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IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Ashie62 Jun 09 2011 04:12 AM

Sorry to see Grimm not posting this but...Time to rebound..

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 09 2011 08:41 AM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 09 2011 08:52 AM

You ask me whether I'd swap Niese for Gallardo straight up, and as much as I like-a the Hawkman, I'd do it (and not JUST to root for a guy named "Yovani Gallardo"). But you look at their stat lines on the year, and-- leaving aside pitching win-loss record-- they're surprisingly similar. (3.72 ERA/1.34 WHIP/2.23 K-to-BB ratio/12 HR allowed vs. 3.75 ERA/1.40 WHIP/2.19 K-to-BB/7 HR allowed). Basically, Gallardo gives up more HRs but strikes out more dudes/lets slightly-fewer guys on base... but, yeah, about the same level of effectiveness, from similar-styled pitchers. Of course, Gallardo hits like Carlos Zambrano, only with speed instead of crazy, so... still Yovani. But it's closer than you might think.

attgig Jun 09 2011 08:51 AM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

I'm going to make the early prediction that niese throws the mets first no-hitter today. today is the day...

TransMonk Jun 09 2011 08:56 AM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Now you've jinxed it. Getting to see a Metly no-no in person would be one of the highlights of my life. I'll be happy if the Mets can just keep Prince from hitting a dinger.

G-Fafif Jun 09 2011 02:50 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Everybody in the starting lineup, please step forward... Not so fast there, Bay. Jose Reyes, ss Justin Turner, 3b Carlos Beltran, rf Daniel Murphy, 1b Angel Pagan, cf Jason Pridie, lf Josh Thole, c Ruben Tejada, 2b Jon Niese, lhp

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2011 03:06 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

G-Fafif wrote: Everybody in the starting lineup, please step forward... Not so fast there, Bay. Jose Reyes, ss Justin Turner, 3b Carlos Beltran, rf Daniel Murphy, 1b Angel Pagan, cf Jason Pridie, lf Josh Thole, c Ruben Tejada, 2b Jon Niese, lhp wOw

Fman99 Jun 09 2011 03:07 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Good. Every time Bay steps to the plate I get erect with rage.

Ashie62 Jun 09 2011 06:04 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Lame looking lineup.

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 06:37 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

They had no business pitching to Tejada in that lame looking lineup with Niese on deckle. Heck, sometimes I wonder why teams don't play four outfielders in that situation.

Ashie62 Jun 09 2011 07:07 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

So, next years IF could be Ike Davis, Ruben Tejada, Jose Reyes and David Wright. I like

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 07:09 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Kicking Red to the curb. Ouch. This team is triple awesome.

Ashie62 Jun 09 2011 07:18 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

If Reyes is not the current NL MVP, Fielder is.

Ashie62 Jun 09 2011 07:20 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Edgy DC wrote: Kicking Red to the curb. Ouch. This team is triple awesome. Still room for Red on the team. I can be Unitarian about it.

Ashie62 Jun 09 2011 07:29 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Everybody hits...keep it coming. Bay? You keep watching what these guys do.

Ashie62 Jun 09 2011 07:33 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Muffy, that was kinda funny, nice try.

Frayed Knot Jun 09 2011 07:36 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Edgy DC wrote: They had no business pitching to Tejada in that lame looking lineup with Niese on deckle. Heck, sometimes I wonder why teams don't play four outfielders in that situation. Really? I was thinking as they did that about how pissed I was when Jerry would (often) walk #8 hitters (early in the game especially) rather than try to set up the pitcher to lead off the following inning. #1 pitcher going (had an off night but you didn't know that then) vs a 21 y/o #8 hitting middle infielder only in the lineup due to injuries? ... it didn't work out for the Brews but I would have done the same thing. Meanwhile, that's the 2nd time in three days we've turned killer innings into only so-so ones -- 8th inning game 1 was the other.

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 07:40 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Well, I don't mean to suggest that he should have been walked, but rather pitched around with the go-ahead run in scoring position. Meanwhile, the Mets are up 11 baserunners to two, but only one Prince Fielder swat seperates them in the column that counts.

Frayed Knot Jun 09 2011 07:42 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

More or less the same thing. I would have gone after him. The fact that he couldn't get him was probably the first clue that it wasn't Gallardo's night.

Ashie62 Jun 09 2011 07:54 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Time to pad the lead.

Frayed Knot Jun 09 2011 08:08 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

I've seen much more blatant examples of obstruction not called than that one with Prince/Pagan. I didn't see how he obstructed him at all. Not that it ultimately mattered. The two-man wrecking crew up this inning.

Fman99 Jun 09 2011 08:14 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

How has Fielder gotten anything to hit this year, what with the black hole of productivity that is Casey McGehee hitting behind him?

Frayed Knot Jun 09 2011 08:18 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

I dunno - but that was one helluva job by Niese right there.

Fman99 Jun 09 2011 08:20 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Agreed. Love watching Hawkman drop the hammer on these shitdicks.

Fman99 Jun 09 2011 08:21 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

McGehee kicking the ball around like one of those Ecuador guys at Citi Field.

