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You're at Citi Field When Jeter Makes History Better


I stand and I applaud -- I respect the Captain. 0 votes

I stand and I applaud -- I respect history. 4 votes

I stand because everybody else does -- but I'm silent & motionless. 1 votes

I sit and pretend it's not happening -- I'm bitter. 7 votes

I sit/stand and boo -- I fucking hate Jeter and all MFYs. 7 votes

G-Fafif
Jun 19 2011 03:41 PM

So you've got a ticket for one of the upcoming Subway Series games, just in time for Captain Intangibles to register his 3,000th. After he's made the entire ballpark better by reaching base safely, what you do?

metirish
Jun 19 2011 03:45 PM
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It's probably little of me but I don't give a fuck, I hate the twat and the Yankees, I stand and boo.

themetfairy
Jun 19 2011 03:49 PM
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I hit the Shake Shack line while the line is short.

Edgy DC
Jun 19 2011 04:37 PM
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I sit and applaud. If he tries some game-delay shit like a victory lap, bets are off.

MFS62
Jun 19 2011 05:46 PM
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I sit politely.
I fucking hate Jeter (and most anyone else who has a career .360 average against the Mets) and all MFYs.
But I don't boo.

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 19 2011 06:06 PM
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I'd applaud politely. Really depends on game context, though, along with whether or not they drag out a podium or something.

Ashie62
Jun 19 2011 06:32 PM
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I stand silent and motionless for a moment and then run like hell to scarf all the food I can ala Met Fairy!

dgwphotography
Jun 19 2011 07:27 PM
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None of the above - I will never go into Citi/Shea while infested with YLDBs. Heaven knows communicable diseases are floating around.

Ceetar
Jun 19 2011 07:57 PM
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on the off chance it happens (I'll be there Saturday, I doubt Jeter will) I'll boo. I boo when opposing players get hits. they're the enemy. I'm not a gentlemanly opposing player in the same 'fraternity' of baseball players.

Let's get real here. This isn't some historic achievement. He's not passing a historical figure like Gehrig or Ruth, he already passed them. He's neither of those players. He doesn't transcend the sport in any way. Not at his position, not as a hitter, not as a fielder, and not even as a clutch hitter (which is simply a matter of being there a lot, he doesn't boast better numbers in clutch situations). His claim to fame is longevity and being on the Yankees. I hate the Yankees. therefore, Jeter collecting a personal milestone means nothing to me. Absolutely nothing.

Fman99
Jun 19 2011 08:19 PM
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I will yell 1890's curses at him, threatening to make him suck my ass and also calling him a cunt lapping dog.

Why mess with the classics?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 19 2011 08:23 PM
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The thing is, you KNOW the Wilpons will roll out the red carpet for the guy with intentions of giving a 'warm CitiField welcome' to our visitors from the Bronx. This they will do under the guise of being sportsmen, which they are in a sense, but they'll obviously do it for the ticket $ales, and won't for a second consider what it will all mean for the rest of us.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 19 2011 08:23 PM
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I was at the game in Detroit the day Clemens went for (tainted) win No. 300. I was with my baseball friends who gather for a game once a year, and we had these tickets months in advance, never suspecting this would happen.

No one in our group likes the Yankees -- as if I'd hang out with Yankee fans -- though none of these Midwesterners are as openly hostile to all things MFY as I am.

The consensus was that as baseball fans, we should embrace the historical nature of the moment. Kind of like the way I approach classical music -- I can appreciate it without actually enjoying it much. (Apologies to Beethoven for even distantly linking him to the MFYs)

(Of course, in that game, Clemens left with the lead, Jeter and Soriano kicked the ball around allowing the Tigers -- on their way to a 119-loss season -- to tie the game which then went something like 17 innings before the Tigers pissed away the lead. Freaking Yankees, they screw you over every time.)

Frayed Knot
Jun 19 2011 08:53 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
I'd applaud politely. Really depends on game context, though, along with whether or not they drag out a podium or something.


