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bmfc1
May 21 2011 09:01 AM

Since April 21, the Mets have the fourth-best record in the majors, behind only the Braves, Red Sox and Cardinals. This run won’t change the Mets’ 2011 profile – they’re not playoff-bound – but it’s nevertheless erased some of the pre-existing notions about Terry Collins and life without some of their stars.


F*** you. The first sentence is fine but then he returns to his Met-hating norm by telling us, without qualification, that the Mets will not make the playoffs. How does he know? I bet he wouldn't have guessed that the Mets wouldn't be at .500, have the 4th best record since April 21, or even have beaten his MFYs last night.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_s ... ility.html

soupcan
May 21 2011 09:44 AM
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Hate to say it, but I agree with Klap.

Ceetar
May 21 2011 09:49 AM
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That's odd, I thought winning was exactly how you changed a profile.

G-Fafif
May 21 2011 12:00 PM
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Klap might as well write:

This reporter doesn't bother with facts, just preconceived notions. LET'S GO YANK-EES!

Ceetar
May 21 2011 12:56 PM
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Waldstein had a good article today imo.

Also, this seems as good a place for it as any: didn't it sound like the Yankees fans were doing some sort of chant/cheer last night like they were in Cleveland?

Ashie62
May 21 2011 02:17 PM
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Hard to tell..I had troubling getting by Keith's manlove for Jeter last night.

G-Fafif
May 22 2011 09:09 AM
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Klap incapable of writing a simple "good guy, I hope he's OK" column about a Met in potential life-threatening danger.

In a clubhouse with few rules (and no one to enforce them, anyway) there always was one caveat when you approached Gary Carter’s locker: Prepare for a filibuster. One question could net you the Gettysburg Address, but that’s not what made “The Kid” unique among the ’86 Mets.

It was his cheerful nature – an optimism that was out of place amid his teammates’ savage in-fighting. Carter was the Mets’ co-captain, yet he never was part of the team’s inner circle. He was too nice for that, which is why news that he’d been diagnosed with four brain tumors was so devastating. Good guys like Carter deserve better.


Mets were out of hand. Carter talked too much. Mets were unpleasant to be around. Mets didn't even like each other. They certainly couldn't fully accept a nice man. He didn't deserve this...but maybe somebody else did?

This is one of those darker signposts that we pass during the course of our lives, the ones that manage to age us. Somehow, “The Kid” already is 57; where did the years go? Has it really been a quarter-century since Jesse Orosco was leaping into Carter’s arms after striking out Marty Barrett to end Game 7 of the World Series?

The image is as permanent as a tattoo, even if time has extracted its revenge on a number of ’80s-era Mets. Lenny Dykstra was arrested last month on bankruptcy fraud charges and faces up to five years in federal prison. Dwight Gooden, an Old Tappan resident, continues to battle addiction and recently was sentenced to five years’ probation for driving under the influence of cocaine and sleeping pills while taking his 5-year-old son to school.


Carter is ill -- and several other Mets have broken the law lately...take that, Mets, for stealing the 1986 World Series from my precious Yankees who deserve to win every year.

It took years for the Mets to make peace with Carter’s flaws – he talked too much, and he wasn’t afraid to promote himself, especially when his name was on the Hall of Fame ballot. And he made present-day enemies, Keith Hernandez among them, when he openly campaigned for Willie Randolph’s job in 2008.


Great guy, but boy has he not been perfect, and this seems like a good time to bring up why he's far from perfect.

But Carter had an instinct about selling the Mets – and the sport – that was ahead of his time. In the ’80s, ballplayers were too cool and often too disoriented to interact with fans. The Mets were outdrawing the Yankees every year between 1984-92; the players were all on a first-name basis with the city.

Kid, Nails, Mex, Straw, Doc – it didn’t matter whether they signed autographs or not, because the Mets ruled the world – including the bars and clubs – on the other side of midnight.

Carter didn’t live that way. Like Mookie Wilson, he was happily married, faithful to his wife, Sandy, didn’t drink, didn’t touch drugs. That made Carter an outcast in the clubhouse. Carter knew he often was mocked by Hernandez and Darryl Strawberry, among others. But The Kid never returned fire, either on or off the record, instead concentrating on playing hard and interacting with the media.


I seriously don't get any of the above three paragraphs in relation to what this is supposed to be about. He was the ONLY baseball player who signed autographs back then? The Mets drew fans because they were a bunch of drunks? Did he "concentrate" on interacting with the media, or was he someone who understood it was part of his job to answer questions, lengthily or otherwise? (And how come Ray Knight, acknowledged leader in that clubhouse, always gets left out of these formulations -- he was, by all indications, happily married and not a hellraiser off the field.)

Carter’s postgame smile was that of a prophet’s: He sensed the coming of the golden era, which the Mets never have duplicated. Carter taught New York that nothing was beyond the imagination – a lesson that, sadly, is being relearned today.


His smile was that of a prophet's? WTF? He was the only one who recognized that coming to a 90-win team filled with outstanding young pitching and several solid and better hitters was going to create a golden era (filled with savage infighting wherein nobody but him signed an autograph and everybody stayed out too late and got what they ultimately deserved, except Carter didn't)? And if "nothing was beyond the imagination," how is that a lesson to relearn sadly?

This, I suppose, is what Klapisch has to sell where the Mets are concerned. "The '80s Mets," as he likes to refer to them, were the team that put him on the map but apparently weren't nice to him, so he goes to the well over and over again...which is neither here nor there most days (when he's too busy praising the MFYs to notice the Mets), but how is it he can't focus 800 words on a Hall of Fame catcher diagnosed with four tumors on his brain without dredging everything about everybody else up?

