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IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Edgy DC Jul 13 2011 11:53 AM

Probables: 1. Roillins, ss 2. Mayberry, cf (or Polanco, 3b) 3. Utley, 2b 4. Howard, 1b 5. Ibanez, lf 6. Ruiz, c 7. Brown, rf 8. Valdez/Martinez, 3b (or Mayberry, cf) 9. Worley, p 1. Pagan, cf 2. Turner, 2b 3. Beltran, rf 4. Murphy, 3b 5. Bay, lf 6. Duda, 1b 7. Thole, c 8. Tejada, ss 9. Dickey, p

Frayed Knot Jul 13 2011 11:56 AM Re: Bastille Day IGT 7/14/2011, Phils @ Mets

Except, ummm, we won't play again until the 15th.

Edgy DC Jul 13 2011 11:57 AM Re: Bastille Day IGT 7/14/2011, Phils @ Mets

Yeah, well, I meant that.

Ceetar Jul 13 2011 12:05 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Worley's pitching? I hadn't really looked ahead yet. Why? Not that I'm complaining, if I'm gonna sit (513, row 6) in the stands for pyrotechnics night and watch the Mets, I'd rather them face Worley.

Edgy DC Jul 13 2011 12:11 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

He's on the schedule. That's all I know.

sharpie Jul 13 2011 12:20 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

But if Worley pitches then our grandchildren won't get to hear tell of how we were there when the Mets set the all-time record for most consecutive games facing an All-Star pitcher.

Gwreck Jul 13 2011 12:27 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: Worley's pitching? http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/ne ... p?c_id=phi

bmfc1 Jul 13 2011 12:31 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Worley's pitching?

TransMonk Jul 13 2011 12:33 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Ceetar Jul 13 2011 12:51 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Gwreck wrote: Worley's pitching? http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/ne ... p?c_id=phi Indeed, I was wondering that was merely cause he was next in the rotation or because Manuel'd announced it. Seems like he'd want to start off with Halladay-Lee again, despite the inning they threw Tuesday.

Ceetar Jul 13 2011 12:51 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

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attgig Jul 14 2011 09:31 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

this game can't come soon enough! i'm tired of all star breaks.... it almost seems like the all star break is worse torture than the baseball offseason.

TransMonk Jul 14 2011 09:35 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

The four day break is a killer. Blech.

seawolf17 Jul 14 2011 09:36 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

I remember Worley destroying the Mets, but we've faced him twice and lit him up like a Christmas tree the second time.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 14 2011 10:05 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Ah, yes. A Sunday afternoon stomping, IIRC.

A Boy Named Seo Jul 14 2011 02:45 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Shit, I thought there was a game all day today.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 14 2011 07:26 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

MFYs getting hammered in Toronto, anyway.

Ceetar Jul 14 2011 07:38 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: MFYs getting hammered in Toronto, anyway. If the shine is off the Colon, they could be in trouble.

Edgy DC Jul 14 2011 08:30 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Maybe an unanticipated side effect of the ASG no-show act is that the team pissed off the rest of their league and used up any congratulatory good will Jeter's opponents may have been allowing to creep into their cold hearts.

Ceetar Jul 14 2011 09:02 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Edgy DC wrote: Maybe an unanticipated side effect of the ASG no-show act is that the team pissed off the rest of their league and used up any congratulatory good will Jeter's opponents may have been allowing to creep into their cold hearts. Maybe, but I'd hope teams that play them regularly realize how elitist they are already, although some quotes from the Rays seem to suggest otherwise.

Frayed Knot Jul 14 2011 09:30 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: MFYs getting hammered in Toronto, anyway. 16-7 is your final. Toronto stuck up sixteen runs despite hitting ZERO HRs. And maybe I'm just paranoid, but it seems like everyone the Yanx play is suddenly missing their big star(s). So in keeping with that tradition Miguel Bautista left tonight's game with a turned ankle. He's listed as day-to-day which means he'll likely be fine once the Yanx plane clears Canadian airspace late Sunday.

Gwreck Jul 14 2011 10:41 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Jose Bautista. You might also have been confusing him with Tony Batista (remember him, with the big open stance?).

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 05:51 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Miguel's that crappy reliever the Bisons just picked up.

Fman99 Jul 15 2011 05:56 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

TransMonk wrote: The four day break is a killer. Blech. Seriously. What is this, January? Let's play fucking baseball.

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 06:02 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

4-day break means one less game Reyes misses.

