen a lot of Mets stuff. What a find!

No, I found that as is, one of a series of three photos. First one looks to be a different at-bat. I thought the last two were the same pitch but if so that guy behind the fence must have taken a dive.

The great image of Mays in his prime at Shea facing Al Jackson is one thing. But to me the area behind home plate was just as exciting. I am very familiar with how Shea looked back there when I went to games, and I had never seen it like that. Just a fence. There is some padding, and that looks right, but all that open fence. They must have added padding to that or rebuilt the entire opening. And look at that thing hanging above...a loudspeaker? A lamp?
And look at that TV camera! That gets me every time.




Does anyone know for sure who the guy in the pic is?
The caption says Ron Hunt but I don't think it looks like him.


So many wrong captions on these historical photos, it's a shame :(

Zvon
Oct 08 2013 06:43 PM
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Some updated cards that were [crossout]buried[/crossout] added to older pages at the card site. I'll mix it up from time to time with the ol' time tunnel switcheroo.

seawolf17
Oct 18 2013 09:07 AM
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The new Topps Update set includes a bunch of ASG-themed cards. Some of them are jarring.

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 18 2013 09:47 AM
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A sampling of 2013 Topps Mets update cards.

1971 David Wright


Marlon Byrd camouflage variation


Matt Harvey










Zvon
Oct 18 2013 01:30 PM
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Priceless.


But make one of these to go along with it Topps.


please?

Zvon
Oct 19 2013 08:33 PM
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[url]http://metsfantasycards.blogspot.com/

Zvon
Oct 25 2013 07:40 PM
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Some new addtions to old pages.





I wanted to get the '69 world series cards up during the world series but I may not make it.

dgwphotography
Oct 27 2013 01:04 PM
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Did you tweak the sharpness on any of these? These just pop.



Zvon
Oct 27 2013 04:15 PM
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dgwphotography wrote:
Did you tweak the sharpness on any of these? These just pop.





I do so much photo tweaking to each individual image I can't recall on these two. More then not I find myself making the photo a tini bit more blurry to match with the sharpness, or lack of, in the border. But those two I definitely didn't do any blurring- cause I made that border-probably used as is. After any resizing I always sharpen it once, to pull the pixels back tight, so that may have been done. That usually returns it to it's former sharpness.

I was always against making action shots in years that Topps did not do that, but after seeing the cards at CARDS THAT NEVER WERE site I realized that done well they can be so kool looking and give the viewer a
WOW! moment.

Zvon
Oct 27 2013 08:58 PM
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This card is especially kool cause the photos from the real card (wrongly stating game 2) and this color version were taken a second apart.





Back in the day, or more specifically in '69, they didn't have MVP's for the playoffs. At least I'm pretty sure they didn't. Not really sure when that started. So, for the 1969 N.L.C.S. I'm going to make an MVP card for the playoffs. Who should win the MVP? (It can go to a player on the other team-if you check out Aarons #s)
[url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1969_NLCS.shtml
I'm thinkin Shamsky? Agee & Jones co-mvps? Hank's numbers do deserve it. But how can I not give it to a Met? :(

Zvon
Oct 31 2013 02:27 PM
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Did you tweak the sharpness on any of these? These just pop.

D.W., making the last batch of cards I took some notes as to what I do to improve the image. While I'm doing it I'm flying thru filters and contrasts like a mad doctor and it can be a bit different every time. It depends on what (I think) the image needs. But there are two things I do at the start of every photo I choose to use.

This applies to how an image looks on your 'puter screen, not necessarily good for a photo you are adjusting for printing, although many times it works well there too.

When I first started doing image work years ago, I would up the saturation and contrast, and sometimes got an okay result. Not consistent, depending upon the source resolution. Many times the color would bleed and the higher contrast would wash away details (like pinstripes on a Met uni). I don't do that any more.

I found some features in Paint Shop Pro 7 (can't speak to later versions but I imagine they would have this feature too) that served the same purpose without over saturation bleed or contrast wash. Under the COLORS tab there's is a feature simply called RED/GREEN/BLUE. It boosts those individual channels, or colors, without over-saturating. That's step one. And step two, if needed, instead of upping the contrast, I adjust the gamma correction to bring up the brightness. This allows for a brightness boost with no loss of detail (or washout). Usually after this move a much slighter contrast adjustment might be needed.
Remember, the changes made to the image are done with one thing in mind. How the result looks on a computer monitor. Its subtle, but it does pop out more. lil bit.

Adjustments to the Keith pic below:
Colors>Red/Green/Blue>RGB boost= +20% RED/+14green/+20%BLUE
Colors> Gamma Correction>Gamma correction=+1.20


Original Photo^__________________________________Adjusted^


An extreme adjustment, all RGB %'s doubled. Too much because it does wash out some pinstrips. Don't want that. So if I wanted Keiths face to pop out more I would lasso his face and add the doubling adjustment only to his face, and not the uni.


I imagine you know all the tricks photography wise, and know all this stuff, but if it helps in your photo work in any way it's worth typing all that. :)

Zvon
Nov 07 2013 08:29 PM
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For the 1970 cards I tried to imagine what a Topps special card design would look like. In other years they had those cards with two or more players posing together with a "typical Topps title" (

I have this photo and I'd really like to use it for a special card but I can't think of a cute "typical Topps title".
Anyone have any ideas? Edge, you have a knack for this and Rubes your main man. Anything come to mind?


