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Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

G-Fafif May 25 2011 02:11 PM

With his fifth-inning infield single off Ryan Dempster in Chicago, Jose Reyes last night passed David Wright for third place on the all-time Mets hit list. He also moved within five hits of Cleon Jones in second place. METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 5/24/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. Cleon Jones 1,188 3. JOSE REYES 1,183 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182 Jose had the advantage of David being on the Disabled List, which is where Jose sat when David passed Jose on September 3, 2009 with a single to right off Matt Herges at Colorado. David, incidentally, spotted Jose (first hit: June 10, 2003) a 113-hit lead before putting his first hit on the board on July 22, 2004. Breaks my heart to think they may not be going at it in the quest to pass Ed Kranepool and then to see who gets to 2,000 first.

batmagadanleadoff May 25 2011 02:13 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Ed Kranepool -- Teflon Eddie. (I'm probably speaking too soon).

G-Fafif May 25 2011 02:14 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Ed Kranepool -- Teflon Eddie. I don't doubt he puppetmastered the Madoff debacle just to make sure Fred would have to let Jose go...just as he was mentally fracturing David's lower back. Who do you think whispered in Steve Phillips' ear to let Fonzie walk?

seawolf17 May 25 2011 02:16 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

"Won't retire #7, eh? We'll fucking see about that."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2011 02:16 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

My first thought on seeing this thread: "What the fuck did Kranepool say now?"

metirish May 25 2011 02:23 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I want to give this optimism carryon a go for a while. I see no reason at all why Reyes will not only surpass Edward Kranepool on the hit list but he'll get 2000 hits as a Mets player.

soupcan May 25 2011 02:26 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Blink once if Ceetar has a gun to your head.

TransMonk May 25 2011 02:29 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I don't share the Reyes optimism, but... David's only 236 away and he's signed through next year (and then still has a club option). I believe that if he's healthy he will eventually be the Mets hits leader.

Ceetar May 25 2011 02:34 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Yes, that's fine. Let's get rid of those guys so that when Yankees fans talk about their Ruthian, literally, records and mention guys like Gehrig in the record books we can talk about our Ed Kranepool.

Edgy MD May 25 2011 02:36 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Y'all are so Yankee-mindsetted. I'm hoping to retain them for the sake of victory, more than to pimp out the record book in the face of Yankee fans.

G-Fafif May 25 2011 02:39 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Edgy DC wrote: Y'all are so Yankee-mindsetted. I'm hoping to retain them for the sake of victory, more than to pimp out the record book in the face of Yankee fans. Mets records for Mets records sake. And the winning -- that would be nice, too.

dgwphotography May 25 2011 02:42 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I have this fear that Wright will be gone after next year, too. I was 14 when Seaver was traded. My daughter, a huge David Wright fan, will be 14 next year. I hate it when history repeats itself...

Ceetar May 25 2011 02:44 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

G-Fafif wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Y'all are so Yankee-mindsetted. I'm hoping to retain them for the sake of victory, more than to pimp out the record book in the face of Yankee fans. Mets records for Mets records sake. And the winning -- that would be nice, too. yeah. I don't really mean it as a Yankee comparison. I've been watching their hits flip flop for a while now, and the idea that you could've a friendly 'race' to Kranepool and to 1500 and to 2000 with the fun-loving left side of the infield for years to come has to be marketing gold no? I envision a Sosa-McGwire type race to 2000 in 3-4 years with them having fun with it. Wright joking that Reyes has the advantage because he bats first. Reyes snipes back with "You have more WS hits though!"

TransMonk May 25 2011 02:48 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

dgwphotography wrote: I have this fear that Wright will be gone after next year, too. Even with that fear...if he can't pick up 236 more hits over the next season and a half, he will have regressed to league average at best...or he will have been majorily injured.

dgwphotography May 25 2011 02:49 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

TransMonk wrote: dgwphotography wrote: I have this fear that Wright will be gone after next year, too. Even with that fear...if he can't pick up 236 more hits over the next season and a half, he will have regressed to league average at best...or he will have been majorily injured. That's not the point. Especially in a large market, cornerstones like Wright and Reyes shouldn't go anywhere

seawolf17 May 25 2011 02:50 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Ceetar wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Y'all are so Yankee-mindsetted. I'm hoping to retain them for the sake of victory, more than to pimp out the record book in the face of Yankee fans. Mets records for Mets records sake. And the winning -- that would be nice, too. yeah. I don't really mean it as a Yankee comparison. I've been watching their hits flip flop for a while now, and the idea that you could've a friendly 'race' to Kranepool and to 1500 and to 2000 with the fun-loving left side of the infield for years to come has to be marketing gold no? I envision a Sosa-McGwire type race to 2000 in 3-4 years with them having fun with it. Wright joking that Reyes has the advantage because he bats first. Reyes snipes back with "You have more WS hits though!" Yeah! That! Come on, Mets. Don't be a dick. Just effin' sign these guys.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2011 02:52 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

TransMonk wrote: dgwphotography wrote: I have this fear that Wright will be gone after next year, too. Even with that fear...if he can't pick up 236 more hits over the next season and a half, he will have regressed to league average at best...or he will have been majorily injured. Mets Star Literally All Right; Wright Loses Left Arm and Leg In Baggage Carousel Accident

G-Fafif May 25 2011 03:00 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Carlos Beltran at No. 13, with 819, unlikely to catch Keith Hernandez (939) for twelfth before he departs. Next among active Mets on the franchise hits list: T-61. Angel Pagan 309 95. Daniel Murphy 209 T-108. Ike Davis 177 T-153. Jason Bay 112 T-168. Josh Thole 96 (tied with Willie Mays) T-220. Nick Evans 54 227. Ruben Tejada 51 So even with the Krane providing the relatively low ceiling, it's never easy to keep Mets around long enough to get up in Ed's rarefied air...which is why it will break my heart if the two players within hitting distance of Eddie doesn't get a shot at breaking the record.

Elster88 May 25 2011 07:17 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I'm dying over here. Teflon Eddie, "What did Kranepool say", "blink if Ceetar has a gun to your head". I'm not quite as suicidal as I was a few minutes ago.

Elster88 May 25 2011 07:22 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

G-Fafif wrote: Carlos Beltran at No. 13, with 819, unlikely to catch Keith Hernandez (939) for twelfth before he departs. Next among active Mets on the franchise hits list: T-61. Angel Pagan 309 95. Daniel Murphy 209 T-108. Ike Davis 177 T-153. Jason Bay 112 T-168. Josh Thole 96 (tied with Willie Mays) T-220. Nick Evans 54 227. Ruben Tejada 51t So even with the Krane providing the relatively low ceiling, it's never easy to keep Mets around long enough to get up in Ed's rarefied air...which is why it will break my heart if the two players within hitting distance of Eddie doesn't get a shot at breaking the record. Please add a poll to this thread: First to break the Met hit record. a) Jose Reyes b) David Wright c) Ike Davis d) MiniKnight

Ashie62 May 25 2011 07:37 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

TransMonk wrote: dgwphotography wrote: I have this fear that Wright will be gone after next year, too. Even with that fear...if he can't pick up 236 more hits over the next season and a half, he will have regressed to league average at best...or he will have been majorily injured. Cmon..David is a Superstar!

G-Fafif May 25 2011 09:43 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 5/25/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. Cleon Jones 1,188 3. JOSE REYES 1,185 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182 Watch out, Cleon!

G-Fafif May 25 2011 09:46 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 26 2011 11:16 AM

METS ALL-TIME RUN LEADERS Through 5/25/2011 1. JOSE REYES 663 2. Darryl Strawberry 662 2. DAVID WRIGHT 662 Jose grabs this record and, uh, runs with it in the third at Wrigley.