TransMonk Jul 15 2011 07:42 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Predict prior to game time: 1. Who gets the save tonight? (None is an accecptable answer.) 2. David's playing five innings tonight in PSL. What's his boxscore line?

Edgy DC Jul 15 2011 07:44 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

3. Who will be wearing a beard? (Smart money says Murphy's didn't survive the break.)

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 07:46 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

TransMonk wrote: Predict prior to game time: 1. Who gets the save tonight? (None is an accecptable answer.) 2. David's playing five innings tonight in PSL. What's his boxscore line? No save. 8-1 Mets. 2. 1 AB, 1 2B, 1 R, 1 BB

Gwreck Jul 15 2011 07:48 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

David goes 0-1 with a walk in his 5 innings. Jason Isringhausen gets the save tonight.

seawolf17 Jul 15 2011 07:51 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Manny Acosta gets the save with three innings of mop-up work in a 26-3 win. Wright goes two-for-two with a pair of home runs.

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 07:56 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

seawolf17 wrote: Manny Acosta gets the save with three innings of mop-up work in a 26-3 win. Wright goes two-for-two with a pair of home runs. 26-3? Is that with or without home runs? Will I catch one if they do hit one?

attgig Jul 15 2011 08:02 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

seawolf17 wrote: Manny Acosta gets the save with three innings of mop-up work in a 26-3 win. Wright goes two-for-two with a pair of home runs. wait...who's the optimistic mets fan here? Izzy gets the save (and will keep on getting them till he gets 7 and then gets traded on the day there's supposed to be a celebration at citifield for hitting a milestone...) Wright goes 0-2 with 1K, 1BB. the other out is a foul popup.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 15 2011 08:06 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Predict prior to game time: 1. Who gets the save tonight? (None is an accecptable answer.) Izzy 2. David's playing five innings tonight in PSL. What's his boxscore line? 3111

Edgy DC Jul 15 2011 08:09 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Ha! You're all afraid of the beard question.

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 08:12 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Edgy DC wrote: Ha! You're all afraid of the beard question. Beltran. Brian Wilson convinced him to do so on the plane ride to the All-Star Game

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 15 2011 08:13 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Edgy DC wrote: 3. Who will be wearing a beard? (Smart money says Murphy's didn't survive the break.) all guys who names begin with Pee. Parnell Pelf Pagan Pridie

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2011 08:57 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

I'll go outside the box and say Byrdak gets Howard or Ibanez for the save. I'll also go outside the box and say 1-for-2 with a walk and a home run for Sugarpants. And I'm feeling generous-- Beards for everyone!

TransMonk Jul 15 2011 09:04 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Izzy gets the save for a 4-2 Mets win. Wright goes 0-2 with a walk and a K Duda's got the most scruff.

bmfc1 Jul 15 2011 12:49 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 15 2011 01:50 PM

METS: 1. Angel Pagan (S) CF 2. Justin Turner (R) 2B 3. Carlos Beltran (S) RF 4. Daniel Murphy (L) 3B 5. Jason Bay (R) LF 6. Lucas Duda (L) 1B 7. Josh Thole (L) C 8. Ruben Tejada (R) SS 9. R.A. Dickey (R) P Phillies: 1. Jimmy Rollins (S) SS 2. Michael Martinez (S) 3B 3. Chase Utley (L) 2B 4. Ryan Howard (L) 1B 5. Raul Ibanez (L) LF 6. Carlos Ruiz (R) C 7. Domonic Brown (L) RF 8. John Mayberry (R) CF 9. Vance Worley (R) P Edgy goes 9 for 9 for the Mets and 7 for 9 for the others.

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 01:23 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

512, row 6. Just about as far from Shake Shack as you could be. I was leaning towards Taco's too.

Gwreck Jul 15 2011 01:47 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

The #1 most needed improvement to Citi Field is not a change to the outfield walls but rather a second location (food court behind home plate on the promenade level?) for the Shake Shack. I'm sure there are lots of good reasons ("scarcity" increasing "popularity" or some such nonsense) why Danny Meyer and the Mets won't do this but it's just stupid. I want a freaking burger without having to wait 3 innings to get it.