I'm also not too thrilled with my design and if anyone has any suggestions there I'd appreciate it. I figured they would have used the same font as player names but that just don't look kool for some reason.

MFS62
Nov 08 2013 06:52 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Waitaminit.
The work that goes into this is greatly appreciated.
But if this IS the General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread, then why are there baseball card pictures in all those other threads?

Later

Ceetar
Nov 08 2013 07:21 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

MFS62 wrote:
Waitaminit.
The work that goes into this is greatly appreciated.
But if this IS the General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread, then why are there baseball card pictures in all those other threads?

Later


to make sure no thread loads too quickly.

G-Fafif
Nov 20 2013 11:34 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread


Wright


Ced


Fred

Too sexy for this thread?

Zvon
Jan 10 2014 02:59 PM
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I have a question. Not sure where to post it (don't wanna start a thread for it). It concerns info my card site so I'll ask here.
In 1967 the UMDB has Johnny Murphy listed as a Met coach (as well as vice pres of the team). Did Murphy ever really suit up and coach on the field? What is the story behind him being listed as a coach? Are there pictures of him in uniform?

Any info would be helpful.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jan 10 2014 04:01 PM
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Here's the design for the 2014 Topps cards



[url]http://www.beckett.com/news/2013/08/first-look-2014-topps-baseball-cards-with-preliminary-checklist/


Checklist seems to only include Harvey and Wheeler in the first series, so that can't be right.

[url]http://img.beckett.com/news/news-content/uploads/2013/08/zChecklist.pdf

Zvon
Jan 10 2014 04:09 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Here's the design for the 2014 Topps cards



ooo, that is NICE.

G-Fafif
Jan 12 2014 10:13 AM
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Baseball Card Theater...

[youtube:2r34slk8]j4KvW9RFZWg[/youtube:2r34slk8]

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 12 2014 10:26 AM
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Nice find.

More of the same. Big cameos from The Doc and Mookie.

(P.S. -- these videos play better in full screen mode. Clicking on the youtube logo at the bottom of these videos will get you to the youtube page, and an operable full screen button).

[youtube:3ebl8tyy]ERA7ZAN4B6E#t=74[/youtube:3ebl8tyy]

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 12 2014 10:37 AM
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OMG! These are like potato chips.

[youtube:1w1i9ube]xcbkT8fner8[/youtube:1w1i9ube]

[youtube:1w1i9ube]vhkhBQWajOg[/youtube:1w1i9ube]

Zvon
Jan 12 2014 02:24 PM
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hahaha,these are excellent!

Zvon
Jan 12 2014 02:42 PM
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Like the Cliff Johnson thing, I've been collecting up Donn Clendenon cards, looking for one in which he isn't sneering like he wants to hit you with his bat. Go google/look thru Donns cards. He always looks angry.

Does the Baseball Card Theater guy really blow all his cards off the table like that or is it an effect?

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 05 2014 02:37 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I got an e-mail from a UMDB fan who asked if there's a checklist online anywhere that lists every Mets Topps baseball card ever produced.

Does anyone know of such a thing?

Mets Guy in Michigan
Mar 05 2014 03:46 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I got an e-mail from a UMDB fan who asked if there's a checklist online anywhere that lists every Mets Topps baseball card ever produced.

Does anyone know of such a thing?



Wow, not that I know of. The challenge is what he wants to include in there. A base set checklist wouldn't be that hard. But if he's including all the various Topps sets and all the inserts and all the parallel versions and the other things that ruined the hobby, it would be brutal.

SteveJRogers
Mar 05 2014 03:48 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I got an e-mail from a UMDB fan who asked if there's a checklist online anywhere that lists every Mets Topps baseball card ever produced.

Does anyone know of such a thing?


If I have time this summer for the massive project that I've been mulling over for years...yes!

There are places like [url]http://tradingcarddb.com/ that have everything in sorted form.

Zvon
Mar 05 2014 04:21 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I ran into this looking for Met baseball card stuff a while back. Only goes up to 1991. And it does not have pics for every year. It was a good reference for seeing early cards because they had pics of those (all in one place).

[url]https://www.gfg.com/baseball/mets.shtml

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 07 2014 08:14 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Thanks Michigan, Steve, and Zvon. I've passed your responses on to the person who wrote to me.

G-Fafif
Mar 07 2014 09:25 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Get to know Zvon!

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 07 2014 09:48 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Brilliant!

The Topps Cards



The Fantazy Card.

Zvon
Mar 07 2014 02:32 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Ha, thanks Bats.

That was so kool those guys did that. James Preller seems like a very kool nice guy. I also said that the CPF was a great place to hang and watch a game with other fans but that wasn't included. Well, he couldn't keep everything in cause I was goin on and on and on like I do. ha.

I'm particularly proud of this most recent card. This one really should have been.

Frayed Knot
Mar 07 2014 02:53 PM
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That was so kool those guys did that. James Preller seems like a very kool nice guy. I also said that the CPF was a great place to hang and watch a game with other fans but that wasn't included.


Yeah it was:
I shared these digital cards with my on-line Met friends at the ”Crane Pool Forum“ [link included] and they liked them. Great small group of Mets fans there.

Zvon
Mar 07 2014 02:59 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

That was so kool those guys did that. James Preller seems like a very kool nice guy. I also said that the CPF was a great place to hang and watch a game with other fans but that wasn't included.