Benjamin Grimm May 26 2011 03:55 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

That should be 663, 662, and 662.

Rockin' Doc May 26 2011 11:14 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Benjamin Grimm wrote: That should be 663, 662, and 662. Inflation.

G-Fafif May 26 2011 04:38 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 5/26/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. Cleon Jones 1,188 3. JOSE REYES 1,187 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

Frayed Knot May 27 2011 06:01 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Gary says 'Reyes takes over the all-time NYM runs scored record without anyone noticing'. Should have been reading here G.C., we've been tracking this for years.

G-Fafif May 27 2011 10:53 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 5/27/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,189 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182 Perhaps Jose can catch the Krane before July 31.

Ceetar May 28 2011 06:55 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

G-Fafif wrote: METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 5/27/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,189 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182 Perhaps Jose can catch the Krane before July 31.

batmagadanleadoff May 28 2011 09:34 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 28 2011 10:01 AM

Reyes' all time franchise run record is soft and reflects, more than anything else, the Mets historical failure to develop and keep long-term, offensive powerhouse players. Reyes' 660+ runs wouldn't top, or even come close, to matching the record holders in runs scored for any of the Mets' expansion contemporaries, or any of the four 1969 expansion teams: Angels - Garrett Anderson 1,024 Colt .45s/Astros - Craig Biggio 1,844 new Senators/Rangers - Rafael Palmeiro 958 Pilots/Brewers - Robin Yount 1,632 Royals - George Brett 1,583 Padres - Tony Gwynn 1,383 Expos/Nationals - Tim Raines 947

batmagadanleadoff May 28 2011 09:39 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

And you can add the 1977 expansion teams to that list: Blue Jays - Carlos Delgado 889 Mariners - Edgar Martinez 1,219

batmagadanleadoff May 28 2011 09:42 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

batmagadanleadoff wrote: And you can add the 1977 expansion teams to that list: Blue Jays - Carlos Delgado 889 Mariners - Edgar Martinez 1,219 And even the 1993 expansion teams: Rockies - Todd Helton 1,288 Marlins - Luis Castillo 675

batmagadanleadoff May 28 2011 09:45 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: And you can add the 1977 expansion teams to that list: Blue Jays - Carlos Delgado 889 Mariners - Edgar Martinez 1,219 And even the 1993 expansion teams: Rockies - Todd Helton 1,288 Marlins - Luis Castillo 675 Oh, ferchrissakes, this is getting to be ridiculous. The 1998 expansion teams' all-time runs scored leaders are: Diamondbacks - Luis Gonzalez 780 Devil Rays/Rays - Carl Crawford 765 Can't anybody here score any runs?

G-Fafif May 28 2011 10:37 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Can't anybody here score any runs? No. But at least Jose's ahead of Otto Velez's pace.

G-Fafif May 29 2011 04:57 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 5/28/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,191 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 10:43 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: And you can add the 1977 expansion teams to that list: Blue Jays - Carlos Delgado 889 Mariners - Edgar Martinez 1,219 And even the 1993 expansion teams: Rockies - Todd Helton 1,288 Marlins - Luis Castillo 675 Oh, ferchrissakes, this is getting to be ridiculous. The 1998 expansion teams' all-time runs scored leaders are: Diamondbacks - Luis Gonzalez 780 Devil Rays/Rays - Carl Crawford 765 Can't anybody here score any runs? Even ignoring all statistics pre-1962(*), the Mets franchise runs scored record is still the softest in all of MLB. Red Sox - Carl Yastrzemski 1,745* Reds - Pete Rose 1,741 Yankees - Derek Jeter 1,714 Orioles - Cal Ripken 1,647 Giants - Barry Bonds 1,555 Mil/Atl Braves - Chipper Jones 1,524 Phillies - Mike Schmidt 1,506 Cardinals - Lou Brock 1,427 Tigers - Lou Whitaker 1,386 White Sox - Frank Thomas 1,327 Cubs - Ryne Sandberg 1,316 KC/Oak A's - Rickey Henderson 1,270 Pirates - Willie Stargell 1,195 Twins - Kirby Puckett 1,071 Dodgers - Willie Davis 1,004 Indians - Kenny Lofton 975

Benjamin Grimm May 29 2011 10:46 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Okay then! Let's see if we can get a guy to reach the one-thousand-run mark. I nominate... Jose Reyes. Stick around Jose!

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 10:58 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Not counting pre-1962 stats(*), the Orioles have at least seven players who scored more runs than Jose Reyes: Orioles Cal Ripken 1,647 Eddie Murray 1,084 Brady Anderson 1,044 Brooks Robinson 991* Boog Powell 796 Brian Roberts 775 Al Bumbry 772 I say "at least", because my source (Baseball Reference) lists only the top 10 franchise record holders for the various statistics BR lists. So in theory, the 12th or 13th all time Oriole run scorer could also have surpassed Reyes' run totals. But we'll always have 1969.

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 01:47 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 29 2011 01:49 PM

With two more triples today, Jose Reyes increased his Mets career triples record to 91. Since 1962, only nine other players have hit more triples for one team than Jose Reyes -- one less player than before today's game. Today, Reyes passed Rod Carew (90 triples for the Twins) on that list. Who are "the nine"? 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Jose Reyes - Mets - 91 11. Rod Carew - Twins - 90

Frayed Knot May 29 2011 01:49 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Lou Brock

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 01:50 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Frayed Knot wrote: Lou Brock Yes. For extra credit, where do you think Brock is on that list?

Frayed Knot May 29 2011 01:53 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I'll go with 2nd place ... and then guess today's running disaster Jimmy Rollins, and for the hell of it put him 6th.

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 01:54 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

1. 2. 3. 4. Lou Brock - Cards - 121 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Jimmy Rollins - Phillies - 99 10. Jose Reyes - Mets - 91 11. Rod Carew - Twins - 90

Frayed Knot May 29 2011 01:55 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Carl Crawford - Tampa ummmm, 7th

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 01:58 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I wouldn't have gotten Crawford so quickly. 1. 2. 3. 4. Lou Brock - Cards - 121 5. 6. 7. Carl Crawford - Devil Rays/Rays - 105 8. 9. Jimmy Rollins - Phillies - 99 10. Jose Reyes - Mets - 91 11. Rod Carew - Twins - 90

Rockin' Doc May 29 2011 02:08 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Willie Mays could do it all, including hitting triples. In his long, Hall of Fame career with the Giants I'm feel pretty sure he hit enough triples to put him in the top three on the list.

Benjamin Grimm May 29 2011 02:10 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Wild stab here: Willie Wilson, Kansas City, 8th place.

Rockin' Doc May 29 2011 02:13 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 29 2011 02:21 PM

I'll go with another Hall of Fame great that had a long career with one team and say Ty Cobb. He did everything for the Tigers, but hit home runs. He just might be number one on this list.* *Upon edit: I missed the since 1962 part of the question. Ty won't quite qualify, but I'm still sure his triple totals would make most of the rest of this list pale by comparison. Even eliminating his early years (pre-1962) Wille Mays might still have a chance of making the list.

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 02:16 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

1. 2. Willie Wilson - Royals - 133 3. 4. Lou Brock - Cards - 121 5. 6. 7. Carl Crawford - Devil Rays/Rays - 105 8. 9. Jimmy Rollins - Phillies - 99 10. Jose Reyes - Mets - 91 11. Rod Carew - Twins - 90 I'm not considering statistics from before the Mets existence. So that would rule out Cobb and Mays and dozens of other players.