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 01:55 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Gwreck wrote: The #1 most needed improvement to Citi Field is not a change to the outfield walls but rather a second location (food court behind home plate on the promenade level?) for the Shake Shack. I'm sure there are lots of good reasons ("scarcity" increasing "popularity" or some such nonsense) why Danny Meyer and the Mets won't do this but it's just stupid. I want a freaking burger without having to wait 3 innings to get it. They tried before 2010 to do so I think and for whatever reason didn't happen. Maybe a space thing? My wife usually likes shake shack but doesn't want to brave the line either. I was thinking Tacos tonight maybe. or a Keith's Burger?

Gwreck Jul 15 2011 01:57 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: They tried before 2010 to do so I think and for whatever reason didn't happen. Maybe a space thing? They never tried any such thing. They added Blue Smoke and Box Frites to the Promenade Level for 2010. There is no space concern.

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 02:01 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Gwreck wrote: Ceetar wrote: They tried before 2010 to do so I think and for whatever reason didn't happen. Maybe a space thing? They never tried any such thing. They added Blue Smoke and Box Frites to the Promenade Level for 2010. There is no space concern. talked about? I remember hearing about a second shake shack that never materialized. Maybe it was just a false rumor based on the other two. *shrug* [url]http://metspolice.com/2010/03/25/no-second-shake-shack/

themetfairy Jul 15 2011 02:12 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

If you're looking for a change of pace, the pastrami is really good!

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 02:15 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

themetfairy wrote: If you're looking for a change of pace, the pastrami is really good! Not a huge Pastrami fan. (It is good though, as far as Pastrami goes) Maybe a knish?

Gwreck Jul 15 2011 02:39 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: I remember hearing about a second shake shack that never materialized. Unfounded rumor, as clearly indicated in the link you provided.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2011 02:49 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

The Fried Chicken sandwich at the home-plate Blue Smoke might be a nice change-of-pace. (Tasty, if a little salty.)

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 02:55 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The Fried Chicken sandwich at the home-plate Blue Smoke might be a nice change-of-pace. (Tasty, if a little salty.) yeah, good stuff. That's actually what I had last..in the Reyes hurt his hamstring game.. I'm starting to think I've eaten everything good at Citi Field a couple of times by now.

attgig Jul 15 2011 03:08 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

from espn. Izzy to close (if necessary) on Friday from ESPN.com - New York Mets by Ian Begley New York Mets right hander Jason Isringhausen will get the first crack at closing for the Mets, who are employing a closer-by-committee approach to the ninth inning. Terry Collins said, if the situation presents itself, Isringhausen will close Friday night's game against Philadelphia. Collins cited Isringhausen's success before the All-Star Break and the raucous atmosphere against the Phillies as reasons why he’d choose to go with the veteran on Friday night over Pedro Beato and Bobby Parnell, the other two candidates in the Mets' closer-by-committee crew. And i'll wait in line for shake shack. grab a beer and a box frittes for the line (wife has to feed me since my hands would be occupied).

Chad Ochoseis Jul 15 2011 03:16 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Collins cited Isringhausen's success before the All-Star Break and the raucous atmosphere against the Phillies as reasons why he’d choose to go with the veteran on Friday night over Pedro Beato and Bobby Parnell, the other two candidates in the Mets' closer-by-committee crew. Why would raucosity matter? The thought is to go with the vet because he'll be better equipped to deal with loud noises? He's old, so his hearing isn't so good anymore?

Edgy DC Jul 15 2011 03:20 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

I would assume he's referring to "the vet has been under this sort of pressure before" theory.

themetfairy Jul 15 2011 03:22 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: themetfairy wrote: If you're looking for a change of pace, the pastrami is really good! Not a huge Pastrami fan. (It is good though, as far as Pastrami goes) Maybe a knish? The knishes at the pastrami fan are, to quote Greg, sublime.

Ashie62 Jul 15 2011 04:27 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Edgy DC wrote: Ha! You're all afraid of the beard question. What kind of a beard are you referring to?

G-Fafif Jul 15 2011 04:32 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

attgig wrote: Collins cited Isringhausen's success before the All-Star Break and the raucous atmosphere against the Phillies as reasons why he’d choose to go with the veteran on Friday night over Pedro Beato and Bobby Parnell, the other two candidates in the Mets' closer-by-committee crew. Terry knows this game isn't at Citizens Bank, right?

TransMonk Jul 15 2011 05:16 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Sit down, Chase! 1-2-3 top of one.

G-Fafif Jul 15 2011 05:27 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

TransMonk wrote: Sit down, Chase! 1-2-3 top of one. Sit Utley might be a more appropriate moniker than Chase.