Yeah it was:
I shared these digital cards with my on-line Met friends at the ”Crane Pool Forum“ [link included] and they liked them. Great small group of Mets fans there.


I went on to say great place to hang and watch a game. Basically I wouldn't shut up, lol.

To me that was the most important part, to try and get more in here to enjoy the IGTs. But he couldn't know that.

Frayed Knot
Mar 07 2014 03:04 PM
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Hey, it's positive publicity and it'll be picked up by at least a few peeps who have no idea of our existence so it's nothing to sneeze at.

SteveJRogers
Mar 07 2014 03:16 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Zvon wrote:


Not to be too much of a "That Guy" but every place I've seen listing Met coaches list Robinson's nickname "Sheriff" and not his first name, including the 1972 Yearbook's roster page.

Zvon
Mar 07 2014 03:23 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

SteveJRogers wrote:
Zvon wrote:


Not to be too much of a "That Guy" but every place I've seen listing Met coaches list Robinson's nickname "Sheriff" and not his first name, including the 1972 Yearbook's roster page.


I'll never pass up on using the name Warren when possible. There aren't enough of us around.

Zvon
Mar 07 2014 03:29 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:
Hey, it's positive publicity and it'll be picked up by at least a few peeps who have no idea of our existence so it's nothing to sneeze at.

Can't hurt.

I've tried watching the game with folks on fb but it becomes such a shattered experience, jumping from this thread to that. If they could just keep it in one thread.

Does the CPF ever do an IGT on fb? fb needs one stable thread for game talk. Or we go pull everyone in here. One game, one thread.

themetfairy
Mar 07 2014 03:36 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

G-Fafif wrote:
Get to know Zvon!


That is awesome!

SteveJRogers
Mar 07 2014 05:47 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Zvon wrote:


I'll never pass up on using the name Warren when possible. There aren't enough of us around.


Fair enough... =;)

Mets Guy in Michigan
Mar 07 2014 09:01 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

themetfairy wrote:
G-Fafif wrote:
Get to know Zvon!


That is awesome!


Love it!!!

Zvon
Mar 07 2014 09:12 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Get to know Zvon!


I got a bone to pick with you over horizontal cards.

G-Fafif
Mar 07 2014 10:25 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Zvon wrote:
G-Fafif wrote:
Get to know Zvon!


I got a bone to pick with you over horizontal cards.


Ya got the wrong Fafif. You want Jason. He's the one who dreads the entry of horizontal cards into The Holy Books...though he once identified the '74 Matlack as his favorite ever, and that couldn't be more side to side, as opposed to top to bottom.

Enjoyed that interview (thanks for the non-bonepicking shoutout). James and Michael were part of the same primordial AOL Mets board ooze that produced Jason and me.

Ashie62
Mar 08 2014 01:53 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Noah's first card as a Blue Jay 2010 Bowman Draft...

Ashie62
Mar 08 2014 01:54 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

And in 2013 as a Met..

Zvon
Mar 08 2014 02:31 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

G-Fafif wrote:
G-Fafif wrote:
Get to know Zvon!


I got a bone to pick with you over horizontal cards.


Ya got the wrong Fafif. You want Jason. He's the one who dreads the entry of horizontal cards into The Holy Books...though he once identified the '74 Matlack as his favorite ever, and that couldn't be more side to side, as opposed to top to bottom.

Enjoyed that interview (thanks for the non-bonepicking shoutout). James and Michael were part of the same primordial AOL Mets board ooze that produced Jason and me.


Where's Jason? Lemme at him.
Yes, some cards can't be resisted like the Matlack. He must not fight the force.

Thanks Greg. Wow, AOL? That's pretty incredible.

Zvon
Mar 08 2014 02:32 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
And in 2013 as a Met..



OOO,nice. You really have to hold a chrome in your hands to see how beautiful they are. Web does not do them justice.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Mar 09 2014 10:12 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Zvon wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
And in 2013 as a Met..



OOO,nice. You really have to hold a chrome in your hands to see how beautiful they are. Web does not do them justice.



As a poorly photoshopped Met!

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 09 2014 10:46 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Ashie62 wrote:
And in 2013 as a Met..



Geez, time sure does fly. I can't believe that Noah Syndergaard is forty already.

Ashie62
Mar 09 2014 10:47 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Freddie Krueger? lol

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 14 2014 10:31 AM
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The 1965 style 2014 Topps Heritage cards are here.

[fimg=222:37fddscu]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3806/13149689895_b4ab15e6ef_z.jpg[/fimg:37fddscu] [fimg=422:37fddscu]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2700/13149969364_dffa47d293_o.jpg[/fimg:37fddscu] [fimg=222:37fddscu]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3714/13149690815_9004d0038f_o.jpg[/fimg:37fddscu] [fimg=422:37fddscu]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3772/13149970114_62437df64a_o.jpg[/fimg:37fddscu] [fimg=222:37fddscu]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13149691555_f53ee0b282_o.jpg[/fimg:37fddscu] [fimg=282:37fddscu]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3699/13149970934_dbbe49deff_o.jpg[/fimg:37fddscu] [fimg=222:37fddscu]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2297/13149692545_8eeae1a6b0_o.jpg[/fimg:37fddscu] [fimg=422:37fddscu]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2309/13149693115_40e302a372_o.jpg[/fimg:37fddscu]

[fimg=533:37fddscu]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3800/13150953463_fc0898cf8d_o.jpg[/fimg:37fddscu]

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 14 2014 11:35 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

In 1965, Travis's last name was spelled with a leading small capital D ----> D'ARNAUD

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 14 2014 11:45 AM
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Terry Collins is on at least as many Mets cards as Ol' Case.

