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On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht


"Baby Come Back" - Player 1 votes

"Baby, Come To Me" - James Ingram & Patti Austin 0 votes

"Biggest Part of Me" - Ambrosia 0 votes

"Escape (The Piņa Colada Song)" - Rupert Holmes 1 votes

"How Long" - Ace 3 votes

"Human Nature" - Michael Jackson 1 votes

"I Keep Forgettin'" - Michael McDonald 0 votes

"I'd Really Love to See You Tonight" - England Dan & John Ford Coley 0 votes

"I'm Not In Love" - 10cc 3 votes

"If You Leave Me Now" - Chicago 1 votes

"Just Remember I Love You" - Firefall 0 votes

"Key Largo" - Bertie Higgins 1 votes

"Love Will Find A Way" - Pablo Cruise 0 votes

"Rosanna" - Toto 1 votes

"Sailing" - Christopher Cross 1 votes

"Steal Away" - Robbie Dupree 0 votes

"Still the One" - Orleans 2 votes

"Summer Breeze" - Seals & Croft 3 votes

"This is It" - Kenny Loggins & Michael McDonald 0 votes

"What a Fool Believes" - The Doobie Brothers 2 votes

Willets Point
Jun 24 2011 12:28 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 24 2011 06:54 PM

If you had a yacht, you could steal away to a desert island, sailing to your own escape whenever you like. Sadly, the yacht has a ruptured hull and lays under 30 feet of water. You're not getting off this island. Your only consolation is that your desert island mix tape has one of the smooooothest songs ever to ease your mind - Yacht Rock.

Which of these 70's & 80's soft rock classics will you listen to stave off thoughts of dehydration and contemplating which of your desert island companions you are going to eat first?

"Baby Come Back" - Player
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]Hn-enjcgV1o[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Baby, Come To Me" - James Ingram & Patti Austin
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]UxKCUgC-gQw[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Biggest Part of Me" - Ambrosia
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]bOm0Dq_kKNU[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Escape (The Piņa Colada Song)" - Rupert Holmes
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]Ntnt6PeQqGQ[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"How Long" - Ace
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]qGHiGLqhFfY[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Human Nature" - Michael Jackson
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]6BlKDXmdiUQ[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"I Keep Forgettin'" - Michael McDonald
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]wvEpsDNQ75g[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"I'd Really Love to See You Tonight" - England Dan & John Ford Coley
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]jxdsk-cFX-k[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"I'm Not In Love" - 10cc
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]2rgepWg4rzw[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"If You Leave Me Now" - Chicago
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]j1ykMNtzMT8[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Just Remember I Love You" - Firefall
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]Lt6lYiKcik8[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Key Largo" - Bertie Higgins
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]Ru2tsT32pHA[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Love Will Find A Way" - Pablo Cruise
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]H9sbA2gnWHI[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Rosanna" - Toto
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]Gq4ychrRkQA[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Sailing" - Christopher Cross
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]VMkIuKXwmlU[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Steal Away" - Robbie Dupree
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]7OvmY1s--kQ[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Still the One" - Orleans
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]SbH_sDyWZqo[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"Summer Breeze" - Seals & Croft
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]MsW8rXPcnM0[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"This is It" - Kenny Loggins & Michael McDonald
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]d7-e6Yhu5SU[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]
"What a Fool Believes" - The Doobie Brothers
[youtube:2s2xq9ch]jXRRMPQm4zU[/youtube:2s2xq9ch]

I tried to limit to 1 song per artist/group but Michael McDonald kept popping up everywhere. Feel free to add a write-in if these are not smooth enough for you.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 24 2011 12:40 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 24 2011 12:43 PM

Many of these artists are good candidates for DiMTs of their own.

I didn't know MJ was a Yachtrocker. And no Kenny Loggins?!? (EDIT -- oh, doh, there is Loggins. Nevermind)

This is a hard one, but it's going to be really hard to vote against Summer Breeze. It makes me feel fine.

Edgy DC
Jun 24 2011 12:43 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Loggins gets "This Is It."

What's amazing is the equivelantness of those songs. None really sore above the rest. None stink below. They all cluster around a comfotable WTFM mean. I went for "I'm Not in Love." When I was young, I didn't get that it was sung in irony, and I felt smart the day I realized it. I contratulated myself for being savvy to 10cc's clever soft rock ways.

TransMonk
Jun 24 2011 12:43 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

"What A Fool Believes" started it all in Episode One, no?

