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IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

G-Fafif Jun 21 2011 12:45 PM

Reyes-SS Turner-3B Beltran-RF Murphy-1B Pagan-CF Bay-LF Paulino-C Tejada-2B Gee-RHP

Ceetar Jun 21 2011 04:42 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Let's hope Outman doesn't get very many of them. Weeks 2b, Pennington ss, Crisp cf, Matsui lf, Jackson 1b, Sweeney rf, Suzuki c, Sizemore 3b, Outman p.

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 05:42 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Two-zip already?! Shammick! A little less Tejada and a little more Duda Ruben leaves the lineup a little desnuda

Ceetar Jun 21 2011 05:43 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

You guys have been MIA lately. What's up? 2-0 A's. More first inning runs for Gee but that's usually the only time he gives them up.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 21 2011 05:47 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Dillygee's looked like shit so far, bad control in the first and every strike's been hammered.

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 05:54 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Matsui's first time wearing the glove all season.

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 05:56 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Bases bloated and one out. Serious trouble here. Five walks! Carrasco up!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 21 2011 05:56 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Ceetar wrote: You guys have been MIA lately. What's up? We're finishing up our Scrabble games on fb. Oh, wait, we're not. (zing!)

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 05:58 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Six! Mike Torrez's record on the line.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 21 2011 05:59 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

I'll bust this rookie back down to Buffalo so fast he'll never get that Topps rookie cup on his baseball card next year. More Playing The Game Right.

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 06:00 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Oh, man, awful inning. Only two runs home?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 21 2011 06:04 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Well, hell, they haven't hit anything.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 21 2011 06:28 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Dare I root for a big hit from Bay here? (go Bay)

Fman99 Jun 21 2011 06:52 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

DJ drops a deuce on the mound and the A's drop one on the scoreboard.

Ashie62 Jun 21 2011 07:05 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

The fun part of the Mets season is ending..welcome to hell...Losing streak..trades...Football season..

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 07:11 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

I feel the season ending, too, but to heck with football.

Frayed Knot Jun 21 2011 07:16 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

I walk into the bathroom and miss a Jason Bay HR?!?!?? What are the odds?

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 07:31 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

OK, leadoff runner on in the seventh. Bay swinging a hot bat. With any luck we'll get a furious comeback foiled by a bored ump.

Frayed Knot Jun 21 2011 07:35 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Yeah, let's hit a few more pop-ups!

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 07:51 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Two-out walk, tying run on triple deck. And Bay slugs a triple! Tying run on double deck!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 21 2011 07:51 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Holy shit, what happened to Bay? (and Reyes?!?)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 21 2011 07:52 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Welcome to 2011, Monsieur.

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 07:53 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

They swapped souls, baby. Hayne and Wowie say, "Stupid orange lines."

Ashie62 Jun 21 2011 07:54 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

So Bay can sleep well now. Even if the Mets lose?

Frayed Knot Jun 21 2011 07:55 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

OK, here's an interesting scenario -- supposing the original call on something like this was that it hit the wall and therefore not a HR. But the replay rules that not only did it not hit the back wall but that it never hit any wall at all but just Crisp's glove and that Crisp caught it on the way down (he didn't, but just play along for the moment). Does the video then allow the umps to change the call to an out even though it's only supposed to be used for boundary calls not out/safe calls?

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 07:56 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Willie Harris, get that man home.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 21 2011 07:56 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Right call, looks like. How bout that factoid: Bay has had 2 HRs in a game 2 times alreday as a Met and 8 overall.

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 07:58 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

HbP, and the tying run on deck, folks.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 21 2011 07:59 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

I don't mind a tease tonight.

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 08:00 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Duda and Pride on the bench. They've probably got to let Tejada bat.

Frayed Knot Jun 21 2011 08:01 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Edgy DC wrote: Duda and Pride on the bench. They've probably got to let Tejada bat. Duda to 1B, Murph to 2B

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 08:01 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Nope, they courageously go to Duda.

Frayed Knot Jun 21 2011 08:02 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Duda and Pride on the bench. They've probably got to let Tejada bat. Duda to 1B, Murph to 2B Or Harris to 2B

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 08:03 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Or Moify to thoid and Toiner to second.

Frayed Knot Jun 21 2011 08:04 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Hey Grant, what's your last name again?

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 08:04 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Josh Thole, make your momma proud.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 21 2011 08:05 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Gary-- "no home runs this year"-- reverse-jinxing with all his might.

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 08:06 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Don't need no homer. Just keep it goin'. Oooooh.... foul.

Edgy DC Jun 21 2011 08:07 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Boogers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 21 2011 08:08 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Fartnuggets.

Frayed Knot Jun 21 2011 08:09 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

That's the problem with not starting rallies until there are two out - it just takes one AB to kill it. For all that noise we never even got Bay in from 3rd

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 21 2011 08:42 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Really bad night offensively for the catchers -- a hit in nearly any AB they had some extra good potential. Also, Reyes is cooling down. Anyone else have the feeling this team peaked momentarily before Frankie blew that ATL game, and this is what it's been like since then?

Ceetar Jun 21 2011 09:09 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Really bad night offensively for the catchers -- a hit in nearly any AB they had some extra good potential. Also, Reyes is cooling down. Anyone else have the feeling this team peaked momentarily before Frankie blew that ATL game, and this is what it's been like since then? They've basically been playing slightly better than .500 baseball since the slow start, and since Ike and David went down. I think getting them back goes a long way, because we've lost a lot of close games where we just didn't hit. Even the last couple that weren't that close would've been different games with a little more offense. Hopefully it's only a temporary slump for the bunch of them, but if Bay 'wakes up' then that'll surely help. crossing my fingers on Ike Tomorrow..or was it today?..and David Thursday. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them cleared and back in 10-14 days. If the Mets want to go 'overslot' maybe they should think about offering contracts to the Phillies coaches that get subpar hitting and subpar bullpen guys to overperform consistently. Not that i'm begrudging Hudgens anything, I do think he's done a pretty good job. Still think Warthen is useless though.