[fimg=282:1r7z5mlf]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7314/13150968235_4031aabd77_o.jpg[/fimg:1r7z5mlf][fimg=222:1r7z5mlf]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3719/13151017995_ea6296f899_o.jpg[/fimg:1r7z5mlf][fimg=222:1r7z5mlf]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2676/13151139673_b620509332_o.jpg[/fimg:1r7z5mlf] [fimg=222:1r7z5mlf]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7422/13151018925_535f3d4428_o.jpg[/fimg:1r7z5mlf]

It's like one of those Presidential before and afters, where the President ages like 10 years in just one term.

Zvon
Mar 14 2014 12:20 PM
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Sweet cards. That rook card. Pop out Flores and pop in Thor and Im droolin.

Zvon
Mar 21 2014 09:09 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Would it be safe to say that Duffy Dyer's pinch hit double in the Ball On The Wall Game was the biggest hit in his MLB career?? Did he do anything else of note as a Met or otherwise?

batmagadanleadoff
May 16 2014 03:38 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Omar Quintanilla joins the club of major leaguers who played for the Mets in at least three different seasons without appearing on a Topps Base set card as a Met -- charter member -- Bobby Heise.

Omar did appear on those giant sized Topps that are used to highlight the Citi Field starting lineup. Good luck inserting one of those into your nine-pocket card sleeve holder.



Ashie62
May 16 2014 04:46 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I picked up a Dominic Smith 2013 Bowman Draft Refractor recently....

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 04 2014 10:41 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Mets Card of the Week: 1968 Tom Seaver
by Doug Parker • August 13, 2014 • 5 Comments


[fimg=233]http://mets360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/1968-Seaver-regular-213x300.jpg[/fimg]

Tom Seaver shared his 1967 Topps rookie card with Bill Denehy.

Of course, Seaver won the Rookie of the Year award that season, earning himself the privilege of not just a stand-alone card in 1968, but also one numbered with the coveted divisor of 5 (45), and adorned with the all-star rookie trophy.

In the portrait photograph selected for his 1968 card, Seaver looks impossibly young. His hat looks impossibly blue. And the sky looks only slightly less-impossibly blue. It is an impossibly beautiful and simple card.

But if the scheming Seaver had had his way, the aquarian star-children of the day would have pulled something quite different from their first-series packs.

You see, back in spring training of 1967, before he’d thrown a pitch in a big-league game, the sly rookie tried to pull a fast one on the Topps lensman, and posed in a follow-through motion as a left-handed pitcher.

And as it happens, Topps initially chose a picture from this session for Seaver’s 1968 card, going so far as to run at least one proof sheet with this layout. He would have gotten away with it too, if not for some meddling proofreader who pointed out that Seaver was indeed a right-handed pitcher.

There is only one known copy of this proof card extant, so all I can share is a degraded iPhone snap of a reproduction of a second-generation scan:

[fimg=233]http://mets360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/1968-Seaver-219x300.jpg[/fimg]

It turns out that Seaver wasn’t the only right-handed future Hall of Famer who tried to pull this stunt in 1968– Bob Gibson also appeared as a lefty on his initial proof card. Not sure if they were in cahoots, or if there was just something southpaw in the air that year…

[fimg=233]http://mets360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Bob-Gibson.jpg[/fimg]


http://mets360.com/?p=22707

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 04 2014 10:46 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Mets Card of the Week: 1968 Tom Seaver
by Doug Parker • August 13, 2014 • 5 Comments


[fimg=233]http://mets360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/1968-Seaver-regular-213x300.jpg[/fimg]

Tom Seaver shared his 1967 Topps rookie card with Bill Denehy.

Of course, Seaver won the Rookie of the Year award that season, earning himself the privilege of not just a stand-alone card in 1968, but also one numbered with the coveted divisor of 5 (45), and adorned with the all-star rookie trophy.

In the portrait photograph selected for his 1968 card, Seaver looks impossibly young. His hat looks impossibly blue. And the sky looks only slightly less-impossibly blue. It is an impossibly beautiful and simple card.

But if the scheming Seaver had had his way, the aquarian star-children of the day would have pulled something quite different from their first-series packs.

You see, back in spring training of 1967, before he’d thrown a pitch in a big-league game, the sly rookie tried to pull a fast one on the Topps lensman, and posed in a follow-through motion as a left-handed pitcher.

And as it happens, Topps initially chose a picture from this session for Seaver’s 1968 card, going so far as to run at least one proof sheet with this layout. He would have gotten away with it too, if not for some meddling proofreader who pointed out that Seaver was indeed a right-handed pitcher.

There is only one known copy of this proof card extant, so all I can share is a degraded iPhone snap of a reproduction of a second-generation scan:

[fimg=233]http://mets360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/1968-Seaver-219x300.jpg[/fimg]

It turns out that Seaver wasn’t the only right-handed future Hall of Famer who tried to pull this stunt in 1968– Bob Gibson also appeared as a lefty on his initial proof card. Not sure if they were in cahoots, or if there was just something southpaw in the air that year…

[fimg=233]http://mets360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Bob-Gibson.jpg[/fimg]


http://mets360.com/?p=22707


The proof is in the proof sheet: second row, second card.