[youtube:193eydev]jMTI8vg7A5U[/youtube:193eydev]

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 24 2011 12:52 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

I've only lately begun to discover and appreciate the considerable talents of Graham Gouldman who wrote "I'm Not in Love" and no less than 100 million other great songs. And that song IS clever, very haunting if you listen to the delicate background harmonies, and unlike most of the others on this list and elsewhere for that matter.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Gouldman

seawolf17
Jun 24 2011 02:03 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

"Sailing." LOVE that tune.

sharpie
Jun 24 2011 02:45 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

"I'm Not In Love."

By a mile. I was a big 10cc fan back in the day.

Frayed Knot
Jun 24 2011 03:10 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

'How Long' - on the strength of its great vocals.

I remember liking 'Summer Breeze' when I was a kid.
I was even a 'Chicago' fan years back but 'If You Leave Me' was well into their jump the shark era.
10CC and Toto are acceptable but neither song was a particular favorite.
Not much to say about the rest of the lineup.

Chad Ochoseis
Jun 24 2011 03:15 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

I voted for "How Long", too. More interesting lyrics than the others, better vocals, vaguely subversive unsmooth beat beneath the smoothness.

Honorable mention to Seals & Crofts. I'm not sure why. Maybe because my mom liked them when I was a kid. I usually conflate them with England Dan and John Ford Coley.

You could fit a good chunk of the Wings oeuvre on this list. "Listen to What the Man Said" definitely belongs up there.

G-Fafif
Jun 24 2011 04:09 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

I'm gonna need a drink on my yacht. Oh, Rupert!

Frayed Knot
Jun 24 2011 04:16 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Is that Paul Carrack in the 'How Long' video?
Not sure I ever knew what he looked like and the singing there sounds a bit off from his usual powerhouse vocals. Plus he spent enough time as a voice-for-hire in so many bands that a lot of times stuff he originally sang was part of a band's catalog long after he was somewhere else.



Also I should put in a good word for 'Still the One' and 'What a Fool Believes'. I dismissed much of this list a bit too quickly in my earlier statement.
Still sticking with 'How Long' though.

Willets Point
Jun 24 2011 07:33 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I didn't know MJ was a Yachtrocker.


"Human Nature" is a Yacht Rock crossover, composed by a member of Toto.

Edgy DC wrote:
What's amazing is the equivocalness of those songs. None really sore above the rest. None stink below. They all cluster around a comfortable WTFM mean.


Everything is so smooooothed out that nothing sticks up.

Chad Ochoseis wrote:
You could fit a good chunk of the Wings oeuvre on this list. "Listen to What the Man Said" definitely belongs up there.


Yeah, I also had some songs from the Yacht Rock eras of The Eagles and Steely Dan on the list originally but pared it down to (mostly) bands that were career Yacht Rockers.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 24 2011 07:58 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

"Hello, yeah, it's been a while
Not much, how 'bout you
It's been such a long time
And I really do miss your smile"

England Dan and John Ford had a classic telephone song!

I like "Keep Forgettin" and "Still the One" and "Rosanna," but had to go with "Really Love to See You Tonight."

Gwreck
Jun 24 2011 10:30 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Frayed Knot wrote:
Is that Paul Carrack in the 'How Long' video?


Indeed. Singing the song, too. Which is why it's the best choice here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 24 2011 11:52 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Still internally debating here.

But I'll be damned if that Bertie Higgins doesn't have the Yacht-Rockiest video of the bunch.

Edgy DC
Jun 25 2011 05:37 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Chad Ochoseis wrote:
Honorable mention to Seals & Crofts. I'm not sure why. Maybe because my mom liked them when I was a kid. I usually conflate them with England Dan and John Ford Coley.

If you can triangulate a sound withiin three acts acting as corners on a triangle, you've got a subgenre. The soft rock singer songwriter duo sound is triangulated within Seals & Croft, Loggins & Messina, and England Dan and John Ford Coley. I don't know if they all used ampersands, but I feel like the ampersand is an important part of the genre. Big, gorgeous, nineteenth centure, western nouveau ampersands.

Willets Point
Jun 25 2011 07:33 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:

But I'll be damned if that Bertie Higgins doesn't have the Yacht-Rockiest video of the bunch.


I thought so to. That video just exudes the Yacht Rock ethos. It's almost like they started out trying to parody Yacht Rock and ended up making an homage.

I wasn't able to find the original videos for a lot of these. "Sailing" is still the cornerstone of Yacht Rock, so I wonder how literal they made the video.

Edgy DC
Jun 25 2011 07:40 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

If we're looking for defining acts, well, the Captain and Tennille were (a) late 70s, (b) a duo, and (c) featured a guy dressed as a yachtsman, for crying out loud.

cooby
Jun 25 2011 08:07 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Very nice pool. I kept thinking "yeah that one" and then I saw Summer Breeze and the rest were all just contenders.

metirish
Jun 25 2011 09:00 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Can't beleive over 24 hours in and I am the first vote for Rosanna , great song..