Just on a general note, I HATE it just about anytime the action is stopped in-game for a record acknowledgment. Tip your cap, acknowledge the applause, and when that dies down throw the next pitch. Records are meaningful only in the context of the game and shouldn't be treated as an end itself which trumps the game it occurred during. So yeah, if they're going to drag out a podium I'd hate it even if it were Reyes reaching 3K and I'd really turn on the boo machine if it's for an opponent.

The only one I was really OK with was Ripken and his post-5th inning trot, probably because that record was specifically for reaching that particular point. But otherwise spare me in on-field ceremonies. Save it for the post-game presser or, if the team wants to recognize the achievement further, set up a day to have a pre-game ceremony later on. And, yes, I was turned off by the McGwire/Sosa antics after the redhead's 62nd HR -- WAY over the top IMO.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 19 2011 09:02 PM
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But that drug-fueled sideshow SAVED baseball and Made America Proud again! What are you a communist?

I'm totally against round-number counting-stat celebrations and the whole superstarization of athletes in general.

metirish
Jun 19 2011 09:02 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
The thing is, you KNOW the Wilpons will roll out the red carpet for the guy with intentions of giving a 'warm CitiField welcome' to our visitors from the Bronx. This they will do under the guise of being sportsmen, which they are in a sense, but they'll obviously do it for the ticket $ales, and won't for a second consider what it will all mean for the rest of us.




just like they did that time with Tom Glavine....oh wait , he was with the Mets,

Frayed Knot
Jun 19 2011 09:08 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
But that drug-fueled sideshow SAVED baseball and Made America Proud again! What are you a communist?


Nyet!

G-Fafif
Jun 19 2011 09:15 PM
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That I actually had to stop and think about it indicates the terrorists have already won, but of course, "BOOOOO!!!!" If it's some non-MFY and the Mets are winning by a dozen or so runs in the eighth and it doesn't break up a no-hitter or shutout, I think I could bring myself to lightly clap a relatively random opponent's mega-milestone base hit. But otherwise, no. Fuck no.

G-Fafif
Jun 19 2011 09:18 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
The thing is, you KNOW the Wilpons will roll out the red carpet for the guy with intentions of giving a 'warm CitiField welcome' to our visitors from the Bronx. This they will do under the guise of being sportsmen, which they are in a sense, but they'll obviously do it for the ticket $ales, and won't for a second consider what it will all mean for the rest of us.


If the Wilpons can afford to replace it, we can assume the pitching rubber used to surrender this (thus far hypothetical) milestone-reaching base hit will be pulled up and forwarded directly to MFYS III or perhaps the Captain's castle in St. Jetersburg, Fla. And because the rubber was stepped on by a pitcher who permitted a base hit to Derek Jeter, it will make all the memorabilia around it better.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 20 2011 04:01 AM
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I sit and pretend it's not happening -- I'm bitter.

This one, but without the bitterness.

themetfairy
Jun 20 2011 06:05 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I sit and pretend it's not happening -- I'm bitter.

This one, but without the bitterness.


That's what I would have chosen if it were available (but I still prefer my Shake Shack strategy).

seawolf17
Jun 20 2011 08:10 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
on the off chance it happens (I'll be there Saturday, I doubt Jeter will) I'll boo. I boo when opposing players get hits. they're the enemy. I'm not a gentlemanly opposing player in the same 'fraternity' of baseball players.

Let's get real here. This isn't some historic achievement. He's not passing a historical figure like Gehrig or Ruth, he already passed them. He's neither of those players. He doesn't transcend the sport in any way. Not at his position, not as a hitter, not as a fielder, and not even as a clutch hitter (which is simply a matter of being there a lot, he doesn't boast better numbers in clutch situations). His claim to fame is longevity and being on the Yankees. I hate the Yankees. therefore, Jeter collecting a personal milestone means nothing to me. Absolutely nothing.

This.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
The thing is, you KNOW the Wilpons will roll out the red carpet for the guy with intentions of giving a 'warm CitiField welcome' to our visitors from the Bronx. This they will do under the guise of being sportsmen, which they are in a sense, but they'll obviously do it for the ticket $ales, and won't for a second consider what it will all mean for the rest of us.