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 02:19 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

batmagadanleadoff wrote: 1. 2. Willie Wilson - Royals - 133 3. 4. Lou Brock - Cards - 121 5. 6. 7. Carl Crawford - Devil Rays/Rays - 105 8. 9. Jimmy Rollins - Phillies - 99 10. Jose Reyes - Mets - 91 11. Rod Carew - Twins - 90 I'm not considering statistics from before the Mets existence. So that would rule out Cobb and Mays and dozens of other players. Cobb is the Tigers career triples leader with 284. Cobb also hit 11 triples for the Phila. A's.

Rockin' Doc May 29 2011 02:31 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Okay, trying to get one that meets the post-1962 criteria. I'll go with Roberto Clemente of the Pittsburgh Pirates. he was racking them up in the late 60's right up until his untimely death.

Edgy MD May 29 2011 02:32 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Willie McGee, StL. Pete Rose, CIN. Davey Lopes, LAD. Joe Morgan, CIN. Rickey Henderson, OAK

sharpie May 29 2011 02:44 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Lance Johnson -- 6th

HahnSolo May 29 2011 03:05 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Lou Whitaker, Tigers.

G-Fafif May 29 2011 03:47 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 5/29/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,195 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

Rockin' Doc May 29 2011 04:18 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Keep guessing and maybe I can get one right. I'm pretty sure one of these two have to be the Brewers leaders for triples since 1962: Paul Molitor or Robin Yount.

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 04:46 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

1. 2. Willie Wilson - Royals - 133 3. Robin Yount - Brewers - 126 4. Lou Brock - Cards - 121 5. Pete Rose - Reds - 115 6. Roberto Clemente - Pirates - 108 7. Carl Crawford - Devil Rays/Rays - 105 8. 9. Jimmy Rollins - Phillies - 99 10. Jose Reyes - Mets - 91 11. Rod Carew - Twins - 90

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 05:02 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Rockin' Doc wrote: Okay, trying to get one that meets the post-1962 criteria. I'll go with Roberto Clemente of the Pittsburgh Pirates. he was racking them up in the late 60's right up until his untimely death. I saw Clemente triple in the first Mets game I ever attended. It was the only hit Gary Gentry allowed that day.

Frayed Knot May 29 2011 05:52 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Let's try Biggio/Houston in the 8th slot

Frayed Knot May 29 2011 05:58 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Frayed Knot wrote: Let's try Biggio/Houston in the 8th slot Just checked ... not correct. Would have thought he'd have more than just 55.

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 07:22 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Hints: The two remaining players batted lefty, exclusively. One player hit his triples for an AL team; the other for an NL team. One player has the same first name as one of the correctly guessed players. One player, just like Roberto Clemente, made this list even though some of his triples were hit prior to 1962, and thus disregarded. Both players are retired, were All-Stars, received MVP votes and were Gold Glove winners. Both players made the cover of Sports Illustrated (back when that magazine mattered). I'm withholding some other hints that would make the identification of one of these players very easy. I suppose that this is another hint.

Benjamin Grimm May 29 2011 08:36 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Willie McGee?

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 08:51 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Willie McGee? McGee hit 83 triples for the Cards, switch-hitted, never made the cover of SI, was already guessed by Edgy and stole Dwight Gooden's MVP award.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 29 2011 10:16 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Jose Cruz, Astros.

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2011 11:43 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I'll flip the rest of the cards over because I'm not gonna be around tomorrow. 1. George Brett - Royals - 137 2. Willie Wilson - Royals - 133 3. Robin Yount - Brewers - 126 4. Lou Brock - Cards - 121 5. Pete Rose - Reds - 115 6. Roberto Clemente - Pirates - 108 7. Carl Crawford - Devil Rays/Rays - 105 8. Willie Davis - Dodgers - 103 9. Jimmy Rollins - Phillies - 99 10. Jose Reyes - Mets - 91 11. Rod Carew - Twins - 90 And for your reading and viewing pleasure, here are your all-time HR leaders for each franchise, not including pre-1962 stats: 1. Barry Bonds - Giants - 586 (Willie Mays, 646 HR's, all-time franchise leader) 2. Mike Schmidt – Phillies - 548 3. Sammy Sosa – Cubs - 545 4. Hank Aaron - Braves - 480 (733 total Braves HR's) 5. Willie Stargell – Pirates - 475 6. Jeff Bagwell – Astros - 449 7. Frank Thomas - White Sox - 448 8. Carl Yastrzemski - Red Sox - 441 (452 total Red Sox HR's; Ted Williams, 521 HR's, all-time franchise leader) 9. Cal Ripken - Orioles - 431 10. Harmon Killebrew - Twins - 429 (559 total Senators/Twins HR's) 11. Ken Griffey, Jr. – Mariners - 417 12. Albert Pujols – Cards - 416 (All-time franchise leader, Stan Musial, 475 HR's) 13. Johnny Bench - Reds - 389 14. Juan Gonzalez – Rangers - 372 15. Mark McGwire – A’s - 363 16. Todd Helton – Rockies - 339 17. Carlos Delgado – Blue Jays - 336 18. Jim Thome – Indians - 334 19. George Brett – Royals - 317 20. Norm Cash – Tigers - 314 (373 total Tigers HR's; Al Kaline, 399 HR's, all-time franchise leader) 21. Tim Salmon - Angels - 299 22. Bernie Williams – Yankees - 287 (Babe Ruth, 659, yada, yada, yada) 23. Eric Karros – Dodgers - 270 (Duke Snider, 389 HR's, all-time franchise leader) 24. Darryl Strawberry - Mets - 252 25. Robin Yount – Brewers - 251 26. Vladimir Guerrero – Expos/Nationals - 234 27. Luis Gonzalez – Diamondbacks - 224 28. Nate Colbert – Padres - 163 29. Dan Uggla – Marlins - 154 30. Carlos Pena – Devil Rays/Rays - 144

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 30 2011 08:00 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Looked up to see by how much I missed Jose Cruz by (not a whole lot) and was revolted to see where he ended his career with the MFYs.

Frayed Knot May 30 2011 09:19 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Brett was a logical answer. Great hitter, long career in one place, plus Kaufman/Ewing Stadium was a great doubles/triples/inside-park HR spot (astroturf and funky corners).

batmagadanleadoff May 30 2011 03:21 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Here are your franchise hits leaders, not including pre-1962 stats. Four of the top seven players on this list accumulated 3,000+ hits for an expansion team. 1. Pete Rose – Reds – 3,358 2. Carl Yastrzemski – Red Sox – 3,264 (3,419 total Red Sox hits) 3. Cal Ripken, Jr. – Orioles – 3,184 4. George Brett – Royals – 3,154 5. Robin Yount – Brewers – 3,142 6. Tony Gwynn – Padres – 3,141 7. Craig Biggio – Astros – 3,060 8. Derek Jeter – Yankees – 2,980 9. Lou Brock – Cardinals – 2,713 (Brock 2nd all-time Cards hit ldr., Musial – 3,630 hits #1) 10. Chipper Jones – Braves – 2,536 (Jones 2nd all-time Braves hit ldr.,Aaron - 3,600 hits #1) 11. Ryne Sandberg – Cubs – 2,384 (Sandberg 4th all time Cubs hit ldr., Anson/Banks/Williams) 12. Lou Whitaker – Tigers – 2,369 (Whitaker 6th all time Tigers hit ldr., Cobb – 3,900 hits #1) 13. Garret Anderson – Angels – 2,368 14. Kirby Puckett – Twins – 2,304 (Puckett 2d all-time Senators/Twins hits; Sam Rice 2,889 hits #1) 15. Ichiro Suzuki – Mariners – 2,303 16. Todd Helton – Rockies – 2,280 17. Mike Schmidt – Phillies – 2,234 18. Willie Stargell - Pirates – 2,232 (Stargell, 7th all time Pirates hit ldr., Clemente – 3,000 hits #1) 19. Frank Thomas – White Sox – 2,136 (Thomas 3rd all time Sox hit ldr., Appling/Fox) 20. Willie Davis – Dodgers – 1,977 (2,091 total Dodger hits; 3rd all time; Zack Wheat 2,804 hits #1) 21. Barry Bonds – Giants – 1,951(Bonds, 5th all time Giants hit ldr., Mays – 3,187 hits #1) 22. Michael Young – Rangers – 1,915 23. Bert Campaneris – A’s – 1,882 24. Tim Wallach – Expos/Nationals – 1,694 25. Omar Vizquel – Indians – 1,616 (Vizquel, 7th all time Indians hit ldr., Lajoie – 2,046 hits #1) 26. Tony Fernandez – Blue Jays – 1,583 27. Carl Crawford – Devil Rays/Rays – 1,480 28. Ed Kranepool – Mets - 1,418 29. Luis Gonzalez – Diamondbacks – 1,337 30. Luis Castillo – Marlins – 1,273