Meet you all the way, meet you all the way, Rosanna yeah

themetfairy
Jun 25 2011 09:17 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

metsguyinmichigan wrote:
"Hello, yeah, it's been a while
Not much, how 'bout you
It's been such a long time
And I really do miss your smile"

England Dan and John Ford had a classic telephone song!

I like "Keep Forgettin" and "Still the One" and "Rosanna," but had to go with "Really Love to See You Tonight."


I chose Key Largo because, frankly, I overlooked this choice. I like Key Largo, but I've always loved this one.

G-Fafif
Jun 26 2011 12:50 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Can't beleive over 24 hours in and I am the first vote for Rosanna , great song..

Meet you all the way, meet you all the way, Rosanna yeah


"Rosanna": My eighth-favorite song of all-time, but in the context of this scenario, I'm really going to need that Piņa Colada.

Partial to most of these songs, and I've always felt vaguely proprietary about "Key Largo" since Bertie Higgins is from the Tampa area and he broke when I was college freshman there. I'm just delighted someone made a music poll for the perpetually uncool among us.

cooby
Jun 26 2011 12:42 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I've only lately begun to discover and appreciate the considerable talents of Graham Gouldman who wrote "I'm Not in Love" and no less than 100 million other great songs. And that song IS clever, very haunting if you listen to the delicate background harmonies, and unlike most of the others on this list and elsewhere for that matter.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Gouldman



A perfect description of a beautiful song

Fman99
Jun 26 2011 07:54 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

These are some smoothies, like, get your bananas and strawberries and yogurt out type stuff. I went with "What a Fool Believes," despite the fact that it is really the only Doobie Brothers' song featuring Michael McDonald that I like.

It's a toe tapper, it is.

Ashie62
Jun 26 2011 09:21 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

10 CC..Solid songwriters always.

TheOldMole
Jun 26 2011 10:09 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Well, you know who I voted for.

Edgy DC
Jun 27 2011 04:23 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

We're gonna need a bigger yacht.

Willets Point
Jun 27 2011 07:17 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

I can't get these songs out of my head!!!

TheOldMole
Jun 27 2011 10:42 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

LOL Edgy.

Willets Point
Jun 27 2011 11:03 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

TheOldMole wrote:
LOL Edgy.


Edgy has been on fire in this thread.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 27 2011 11:51 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Is anyone else made irrationally angry by Rupert Holmes' "Escape?"

Along with any and all Jimmy Buffett, it kinda puts me in that baby-punching-rampage kind of mental space.

themetfairy
Jun 27 2011 12:21 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Is anyone else made irrationally angry by Rupert Holmes' "Escape?"

Along with any and all Jimmy Buffett, it kinda puts me in that baby-punching-rampage kind of mental space.


Because these two cheating asswipes find out that they're made for each other?

I guess they deserve each other, but yeah - two lying scumbags realizing that they're made for each other isn't my idea of a happy ending.

Willets Point
Jun 27 2011 12:29 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

I'm just annoyed by his repeated use and enunciation of "my lay-day".

Edgy DC
Jun 27 2011 12:33 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

"Escape" feels a little herky-jerky syncopated compared to the other tracks. That and "Rosanna" feel a little off-center in this poll. Sort of like cousins among siblings. "Still the One," also, doesn't quite feel... muted enough.

If we're allowing non-1970s material, I would include "You Can Do Magic" by America and "Touch Me When We're Dancing" by the Carpenters. Both 1980-ish efforts and the last hits for the respective bands, allowing them to arrive stylishly late to this 1975-1978-ish party.

Willets Point
Jun 27 2011 03:11 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

There are definitely songs from the 80s in this poll.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 27 2011 03:42 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

What oughta happen is a vote off between top 3 or 4, don't allow write-ins.

Ashie62
Jun 27 2011 04:11 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

10CC ..currently being used as Edgy's signature line..

Edgy DC
Jun 27 2011 06:55 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Indeed it its. And click that 10cc video link and get the psychedelic passage in place of the first bridge that the radio doesn't have the guts to play.

Click it... just because...

Willets Point
Jun 27 2011 07:08 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
What oughta happen is a vote off between top 3 or 4, don't allow write-ins.


Will do. I'll leave this open for a couple of days. I haven't even voted myself.

G-Fafif
Jun 27 2011 08:35 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

"Touch Me When We're Dancing" is an understated beauty. The cover by Alabama also softly kicks ass.