Ashie62 Jul 15 2011 05:40 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

3-0 Phillies, I'm shocked.

Ashie62 Jul 15 2011 05:46 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Thole belongs in AAA. Geez, Omir Santos was better than this guy.

Fman99 Jul 15 2011 06:46 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Fuck Raul Ibanez in his old Muppet ass.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 15 2011 07:22 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

I haven't seen Pridie in months (he says as he whiffs on 3 pitches). He's become this year's Jeremy Reed. Our O is really rotten.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 15 2011 07:35 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

SHaMs suck.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2011 07:37 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

"SHaMs" is all too appropriate a name.

Ashie62 Jul 15 2011 07:41 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

This team sucks...period..Sell at will Sandy..

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2011 07:49 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Beltran says; "I don't suck".

Willets Point Jul 15 2011 08:00 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: Beltran says; "I don't suck". Trade his talented ass NOW!!!

Edgy DC Jul 15 2011 08:04 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Great game for Turner's glove. Really angry at Jerry here for giving Evans' at-bat to Hairston.

Edgy DC Jul 15 2011 08:08 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Always wonder how a guy comes up down by five in the ninth and swings at the first pitch.

bmfc1 Jul 15 2011 08:14 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Edgy DC wrote: Great game for Turner's glove. Really angry at Jerry here for giving Evans' at-bat to Hairston. You mean Terry, right? And you're kidding, right? Hairston has shown a little bit of skill as a PH (remember last Friday?). Evans has shown that he's a good AAA player.

bmfc1 Jul 15 2011 08:16 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I haven't seen Pridie in months (he says as he whiffs on 3 pitches). He's become this year's Jeremy Reed. I don't understand keeping a young player on the bench, especially deep on the bench. He'll be playing almost everyday after Beltran gets traded so he should be getting 4 ABs a night in Buffalo instead of 4 ABs a month in NY.

bmfc1 Jul 15 2011 08:18 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Ashie62 wrote: Thole belongs in AAA. Geez, Omir Santos was better than this guy. Thank you. I've been muttering this for months but figured I'd get ripped so I didn't write it. Name one thing that Thole does well. You can't. He has no power, doesn't hit for average, can't throw, and can't catch which is in the job description for a catcher. At best, he's a .270 singles hitter who can occasionally hit a double. I hope that the Mets get a good catching prospect for Beltran.

Edgy DC Jul 15 2011 08:40 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

bmfc1 wrote: Great game for Turner's glove. Really angry at Jerry here for giving Evans' at-bat to Hairston. You mean Terry, right? Yeah, it's neither the first nor last time my index fingers will have made that mistake. bmfc1 wrote: And you're kidding, right? No, I wasn't kidding. If Evans is going to be here, it's to set him up to cover the first base at-bats against lefties. As it was, he ended up inopportunely up against Bastardo in the ninth. bmfc1 wrote: Hairston has shown a little bit of skill as a PH To the extent that pinch-hitting is a skill, but he sure looked like terrible that at-bat. bmfc1 wrote: (remember last Friday?). I remember Sunday as well. bmfc1 wrote: Evans has shown that he's a good AAA player. Lyndon Johnson was a schoolteacher. We're all one thing until somebody gives us a chance to be another. Hairston too.

Gwreck Jul 15 2011 09:22 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Really disheartening loss. This is the reminder game that we're not that good. We held Rollins, Utley and Howard to 1-13 with a walk, and they still scored 7 runs. Lost in his mistakes (the Tejada error should've gone to him for failure to cover second promptly) were two very nice plays by Turner, in the 4th on Ruiz's grounder and in the 8th on Ibanez's grounder. Loved the Beltran bomb as we're not going to get very many more of those. I was unimpressed with the "pyrotechnics;" I remember them being better last year.

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 09:34 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: Predict prior to game time: 1. Who gets the save tonight? (None is an accecptable answer.) 2. David's playing five innings tonight in PSL. What's his boxscore line? No save. 8-1 Mets. 2. 1 AB, 1 2B, 1 R, 1 BB Hit it EXACTLY. well, #2. Which is also what the Mets played/fielded like. bleh.

holychicken Jul 15 2011 10:19 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Game wasn't great because I was surrounded by Philly fans. However, the pyrotechnics after the game were pretty awesome. Made up for it and I went home happy.