Edgy MD May 30 2011 05:07 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Ichiro, by the way, pretty bad this year, tied up for one more season, and making more dough than Jason Bay.

batmagadanleadoff May 31 2011 08:53 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 31 2011 08:57 AM

The franchise leaders for strikeouts, not including pre-1962 stats: Nolan Ryan and Randy Johnson are the franchise leaders for two teams, each. Including pre-1962 numbers, Seaver's all-time team total would rank 9th (Feller and Johnson would leapfrog Seaver) - still not too shabby. 1. Steve Carlton – Phillies – 3,031 2. John Smoltz – Braves – 3,011 3. Bob Gibson – Cardinals – 2,834 (3,117 total Cards K’s) 4. Don Sutton – Dodgers – 2,696 5. Mickey Lolich – Tigers – 2,679 6. Roger Clemens – Red Sox – 2,590 7. Tom Seaver – Mets – 2,541 8. Nolan Ryan – Angels – 2,416 9. Jim Palmer – Orioles – 2,212 10. Randy Johnson – Mariners – 2,162 11. Sam McDowell – Indians – 2,154 (2,159 total Indians K’s; 2nd all-time; Bob Feller, 2,581 K’s #1) 12. Juan Marichal – Giants – 2,099 (2,281 total Giants K’s; 2nd all-time; Christy Mathewson, 2,504 K’s #1) 13. Randy Johnson – Diamondbacks – 2,077 14. Fergie Jenkins – Cubs – 2,038 15. Bert Blyleven – Twins – 2,035 (2nd all time; Walter Johnson, 3,509 K’s #1) 16. Nolan Ryan – Astros – 1,866 17. Andy Pettitte – Yankees – 1,823 (2nd all time; Whitey Ford, 1,956 K’s #1) 18. Dave Stieb – Blue Jays – 1,658 19. Bob Veale – Pirates – 1,652 (2nd all-time; Bob Friend, 1,682 K’s #1) 20. Steve Rogers – Expos/Nationals – 1,621 21. Catfish Hunter – A’s – 1,520 (5th all-time; Eddie Plank, 1,985 K’s #1) 22. Jim Maloney – Reds – 1,487 (1,592 total Reds K’s) 23. Kevin Appier – Royals – 1,458 24. Charlie Hough – Rangers – 1,452 25. Jake Peavy – Padres – 1,348 26. Wilbur Wood – White Sox – 1,325 (1,332 total White Sox K’s; 4th all-time; Billy Pierce, 1,796 K’s #1) 27. Ben Sheets – Brewers - 1,206 28. James Shields – Devil Rays/Rays - 883 29. Dontrelle Willis – Marlins - 757 30. Pedro Astacio – Rockies - 749

Edgy MD May 31 2011 08:57 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Funny to see Sheets atop the Brewers list. The Brews have had a lot of good pitchers who just couldn't last: Caldwell, Higuera, and D'Amico come to mind. Vuckovich too, I guess.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 01 2011 10:22 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

The all-time RBI leaders for each franchise, not including statistics prior to 1962. (To even the playing field for the Mets). 1. Carl Yastrzemski – Red Sox – 1,764 (1,844 total Sox RBI’s, Ted Williams #2 all-time Sox – 1,839 RBI’s) 2. Cal Ripken, Jr. – Orioles – 1,695 3. George Brett – Royals – 1,596 4. Mike Schmidt – Phillies – 1,595 5. Willie Stargell – Pirates – 1,540 6. Jeff Bagwell – Astros – 1,529 7. Chipper Jones – Braves – 1,522 (2d all-time; Hank Aaron, 2,202 RBI’s #1) 8. Frank Thomas – White Sox – 1,465 9. Barry Bonds – Giants – 1,440 (4th all-time; Mel Ott, 1,860 RBI’s #1) 10. Sammy Sosa – Cubs – 1,414 (3rd all-time; Cap Anson, 1,880 RBI’s #1) 11. Robin Yount – Brewers – 1,406 12. Johnny Bench – Reds – 1,376 13. Garret Anderson – Angels – 1,292 14t. Albert Pujols – Cardinals – 1,261 (2d all-time; Stan Musial, 1,951 RBI’s #1) 14t. Edgar Martinez – Mariners – 1,261 14t. Todd Helton – Rockies - 1,261 17. Bernie Williams – Yankees – 1,257 (6th all-time; Derek Jeter, 1,151 RBI’s, 9th place; Lou Gehrig, 1,995 RBI’s #1) 18. Harmon Killebrew – Twins – 1,203 (1,540 total Senators/Twins RBI’s) 19. Juan Gonzalez – Rangers – 1,180 20. Tony Gwynn – Padres – 1,138 21. Lou Whitaker – Tigers 1,084 (8th all-time; Ty Cobb, 1,805 RBI’s #1) 22. Carlos Delgado – Blue Jays – 1,058 23. Steve Garvey – Dodgers – 992 (5th all-time; Duke Snider, 1,271 RBI’s #1) 24. Mark McGwire – A’s – 941 (4th all-time; Al Simmons, 1,178 RBI’s #1) 25. Jim Thome – Indians – 927 (2d all time; Earl Averill 1,084 RBI’s #1) 26. Tim Wallach – Expos/Nationals - 793 27. Luis Gonzalez – Diamondbacks - 774 28. Darryl Strawberry – Mets – 733 (David Wright 2d, 682 RBI’s) 29. Carl Crawford – Devil Rays/Rays - 592 30. Mike Lowell – Marlins – 578

G-Fafif Jun 02 2011 06:12 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/2/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,196 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 04 2011 05:06 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/3/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,198 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

batmagadanleadoff Jun 04 2011 09:12 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Baseball Reference lists the top 10 career leaders for each franchise in OPS+ (OPS adjusted for league, year and park effects), 1500 PA's min. I compiled a list of each franchise's all-time leader, again, not including stats from prior to 1962. However, lacking the formula for OPS+, I was unable to calculate the post-1961 OPS+ for any player whose career encompassed both the pre and post expansion era, and so my leaders list consists solely of players whose careers began no earlier than 1962. There were only two instances when the OPS+ franchise leader was a player whose career straddled both eras: Hank Aaron (Braves) and Harmon Killebrew (Senators/Twins). I'll post the list later on, but first some trivia. Among players whose careers began no earlier than 1962, five players are the career OPS+ leaders (1,500 PA, min.) for two different franchises. Five! Who are they?

