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Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

bmfc1 Jun 23 2011 02:08 PM

Nationals Manager Riggleman just quit.

metirish Jun 23 2011 02:10 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

bmfc1 wrote: Nationals Manager Riggleman just quit. does it still count if it's the wrong thread?

TransMonk Jun 23 2011 02:11 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

BOC! Lot's of WTFs behind the Riggleman tweets.

Ceetar Jun 23 2011 02:16 PM Riggleman fragment

So Terry is now the 27th longest tenured manager. really climbing the list fast.

G-Fafif Jun 23 2011 02:16 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

Riggleman apparently pissed about his contract situation. Midseason, team on a roll...selfish quitter would be my talk radio assessment.

Edgy DC Jun 23 2011 02:19 PM Re: Inter-League O-o-T-S

Whoah! Nice play, Jim Riggleman. Way to go out. Now he's one step closer to replacing Joe Girardi.

TransMonk Jun 23 2011 02:19 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

What a deflating event for the players on the team. You win 11 out of 12 and are over .500, then your manager quits. What a dipshit.

metirish Jun 23 2011 02:21 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

His Wikipedia page is updated already , maybe he did that first and then quit. I bet he'll be manager with another MLB team but the ALL-Star break.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 23 2011 02:22 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

bmfc1 wrote: Nationals Manager Riggleman just quit. Crazy, man. Hopefully they hire Jerry Manuel.

TransMonk Jun 23 2011 02:24 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

And not Bobby V.

metirish Jun 23 2011 02:25 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

Rizzo could be the dipshit here right?

G-Fafif Jun 23 2011 02:25 PM Riggleman fragment

Riggleman is one play-in game from 13 years ago removed from being Dave Bristol credentialswise, yet he's being hailed as Vince Lombardi industrywide.

Frayed Knot Jun 23 2011 02:29 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

G-Fafif wrote: Riggleman apparently pissed about his contract situation. Midseason, team on a roll...selfish quitter would be my talk radio assessment. Except that Riggleman works in Washington and so the talk radio take on his situation will be ... that one of the Redskins ordered waffles for breakfast rather than his usual pancakes and what that means for the upcoming season.

bmfc1 Jun 23 2011 02:29 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Nationals Manager Riggleman just quit. Crazy, man. Hopefully they hire Jerry Manuel. Excellent.

TransMonk Jun 23 2011 02:30 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Rizzo may be a dipshit too, but as a major league manager, you are a leader of men...and to quit on them is pretty shitty. Yeah, Riggleman probably deserved some joib security and compensation, but he's already got a contract for this season...fight those battles in the offseason.

TransMonk Jun 23 2011 02:30 PM Re: IGT - Thurs 6/23 Oakland @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Riggleman apparently pissed about his contract situation. Midseason, team on a roll...selfish quitter would be my talk radio assessment. Except that Riggleman works in Washington and so the talk radio take on his situation will be ... that one of the Redskins ordered waffles for breakfast rather than his usual pancakes and what that means for the upcoming season. Those 17 Nationals fans will be pissed.

Edgy DC Jun 23 2011 02:32 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

I support him. His bluff was called and he had to follow through. It's unlikely he'll ever be in a better position this season.

G-Fafif Jun 23 2011 02:33 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Picturing Riggleman and Edwin Rodriguez bumping into each other. "Hey Edwin, I heard you resigned." "Yeah, I couldn't take the constant losing. What about you?" "I couldn't take the constant winning." "Go fuck yourself."

bmfc1 Jun 23 2011 02:39 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

I wonder if he's on his way to the Marlins. Jim Bowden tweeted that this is the end of Riggleman's managerial career.

Edgy DC Jun 23 2011 02:43 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

When Mr. Riggleman gets upset, people DIE!

metirish Jun 23 2011 02:58 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Sherman can't help himself, he's an asshole Who is advising Riggelman: 1) The Mets. 2) Tiki Barber. 3) A-Rod. That move was so dumb, what could Plan B have been #Nationals

attgig Jun 23 2011 04:03 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

craziness. craziness craziness... maybe rizzo is trying to make the nats lose, so he can trade off the expensive guys and build for the future...

bmfc1 Jun 23 2011 05:59 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Hopefully they won't hire Davey--he's on the Nationals payroll.

metirish Jun 23 2011 07:00 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Bench coach John McCLaren takes over , looking at his wiki page I notice he like Roggleman was born in Fort Dix.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 23 2011 10:20 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

bmfc1 wrote: I wonder if he's on his way to the Marlins. Jim Bowden tweeted that this is the end of Riggleman's managerial career. Bowden should know what that sort of thing looks like.