And this.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 20 2011 08:23 AM
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Eh, I hit the men's room and let him know how I really feel.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 20 2011 08:37 AM
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I was at Shea in 1978 when Pete Rose received many ovations on his way to setting the NL hit-streak record. At this Mets game, Rose passed Tommy Holmes, the then NL record holder. I was appalled at all of the warmth and fuzzies sent Pete's way by the Mets fans in attendance. Up to that point, Rose was the biggest villain in the Mets universe -- Met fans never forgiving him for his playoffs fracas with Bud Harrelson. I stayed in my seat, and did not cheer at all. Rose turned out to be a graceless asshole when his streak ended about a week later: he griped that Phillies' reliever Gene Garber, the last pitcher Rose faced on the day that Rose's streak ended, pitched Rose like it was the seventh game of the World Series, implying that Garber should've tossed Rose a meatball so that the streak could continue.

I wouldn't cheer Jeter. And if I had advance warning that the hit was coming, I wouldn't even look. Fuck Derek Jeter.

TransMonk
Jun 20 2011 08:42 AM
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I stand and I applaud -- I respect history.

Edgy DC
Jun 20 2011 08:46 AM
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Garber was with Atlanta, but yeah. Rose went on to say that Phil Niekro would have given him a fastball.

Garber made a point of taking the rip as a compliment, but added that Rose didn't know Niekro very well.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 20 2011 08:54 AM
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I stand corrected. Garber began the '78 season with the Phils, but was traded to Atlanta in June for Dick Ruthven.


He received both MVP and Cy Young award votes in 1982, but 1978 was without doubt, Garber's best season.

Edgy DC
Jun 20 2011 09:19 AM
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The '78 Braves. I can talk about them all day.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 20 2011 09:33 AM
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Fman99 wrote:
I will yell 1890's curses at him, threatening to make him suck my ass and also calling him a cunt lapping dog.

Why mess with the classics?


"A LEADER OF A CLASSY, CLASSY DOGPACK MUST HAVE FUCKED YOUR MOTHER WHEN SHE MADE YOU!"

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jun 20 2011 09:06 PM
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dgwphotography
Jun 21 2011 07:43 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Up to that point, Rose was the biggest villain in the Mets universe -- Met fans never forgiving him for his playoffs fracas with Bud Harrelson.


I still haven't.

Edgy DC
Jun 22 2011 12:17 PM
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Because we need to literally worship the ground on which he walks.

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After 3,000, Even Dirt Will Sell

By RICHARD SANDOMIR
Published: June 21, 2011


Derek Jeter’s 3,000th hit will be a cause for celebration, marketing and — not least of all — digging up dirt.

After the game, a groundskeeper will tote a shovel and bucket onto the field to scoop five gallons of dirt from the batter’s box and shortstop’s patch. In baseball’s version of preserving the chain of evidence, the bucket will be sealed with tape and verified as the dirt beneath Jeter’s feet with tamper-proof holograms.

“It will be scooped in our presence,” said Cosmo Lubrano, an authenticator for Major League Baseball who would prove the dirt’s veracity if the 3,000th hit occurs at Yankee Stadium as he follows a bucket-carrying groundskeeper, probably Dan Cunningham. “We’re there as a witness.”

The dirt — from Yankee Stadium if all goes perfectly, but from some ballpark, perhaps Citi Field July 1 to 3 — will find its way into a vast and lucrative universe of celebrity memorabilia and collectibles, much of it orchestrated by a company named Steiner Sports. Tablespoonfuls of the dirt will be poured into capsules to dangle on key chains; ladled into disks to be framed with photographs of the hit (in what is called a dirt collage); and glued into the interlocking NY carved into commemorative bats.

“That bucket of dirt will go a long way,” said Brandon Steiner, the chairman of Steiner Sports, who has a memorabilia partnership with the Yankees and a marketing deal with Jeter.

The selling of Jeter’s historic hit — he is six short of 3,000 as he waits to heal from a calf strain — actually has its own campaign name: “DJ 3K,” and a logo that will appear on much of the merchandise capitalizing on his achievement. It is quite a list: T-shirts, caps, jerseys, bobbleheads, decals, cellphone skins, wall murals, patches, bats, balls, license plates and necklaces made by two dozen M.L.B. licensees.