[fimg=744]http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfoldersfh/jmoran19/uncutsheets/large/68series1c.bmp.jpg[/fimg]

Zvon
Oct 04 2014 11:24 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Wow. Never heard of any of this. Very kool.

Imagine if that card did get released as Tom's '68t! Or if it did and was pulled after they realized it, making it wacky AND rare.

Edgy MD
Oct 05 2014 05:15 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

That card is gonna be the Honus Wagner t206 of future generations.

Madoff's Mets
Oct 07 2014 02:03 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

d'Kong76
Oct 07 2014 04:07 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Didn't Seaver always wear 41 on the White Sox? I guess
if you mess around with the numbers, oh wait, who am I
to tell you about messin' with numbers? haha

d'Kong76
Oct 07 2014 04:25 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I get it now! Uh, never mind!

Edgy MD
Oct 07 2014 04:47 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Welcome abordick to Madoff's Mets.

seawolf17
Oct 07 2014 04:49 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Floyd Bannister?

d'Kong76
Oct 07 2014 05:23 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Yes, I should have googled first

Madoff's Mets
Oct 07 2014 07:32 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Yes, its the Seaver error card. Thanks for the welcome!

Zvon
Oct 07 2014 07:40 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Madoff's Mets wrote:
Yes, its the Seaver error card. Thanks for the welcome!

Kool avatar.

I used to have that card. Still might. Nope, can't find it.

The 84 Fleer traded Seaver/White Sox was a bitch to track down.
I should scan a few of these. The 84 OPC is sweet. I have 4 '84 Donruss Seavers if anyone wants one.

Zvon
Oct 07 2014 10:43 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I love the wacky Seaver cards.

Madoff's Mets
Oct 08 2014 08:12 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Zvon wrote:
Madoff's Mets wrote:
Yes, its the Seaver error card. Thanks for the welcome!

Kool avatar.

I used to have that card. Still might. Nope, can't find it.

The 84 Fleer traded Seaver/White Sox was a bitch to track down.
I should scan a few of these. The 84 OPC is sweet. I have 4 '84 Donruss Seavers if anyone wants one.


I have about 200+ Seaver cards (except the rookie). Kelloggs, mini, 1968 decal etc etc

d'Kong76
Oct 08 2014 08:54 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I was curious and looked at Beckett Media site and there
are 4,500 Tom Seaver cards listed! Some are realllly obscure,
but that number kinda floors me.

d'Kong76
Oct 08 2014 08:58 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I guess I'm card naive, Mike Piazza has 9,795.

Madoff's Mets
Oct 08 2014 10:13 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

d'Kong76 wrote:
I was curious and looked at Beckett Media site and there
are 4,500 Tom Seaver cards listed! Some are realllly obscure,
but that number kinda floors me.


I think you may have misread that. There are over 4600 threads(posts) about Seaver cards. I'm not sure of the exact number but I'm pretty sure that it doesn't top 250.

d'Kong76
Oct 08 2014 10:34 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Nah, they're all cards and some stickers. Like I said, some
of them are extremely obscure.
[fimg=900:2sayp88s]http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/seaver.png[/fimg:2sayp88s]

SteveJRogers
Oct 08 2014 10:35 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

According to this site, as of this year's early releases, 4,036
[url]http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Person.cfm/pid/5301/Tom-Seaver

With 50 already this year!

Granted, the majority are special parallel set cards, but still it is pretty substantial thanks to being in plenty of the nostalgic based sets and subsets that have come out from the major companies over the last two decades.

d'Kong76
Oct 08 2014 10:44 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

After reading Stevie's post, maybe M'sM means there were only
a couple hundred cards issued during Seaver's career.

Edgy MD
Oct 08 2014 10:47 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

What are "parallel set cards"? Some sort of reprints?

SteveJRogers
Oct 08 2014 11:06 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

d'Kong76 wrote:
After reading Stevie's post, maybe M'sM means there were only
a couple hundred cards issued during Seaver's career.


Most likely 1965/66-1987, with the explosion being since...I want to say 1994, or possibly 1991 with Topps' 40th Anniversary, is when the nostalgia boom hit the hobby in terms of the brands that focused on the current sports making tons of cards of past stars in some fashion.

Edgy MD wrote:
What are "parallel set cards"? Some sort of reprints?


Kinda. Gimmicked in some fashion to make them more collectible, and in some cases (i.e. the one of a kind specific color printing press of the card) rarer.

Madoff's Mets
Oct 08 2014 12:32 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Thanks for that link. There are some obscure ones. I only collected his cards through 1987.

seawolf17
Oct 08 2014 01:49 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Parallels are colored variations, typically short-printed and/or numbered. In packs of this year's base Topps set, you can find red (at Target), blue (at Walmart), purple (at Toys R Us), yellow (in special "hanger packs"), green (in all the "retail" packs), "red hot," gold (numbered /2014), camo (numbered /99), black (/63, only available at baseball card shops), pink (/50), clear plastic stock (/10), and platinum (only 1 version made of each card).

For example, some of the 2014 Topps Murph parallels: http://www.comc.com/Cards,so,vDetails,= ... s+mets+155

They can make you crazy, but can be fun too:


https://twitter.com/cdorso/status/418041771088953344

d'Kong76
Oct 08 2014 02:05 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Were issues like Topps Venezuelan cards considered
parallel cards or is there another buzz word?