Ceetar Jul 15 2011 10:25 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

holychicken wrote: Game wasn't great because I was surrounded by Philly fans. However, the pyrotechnics after the game were pretty awesome. Made up for it and I went home happy. I was in front of two rather obnoxious ones. I've only seen two or three episodes of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" but I feel like these two could've been characters on it. (despite being local to here)

bmfc1 Jul 16 2011 05:57 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Edgy, you said: "Lyndon Johnson was a schoolteacher. We're all one thing until somebody gives us a chance to be another. Hairston too." If Evans is here, it's because lots of better players are hurt. That was a key situation. The Phillies manager knew it--he took out his pitcher who was pitching a shutout. Hairston's far from great, but he was the right choice there. By your logic, let's play all the kids! This isn't the minors even though the Mets looked like a minor league team last night. I guess Igarashi should pitch more as well--maybe he's not a school teacher, either. Igarashi and Evans have shown nothing to make us believe that they are major league players. They're good at AAA but that's it. You're supposed to win games at the major league level. Maybe if it's September and you're playing another team that's out of it, start Evans, pitch Igarashi. But for now, you pitch Byrdak over Igarashi and you PH Hairston over Evans. Evans will have more chances if Hairston is traded. Maybe then we can see if he's more than a AAA player and future Nippon Ham Fighter.

Edgy DC Jul 16 2011 06:30 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

You know, I understand you're upset that the team lost, but to go and be all sarcastic to folks online and distorting their positions because of that, and at the same claiming that you've been afraid to really offer your opinions because you think folks here are going to "rip" you, is pretty unfair. I'm not sure what I said to deserve all this. Scott Hairston, major league career against lefties: .275 / .330 / .487 // .817. Nick Evans, major league career against lefties: .296 / .358 / .489 // .847. I wasn't "pretending."

bmfc1 Jul 16 2011 06:36 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

You're entitled to your opinion and I can see some logic in "don't bury a guy without giving him a chance." But you said that you were "angry" at Terry for PH'ing Evans over Hairston and I called you on it. I didn't "distort" your position. I think that Terry made the right move. You don't. You're allowed to have your position. Just curious--how many plate appearances does each player have for those stats?

Edgy DC Jul 16 2011 06:46 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

bmfc1 wrote: You're entitled to your opinion and I can see some logic in "don't bury a guy without giving him a chance." But you said that you were "angry" at Terry for PH'ing Evans over Hairston and I called you on it. I think that Terry made the right move. You don't. You're allowed to have your position. I kow what I'm allowed to do. Your "calling me" on it was smothered in ridiculous sarcasm, and I didn't deserve it. The fact that you did it a breath after claiming that you're vulnerable to getting ripped for your opinion is particularly disappointing bmfc1 wrote: Just curious--how many plate appearances does each player have for those stats? C'mon. This stuff is readily available. It's not particulary fair that you go and make me look stuff up for you to use against me. Evans has 148. Hairston has 693. As a pinch-hitter, Hairston has 145 plate appearances and .571 OPS. Evans has 52 plate appearances and a .684 OPS.

Ceetar Jul 16 2011 06:58 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

And this wasn't exactly a "tough" lefty. And by using Hairston, Terry had to burn two players, because someone had to play first.

bmfc1 Jul 16 2011 07:36 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: by using Hairston, Terry had to burn two players, because someone had to play first. Interesting point because we've read that Hairston had been working out at first base.

bmfc1 Jul 16 2011 07:41 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Edgy, I could write back but enough is enough. I hope that Evans goes 5 for 5 today. I hope that Igarashi gets the save. I hope that Thole goes 4 for 4 with a double and no passed balls and that his deaf dog can hear again. Onto the next game.

Ceetar Jul 16 2011 09:20 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Why are we killing Thole so much? I know he's mostly been underwhelming all over, but he's OPSing .839 since June first and I think perhaps the rough start he had is coloring perception.

bmfc1 Jul 16 2011 09:28 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Thanks for pointing that out Ceetar. Maybe it's because he can't catch but that's a good reminder. I still hope that the Mets get a top catching prospect for Beltran: http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/07/a- ... -deal.html

Ashie62 Jul 16 2011 10:05 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Thole sucks, can't catch, can't hit much..ops a lame .668

Edgy DC Jul 16 2011 11:22 AM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

Maybe we should start another thread to discuss Thole. One option we haven't discussed to pinch hit for Duda was Paulino.

Gwreck Jul 16 2011 04:46 PM Re: IGT 7/15/2011, Phils @ Mets

That was my first choice at the time.