Modell’s, the venerable New York sports goods chain, is not going to miss out. The chain’s Times Square location will stay open past its midnight or 1 a.m. closing time as long as fans keep shopping on the day or night of the accomplishment.

”We’re locked and loaded,” said Mitchell Modell, the chief executive of Modell’s.

The ingenious and sometimes crass rush to cash in on sports achievements is hardly new, whether it focuses on championship teams or great players. Each new chapter, however, adds some new flourish in the grab for nostalgia dollars, whether in the form of a new product or a different commercial approach.

The so-called “hot market” for Jeter’s 3,000th hit — the player’s equivalent of a World Series championship — will test his sky-high popularity during a season in which he is batting .260.

“I’ve been here for 13 years,” said Howard Smith, the senior vice president for licensing of Major League Baseball. “And other than the home run race in 1998, this is the most significant business we’ve done for a hot market for a player.”

Warehouses of some of the biggest licensees, like Majestic and New Era, which are accustomed to supplying stores with World Series merchandise, are ready to deliver their Jeter material to retailers. Modell’s distribution center in the Bronx is preparing to ship to its 94 New York and New Jersey stores.

“Between the New York market and how revered Jeter is, it’s going to be a huge event,” said Michael Johnson, a spokesman for Majestic, which is producing an array of jerseys and T-shirts.

And already, John Killen, the president of Wincraft, one of the 24 licensees, said he has booked substantial business for his Jeter flags, lanyards, pennants, travel mugs, pins and magnets.


Historic Yankee dirt

“Short of someone of Jeter’s caliber retiring, you won’t get an event bigger than this,” he said.

And, Jeter will get a cut of some of it. For all the licensed products sold by the likes of Rawlings, Nike, Majestic, Louisville Slugger, Fathead and New Era, he will share royalties with M.L.B. and the players’ union; he will also share in the sale of products sold under his deal with Steiner Sports. Already, he has designated proceeds from the sale of a silicone bracelet to benefit his Turn 2 Foundation.

Everything Jeter touches or wears as he pursues his 3,000th hit carries value. So will the bases he steps on. In deciding what to provide for sale, Jeter controls his cleats, wristbands, bats and batting gloves. The Yankees control what they provide to him, like his uniform, warm-up jackets, and caps, as well as the dirt, the bases and the pitching rubber.

And Steiner, through his deals with the Yankees and Jeter, can sell whatever he gets.

Jeter will probably ask to keep things — perhaps the most valuable items like the 3,000th hit ball — for himself.

“When the time comes,” said the Yankees’ president, Randy Levine, “we’ll sit down with Derek and his representatives and reach a mutual accommodation that’s good for everybody.”

Steiner said that he has already collected the jersey, batting gloves and cleats Jeter wore when he got his 2,994th hit on June 13; Steiner expects to get those items, and his cap, for every hit through 3,000. The dirt and bases (which could be switched every inning) will be added to the bounty only for hit No. 3,000.

Jeter is not likely to provide an extra bonanza by changing into a new game-perspired jersey every inning.

“That wouldn’t be Jeter-like,” Steiner said. “He’d never wear 10 jerseys in a game. Maybe two.”

Steiner also plans to sell the official lineup card, and replicas of it, and package fans’ ticket stubs into collectibles. He also hopes to develop photographs of the hit at Yankee Stadium to sell before fans leave.

“This won’t be the circus coming to town,” Steiner said.

Smith, the M.L.B. executive, said Jeter approached the marketing with some trepidation, fearing that it might seem all too much. Smith said that during a recent meeting with Jeter and his agent, Casey Close, “I explained how appropriate it was for us to market these products. And Derek is like, ’I don’t want to take the limelight’; he felt weird about it. I said, ’It’s appropriate to be recognized; you’re a generational athlete.’ “

Jeter’s return is scheduled for June 29, when the Yankees play the second game of a three-game series against the Milwaukee Brewers at home, followed by trips to Flushing and Cleveland, before returning home to play Tampa Bay ahead of the All-Star Game.