MFS62 Jun 21 2011 09:33 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Gee had a 4.96 ERA in AAA last year, so I thought he might have a tough time against that AAA lineup Oakland put on the field tonight. Later

Gwreck Jun 21 2011 09:53 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Frayed Knot wrote: OK, here's an interesting scenario -- supposing the original call on something like this was that it hit the wall and therefore not a HR. But the replay rules that not only did it not hit the back wall but that it never hit any wall at all but just Crisp's glove and that Crisp caught it on the way down (he didn't, but just play along for the moment). Does the video then allow the umps to change the call to an out even though it's only supposed to be used for boundary calls not out/safe calls? Yes, a replay can be used to turn a call to an out, but can only do so on balls that are initially called as home runs but that fans interfered with. I can't ever see your scenario actually happening. It would require a ball initially being called "in play, not a homer" but actually having been caught. It would require a colossal screw-up for an umpire to miss the ball actually being caught in that scenario. (A play initially called "out" is not replay reviewable). If they ever really did screw that up so badly, I do think they can overrule the call after conferring (but not with the benefit of replay).

Gwreck Jun 21 2011 10:03 PM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Not a fan of tonight's game. Not a fan of pitchers walking leadoff batters repeatedly. Not a fan of pitchers throwing 100 MPH but with no control. Not a fan of out-of-town scoreboards that don't work properly because it's interleague time (they simply declined to show the MIN-SF game). Not a fan of the Citi Field gestapo making people take down their signs. Not a fan of parks that have too much advertising, leaving no place to hang signs.

Frayed Knot Jun 22 2011 07:03 AM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

OK, here's an interesting scenario -- supposing the original call on something like this was that it hit the wall and therefore not a HR. But the replay rules that not only did it not hit the back wall but that it never hit any wall at all but just Crisp's glove and that Crisp caught it on the way down (he didn't, but just play along for the moment). Does the video then allow the umps to change the call to an out even though it's only supposed to be used for boundary calls not out/safe calls? Yes, a replay can be used to turn a call to an out, but can only do so on balls that are initially called as home runs but that fans interfered with. I can't ever see your scenario actually happening. It would require a ball initially being called "in play, not a homer" but actually having been caught. It would require a colossal screw-up for an umpire to miss the ball actually being caught in that scenario. (A play initially called "out" is not replay reviewable). If they ever really did screw that up so badly, I do think they can overrule the call after conferring (but not with the benefit of replay). I agree it would need to be an unusual situation: something on the order of the umps initially calling that the ball hit the fence and then fell into the OF's glove only to discover that it hit his glove in front of the wall and then fell into his glove. Bay's drive last night did, in fact, appear to hit only Crisp's glove and not either the front or back walls but of course he did not cradle the rebound. But as I was watching things unfold last night the thought occurred to me that Terry could come out an argue for a review only to have the call wind up worse for his team than the one they originally made (triple turned into an out rather than the hoped-for HR) and more generally about the slippery slope you get into when you decide to employ replay but only for limited uses. IOW, what if you go looking for something but then find something else that's not specifically under the replay guidelines? In this case the rule, which is in place only be used for HR questions, would overturn a catch/no-catch call simply because that was near the wall where a similar out/safe question where the OFer is coming in could not be settled via replay. And, btw, what would you do with any runner(s) in the above (or similar) hypothetical? Naturally they see the safe call and run. Can they now be blamed for not retreating even though they were following the ump's call at the time? Do you place them back at their bases free of charge so to speak because the wrong call was made? Is it a judgement call as to whether or not they could have made it back based on where they were at the time of the call, a ruling which could place some runners back on their base of origin but others not?

Edgy DC Jun 22 2011 07:08 AM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

If this is just a brief oasis in a desert of failure for Bay, this team is in trouble. Seems to me that they reallly need last night to be real. Too many guys had been playing over their heads and can carry him no longer.

Ceetar Jun 22 2011 07:15 AM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Edgy DC wrote: If this is just a brief oasis in a desert of failure for Bay, this team is in trouble. Seems to me that they reallly need last night to be real. Too many guys had been playing over their heads and can carry him no longer. I agree. Even if he's gonna be mostly 'eh' all season, if he could sorta blast a couple of home runs in the next say two weeks and hopefully Davis and Wright come back then? If he could just help keep the team afloat for a couple of weeks?

Edgy DC Jun 22 2011 07:21 AM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

Just grab a paddle, Jason!

TransMonk Jun 22 2011 07:21 AM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

He's hitting .353 over his last nine games (since sitting the two out). The Mets are 3-6 in those games. The Mets were better when Bay was sucking.

Frayed Knot Jun 22 2011 08:01 AM Re: IGT 6/21/2011: OAK @ NYM -- Let's Get All Dillongee

TransMonk wrote: He's hitting .353 over his last nine games (since sitting the two out). Problem is that, until last night, all his hits were singles - and most of them were simply grounders that found their way between 3B & SS (I remember one hard liner up the middle), grounders that could just as easily been at someone instead. So it wasn't just that he was sucking, it was that he was sucking while showing no signs of breaking out. Last night at least was a change of pace.