SteveJRogers
Oct 08 2014 02:19 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

d'Kong76 wrote:
Were issues like Topps Venezuelan cards considered
parallel cards or is there another buzz word?


Parallel means the same exact card, right down to the number on the back, as the base set. So no, the 1975 minis I believe are the first official parallel cards.

Ashie62
Oct 08 2014 07:35 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

The Topps Venezuelan cards stand alone as a set.

Edgy MD
Oct 08 2014 07:37 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Parallels are colored variations, typically short-printed and/or numbered. In packs of this year's base Topps set, you can find red (at Target), blue (at Walmart), purple (at Toys R Us), yellow (in special "hanger packs"), green (in all the "retail" packs), "red hot," gold (numbered /2014), camo (numbered /99), black (/63, only available at baseball card shops), pink (/50), clear plastic stock (/10), and platinum (only 1 version made of each card).

For example, some of the 2014 Topps Murph parallels: http://www.comc.com/Cards,so,vDetails,= ... s+mets+155

They can make you crazy, but can be fun too:


https://twitter.com/cdorso/status/418041771088953344

Wow!

This is obviously an insanely cynical move to get eight times as much change out of Stony Brook suckers like yourself.

d'Kong76
Oct 08 2014 08:27 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 08 2014 08:35 PM

Ashie62 wrote:
The Topps Venezuelan cards stand alone as a set.

I kinda knew that, since it's listed as sets in a few
things I have/had access to. I was more wondering if
they were like the original parallel sets or something.

d'Kong76
Oct 08 2014 08:33 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Edgy MD wrote:
This is obviously an insanely cynical move to get eight times as much change out of Stony Brook suckers like yourself.

Well, that's kinda harsh. Collecting stuff is fun and if
that's the niche you want you go get it.

I stopped collecting Mets cards up to about 2000. The
industry just got so insane ya can't keep up with it unless
you make it a second business or something. No longer fun.

Edgy MD
Oct 08 2014 09:06 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

d'Kong76 wrote:
Well, that's kinda harsh.

Well sure, but it's said with love.

That said, the problem is that
1) the collecting hobby leads to a spirit of completionism, which leads
2) the producers to make more product to exploit that drive the collector has, which leads to
3) more and increasingly less interesting and distinctive product, which leads to
4) a diminishing spirit in the collector, which leads to
5) ultimately quitting in frustration, or becoming an absolute nut.

d'Kong76
Oct 08 2014 09:27 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

That was unnecessary. Particularly the picture for
the final cyber-punch.

Edgy MD
Oct 08 2014 09:39 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Not meant as an assault. Only a lament.

d'Kong76
Oct 08 2014 09:53 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Edgy MD wrote:
Not meant as an assault.

No, assault would be the wrong word. But
it's something.

Zvon
Oct 09 2014 12:12 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

SteveJRogers wrote:


Most likely 1965/66-1987, with the explosion being since...I want to say 1994, or possibly 1991 with Topps' 40th Anniversary, is when the nostalgia boom hit the hobby in terms of the brands that focused on the current sports making tons of cards of past stars in some fashion.


I thought the boom started around 85, took off and peaked 88 and 89 (w89UD), and then the whole structure of card collecting and card dealing changed, starting with the upshoot in quality and prices. I stopped buying any more than one box of cards a season (only if my bros and I go in on em) around 1994ish. Basivcally stopped collecting although Id grab packs here and there and hope for Mets.

Like Kong, I was no longer having fun, and getting fixed on a card that was almost impossible to get without buying it (for a nice lil markup) from someone who hoarded 50 hunded boxes to get it, I found a frustrating and empty experience. When you look at a card you wanted after you get it and you don't feel great about it being in your hand, the thrill is gone.

But lately I've been getting a lil excited about collecting again. Like in 85, I got back into it because of Gooden. Harvey could have the same effect on me. If he does as great as he thinks he is going to do, and I really hope he does, I'm gonna want to start a nice Harvey collection---mostly by getting them thru packs.

OE: Topps didnt really take advantage of the boom until around 1990/91. I have to say, Topps is a wacky company for the front runners in card making.

Edgy MD
Oct 09 2014 06:24 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Zvon wrote:
Like Kong, I was no longer having fun, and getting fixed on a card that was almost impossible to get without buying it (for a nice lil markup) from someone who hoarded 50 hunded boxes to get it, I found a frustrating and empty experience. When you look at a card you wanted after you get it and you don't feel great about it being in your hand, the thrill is gone.

That's what I'm trying to describe.

seawolf17
Oct 09 2014 06:59 AM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
That was unnecessary. Particularly the picture for
the final cyber-punch.

Perhaps, but ultimately spot-on. The industry is thriving -- just in a very small niche market. The mass market isn't there, and probably never will be again. Since I restarted collecting about ten years ago, I've gone in waves. I'm cutting back considerably.

d'Kong76
Oct 09 2014 12:08 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Elitist swine!
http://www.kcmets.com/CardImages/

d'Kong76
Oct 09 2014 12:17 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 09 2014 12:31 PM

Here's what I was looking for, I never throw anything
away (nor finish anything) ...
http://www.kcmets.com/MetsCardsTopps62to71.html
http://www.kcmets.com/MetsCardsTopps72to81.html
http://www.kcmets.com/MetsCardsTopps82to91.html

d'Kong76
Oct 09 2014 12:18 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

http://www.kcmets.com/MetsCardsDonruss81to91.html

Ashie62
Oct 09 2014 12:34 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

The industry feels like a bunch of 50 year old men selling/buying to other 50 year old men.