“We have to be ready,” said Lubrano, the Yankee Stadium authenticator. “He could go 5 for 5.”

metirish
Jun 22 2011 12:32 PM
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There's nothing that Steiner Sports won't sell , crooks.

Edgy DC
Jun 22 2011 12:37 PM
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And there's nothing that would redeem Fred Wilpon faster in some eyes than him saying "Get that fucking shovel off of my field."

Ceetar
Jun 22 2011 12:43 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
And there's nothing that would redeem Fred Wilpon faster in some eyes than him saying "Get that fucking shovel off of my field."


He should file a suit for theft afterwards.

Edgy DC
Jun 22 2011 12:49 PM
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“That wouldn’t be Jeter-like,” Steiner said. “He’d never wear 10 jerseys in a game. Maybe two.”

This is what always gets me about the Jeter-touters. He's cynical in the same way as everybody else. I can deal with that. It's the way the world is. But I'm supposed to celebrate that he's the same but in moderation --- as measured out in some careful PR-calibrated moderation? "He'd never drown six kittens. Maybe one. One a week, in the privacy of his home. That's it. Unless there's a party or something."

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 22 2011 01:55 PM
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Alas, no deal with Charmin to put the logo on TP. I could get behind that!

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 22 2011 02:03 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
And there's nothing that would redeem Fred Wilpon faster in some eyes than him saying "Get that fucking shovel off of my field."


Fred'll probably just ask for his cut of the dirt.

It's' not like he couldn't use the money.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 22 2011 02:19 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
And there's nothing that would redeem Fred Wilpon faster in some eyes than him saying "Get that fucking shovel off of my field."


Fred'll probably just ask for his cut of the dirt.

It's' not like he couldn't use the money.


This.

Edgy DC
Jun 22 2011 02:21 PM
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Well, yeah, it's not like I actually anticipate Jeter getting anything but a red carpet.

Edgy DC
Jun 30 2011 09:34 PM
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Derek Jeter is now not expected to play at CitiField. Yankee blogger acknowledges (1) the injury is a lie, and (2) "It's not hurting the Yankees."

"It's all good," he claims. He congratulates them on their savvy. Can you dig?

Ceetar
Jun 30 2011 09:43 PM
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Coming back Monday..is he ducking the drama?

I heard Michael Kay driving home. They were debating the whole Jeter probably shouldn't be leading off thing. Michael Kay insisted that you can't do that to him, etc etc, no one knows how to win like he does, he always thinks he's the best player on the field. La Greca tried to counter with shouldn't he be a leader and do what's best for the team, if he's never going to accept he's _not_ the best won't this just cause drama for years?

I'm pretty sure Kay's just upset that with the injury being in Jeter's knee, he can't get down on them.

themetfairy
Jul 01 2011 06:59 AM
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They're marketing Captain Intangibles' rehab in Trenton to the max - selling tickets like hotcakes.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 01 2011 07:13 AM
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I'd rather have hotcakes.

Ceetar
Jul 01 2011 07:55 AM
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Come watch The Great Derek Jeter ground out softly to shortstop against minor leaguers.

metsmarathon
Jul 01 2011 08:09 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
Coming back Monday..is he ducking the drama?

I heard Michael Kay driving home. They were debating the whole Jeter probably shouldn't be leading off thing. Michael Kay insisted that you can't do that to him, etc etc, no one knows how to win like he does, he always thinks he's the best player on the field. La Greca tried to counter with shouldn't he be a leader and do what's best for the team, if he's never going to accept he's _not_ the best won't this just cause drama for years?

I'm pretty sure Kay's just upset that with the injury being in Jeter's knee, he can't get down on them.


i was waiting for la greca to counter with the leader angle, but what he really should have said is that, if bumping derek jeter down to the 9-hole for the good of the team would negatively affect him in any way, then the derek jeter we've been led to believe in is a lie.

but we've known that for years, ever since they traded for arod.

Edgy DC
Jul 01 2011 08:20 AM
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Oh, I think we knew it before then.

