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Totally Missed This
| Edgy DC Jun 27 2011 12:55 PM |
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It happens when you're at work and following the game at the same time, but I missed the report that the ejection of Elvis Andrus yesterday, which was reported in the radio booth two innings after the fact, was the result of Terry Collins being given the option of which Ranger to toss, as the umps felt the whole bench was out of line. Terry, being sporting (and probably somewhat humbled by the breaks he was getting) chose a reserve infielder who was probably too injured to play anyhow.
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| Ceetar Jun 27 2011 01:06 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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that's weird.
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| Edgy DC Jun 27 2011 01:08 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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I have to say, I'm not sure this is true. All the sources that are confirming it so far are secondary fan-journalism type sources.
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| Ceetar Jun 27 2011 01:14 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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I kind of doubt it too, but who knows. I do know that if you're on the DL you're not allowed to benchjockey.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 27 2011 01:15 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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Sounds fishy to me. I would think that in such a situation, the ump would send all non-playing players to the clubhouse, to be summoned if needed.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 27 2011 01:16 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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Had to have been an act of good sportsmanship.
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| Edgy DC Jun 27 2011 01:19 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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And how do you enforce that, except by kicking out active players?
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| Ceetar Jun 27 2011 01:22 PM Re: Totally Missed This Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 27 2011 01:25 PM |
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I don't remember the punishment. looked it up. Basically ejection. Which doesn't really do much besides banish him from the bench.
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| metirish Jun 27 2011 01:22 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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I didn't see the whole game, what happened?
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| Edgy DC Jun 27 2011 01:24 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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Really, everything about yesterday was weird. Do you realize (I imagine you do) that the Mets took a series while being outhomered 7-0?
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| metirish Jun 27 2011 01:25 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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yes but they had like 700 singles right?
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| Edgy DC Jun 27 2011 01:40 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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Yeah, and also the twin blessings of perhaps four-five unjustly benevolent calls and a superduperstar held out of the rubber game, while carrying a starter pulled early with an achey-breaky heart, a closer pitching lousy, and Bay-Hairston-Turner coming up empty against Holland in that game three, plus the aforementioned power outage.* I don't know, but I feel like they got outplayed by both Oakland and Texas, and somehow came up with the series both times. The team still seems to be looking for answers. They're just managing to find a series of temporary ones right now.
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| Ceetar Jun 27 2011 01:45 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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That's fine. I feel like they've outplayed some teams, like the Phillies in some cases, and lost. And they did get a lot of near misses with home runs
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| soupcan Jun 27 2011 01:47 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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From The New York Times article this morning:
Bit of a different version to say the least.
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| Frayed Knot Jun 27 2011 01:54 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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Yeah, and the designated (by the opposition no less) ejectee stuff sounds like hooey to me.
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| 86-Dreamer Jun 27 2011 02:04 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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here is Newsday's version: The Reyes call got Texas manager Ron Washington riled up, and he reached his boiling point in the sixth inning, when he was thrown out along with Elvis Andrus. The annoyed Washington came out to argue with plate umpire Andy Fletcher after Murphy's RBI double, and Fletcher also was angered by someone on the Texas bench. Fletcher informed them that someone had to go and the Rangers picked Andrus, who did not start and was not playing. Collins had a discussion with Fletcher about it and later said the umpire settled for the wrong guy. "I knew who the one guy was that was yelling and I wanted to make sure he was the guy they threw out," Collins said. "They didn't know and I did. I wanted him out of the game." Collins said it was Young, who had tormented his team all weekend. But after Andrus was tossed, DH Young gave a knowing nod to Collins on his way to the plate. "I was tired of watching him hit the ball out of the ballpark," Collins said.
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| Vic Sage Jun 27 2011 02:41 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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yeah, because that's how that works.
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| Ceetar Jun 27 2011 02:47 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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Duda rocked one three inches from the top of the wall. fraction of an inch lower and it clears the fence, a fraction of a second faster and it clears the fence more to the right. There were a couple of other hard hit balls that went far. It's not like they were just stringing singles.
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| Vic Sage Jun 27 2011 02:53 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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and if it had wheels and was painted yellow, it would be a school bus. Ceetar, you're a wonder at talking about things that didn't happen as evidence as to why they will, but not so hot with actual events, especially if they conflict with the pre-written narrative of hope and miracles you've got going on in your head.
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| Ceetar Jun 27 2011 02:59 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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A scorcher off the wall is not the same thing as a single. It represents power, even if it didn't clear the fence. He hit the crap out of the ball, it was nearly the Grand Slam in long time. (and it also wasn't his only XBH of the day) The ability to tattoo the wall with doubles is much more suggestive that a guy is capable of hitting some home runs and likely will, than it is that he's a singles hitter and the Mets got lucky to win the series.
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| seawolf17 Jun 27 2011 06:59 PM Re: Totally Missed This |
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I was too busy being excited about winning Texas brisket from my Rangers fan friend in Abilene. Yum!
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| Edgy DC Jun 28 2011 05:15 AM Re: Totally Missed This |
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I'm also sort of surprised there was no off-day news yesterday. I kind of got the impression that if Francsico Rodriguez was auditioning for the Rangers on Sunday and failed.
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| Ceetar Jun 28 2011 06:13 AM Re: Totally Missed This |
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Yesterday was really slow it seemed. Summer doldrums?
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| bmfc1 Jun 28 2011 06:45 AM Re: Totally Missed This |
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It was nice to have a day without news of a Met injury, team finances or somebody saying something stupid. The only newsy item I heard was Ed Coleman telling Steve Somers that David Wright could be available before the ASB but it would make sense to hold him back until after the ASB.
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| Edgy DC Jun 28 2011 06:52 AM Re: Totally Missed This |
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I just really expected a transaction.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 28 2011 07:13 AM Re: Totally Missed This |
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Tracky wrote an off-day profile of Dillon Gee, painting him as a clever guy who knows how to succeed. Like Bobby Parnell, Dillon is the son of a firefighter.
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| Ceetar Jun 28 2011 07:14 AM Re: Totally Missed This |
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I'm of two thoughts on that, I think they should get him back here, and he wants to be back here, sooner rather than later, but I think one of the big mistakes they made last year was bringing Castillo and Beltran back immediately after the break. Beltran got 4 days off after rehab, and then jumped right into MLB pitching. That seems a rough transition, and is it really any surprise that they struggled? With the extra day off you could have Wright play in AAA on Thursday before bringin him up. Of course, do you want the first three pitchers he faces in the majors to be Halladay, Lee, Hamels?
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| bmfc1 Jun 28 2011 07:24 AM Re: Totally Missed This |
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Good point Ceetar. Why activate him to face Linecum and Cain (the guy that beaned him) then have him rest for 4 days (he'd probably skip the ASG but go anyway to sit) when he could be in the minors facing real pitching. There's no way around the MFPs staff unless he "needs" another few days of rehab games.
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| Ceetar Jun 28 2011 07:31 AM Re: Totally Missed This |
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Well, Bisons are off M-T-W too. No guarentee it's Lincey and Cain to finish off that series. It's also 20 straight games without an off day after the break, which seems harsh.
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