"Hack Curry" was a play on words. "Hack Klapisch" is an accurate critical synopsis.

bmfc1
May 22 2011 09:22 AM
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Excellent review. Klapisch wrote:
Good guys like Carter deserve better.
So all the bad guys deserve to get sick?

This column reads as is Klapisch had an early deadline for Saturday night, wanted to say something nice about Carter, and then ran out of any interesting after 100 words so he rambled for way too long. Klapisch is the Charles Krauthammer of New York area sports columnists.

MFS62
May 22 2011 10:00 AM
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bmfc1 wrote:
Klapisch is the Charles Krauthammer of New York area sports columnists.

Whether or not you agree with him, Krauthammer sometimes has something interesting to say. And, in contrast to Klapisch, usually writes it well.
Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 22 2011 12:19 PM
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Nice take, Geef.

Edgy DC
May 22 2011 12:29 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
"Hack Curry" was a play on words. "Hack Klapisch" is an accurate critical synopsis.

"Hack Klapisch" is an imperative sentence.

An imperative imperative sentence.

Yes, nice work.

metirish
May 24 2011 07:17 AM
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Bob today

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_s ... purge.html

Ceetar
May 24 2011 07:28 AM
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metirish wrote:
Bob today

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_s ... purge.html


I heard Michael Kay use the purge word too. Is this a way to make the Mets situation sound even worse than fire sale or rebuilding process?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 24 2011 07:47 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
Bob today

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_s ... purge.html


I heard Michael Kay use the purge word too. Is this a way to make the Mets situation sound even worse than fire sale or rebuilding process?


I can't believe anyone could read that article and come away with the impression Fred Wilpon is calculating or clever enough to send signals through a writer, particularly when he doesn't even know what if anything the writer will use of their conversation.

Seems as though however the comments critical of the Mets come at the end of a game they'd watched together. Does Fred drink? Maybe he helped himself to a couple Shackmeisters by the time those moments came.

metirish
May 24 2011 07:54 AM
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Yeah it was during that awful Houston series......from all I've read Fred comes across as not all that smart and I wonder how the hell he ever made it in the real estate/construction business.

Madoff saying Fred and Saul were not sophisticated enough to understand what was going on is some insult I'd imagine , although it might be his defense. (yeah I know Madoff has no credibility but it seems to fit with what others say.)

Edgy DC
May 24 2011 07:59 AM
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How sophisticated do you have to be? It's not like the rest of the folks he ripped off were semi-literates just off the turnip truck.

Ceetar
May 24 2011 08:03 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
How sophisticated do you have to be? It's not like the rest of the folks he ripped off were semi-literates just off the turnip truck.


Obviously as sophisticated as Klapisch who would've known something was up!

Madoff appears to be clearly more intelligent than, well roughly everyone, so as smart or dumb as Fred actually is, Madoff still probably has him by a good margin.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 24 2011 08:30 AM
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metirish wrote:
Yeah it was during that awful Houston series......from all I've read Fred comes across as not all that smart and I wonder how the hell he ever made it in the real estate/construction business.

Madoff saying Fred and Saul were not sophisticated enough to understand what was going on is some insult I'd imagine , although it might be his defense. (yeah I know Madoff has no credibility but it seems to fit with what others say.)


Article lays out Fred's Blueprint for Success: Concentrate on personal relationships, networking and in-laws with enormous genitals.

They basically got lucky in real estate as they explain, got in on the Mets early, and later discovered THAT was good for the real estate business.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 24 2011 08:57 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Seems as though however the comments critical of the Mets come at the end of a game they'd watched together. Does Fred drink? Maybe he helped himself to a couple Shackmeisters by the time those moments came.


The game was the Astros loss that brought the season record to 5-13.

Toobin appeared today on one of the local morning shows, and the host asked the alcohol question. He asserted both were swigging Pepsi/Diet Pepsi.

batmagadanleadoff
May 24 2011 09:02 AM
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Article lays out Fred's Blueprint for Success: Concentrate on personal relationships, networking and in-laws with enormous genitals.

They basically got lucky in real estate as they explain, got in on the Mets early, and later discovered THAT was good for the real estate business.



I don't see how someone can make all that money without getting very lucky. In my next life, I'm going to devote all of my studies and all of my schooling towards improving my luck. Because what they say is true: it's better to be lucky than anything else.

TransMonk
May 24 2011 10:02 AM
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Klap wrote:
Reyes never has asked for Carl Crawford money from the Mets. He’s never asked for a penny yet. There have been no contract discussions between the shortstop and ownership, which means Wilpon only has managed to fray the fibers of the relationship. The Mets can forget about getting a hometown discount from Reyes this winter – and that’s assuming they have the money to negotiate in earnest.

Klapisch doesn't know this to be true. Maybe behind closed doors, Reyes has been asking for more money for months now.

And anyone who really thinks Reyes was going to give the Mets a hometown discount even before Fred's comments is a dreamer.

What Wilpon said changed nothing about what was inevitable this summer regarding the coming and going of players.

Vic Sage
May 24 2011 10:56 AM
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I don't see how someone can make all that money without getting very lucky. In my next life, I'm going to devote all of my studies and all of my schooling towards improving my luck. Because what they say is true: it's better to be lucky than anything else.


Too much work. Just come back as the child of someone who was incredibly lucky. Which, i guess, is the kind of luck you really need, at least to start.