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 08:23 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Niese at 84 pitches through seven. Can we do something radical and use the bullpen on an as-needed basis tonight?

themetfairy Jun 09 2011 08:25 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Frayed Knot wrote: I've seen much more blatant examples of obstruction not called than that one with Prince/Pagan. I didn't see how he obstructed him at all. Not that it ultimately mattered. The two-man wrecking crew up this inning. D-Dad was adamant that the obstruction call was a good one. Obstruction does not require contact; it only requires that the fielder be in the way of the runner when the runner is trying to move forward.

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 08:29 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Go-Go goes down for strikeout number eight. Let's Niese them out here and get another run(s) and save-proof this thing.

Ceetar Jun 09 2011 08:32 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Niese pacing 170 strikeouts. If you recall I predicted he has an outside shot at 200 if he were to improve tonight. (i.e. pitch like tonight more often) I also asked you who would have more strikeouts, Niese or Wright. I think we've answered that one.

Frayed Knot Jun 09 2011 08:32 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Gotta get Hart here. Big boys up next.

metsguyinmichigan Jun 09 2011 08:33 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

If I'm Neise, I make Terry pry me out of this game with a crowbar. Let's keep the pen out of it!

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 08:34 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Needed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 09 2011 08:37 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Now do your job, knob.

Fman99 Jun 09 2011 08:38 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Frankie sez relax.

themetfairy Jun 09 2011 08:38 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Nice catch by Pridie!

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 08:38 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Gulp!

Frayed Knot Jun 09 2011 08:39 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

I can barely remember a time NOT seeing Braun hit a ball squarely. But, we got out of it and now Prince Spaghetti can't be the tying or winning run next inning.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 09 2011 08:40 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

"GAH! HITTING IS HARD-Y!"

themetfairy Jun 09 2011 08:52 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Fasten your seatbelts. Fielder on second with nobody out in the 9th.

Fman99 Jun 09 2011 08:53 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

So this is what happens when you mix vinegar and water.

Fman99 Jun 09 2011 08:55 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

One out left to git.

Gwreck Jun 09 2011 08:58 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

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metsguyinmichigan Jun 09 2011 08:58 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

SWEET!!!

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 08:59 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

How about taking two of three from one of the top three or four teams in the league? And the hottest team in the league? And the home-field-advantagiest team in the league? Yeah, I know it could've been a sweep, but stillage.

Ceetar Jun 09 2011 09:02 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Edgy DC wrote: How about taking two of three from one of the top three or four teams in the league? And the hottest team in the league? And the home-field-advantagiest team in the league? Yeah, I know it could've been a sweep, but stillage. Only the Pirates stand in the way of .500.

themetfairy Jun 09 2011 09:02 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

A Niese win!

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 09:07 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Angel gets a gift certificate for the Grand Central Oyster Bar for appearing with Ed.

Ceetar Jun 09 2011 09:10 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Edgy DC wrote: Angel gets a gift certificate for the Grand Central Oyster Bar for appearing with Ed. I always wonder about that. All these silly gifts they get for things like that. You think Angel Pagan is actually hanging out in Grand Central? Probably hands it off to a friend right? Tips his driver with it?

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 09:19 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Pat Zachry once told a story about trying to use the Getty gift certificate he got for appearing on Kiner's Korner and the gas station attendant looking at him like he was nuts. I'd keep Angel away from raw seafood. That's just me.

Ceetar Jun 09 2011 09:21 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Edgy DC wrote: Pat Zachry once told a story about trying to use the Getty gift certificate he got for appearing on Kiner's Korner and the gas station attendant looking at him like he was nuts. I'd keep Angel away from raw seafood. That's just me. We know Reyes never uses his! Honestly I wonder if they even get the certificates. It's really just a sponsor thing right? They probably mail a handful of them to WFAN to give out, and Francesa uses them.

MFS62 Jun 09 2011 09:29 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 09 2011 09:49 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Angel gets a gift certificate for the Grand Central Oyster Bar for appearing with Ed. And Nick Evans gets his walking papers - DFA'd (according to Collins after the game). Does this mean we expact to see a Lucas Duda sighting very shortly? Later

Edgy DC Jun 09 2011 09:35 PM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

I think it does and I don't like it. Evans hasn't done much (neither has), but gives them more balance and versatility, especially with Bay sitting. I guess they're facing some righties in Pittsburgh and want to give Duda Bay's cuts.

Ceetar Jun 10 2011 05:32 AM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Edgy DC wrote: I think it does and I don't like it. Evans hasn't done much (neither has), but gives them more balance and versatility, especially with Bay sitting. I guess they're facing some righties in Pittsburgh and want to give Duda Bay's cuts. Well, the Mets obviously don't feel that way. They weren't really using Evans much. 17 PA, no hits, 5 walks. Personally I would've ditched Harris for Duda.

TransMonk Jun 10 2011 07:44 AM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Fun game and a fun series. The Mets have won the last 4 games I've attended to see them play in person. I like Miller Park more and more each time I visit it. I didn't miss not seeing Bay in the lineup. It was really nice to see an offense without Wright and Davis score some runs against one of the better pitchers in the league in Gallardo. The Mets really impressed me this week. I think we saw the Brewers big weakness this series: facing left handed pitching. Capuano and Niese both chewed up a lineup where the only lefty hitter of merit is Fielder.

metirish Jun 10 2011 07:49 AM Re: IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

Very nice series to be at Monk , you saw some great baseball, and some bad of course, still had to be nice to see a Mets team this scrappy nearly take all three.