The high end stuff, or the hot guy Du jour i.e.deGrom move, the rest is pretty much moribund for now.

d'Kong76
Oct 09 2014 12:45 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Yeah, and the problem with selling to aging men is
sometimes they forget to pay their eBay bills!

Ashie62
Oct 09 2014 12:52 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 09 2014 05:43 PM

d'Kong76 wrote:
Yeah, and the problem with selling to aging men is
sometimes they forget to pay their eBay bills!

d'Kong76
Oct 09 2014 01:10 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Yeah, that's basically how it went. Thanks!

Zvon
Oct 09 2014 03:25 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Ashie62 wrote:
The industry feels like a bunch of 50 year old men selling/buying to other 50 year old men.

The high end stuff, or the hot guy Du jour i.e.deGrom move, the rest is pretty much moribund for now.


I've been making the rounds baseball card blog's, the ones that deal with real cards, and from what I see from the outside they have a great online community that works fantastically with each other.

Some are older, some are younger, none in it to make money. They all have their own specialty, whether its a team or a player (usually a mix of a number of different types of collections). Those people take care of each other, hook each other up with cards. They trade cards, give each other cards for nothing when they can, conduct contests and give cards away to readers. It's great what they do, and if I ever got back into it real serious I'd enjoy being part of that community.

Zvon
Oct 09 2014 03:28 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Here's what I was looking for, I never throw anything
away (nor finish anything)
...
http://www.kcmets.com/MetsCardsTopps62to71.html
http://www.kcmets.com/MetsCardsTopps72to81.html
http://www.kcmets.com/MetsCardsTopps82to91.html


That's like my lifes motto, unfortunately.

I've never seen that site. Is it active? Great info.

d'Kong76
Oct 09 2014 06:17 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Gosh, no not active as a site ... that was several
chapters ago on the intermets. Use the server a lot
here and a few other places.

There's a few pages that still get a lot of hits, this
one in particular:
http://www.kcmets.com/YearbookImages/Ye ... 2to86.html

Zvon
Oct 09 2014 07:36 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

d'Kong76 wrote:
Gosh, no not active as a site ... that was several
chapters ago on the intermets. Use the server a lot
here and a few other places.

There's a few pages that still get a lot of hits, this
one in particular:
http://www.kcmets.com/YearbookImages/Ye ... 2to86.html

Very kool. Oh, I hit that page before, a number of times, going waaaaay back. Never noticed it was yours. Found the great rez YB pics there. Saved them all and a much belated thank you for those.

Zvon
Dec 02 2014 02:07 PM
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Went all out for a Topps update deGrom. Got it in my second blister box. Also got his "debut" card. Topps put's the SC (rookie card) symbol on both. I don't like that. I consider only the one that has stats as his true rookie card.
[fimg=200:2xvsiubj]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hpnpE_mGAeQ/VH4lxoGVkTI/AAAAAAAAV4Y/KVHs99jrw-I/s512/ToppsUD50-JdG.png[/fimg:2xvsiubj] [fimg=300:2xvsiubj]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Hn4gpcsFG6Y/VH4ly8pJG7I/AAAAAAAAV4c/mblIjp-MA70/s720/ToppsUD57-JdG.png[/fimg:2xvsiubj]
Got all the Mets in the set, I think (missing one checklist). Got Montero RC, Bobby Abreu, Murph allstar game card (I don't like the ASG cards being in the update set- that's a waste), and I'm pretty sure that's all of 'em.
[fimg=200:2xvsiubj]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5l6c1rb4lPg/VH4lyoidFpI/AAAAAAAAV4k/PhHTxyRPSyI/s512/ToppsUD278-RM.png[/fimg:2xvsiubj]
The UD packs also include a sub series called :"The Future Is Now". It depicts a slew of rooks and I assume there is one of these for deGrom. As a matter of fact, Mike Wacha has at least 4 different versions of his "Future Is Now" card ( I have 4- Maybe there are more-have not seen a chklist for these). Does anyone know if there is a "The Future Is Now" card for Mr. deGrom?

seawolf17
Dec 02 2014 02:48 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

There are a handful of throwaway Mets in the Update set this year: Chris Young, Matsuzaka, Satin, Q, Andrew Brown.

No "Future Is Now" cards for deGrom in the set, though.

Zvon
Dec 02 2014 03:02 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

seawolf17 wrote:
There are a handful of throwaway Mets in the Update set this year: Chris Young, Matsuzaka, Satin, Q, Andrew Brown.

No "Future Is Now" cards for deGrom in the set, though.


Well, I think spending 40 bucks for deGroms rook is enough for now. I'd like to have all the Mets in the set but I'd do better to get them individually at this point. 330 cards in this UD set. That's too many cards, man. There's dead weight in there with the ASG cards and all the other bullshit.

I'm glad deGrom doesn't have a "Future Is Now" card. I'm not a big fan of those fancy side subsets. But I think I would have wanted that card. So deGrom gets none and Wacha gets four. Ha. Good job Topps.

Thnx 4 the info seawolf17.

