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Reyes Superlatives

Ceetar
Jun 20 2011 05:32 PM

Sandy Alderson wrote:
I wouldn't call anything he does an aberration.

MFS62
Jun 21 2011 07:18 AM
Re: Reyes Superlatives

How about:
"The best ballplayer they shouldn't trade"?

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 21 2011 08:19 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
Sandy Alderson wrote:
I wouldn't call anything he does an aberration.


This could kinda go both ways; absent context, it's a bit like he's saying that the entire spectrum of human behavior is within the realm of the usual for Reyes. Bases-clearing triple to win the Series? 700-foot home run? Grant a postgame interview to his just-removed athletic supporter? Throw feces at a visiting politician? "None of it's an aberration."

Ceetar
Jun 21 2011 08:29 AM
Re: Reyes Superlatives

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
Sandy Alderson wrote:
I wouldn't call anything he does an aberration.


This could kinda go both ways; absent context, it's a bit like he's saying that the entire spectrum of human behavior is within the realm of the usual for Reyes. Bases-clearing triple to win the Series? 700-foot home run? Grant a postgame interview to his just-removed athletic supporter? Throw feces at a visiting politician? "None of it's an aberration."


that's what makes quotes out of context so amusing. I was thinking of over the top "he's awesome" superlatives with this thread, but i imagine either way it's superlative no?

Ceetar
Jun 21 2011 08:29 AM
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Carlos Delgado wrote:
He's a game-changer

Edgy DC
Jun 21 2011 08:43 AM
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I like to think of it meaning something like "Anything he does, no matter how strange --- catch a ball in his mouth, subpoena an umpire, have a baby on the field --- it's perfectly possible that he'll do it three or more times before the season is out. We see him do these things in practice all the time."

bmfc1
Jun 21 2011 08:51 AM
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Idiot Kay said yesterday "I don't think he's the best player in baseball" but he didn't say who is. I assume it's Jeter, his bf.

Gwreck
Jun 21 2011 09:25 AM
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Albert Pujols?

attgig
Jun 21 2011 10:29 AM
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When Reyes goes, the Mets go.



does that mean if Reyes goes... (gets traded), the Mets get traded too?

Ceetar
Jun 27 2011 12:22 PM
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Patrick Flood wrote:
It’s gotten to the point that I half expect a coyote to hand Reyes dynamite when he’s on the basepaths, or him to reveal accidentally that he’s discovered how to bend the rules of the Matrix.

metirish
Jun 29 2011 07:06 AM
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?@AdamRubinESPN:

So in Reyes' first 1,000 games: 98 triples, 360 steals. Only better, per Elias, thru 1,000 games: Ty Cobb (106 triples, 391 steals). #mets

soupcan
Jun 29 2011 07:57 AM
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And if Ty Cobb in his prime was a FA today - would he get 'Carl Crawford money'?

MFS62
Jun 29 2011 08:01 AM
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metirish wrote:
?@AdamRubinESPN:

So in Reyes' first 1,000 games: 98 triples, 360 steals. Only better, per Elias, thru 1,000 games: Ty Cobb (106 triples, 391 steals). #mets

And Jose hasn't even sharpened his spikes yet.
When you compare a ballplayer to Ty Cobb after 1,000 major league games, that's pretty superlative right there. In fact, it might be the superlative-est.

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 29 2011 08:26 AM
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Definitely. It's not easy at all to do something that only Ty Cobb has done. Unless you decide to charge into the stands and beat up a one-armed fan.

Edgy DC
Jun 29 2011 09:03 AM
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Probably not as easy as it sounds. Meanwhile...

"He's dynamic -- an eye-catcher."

--- Jim Leyland.

Ceetar
Jun 29 2011 10:16 AM
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FAFIF wrote:
Jose Reyes leads the 1972 Mets in base hits by more than twenty and he hasn’t even played half a season.

bmfc1
Jun 29 2011 03:15 PM
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Jose was on Lupica's show today. At the end, Lupica said "thank you for getting to the ballpark a little early to do this today." Jose laughed and said "I come early everyday anyway Papi.... thank you man, thank you for having me, bro.'"

It's a pleasure to listen to any interview w/Jose.

metirish
Jun 30 2011 07:04 AM
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Has Stan Musial been mentioned yet?, I checked attgig's thread and didn't see his name either.

Reyes’ total of 98 triples is the highest by any major-league player through 1,000 games since Stan Musial had 98 when he reached that milestone game in 1949.