HahnSolo Jun 24 2011 06:42 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

There is a certain ex-major league skipper in the Nats' front office with whom we are all quite familiar. And he wouldn't even be the oldest manager in the division.

metirish Jun 24 2011 06:56 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

HahnSolo wrote: There is a certain ex-major league skipper in the Nats' front office with whom we are all quite familiar. And he wouldn't even be the oldest manager in the division. apparently he is very tight with Riggleman and is sensitive to that , McClaren is a "very interim" manager until they can get someone for the remainder of the season.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 24 2011 07:04 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

What the hell... I'll do it.

metirish Jun 24 2011 07:07 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Benjamin Grimm wrote: What the hell... I'll do it. I like it......shoot, bring back the head of Ted Williams , it would tie in nicely with the history there and it's not like he could look any worse in uniform than McKeon.

Edgy DC Jun 24 2011 07:37 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Also worth noting is that the Nats, reeling from a previous regime that allowed an out-of-control scouting and development system to fester, have lost two minor leaguers in six days to drug-policy suspensions.

HahnSolo Jun 24 2011 08:28 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

I heard Riggleman on the FAN with Craig Carton this morning (good and surprising get for Carton, BTW), and it sounds like he was most irked by the fact that Rizzo got a 5-year extension after last season, and he got nada.

G-Fafif Jun 24 2011 08:47 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

HahnSolo wrote: I heard Riggleman on the FAN with Craig Carton this morning (good and surprising get for Carton, BTW), and it sounds like he was most irked by the fact that Rizzo got a 5-year extension after last season, and he got nada. I think Riggleman's on a damage control tour. He did Francesa after the Mets game last evening.

G-Fafif Jun 24 2011 08:49 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Received an e-mail from mlb.com a little while ago with the following header: Manage a MLB Team on Facebook I wonder if Riggleman received it, too -- and if he unsubscribed immediately.

TransMonk Jun 24 2011 08:54 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

I agree with the SI guy that says his major league career is finished. Both parties were being stubborn and child-like in this situation, but Riggleman does not have the career winning track record to justify "demanding" a contract extention. Sorry, Jim. There is a reason you were managing the Nats on such a short leash. Respect for a manager is usually dictated by a history of winning, not on how old you are.

Fman99 Jun 24 2011 07:04 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

ESPN reporting that Davey Johnson will be tapped as skipper. Last managed the 2000 Dodgers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 24 2011 07:08 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Dam Nit.

metirish Jun 24 2011 07:32 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Isn't it a good thing that Davey is back in the dugout? , I understand the affection with which he is held but good for him.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 24 2011 08:40 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

I suppose. I worry a lot more about a Nats team with that talent if it's got a guy like Davey pushing the buttons for it.

Frayed Knot Jun 24 2011 08:45 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

John McLaren has just been tossed out of what may prove to be his only game as Nationals manager. Tough to blame him. On a tag play the 1st base ump's out call was over-ruled by the home plate ump. Probably a correct over-rule, but I don't know if I've ever seen a judgement call overturned like that.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2011 04:53 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

metirish wrote: Isn't it a good thing that Davey is back in the dugout? , I understand the affection with which he is held but good for him. Well, yeah. But if he was interested in managing again, I would have preferred him to be doing it in Queens.

Edgy DC Jun 25 2011 05:57 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

A young team he can mold to his vision might get him going again, but I got the feeling that the fire had gone out of his belly in recent years.

Frayed Knot Jun 25 2011 06:26 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Davey long claimed he was no longer interested in managing. Now, not only is he apparently going to take this job, but rumor has it it's NOT going to be merely to fill out the season as he's going to be snagging the three-year deal that the team famously refused to give to Riggleman.

Edgy DC Jun 28 2011 09:56 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Johnson loses his debut 4-3 to the Angels. I'm suspecting that Johnson was the Nats target all along, and moreover, I suspect that Riggleman suspected it.

Vic Sage Jun 28 2011 10:19 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

my strongest 'huzzah's go out to anybody who feels like they're getting screwed by their boss and has the wherewithal to tell them to take their job and shove it. I wish i felt free to do so.

bmfc1 Jun 28 2011 10:50 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2011 11:40 AM

I thought that Wally would leave Binghamton to become Davey's bench coach but that job belongs to Pat Corrales.