Benjamin Grimm Jun 04 2011 09:18 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Frank Robinson? Pete Rose? Carlton Fisk?

Benjamin Grimm Jun 04 2011 09:19 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

(I just realized that Robinson and Rose can't both be correct.)

batmagadanleadoff Jun 04 2011 09:21 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Frank Robinson? Pete Rose? Carlton Fisk? All wrong answers. But Robinson was very close. He's the Orioles all-time OPS+ leader and very close to the Reds all-time OPS+ leader. BTW, even without knowing the numbers, Rose and Robinson have to be mutually exclusive guesses, right?

batmagadanleadoff Jun 04 2011 09:21 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Benjamin Grimm wrote: (I just realized that Robinson and Rose can't both be correct.) Right back atcha.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 04 2011 09:36 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Also, Frank Robinson's Reds career covered both the pre and post expansion era. The answers to my trivia question are limited to post-1961 players.

HahnSolo Jun 04 2011 08:34 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

A-Rod?

HahnSolo Jun 04 2011 08:38 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

McGwire Albert Belle Miguel Cabrera

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 04 2011 08:58 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

McGwire McGriff Bonds A-Roid Thome

G-Fafif Jun 04 2011 10:33 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/4/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,199 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

batmagadanleadoff Jun 05 2011 08:07 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

HahnSolo wrote: A-Rod? No-Rod

batmagadanleadoff Jun 05 2011 08:09 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

HahnSolo wrote: McGwire Albert Belle Miguel Cabrera McGwire is the all-time OPS+ leader for the A's and the Cards. 1. McGwire (HahnSolo)

batmagadanleadoff Jun 05 2011 08:10 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: McGwire McGriff Bonds A-Roid Thome 1. McGwire - A's & Cards (HahnSolo) 2. McGriff - Padres & Blue Jays (JCL)

batmagadanleadoff Jun 05 2011 09:12 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I'll flip over the answers soon. So howcum nobody guessed Mike Piazza?

Vince Coleman Firecracker Jun 05 2011 10:55 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

batmagadanleadoff Jun 05 2011 01:03 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

... and a rare, Kineresque appearance by the Firecracker to add Ramirez to the list. 1. Mark McGwire - A's & Cards (HahnSolo) 2. Fred McGriff - Padres & Blue Jays (JCL) 3. Manny Ramirez - Indians & Red Sox (VCF) (tied with Thome for Indians record among post-1961 players; Shoeless Joe Jackson, all-time Indians OPS+ leader); (all-time Sox OPS+ leader, Ted Williams) One trick to this trivia question was to focus on the min. 1500 PA requirement -- roughly three seasons worth of game-time. OPS+ is a rate stat, and therefore, we weren't necessarily looking for players like Yaz or Stargell, who had to play for the same team for about two decades to accumulate their counting stat franchise records. The other two twofers are: Vladimir Guerrero - Angels & Expos (tied for Rusty Staub for all time Expos/Nats OPS+ career leader) & Gary Sheffield - Dodgers & Marlins. Here's the entire list: Adj OPS+ (min. 1,500PA, among players who debuted no earlier than 1962) 1. Barry Bonds – Giants – 199 2. Mark McGwire – Cardinals - 180 3. Frank Robinson – Orioles – 169 4. Frank Thomas – White Sox – 161 (Shoeless Joe, 2d all-time, 159 OPS+) 5. Gary Sheffield – Dodgers – 160 (Mike Piazza, 2d all-time, 159 OPS+) 6. Brian Giles – Pirates – 158 (Ralph Kiner, 2d all-time, 157 OPS+; Honus Wagner, 3d all-time, 154 OPS+) 7. Gary Sheffield – Marlins – 156 8t. Mark McGwire – A’s – 155 (3d all-time; Jimmie Foxx, 174 OPS+ #1) 8t. Manny Ramirez – Red Sox – 155 (4th all-time, Ted Williams 190 OPS+ #1) 8t. Alex Rodriguez – Rangers - 155 11t. Richie Allen – Phillies – 153 (2d all-time; Elmer Flick, 156 OPS+ #1) 11t. Joey Votto – Reds – 153 11t. Miguel Cabrera – Tigers – 153 (3d all-time; Ty Cobb, 171 OPS+ #1) 11t. Fred McGriff – Blue Jays - 153 15. Manny Ramirez/Jim Thome – Indians 152 (4th all-time, Shoeless Joe, 182 #1) 16t. Jeff Bagwell – Astros – 149 16t. Fred McGriff – Padres - 149 18t. Reggie Jackson – Yankees – 148 (6th all-time; Babe Ruth, 209 OPS+ #1) 18t. Vladimir Guerrero/Rusty Staub – Expos/Nationals 148 20t. Edgar Martinez – Mariners - 147 20t. Larry Walker – Rockies – 147 22. Darryl Strawberry – Mets – 145 (John Olerud, 2d all-time 142 OPS+) 23. Rod Carew – Twins – 137 (Harmon Killebrew, 1st all-time, 145 OPS+) 24. Danny Tartabull – Royals - 144 25. Rico Carty – Braves – 143 (3d all-time; Hank Aaron, 158 OPS+ #1) 26t. Vladimir Guerrero – Angels – 141 26t. Ryan Braun – Brewers – 141 (Prince Fielder, 2d all-time, 140 OPS+) 28. Bill Madlock/Sammy Sosa – Cubs – 139 (5th all-time; Hack Wilson, 155 OPS+ #1) 29. Carlos Pena – 135 – Devil Rays/Rays 30. Luis Gonzalez – Diamondbacks – 130

G-Fafif Jun 05 2011 10:58 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/5/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,201 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182 ROUND NUMBER MILESTONE ALERT Jose Reyes, just shy of his 28th birthday, collected his 1,200th hit, a single, on June 5, 2011, in the first inning, off Tim Hudson of the Braves. It was the 4,515th plate appearance of his career. The Mets won, 6-4. Ed Kranepool, not quite 31 years and 7 months old, collected his 1,200th hit, a single, on May 20, 1976, in the fourth inning, off Jim Lonborg of the Phillies. It was the 5,103rd plate appearance of his career. The Mets lost, 5-3.

HahnSolo Jun 06 2011 06:32 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I can't imagine how many guesses I would have needed to get Brian Giles for the Pirates.

seawolf17 Jun 06 2011 06:55 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

HahnSolo wrote: I can't imagine how many guesses I would have needed to get Brian Giles for the Pirates. Giles I might have gotten eventually. It's Rico Carty that I never would have guessed.

G-Fafif Jun 08 2011 07:15 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/7/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,203 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

Ceetar Jun 08 2011 07:20 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

G-Fafif wrote: METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/7/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,203 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182 The game notes for Mets games still say David Wright needs 6 hits to tie Cleon for second all-time. they should fix that.

G-Fafif Jun 09 2011 03:29 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/8/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,205 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 11 2011 01:59 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/10/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,208 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 11 2011 10:12 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/11/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,210 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

Ceetar Jun 12 2011 08:12 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

David, you're lagging behind. Get Well Soon.

G-Fafif Jun 12 2011 05:07 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/12/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,213 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 15 2011 02:24 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/14/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,216 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 16 2011 05:24 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/15/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,217 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 16 2011 10:02 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Fewer than 200 away... METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/16/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,220 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 19 2011 07:08 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/18/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,221 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 19 2011 03:43 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/19/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,222 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 23 2011 12:11 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/22/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,224 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 23 2011 05:22 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/23/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,226 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

seawolf17 Jun 23 2011 08:00 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I think Jose's trying to catch Krane before the year is out.