The amount of drama over telling big shot highly paid ballplayers they have to play/bat where their relative performance suggests they belong just blows my mind. If that's the way it is for managers, that's the way it is, but I see no reason why fans and writers should endorse it. It's pathetic. Laughable.

When Derek Bell flipped out after being told that his performance in spring training had indicated he was no longer the Pirates' best option for right field, crying that nobody told him there would be a competition, somebody posted at the MOFo, "Derek, it's the Major Leagues."

I would suggest that the same truth holds for all men named Derek.

Ceetar
Jul 01 2011 08:24 AM
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Francesa complained a a bunch too. Nunez's defense or something. I saw the throwing error yesterday. Jeter doesn't get to it and it goes into to CF. the guy's on first, maybe second, base anyway. But Jeter's way doesn't look bad, so let's give him a gold glove and rave about his sure hands.

I think the Derek Bell thing is a little more unfair, I know it's "The Major Leagues" but Spring Training doesn't exactly count, and guys do different things when they think they're guarenteed a job. But still


Posada flipped out too. Pettitte's a cheater that was always about himself/family more than the team, like when he left to play in Houston and last year when he left the Yankees hanging for months on his decision to retire or not. Rivera's probably the best guy of their 'core', and he probably cheated too.

Edgy DC
Jul 01 2011 08:33 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
I think the Derek Bell thing is a little more unfair, I know it's "The Major Leagues" but Spring Training doesn't exactly count, and guys do different things when they think they're guarenteed a job. But still

Bell was coming off a season where he went .173 / .287 / .288 // .576. Should somebody really be obliged to tell him he's playing for his life?* It's just the way the world works.

*I have review this afternoon at four. Four o'clock on a Friday before a holiday weekend(!) You bet your ass I know my job's on the line.

Ceetar
Jul 01 2011 08:46 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
I think the Derek Bell thing is a little more unfair, I know it's "The Major Leagues" but Spring Training doesn't exactly count, and guys do different things when they think they're guarenteed a job. But still

Bell was coming off a season where he went .173 / .287 / .288 // .576. Should somebody really be obliged to tell him he's playing for his life?* It's just the way the world works.

*I have review this afternoon at four. Four o'clock on a Friday before a holiday weekend(!) You bet your ass I know my job's on the line.


ballplayers are dumb.

He should've seen it coming obviously. And he probably wouldn't have suddenly become good in Spring if he was 'trying' nor would it necessarily have prompted them to NOT make the decision they were probably set on making anyway.

But ballplayers also always seem to think the bad is a fluke and they're god's gift and all that. Probably wasn't even thinking 'i sucked last year, i should kick it in gear'. probably thought "I'm awesome, i'm the RFer, let's get in shape"

Frayed Knot
Jul 01 2011 09:54 AM
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Yanx, btw, are doing fine (12-3) in Jeter's absence, just like they survived quite nicely as a team in the other time they went without his presence (they were 26-12 while he sat out with a busted up shoulder in 2003), and just as they were when they were essentially without his bat due to a month-long slump he had in April/May 2004 (Yanx were 17-13 while he was hitting .177). The only difference now is that people realize he's closer to the end than the beginning and so it's semi-OK to talk about it.

It's like after CBS fired Jimmy the Greek for basically being an idiot and then the media, who had been covering him for years while passing him off as not just a tout but some kind of seer, suddenly "discovered" that the accuracy of his picks were about the same as if you based them on whether your dog went for the blue or yellow water dish first. They all knew (or certainly should have known) that he had no such mystic powers in the first place but to say so while he was still on the top of the top rated football lead-in show was considered in bad taste (although I don't know why) and, perhaps more importantly, would have limited access and contacts to that entire show so best to simply gloss over it.
The Sunday NYTimes Magazine did a cover story on Jeter last week dealing with all these issues: declining production, facing icons, aging ballplayers, large contracts, etc., but had to do so without media access to Yanqui Stadium because the team refused to issue them credentials once they found out the topic of the story.

Rockin' Doc
Jul 01 2011 07:18 PM
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I think I would be overcome with a wave of nausea which would cause me to grab the nearest Yankee hat so I could use it as a barf bag.