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2011 11:35 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Edgy DC wrote: Johnson loses his debut 4-3 to the Angels. Although the Nats continue to get an amazing number of late HRs. Last night it was a 2-out 9th inning solo HR to tie the game by 2B Danny Espinosa one day after he won a game with a 2R HR in the 7th. They lost last night's game in the 10th but have had just 9 hits combined over the last three games but have been in every game (going 1-2) because four of those hits have been HRs and they've been getting great starting pitching almost every night. They're like the anti-Mets of late. I'm suspecting that Johnson was the Nats target all along, and moreover, I suspect that Riggleman suspected it. Or, if not Davey, then their target was at least a guy named 'Not Jim Riggleman'. Not sure that would be enough for me to lose approx 400K over and probably kill any chance of ever getting the same job back all on account of not getting the job you've got this June guaranteed through next September ... but that's his call not mine.

Ceetar Jun 28 2011 11:42 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Frayed Knot wrote: They're like the anti-Mets of late. I'm suspecting that Johnson was the Nats target all along, and moreover, I suspect that Riggleman suspected it. Or, if not Davey, then their target was at least a guy named 'Not Jim Riggleman'. Not sure that would be enough for me to lose approx 400K over and probably kill any chance of ever getting the same job back all on account of not getting the job you've got this June guaranteed through next September ... but that's his call not mine. On the other hand, in terms of his qualifications he really quit while he was ahead at what's probably going to be right around the high-water mark for the Nats. He'll be credited with getting them going, and if/when they fall back down it won't be his fault.

Edgy DC Jun 28 2011 11:43 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Yeah, that might be part of his thinking. Don't know if other employers will see it as such, but...

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2011 11:53 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

On the other hand, in terms of his qualifications he really quit while he was ahead at what's probably going to be right around the high-water mark for the Nats. He'll be credited with getting them going, and if/when they fall back down it won't be his fault. I too suspect some of their "luck" is going to run out soon ... BUT - Ryan Zimmerman is now back after missing almost the entire season until last week - Werth may never be Werth his contract but he also can't hit this bad forever - and they'll probably see Strasburg before the end of the year In the meantime, Espinosa at 2B has 15 HRs; Morse, now at 1B after LaRoche went down for the year, has 15 also in part-time duty; their defense is much improved; Ramos is a legit catcher; Marquis and Jordan Zimmermann are both healthy and they've got a ton of good arms in the pen. IOW, I wouldn't count on them automatically turning back into pumpkins any time soon.

Ceetar Jun 28 2011 12:05 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Not saying they're gonna lose the rest of their games, but I'd be surprised if they finish this high too.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 28 2011 12:39 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

The Optimistic Nationals Fan would disagree with you.

G-Fafif Jun 28 2011 12:50 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

When I saw Davey Johnson's team lost last night, my reflex reaction was "damn," until I remembered who Davey Johnson's team was. Kind of like Piazza's first game at Shea as a Padre. He got on and I instinctively urged the next batter, Adrian Gonzalez, to bring him home...until I remembered Adrian Gonzalez wasn't a Met. Still, I wish Davey well. I know he was wondering what I wished him.

Frayed Knot Jun 29 2011 12:30 PM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

So a day after I was praising how well the Nationals are playing they seemed to revert to their old ways: Marquis pitched poorly last night against the not great hitting Angels, the infield chipped in with five errors, and the bullpen (although not their top guys) got smacked around to make it a rout - all of which means that the Davey Johnson era is off to an 0-2 start.

Frayed Knot Jul 07 2011 09:38 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

Tied in the 7th last night with one out and a runner on 3rd, Davey calls for a first-pitch suicide squeeze. So lumbering down the line comes big ol' Mike Morse except that the batter - catcher Wilson Ramos - misses the sign and swings away!! Morse hangs a quick right into foul territory but fortunately, both for Morse's health and the Nats' strategy, Ramos fouled the ball straight back. But Davey wasn't about to let one failure get in the way of a good strategy, so two pitches later he puts the same play back on and Ramos/Morse pulled it off perfectly. Nats win by that one run.

Edgy DC Jul 07 2011 09:44 AM Re: Riggleman Quits (split from 6/23 IGT)

It's not helping matters that Jayson Werth is playing awful. The other night, he went 0 for 3 with two strikeouts against Ramon F. Ortiz. That's after making comments that helped undermine Riggleman, who did everything to get the guy going this year.