Ceetar Jun 23 2011 08:03 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

seawolf17 wrote: I think Jose's trying to catch Krane before the year is out. on pace for 227. which would only tie the Franchise record.

G-Fafif Jun 23 2011 08:57 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Lance Johnson's September 1996 had the kind of finishing kick worthy of his nickname: 45 hits, including 10 doubles and 4 triples. If Reyes wants to catch the One Dog, he'd better be close to 200 by the dawn of September (if he's still here). John Olerud had 45 hits in August 1998. Jose had 40 in May 2011.

Ceetar Jun 23 2011 08:59 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Lance and Jose are the only two Mets to ever lead the league in hits. while Mets anyway. I smell a trivia coming on..

G-Fafif Jun 25 2011 05:27 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/25/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,228 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182 T-288. LUCAS DUDA 30 Duda tied with Bobby Ojeda and Ronny Paulino

G-Fafif Jun 26 2011 07:16 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/26/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,232 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182 Jose leads David by 50 hits. He trailed him when David went on the DL.

G-Fafif Jun 28 2011 09:04 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/28/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,236 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

Ceetar Jun 29 2011 09:01 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

]METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/29/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,238 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jun 30 2011 04:50 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 6/30/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,240 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

Benjamin Grimm Jun 30 2011 04:54 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

And the hits just keep on coming!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 30 2011 05:00 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

He'll pass 'Pool this year, if he starts running out some infield hits like he's s'posed ta.

G-Fafif Jul 02 2011 02:42 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/1/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,242 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

Edgy MD Jul 02 2011 03:52 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: He'll pass 'Pool this year, if he starts running out some infield hits like he's s'posed ta. Haunting.

G-Fafif Jul 02 2011 06:23 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/2/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,243 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182 Much more updating to be done, hopefully very soon.

Ceetar Jul 19 2011 08:06 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/19/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,245 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jul 21 2011 01:15 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/21/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,246 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,182

G-Fafif Jul 21 2011 04:01 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

No offense, Cleon, but I look forward to lopping you off this tracker very soon.

G-Fafif Jul 22 2011 11:08 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/22/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,248 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,184

G-Fafif Jul 23 2011 09:37 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/23/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,251 3. Cleon Jones 1,188 4. DAVID WRIGHT 1,185

G-Fafif Jul 24 2011 04:29 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/24/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,253 T-3. Cleon Jones 1,188 T-3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,188 Our Top Three now contains four.

Edgy MD Jul 24 2011 05:49 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

'Mazin. According to Bill James' calculations, Reyes has a 16% chance at 3,000 hits. Wright has a 23% chance. I may need to some re-calculating based on the partial season, however.

G-Fafif Jul 25 2011 11:30 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/25/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,254 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,190 Live long and prosper, Cleon, but the Top Three are now these three.

G-Fafif Jul 26 2011 06:40 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Mets media notes today said Wright passed Cleon for second place last night. Howie read it as if it were fact. Later turned on the TV and heard Gary said he "misspoke" when he read the same thing and corrected the order to Kranepool, Reyes, Wright (though Keith immediately sold out the PR department for having it wrong in the first place). Obviously not enough Metsian big shots tracking Jose vs. David vs. the Krane.

Frayed Knot Jul 26 2011 06:43 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Why don't they make it easy on themselves and just read the CPF more often?

G-Fafif Jul 26 2011 06:49 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Frayed Knot wrote: Why don't they make it easy on themselves and just read the CPF more often? I know! It's all right here...

G-Fafif Jul 26 2011 11:03 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/26/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,254 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,192

Gwreck Jul 27 2011 08:20 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Looks like about one year from now that Jose will be passing Kranepool.

Ceetar Jul 27 2011 09:08 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

G-Fafif wrote: Mets media notes today said Wright passed Cleon for second place last night. Howie read it as if it were fact. Later turned on the TV and heard Gary said he "misspoke" when he read the same thing and corrected the order to Kranepool, Reyes, Wright (though Keith immediately sold out the PR department for having it wrong in the first place). Obviously not enough Metsian big shots tracking Jose vs. David vs. the Krane. Not for nothing, but I noted that error months ago (it's been listed as Wright needing X hits to reach 2nd for a while) Especially on the radio when they're trying to shove things into between pitches, even the best often just read it without processing what they're reading. It's up to the color guy to analyze it. (good job Keith, bad job Wayne?)

Edgy MD Jul 27 2011 09:25 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Gwreck wrote: Looks like about one year from now that Jose will be passing Kranepool. Seven-Up

G-Fafif Jul 27 2011 03:11 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

12. Keith Hernandez 939 13. CARLOS BELTRAN 878 14. Lee Mazzilli 796

G-Fafif Jul 27 2011 10:17 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/27/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,256 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,194

G-Fafif Jul 29 2011 05:27 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/28/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,256 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,197

G-Fafif Jul 29 2011 10:40 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 30 2011 09:48 PM

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/29/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,257 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,199

Edgy MD Jul 30 2011 08:20 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Kranepool needs to make an adjustment or two. He's been stuck on that number a while now, hasn't he?

soupcan Jul 30 2011 11:21 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Edgy DC wrote: Kranepool needs to make an adjustment or two. He's been stuck on that number a while now, hasn't he? Later.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2011 02:04 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

That stings.

G-Fafif Jul 30 2011 09:49 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/30/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,257 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,201 Welcome to Club 1,200, David. D-Wright's picked up eight hits on Jose since returning.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2011 10:54 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Reyes needs a day off.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 31 2011 06:42 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

G-Fafif wrote: Welcome to Club 1,200, David. D-Wright's picked up eight hits on Jose since returning. Well, yeah, a 7-game multi-hit-streak will do that.

G-Fafif Jul 31 2011 04:38 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 7/31/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,259 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,202

G-Fafif Aug 01 2011 11:09 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/1/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,260 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,202

G-Fafif Aug 02 2011 10:52 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/2/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,261 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,202

G-Fafif Aug 05 2011 11:26 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/5/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,261 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,204

Ashie62 Aug 06 2011 10:10 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

This order won't change this season, alot of work for no change.

G-Fafif Aug 07 2011 12:37 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Ashie62 wrote: This order won't change this season, alot of work for no change. It changed plenty since May. This is a beautiful process to watch unfold.

G-Fafif Aug 07 2011 12:38 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/6/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,205

G-Fafif Aug 09 2011 01:20 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/8/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,207

G-Fafif Aug 09 2011 11:16 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/9/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,208

G-Fafif Aug 11 2011 03:29 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/10/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,209 And David ties Ed for all-time lead in total bases with 2,047. Rest of Top 10: 3. Darryl Strawberry 2,028 4. JOSE REYES 1,915 5. Mike Piazza 1,815 6. Howard Johnson 1,823 7. Edgardo Alfonzo 1,736 8. Cleon Jones 1,715 9. Mookie Wilson 1,586 10. Carlos Beltran 1,567

Ashie62 Aug 11 2011 06:28 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

It always amazes me how Fast Eddie has hung on the hits title for so long with what is not a terribly high number. Got to love the Krane.

G-Fafif Aug 11 2011 01:59 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/11/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,210 And David passes Ed for all-time lead in total bases with 2,048.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 11 2011 02:02 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

He also, we should note, recently got his 700th RBI, the second Met to do so. (Darryl Strawberry has 733.)

G-Fafif Aug 15 2011 01:10 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/14/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,211

G-Fafif Aug 16 2011 12:03 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/15/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,212

G-Fafif Aug 17 2011 04:42 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/16/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,213

G-Fafif Aug 18 2011 12:08 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/17/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,214

G-Fafif Aug 21 2011 02:23 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/21/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,215

G-Fafif Aug 22 2011 07:54 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/22/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,216

G-Fafif Aug 24 2011 04:37 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/24/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,219 David within 200 of breaking the record.