Most triples in first 1,000 games among players to debut since 1946

Player Triples

Jose Reyes 98
Carl Crawford 87
Lance Johnson 84
George Brett 82
Gary Templeton 79

SOURCE: ELIAS SPORTS BUREAU

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 30 2011 07:09 AM
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Most triples for the same team, post 1961 stats only, as of 5/30/11

1. George Brett - Royals - 137
2. Willie Wilson - Royals - 133
3. Robin Yount - Brewers - 126
4. Lou Brock - Cards - 121
5. Pete Rose - Reds - 115
6. Roberto Clemente - Pirates - 108
7. Carl Crawford - Devil Rays/Rays - 105
8. Willie Davis - Dodgers - 103
9. Jimmy Rollins - Phillies - 99
10. Jose Reyes - Mets - 91
11. Rod Carew - Twins - 90


Most triples for the same team, post 1961 stats only, as of right now

1. George Brett - Royals - 137
2. Willie Wilson - Royals - 133
3. Robin Yount - Brewers - 126
4. Lou Brock - Cards - 121
5. Pete Rose - Reds - 115
6. Roberto Clemente - Pirates - 108
7. Carl Crawford - Devil Rays/Rays - 105
8. Willie Davis - Dodgers - 103
9. Jimmy Rollins - Phillies - 99
10. Jose Reyes - Mets - 98
11. Rod Carew - Twins - 90

MFS62
Jun 30 2011 07:11 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Definitely. It's not easy at all to do something that only Ty Cobb has done. Unless you decide to charge into the stands and beat up a one-armed fan.

Which reminds me, which actor will play Jose in the movie?
With so many CPF-ers into movies and actors, maybe this should be a separate thread.

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 30 2011 07:34 AM
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I'll do it.

Chad Ochoseis
Jun 30 2011 07:41 AM
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Today's NYT:


“We don’t even have to get a hit,” Justin Turner said. “He can get on and then score himself. He’s Superman. He’s better than Superman.”



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/30/sport ... l?_r=1&hpw

MFS62
Jun 30 2011 07:46 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I'll do it.

Play the role or start the thread?
Later

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 30 2011 07:47 AM
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Play the role!

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 30 2011 07:54 AM
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I would cast Wallace Shawn as Jose Reyes, Woody Allen as Terry Collins and Tony Roberts as Jeff Wilpon

MFS62
Jun 30 2011 08:14 AM
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Back to Reyes superlatives.

The two guys on ESPN NY radio (Robin Lundberg and ?) from noon to 2 PM are dyed in the wool Yankee fans, barely deigning to admit the Mets exist for the first part of this year.
Recently, they have been talking about the Mets and the year Jose has been having. So I have been listening to them for both comic relief as well as to hear their perspective on the Mets.
Yesterday, I heard one of them say that the Mets can't trade Jose, not only for the numbers he has been putting up, but because of his "intangibles".

I thought Yankee fans only used that word for you-know-who.
Considering the source, that's the best superlative I can think of.

Later

Edgy DC
Jun 30 2011 08:17 AM
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Dueling superlatives.

Verlander vs. Reyes is Battle of Best
Jon Paul Morosi


Tigers ace Justin Verlander is the most fascinating pitcher in baseball right now.

Jose Reyes, the Mets' kinetic marvel, is his must-see counterpart.

Around 1:05 p.m. ET today, Reyes will step into the left-handed batter's box at Comerica Park. Verlander will stand on the mound — 60 feet, 6 inches away. And then we will witness a competition between two men at the absolute peak of their respective professions.

Right now, baseball can offer no higher entertainment than these 28-year-old superstars — one from Goochland, Va., the other from Santiago, Dominican Republic.

“That's true,” confirmed Tigers first baseman Miguel Cabrera, who knows something about elite performance. “Just like (Reyes), Verlander can do whatever he wants. They're dominating the game right now. It's amazing.

“I'm proud to play with Verlander, to see this guy every five nights do what he can do. You feel good about all your pitchers, but this guy is something special ... He's not normal.”

The Mets utter the same superlatives when asked about Reyes — especially lately. The dynamic shortstop rapped four hits in back-to-back games this week and collected another two (routine, right?) in New York's 16-9 drubbing of Detroit on Wednesday.

Reyes leads the National League in batting average (.349), hits (119), runs (65), triples (15) and multi-hit games (41). He's hardly a small-ball player. “He told me, ‘I'm going to bunt,’” Cabrera said, recalling a conversation the two had prior to the series. “I said, ‘You're not going to waste your time bunting. You're feeling too good swinging.’”

Reyes has the lowest strikeout rate of any NL hitter. Well, he's about to face the foremost strikeout pitcher in the American League — a guy who is 8-0 with a 1.77 ERA (not to mention a no-hitter) in his past 11 starts.

Game on.

“I can't wait,” Reyes said with a smile, after the Mets won for the sixth time in seven games. “He's one of the best pitchers in the game. There's no doubt. We're going to see what happens … We're going to go with the same attitude (we've had) the past couple days. Nothing's going to change for us. We're going to go to home plate with the same plan.”

That plan, by the way, has netted 52 runs over the past four games — a team record.

“He's very, very, very good,” Mets manager Terry Collins said of Verlander. “But no disrespect to him at all, we've faced a lot of good ones, when you talk about Doc (Halladay) and (Tim) Lincecum and Josh Johnson. We've faced a bunch of them. We're going to face another one (now). We'll be ready.”