Madoff's Mets
Dec 03 2014 07:54 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I have a case of 1989 Score Cello packs if anyone wants to buy them. LOL

Madoff's Mets
Dec 03 2014 07:57 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Oh and being a Mets fan in the 1960's hurt me financially. I hated the Yankees so much, I would use Mickey Mantle cards as noisemakers on the spokes of my bicycle.

seawolf17
Dec 03 2014 08:31 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Madoff's Mets wrote:
Oh and being a Mets fan in the 1960's hurt me financially. I hated the Yankees so much, I would use Mickey Mantle cards as noisemakers on the spokes of my bicycle.

That's pretty funny.

And your other post reminded me that I bought a box of 88 Score packs for five bucks in Cooperstown last fall, and I have no idea where I put it. I need to find that.

Zvon
Dec 06 2014 03:48 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

So now I find out that there are alternate versions of Topps cards in 2014. Some use a different photo, some have all sabermetric stats on the back instead of reg stats. Some have a sparkly effect (reg white border, not the red sparklies). I'd like to shoot for the rarest Topps deGrom card out there, but I don't even know which card that would be. Saw this on Ebay (deGroms/Montero/Abreu photo variations-20 bucks for the deGrom):

[fimg=200:p4zp9mm1]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CEe6chzOZho/VIODRlUOdRI/AAAAAAAAV54/t3vnUOdXzJU/s500/ewfg.JPG[/fimg:p4zp9mm1][fimg=200:p4zp9mm1]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ASKrfixfKIU/VIODSYMynDI/AAAAAAAAV6I/dwpdjsltG3Y/s512/wew.JPG[/fimg:p4zp9mm1][fimg=200:p4zp9mm1]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-otMdnWIee-Q/VIODRsy0O4I/AAAAAAAAV5w/IwvAhygFOAA/s512/tut57.JPG[/fimg:p4zp9mm1]

Looking through the cards I have picked up over the last season I'd have to surmise that the sabermetric stat cards are the rarest. I've only seen one (Mike Olt). I don't know if there is one for deGrom. I've seen a bunch of photo variations. No Mets.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Dec 08 2014 09:03 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Does anyone have the Topps Met team set that comes in a blister pack? I see it on eBay for about $5. Are the cards in that any different that in the packs?

seawolf17
Dec 08 2014 09:10 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

The only card that's particular to that set is the 17th card, which is a "Citi Field" card.

On the Update variations: those three you posted are the short-printed variations. The fourth Met variation is Dice-K; the short-printed one shows him bunting. No other deGrom variations; the only other Met SPs are two "sabermetric stats" and one "sparkle."



Zvon
Dec 09 2014 01:57 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

One of my brothers got the Dice-K bunting card. I'll have him check the back for saberskullduggery.

He also got this Derek Jeter card, a reproduction of his 2009 card with a metal (frame like) border, numbered 53/75. Don't see much about them on-line. Very kool card.

Zvon
Dec 14 2014 07:30 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Jason, I read about the Topps Archive pics you bought (at F&FiF). I'm curious as to what those pics go off at (i think you said auction), on average? And I'm not thinking stars, but average Mets.


I spend way too much time removing watermarks. shhh!

seawolf17
Dec 15 2014 07:40 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

The pictures are all over eBay; poke around. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Topps-Base ... 1449740727

Also: Sy Berger, the father of modern baseball cards, passed away. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12027 ... ies-age-91

seawolf17
Dec 16 2014 07:30 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Keith Olbermann on Berger.

[youtube:3f7jx93w]jHHmMAcOIXg[/youtube:3f7jx93w]

Zvon
Dec 16 2014 12:57 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

seawolf17 wrote:
Keith Olbermann on Berger.


Excellent.

I went to see which Tommie Reynolds I have. I have the "Tom,space,space,space (no trace)" one.

I imagine the one with the traces of "mie" would be the rarest.

Zvon
Dec 16 2014 05:44 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

I didn't have one for my '67 customs, so I thought now would be a good time to make one.
[fimg=300:5arsms9c]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NhOKowm7d_w/VJDxv_gb-RI/AAAAAAAAWOE/5Lpv5al5dVU/s576/67mfcTommieReynolds-z15.png[/fimg:5arsms9c]

Now if I wanted Olbermann to see the card, I figure tweeting it would be best. But how do I get it going in his direction? Do I go with #Olbermann (with #Tommie Reynolds)? Like you would add "ATTENTION" to a letter?

I'll probably understand the Twitterverse the day everyone stops sending tweets. :(

seawolf17
Dec 17 2014 07:21 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

Just make sure you include @KeithOlbermann in there somewhere and it'll hit his notifications. (Or his Twitter guy's notifications, anyway.)

Zvon
Dec 17 2014 02:35 PM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

seawolf17 wrote:
Just make sure you include @KeithOlbermann in there somewhere and it'll hit his notifications. (Or his Twitter guy's notifications, anyway.)


My niece explained that to me. I thought I just throw it out on Twitter and maybe he sees it. But with the "@KeithOlbermann", like you said, that's like a direct line to his account notifications.

I'm okay with throwing it out there, but contacting him directly makes me nervous for some reason. It's the kind of nervous that I'd experience when getting a player to sign a portrait I drew, or something like that. I'm confident in my stuff and I can handle criticism so I don't know what that's all about. Needless to say, I didn't Tweet the card to him :(

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 01 2015 06:52 AM
Re: General All Purpose Baseball Card Thread

This thread has gotten rather large too. Let's continue this conversation in a 2015 thread.