G-Fafif Aug 29 2011 05:44 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/29/2011 (Game One) 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,263 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,220 And now it's a race again. Except for Eddie.

G-Fafif Aug 29 2011 08:32 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/29/2011 (Game Two) 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,264 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,222

G-Fafif Aug 31 2011 04:40 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/30/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,265 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,224

G-Fafif Aug 31 2011 11:59 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 8/31/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,267 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,226

G-Fafif Sep 02 2011 04:19 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/1/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,268 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,227 Jose pulls to within 150 of Ed.

G-Fafif Sep 03 2011 03:49 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/2/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,269 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,229

G-Fafif Sep 03 2011 10:38 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/3/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,270 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,230

G-Fafif Sep 04 2011 06:13 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/4/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,270 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,232

G-Fafif Sep 04 2011 06:15 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/5/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,271 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,233

G-Fafif Sep 07 2011 04:45 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/6/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,274 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,233

Ceetar Sep 07 2011 07:43 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Wright's about to cross into the "definitely barring injury" category for passing Kranepool next year. I'm hoping Wright's never the franchise leader in hits, even when he's eclipsed 2500.

G-Fafif Sep 07 2011 08:50 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/7/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,275 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,233

G-Fafif Sep 09 2011 05:42 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/8/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,277 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,234

G-Fafif Sep 09 2011 10:50 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/9/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,278 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,235

G-Fafif Sep 10 2011 11:04 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/10/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,279 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,237

G-Fafif Sep 12 2011 04:25 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/11/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,280 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,237

G-Fafif Sep 13 2011 03:28 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/12/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,280 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,238

G-Fafif Sep 14 2011 04:48 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/13/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,283 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,238

G-Fafif Sep 15 2011 01:55 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/14/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,284 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,238

G-Fafif Sep 16 2011 04:49 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/15/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,284 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,239

G-Fafif Sep 17 2011 08:26 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/16/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,287 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,242

G-Fafif Sep 18 2011 04:21 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/18/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,287 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,243

G-Fafif Sep 21 2011 06:12 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/20/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,288 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,243

Benjamin Grimm Sep 21 2011 07:28 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Jose now 100 hits ahead of Cleon.

Ceetar Sep 21 2011 07:34 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

David seems safely in "Will pass Krane for second place all-time next year" territory.

Edgy MD Sep 21 2011 07:47 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

There's nothing safe about it, I think.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 21 2011 07:52 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Yeah, 176 hits in a season is by no means a sure thing.

Ceetar Sep 21 2011 08:29 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yeah, 176 hits in a season is by no means a sure thing. well, i'm not going to start projecting injuries on him. If he starts 150 games next year, it's a pretty safe bet he'll get 176 hits in 158ish games.

G-Fafif Sep 21 2011 08:35 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Here's hoping it's second place for David, at least next year. If he wants to catch and pass Jose at some later date, that's up to him.

dgwphotography Sep 21 2011 10:48 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

There's always the wet dream scenario, where Jose gets his 3,000th, and then two batters later, David get his 3,000th with a homer that drives him in....

metirish Sep 21 2011 11:11 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

From 2005 through 2010 Wright played no fewer than 154 in a season and no more than 160, in those six seasons he hit 176 and better four times , he dipped to 164 in 2009 but played in only 144 games.His most hits in a season came in 2007 with 196 hits in 160 games. Wright can do it. http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... da03.shtml

Benjamin Grimm Sep 21 2011 11:29 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Of course he can do it, the point is that it's not at all a sure thing. Ceetar used the word "safe".

metirish Sep 21 2011 11:35 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Yes of course, wasn't implying that it was a sure thing. I mean , the Mets could win the WS next year, just don't bet on it.

Ceetar Sep 21 2011 12:11 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Of course he can do it, the point is that it's not at all a sure thing. Ceetar used the word "safe". well yeah.. metirish wrote: Yes of course, wasn't implying that it was a sure thing. I mean , the Mets could win the WS next year, just don't bet on it. a 'safe bet' is what I meant. I'd say the odds are in favor of it happening. but then, I'm going to bet on the Mets to win the World Series too. But my logic there is a $5 investment pays for my Jose Reyes WS Jersey.

attgig Sep 21 2011 12:24 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

metirish wrote: Yes of course, wasn't implying that it was a sure thing. I mean , the Mets could win the WS next year, just don't bet on it. well, the odds may be so bad, that it may be worth 10 bucks.... you know... just in case.

G-Fafif Sep 22 2011 05:57 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/21/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,289 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,244

G-Fafif Sep 22 2011 05:52 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/22/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,290 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,244

G-Fafif Sep 25 2011 05:34 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/24/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,291 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,245

G-Fafif Sep 25 2011 07:32 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/25/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,293 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,245

G-Fafif Sep 26 2011 10:53 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/26/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,296 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,246

G-Fafif Sep 28 2011 04:26 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 9/27/2011 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,299 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,247

SteveJRogers Sep 28 2011 06:26 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Be apropos of this franchise if Reyes went hitless today.

G-Fafif Sep 28 2011 06:31 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

SteveJRogers wrote: Be apropos of this franchise if Reyes went hitless today. Or just one of those things that happens.

Edgy MD Sep 28 2011 07:19 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Yeah, c'mon Steve. Get a grip.

G-Fafif Sep 28 2011 04:11 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 2011 Season 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,300 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,248 I hope there are more round numbers in Jose's future...of this kind, I mean.

SteveJRogers Sep 28 2011 05:38 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

G-Fafif wrote: METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 2011 Season 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,300 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,248 I hope there are more round numbers in Jose's future...of this kind, I mean. You mean take away the one and put another 0? ;)

Edgy MD Sep 28 2011 06:26 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Current likelihood of 3000 hits: Jose Reyes: 0% David Wright: 11%

Benjamin Grimm Sep 29 2011 06:53 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Especially if he keeps leaving the game in the first inning.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2011 07:25 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

That's according to the Bill James Career Assessments tool. I question it's applicability, but it seems useful. It seems like one injury marred year can do tremendous damage to career projections, but I guess they can do tremendous damage to careers. Alex Rodriguez is currently at 97%. Chipper Jones is at zero. Seems kind of shortsighted to me. (Intuitively, I'd place it at 90% and 20%.) Moreover, if Luis Castillo is 36 and getting only 120 hits per year, you know he's not long for the game, or at least for anybody's starting lineup. But if Jim Thome is getting 120 hits per year, he'll still be able to hang around, because his power keeps him in the game. But that's not a factor.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 06 2011 08:16 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