Reyes has little history against Verlander — one single in two career at-bats — but it's not as if the switch-hitting dynamo is a mystery to the AL. Verlander has seen Reyes' exploits on the highlight shows. He's aware that Reyes leads the free world in triples. He acknowledges that he's about to contest with “one of the best players in baseball.”

And Verlander watched from the dugout as Reyes went 6 for 10 with four runs scored during the first two games of this series, both New York victories.

So, perhaps just this once, Verlander's no-hitter-until-proven-otherwise will be in jeopardy on the game's first pitch.

“If he gets on, then I've got to face the next guy,” Verlander said. “But obviously, with a guy like him, you've got to do all you can to keep him off base.”

Reyes demonstrated why in the first inning of Wednesday's win: He led off with a single, took second when Cabrera missed a pickoff throw, stole third without a throw and scored on a wild pitch by erratic Detroit starter Phil Coke. No hits necessary.

Reyes is famous for either stealing second base or kicking past it at warp speed en route to a triple. He could become the majors' first 30-triple man since Chief Wilson of the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1912. But right now, his most impressive statistic could be a “1” — as in, the number of triples that involved a close play at third, according to Mets first base coach Mookie Wilson.

“You need something like that, to keep the game from being same-old, same-old, every day,” said Wilson, the Mets' franchise leader in triples — before Reyes came along. “It's a difference when Jose Reyes hits the ball. Then he gets on base, and that's another aspect of his game. Defense — there's another aspect. He's liable to show you something in any inning.”

The atmosphere in downtown Detroit should match the occasion.

Verlander's most recent start drew the first sellout to Comerica Park since Opening Day — and included a stirring ovation after he completed eight shutout innings. Earlier this month, late-arriving fans bought tickets when he took a no-hitter into the eighth inning against the Cleveland Indians.

“I want to pitch well for this team, this organization, this city,” Verlander said. “For them to come and show that appreciation, it's been fantastic.”

Generally, when we get excited about a game-within-a-game, it's because of the two starting pitchers — Cliff Lee vs. Josh Beckett, for example. This is different and maybe even a little better. No one bought a ticket for Tuesday's game in Philadelphia to watch Lee, the pitcher, against Beckett, the hitter. Their competition was indirect. It will be different today in Detroit.

This is baseball's slice of Reggie Wayne/Darrelle Revis or Kobe Bryant/Bruce Bowen. Reyes is baseball's most dynamic run scorer. Verlander is baseball's most dynamic run stopper.

Let's see what happens today, just after 1 o'clock.

“There's going to be a lot of expectations,” Cabrera said. “I've got to go with my guy. I've got to go with Verlander.”

Then the big guy grinned.

“Hopefully we get him out.”

metirish
Jun 30 2011 08:20 AM
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Such a great time to be a Mets fan.

Frayed Knot
Jun 30 2011 11:29 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Yesterday, I heard one of them say that the Mets can't trade Jose, not only for the numbers he has been putting up, but because of his "intangibles".


Funny how a player's "intangibles" suddenly increase the minute his offense does likewise.

metirish
Jul 01 2011 07:48 AM
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My son told me the other day " I like Jose Reyes daddy" , I was talking to his uncle about Jose and he was listening in, it warmed my heart , that coupled with his proclamation a few weeks ago " I don't like the yankees daddy" makes me feel good about the job I'm doing.

soupcan
Jul 01 2011 08:21 AM
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And when they don't sign Jose get ready for 'Why are we Mets fans Daddy...?'

Ceetar
Jul 01 2011 08:24 AM
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soupcan wrote:
And when they don't sign Jose get ready for 'Why are we Mets fans Daddy...?'


And the "I'm a ____ fan now"

metirish
Jul 01 2011 08:28 AM
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soupcan wrote:
And when they don't sign Jose get ready for 'Why are we Mets fans Daddy...?'



I know right, sucks.

Lefty Specialist
Jul 01 2011 11:21 AM
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When the Mets traded for Mike Piazza, my son was 2 1/2. He grew up thinking that Mike Piazza was eternal- to him, he had always been there. When he outgrew a Piazza shirt, we got him a bigger one. When Mike finally departed in 2005, he was 10, and deeply rooted in his Met-ness. But it stung him that a part of his young childhood was suddenly gone.

I knew Piazza had declined, that there was no room for him going forward. But my rational thinking was no match for the childish thought that some things should be permanent. It was his rough introduction to the fact that baseball is a business.

Ceetar
Jul 01 2011 11:27 AM
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Joe Posnanski wrote:
I mean, the triple is the most exciting play in baseball right? That means Reyes is trying to become the most exciting baseball player EVER, right?*

*My 14 most exciting players in sports list is still coming. Reyes figures to be prominent.



[url]http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/07/01/14-crazy-baseball-facts/