Of everything here, the one that screams "mellow" (or whispers it) is "If You Leave Me Now," Chicago's first No. 1 hit...and the one that doesn't sound like any of its previous hits, save perhaps for "Colour My World".

A bar called O'Malley's...always made me think of the Regal Beagle.

Willets Point
Jun 27 2011 08:53 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Chicago is one of those bands that seems like two completely different bands going from their jazzy/funky sometimes psychedelic, sometime political early years and the remolding themselves around Petera Cetera's tenor and tender love ballads. The Doobie Brothers made a similar transition when Michael McDonald came on board. Other bands that I can think of that completely revamped themselves are Genesis and Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship/Starship (although the latter at least changed their name to acknowledge the difference). I don't know, maybe they evolved gradually, but in hindsight the difference between the early and later eras of all of these bands is stark.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 27 2011 09:03 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

In the case of Chicago, there was a bullet involved. Most of those others also involve personnel changes.

Journey journeyed from prog-jazz fusion to piano-ballad-arena-cheese.

Alice Cooper, Rush & Yes new-waved themselves when appropriate.

David Bowie is just like, a chameleon, man.

Edgy DC
Jun 28 2011 07:28 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

ELO from 10-piece studio-centered orchestral art rock to five-pieced campy synthetic disco. A lot of not-yet-old bands in the late seventies were confronted by new wave, punk and disco, and didn't know which way to to zag.

The Who before and after Woodstock is really two different bands also, albeit with the same lineup.

G-Fafif
Jun 28 2011 01:14 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Shea's A/V squad played "This Is It" shortly before the final game of the 2007 season. Struck me as very meta-. Naturally, I can't hear it anymore without shuddering over the events of 9/30/07.

Willets Point
Jun 29 2011 09:05 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

I finally voted in my own poll and went with Player. I have distinct memories of riding home from my Grandparents' place in Brooklyn in the back seat of my father's cavernous Chevy Nova with "Baby Come Back" lulling me to sleep as we bumped along the BQE. Music always sounds better when you're drifting off to sleep.

I'm going to close this poll at the end of the work day and put up the Yacht Rock Deathmatch poll to find a clear winner.

Edgy DC
Jun 29 2011 09:19 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Extra points to "Sailing" and "Key Largo" for literally invoking yachtsmanship. "Escape" also incudes lyrics abouts making love in the dunes by the Cape, which, presumably would offer fine views of yachts. "Summer Breeze" has no aquatic lyrics, but how are you going to sail without a "Summer Breeze"? You're not, that's how.

"Cool Change," e-mailed me a complaint of unjust disclusion from this poll. "You had your chance in the Little River band poll, you loser," I replied, but I promised I pass on the grievance.

TheOldMole
Jun 29 2011 09:59 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

I hate "Escape," but come on, guys, they're not married. They've been dating, and they're starting to drift apart.

G-Fafif
Jun 29 2011 10:42 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

TheOldMole wrote:
I hate "Escape," but come on, guys, they're not married. They've been dating, and they're starting to drift apart.


I agree. They've been together too long. Like a worn-out recording of "Him," my favorite Rupert Holmes song.

[youtube]tUygQh0iaf8[/youtube]

Willets Point
Jun 29 2011 11:00 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

[youtube:1wk8ra67]LTkulXMkx_0[/youtube:1wk8ra67]

G-Fafif
Jun 29 2011 11:10 AM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

[youtube:28xsoq6z]vXpSoAHGDh8[/youtube:28xsoq6z]

Willets Point
Jun 29 2011 12:17 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

When I saw SCTV in this thread, I thought it was going to be this clip:
[youtube:3elge638]HDojwQ8cJC4[/youtube:3elge638]

G-Fafif
Jun 29 2011 12:28 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

That one floored me when I first saw it 30 years ago. "YES! THAT'S EXACTLY IT WITH THAT GUY FROM THE DOOBIE BROTHERS BEING IN EVERYBODY'S SONGS!"

What a great show. (As was MST3K.)

Willets Point
Jun 29 2011 12:46 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Gwreck wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Is that Paul Carrack in the 'How Long' video?


Indeed. Singing the song, too. Which is why it's the best choice here.


I was thinking Paul Carrack was the guy who sang "Every Time You Go Away" but I looked it up and that was Paul Young. Thing is, both Pauls were in Mike + the Mechanics! Freakin' incestuous these yacht rockers be.

Edgy DC
Jun 29 2011 01:21 PM
Re: On a Desert Island, You're Gonna Want a Yacht

Paul Carrack is blue-eyed soul, not a yacht rocker, but an older relative of yacht rock.