METS ALL-TIME HIT LEADERS Through 2011 Season 1. Ed Kranepool 1,418 2. JOSE REYES 1,300 3. DAVID WRIGHT 1,248 I hope there are more round numbers in Jose's future...of this kind, I mean. I'm beginning to wonder if Krane's record will ever be broken in my lifetime. excerpt: Mets willing to trade Wright: source Word continues to circulate in baseball circles that the Mets will be willing to discuss David Wright in trades this offseason as part of a complete facelift/rebuild away from Wright and Jose Reyes. “We will listen on Wright for sure,” a Mets official told me during the week. “We know we are not going to win it all in 2012. We have to hope the Phillies get old and we are in position to take advantage of that in 2013-14, and we have to figure out ways to speed the process to get there.” In other words, if the Mets could find the young, defensive-oriented center fielder they crave plus an arm or two in exchange for Wright, they will seriously consider it. The team the Mets are focusing upon the most is the Angels, who they know have had interest in Wright previously and, in Mike Trout and Peter Bourjos, have two young center fielders. The Angels will not move Trout, who made his major league debut at 19 last year and is seen as a five-tool cornerstone to their future. But Bourjos is a possibility. Two different talent evaluators told me they thought Bourjos was one of the three best defensive center fielders in the majors last year. Bourjos, who turns 25 in March, also hit .271 with 12 homers and 22 steals. If the Mets are able to get Bourjos and one or two arms from a group that includes Tyler Chatwood, Garrett Richards and John Hellweg, it could be enticing because there also would be a significant amount of saved money for 2012 — take your pick if that ends up in ownerships’ pockets or reinvested in payroll. Dealing a popular established player such as Wright for relative unknowns would be a hard sell to an already embittered Mets fans base — especially if it coincides with losing Reyes this offseason, as well. However, officials who have worked with Mets general manager Sandy Alderson depict a leader unafraid to make unpopular decisions if he believes it will be in the long-term good of the team. It is clear that Alderson is trying to accumulate as much high-level, cost-certain talent as possible to build around as a way to gain both long-term financial flexibility and the ability to make trades from a storehouse of strength. * Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/sou ... z1cwFbcozJ

seawolf17 Nov 06 2011 03:01 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

"We don't have many fans left," the official added. "We're hoping that this, in combination with $29.99 BOURJOS 25 t-shirts prominently featured in the team store, might finally push away the last of them."

G-Fafif Nov 06 2011 07:07 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if Krane's record will ever be broken in my lifetime. It is becoming abundantly clear that Ed Kranepool pulls the strings of history.

Edgy MD Nov 06 2011 07:33 PM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

That comment lends new weight to the picture of him and Roberto Clemente.

G-Fafif Nov 07 2011 06:08 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Edgy DC wrote: That comment lends new weight to the picture of him and Roberto Clemente. To say nothing of the one of him with Stalin and Churchill at Potsdam.

metirish Nov 07 2011 06:32 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

Mets willing to trade Wright: source . “We know we are not going to win it all in 2012. * Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/sou ... z1cwFbcozJ

We're not?, at least he didn't say "We know we are not going to win at all".

metirish Nov 07 2011 06:33 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

seawolf17 wrote: "We don't have many fans left," the official added. "We're hoping that this, in combination with $29.99 BOURJOS 25 t-shirts prominently featured in the team store, might finally push away the last of them." a good laugh to start the week.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 07 2011 08:08 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

G-Fafif wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if Krane's record will ever be broken in my lifetime. It is becoming abundantly clear that Ed Kranepool pulls the strings of history. Pool deh streeng, Edd-dee. [youtube]yNiVpnVcxiM[/youtube]

batmagadanleadoff Dec 05 2011 10:27 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

December 5, 2011, 10:48 am Keeping Score: Bad Day for Mets, Good Day for Kranepool By KEN BELSON As the Mets get dressed up for their 50th anniversary season, it is worth noting that they have never had a standout position player who stuck around long enough to produce big career statistics for the team. The departure of shortstop Jose Reyes, who is set to join the Miami Marlins as a free agent, continues this trend. The best everyday players in Mets history — Keith Hernandez and Mike Piazza — each arrived in Queens from somewhere else, had five solid seasons before starting to fade, and ended up finishing their careers in another city. John Olerud hit a robust .315 as a Met but spent just three years in Flushing. Cleon Jones was a homegrown talent who came close to winning the batting title in 1969 but never neared that promise again. Darryl Strawberry was pegged as the next Ted Williams, but he never really lived up to his billing, was gone after eight seasons, and then had a championship encore as a Yankee. This shortcoming, the inability to produce an impressive player who stuck around for his entire career and left a heavy statistical imprint, is all the more glaring because the Mets share the city with the Yankees, who can point to Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, Don Mattingly, Derek Jeter, who got his 3,000th hit last summer, and others. The Mets, in contrast, have Ed Kranepool, whose total of 1,418 hits with the Mets over 18 seasons, some of them part time, is still the team record, meager as it may be. Reyes, 28, will stay stuck in second with 1,300 career hits as a Met. He would, of course, have swamped Kranepool’s total if he had stayed with the team for the rest of his career, but the Marlins will pay him a lot more than the Mets were willing or able to. Then there is David Wright, who is right behind Reyes, in third place, with 1,248 career hits. Also 28, he is also poised to soar past Kranepool (and Reyes), provided he is not traded this winter, or next June or July. But he just might. It is true that the Yankees’ history is much longer than the Mets’, and that they have had many more years to cultivate players who stuck around forever, or close to it, and put up memorable career numbers. But even when all the seasons before 1962 are tossed aside, the Mets still fare poorly. The Elias Sports Bureau looked at all current 20 major league teams that existed in 1962, the Mets’ first season, and tracked each of those clubs from that point through this season. Within that five-decade time frame, it determined which position players had put up the best career numbers for those 20 teams, limiting the categories to hits, home runs and runs batted in. Anything a player did before 1962 was tossed aside; anything he did from 1962 and beyond was in play. The hundreds of home runs that Willie Mays hit for the Giants before 1962 were not part of the calculations; the hundreds he hit after the start of the 1962 season were. The same with Hank Aaron. Using this formula, Elias said, the Mets are dead last in all three categories. Take home runs. Barry Bonds hit 586 of them in a Giants uniform during that period, while Mike Schmidt socked 548 round-trippers for the Phillies. Strawberry, the Mets’ career leader, hit a more modest 252. (The Yankees’ leader for the 1962-2011 period is Bernie Williams, with 287. The Yankee’ career leader, of course, is Babe Ruth, with 659 from 1920 to 1934.) Strawberry also holds the Mets’ team record for runs batted in, with 733. But that is fewer than half the number compiled by Boston’s Carl Yastrzemski, who has the most runs batted in from 1962 to 2011, with 1,764. Cal Ripken Jr. of the Baltimore Orioles is second at 1,695. The disparity in hits is the most startling. Kranepool’s 1,418 is a million miles from the 3,358 Pete Rose piled up while he played for the Cincinnati Reds from 1963 to 1978, and then 1984 to 1986. In fact, five players in all — Rose, Jeter, Ripken, Yaztrzemski and Craig Biggio of the Houston Astros — had more than 3,000 hits for one team from 1962 to 2011. Meanwhile, the Mets do not get to 3,000 hits even when you add Kranepool and Reyes together. Of course, some of this statistical paucity will become a moot point if Wright, at least, sticks around in Flushing. Having been called up by the Mets in 2004, he has become the team’s career leader in doubles, with 281, and with 725 career R.B.I. is just eight short of Strawberry’s mark. He also has 183 career home runs, and needs 70 more to surpass Strawberry in that category. Wright was the model of offensive consistency until Citi Field opened in 2009. Its oversize dimensions threw him off stride and contributed to his erratic performance at the plate in the last three seasons. With the fences at Citi Field coming in, there is a decent chance that Wright will revert back to who he used to be and, if he does, and remains a Met until he retires, he could finish his career with over 2,500 hits and 400 home runs, the kind of career numbers that would add some heft to Mets history. But he is signed only through next season, with a club option for 2013. He may be here for another decade; he could be gone next month or next summer, if the Mets get a good enough offer. And if he goes elsewhere, as Reyes now has, then Kranepool — Mr. 1,418 — will rule the record book for a long time to come. http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/0 ... kranepool/

batmagadanleadoff Dec 05 2011 10:41 AM Re: Jose vs. David vs. the Krane

I did that post-61 stats only team leaders research a few months ago, on this very thread. The Mets are also dead last in runs scored.