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IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Edgy DC Jul 20 2011 08:17 AM

Righthander Kyle McClellan takes a day off from the Laura Palmer investigation to oppose the Mets, who counter with R.A. Dickey. Big question is whether Harris or somebody displaces Jason Bay. Daniel Murphy, repsonding well perhaps to being bounced around the diamond and not having to master any position, is hitting .344 / .375 / .525 // .900 in July.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 08:18 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Where would this club be without Muffy? He's making me a believer again.

Ceetar Jul 20 2011 08:23 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Where would this club be without Muffy? He's making a believer again. I think what he's doing might actually be getting understated a bit. Especially given that he started slow and his been 'better' than his numbers suggest for more than two months. Maybe it's talk radio morons that spend hours mentioning him in the same breath with Texiera saying that Mark is a future Hall of Famer and Murphy can't start on a good team. Also, as many point out, Murphy can't hit lefties, but .300 .313 .438 .751 seems alright to me, if a little light on the walks.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2011 08:27 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Where would this club be without Muffy? He's making a believer again. I think what he's doing might actually be getting understated a bit. Especially given that he started slow and his been 'better' than his numbers suggest for more than two months. Maybe it's talk radio morons that spend hours mentioning him in the same breath with Texiera saying that Mark is a future Hall of Famer and Murphy can't start on a good team. Also, as many point out, Murphy can't hit lefties, but .300 .313 .438 .751 seems alright to me, if a little light on the walks. That's one walk he has against lefties. It's more than a little light. But a sample size plate appearances are more than a little small. I'd like to experiment with hitting him third in front of Beltran, but as he's not been walking, that may just put unreasonable pressure on him for no tangible benefit. Wright will be back later in the week to bring his .226 batting average to the middle of the lineup anyhow.

Vic Sage Jul 20 2011 08:33 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Mike Vail had a 23-game hitting streak once. Relax. In the meantime, he's still hitting (not many BBs, HRs or SBs,but line-drive doubles are good, too) and playing a decent 3b. When Wright returns, I'd like to see Murph back at 1b, until he cools off, with Evans getting the occasional start against LHPs. It looks like Turner is settling in at 2b, at least for now, but will they eventually split time? Depends on Davis's ankle, Turner's bat and Murphy's glove. Ultimately, i still see Murphy as a useful super-sub.

Ceetar Jul 20 2011 08:35 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

yeah, 1 walk. 80 PA or so, not a tiny sample at least. his BABIP is the same via the splits and he's actually hitting more fly balls lefty. 1 walk is not good, but if he can maybe be a wee bit more patient maybe he can capitalize and yank some of them out of the park?

Vic Sage Jul 20 2011 08:39 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Ceetar wrote: yeah, 1 walk. 80 PA or so, not a tiny sample at least. his BABIP is the same via the splits and he's actually hitting more fly balls lefty. 1 walk is not good, but if he can maybe be a wee bit more patient maybe he can capitalize and yank some of them out of the park? He was maybe a 15hr guy in a fair park... but in this park? I'd just as soon he not try to jerk anything out, seeing how trying has damaged both Bay and Wright the past 2 years. Let him get on at a .350%+ clip, with a .450%+ slugging rate, and he'll be valuable.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 08:41 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

I was just remarking on the fact that he'd done good over these last few weeks; obviously he's a sub whose game has big flaws.

Ceetar Jul 20 2011 08:43 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I was just remarking on the fact that he'd done good over these last few weeks; obviously he's a sub whose game has big flaws. well, those 'last few weeks' are actually months. I'm not sure it's so obvious what his role of the future is.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 08:47 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Doesn't hit with enough powa to unseat Davis at 1st or Wright at 3rd; and isn't strong enough defensively to play the OF or 2B reliably. He's limited. But yes, I come to praise his .300 hitting. I'd pretty much given up on him after failing to improve upon his strong freshman year but here he's batting cleanup and not completely screwing it up, he deserves a tip of the cap.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 10:18 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Willie Harris is a useful super-sub. Murph's a superuseful super-sub. Lack of power aside, he's playable for stretches at three infield positions (and occasional stick-in-your-head misplay, he's handled them pretty f*cking decently, as per UZR/Dewan/the eye test). A bench guy? Sure. But in my mind, as a multi-position guy who can put up a .340 wOBA (albeit a BABIP-dependent one), he's a top bench guy/spot starter on a World Series winner.

Centerfield Jul 20 2011 10:59 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

If Davis were back, I'd start Murphy every day at 2nd base. Fuck defense. In fact, the only reason I'm not advocating playing him at 2nd base every day now is because I'd like to see what Turner can do.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2011 11:07 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Well, if Davis were back, I'd revert to platooning Murphy at second. Fuck defense two days in three, except for late inning substitutions. (Defense needs a break from all the fucking.) And I'd find occasional time for him at first, third, and left. (Defense would get a little more riding out there.)

Centerfield Jul 20 2011 11:37 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Yeah, actually. That works better.

Ashie62 Jul 20 2011 11:42 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Vic Sage wrote: Mike Vail had a 23-game hitting streak once. Relax. In the meantime, he's still hitting (not many BBs, HRs or SBs,but line-drive doubles are good, too) and playing a decent 3b. When Wright returns, I'd like to see Murph back at 1b, until he cools off, with Evans getting the occasional start against LHPs. It looks like Turner is settling in at 2b, at least for now, but will they eventually split time? Depends on Davis's ankle, Turner's bat and Murphy's glove. Ultimately, i still see Murphy as a useful super-sub. So does Bobby Valentine. Opined on a Sunday night 3 weeks or so back.

G-Fafif Jul 20 2011 12:58 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

La Russa's nightmare: Jose Reyes, ss Justin Turner, 2b Carlos Beltran, rf Daniel Murphy, 3b Angel Pagan, cf Jason Bay, lf Lucas Duda, 1b Josh Thole, c R.A. Dickey, rhp

sharpie Jul 20 2011 01:13 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Thole not sticking around to see his kid's first full day on earth.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 20 2011 01:14 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

I wouldn't be terribly shocked if this turns out to be R.A. Dickey's last game as a Met.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 01:27 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

sharpie wrote: Thole not sticking around to see his kid's first full day on earth. "[Sigh, followed by slow shaking of head]" -Jason Bay

seawolf17 Jul 20 2011 01:29 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: sharpie wrote: Thole not sticking around to see his kid's first full day on earth. "[Sigh, followed by slow shaking of head]" -Jason Bay Followed by a 32-day DL stint because of a concussion from all that head shaking.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2011 02:07 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Duelling optimism in the ESPN preview: "I'm always going to try to find the positive," sez McClellan. "It's part of my nature to be optimistic," Dickey counters. SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 02:21 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

When in doubt, I go with the bigger sword.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 05:52 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Or maybe you go with the one who isn't all over the place, control-wise. Or the one who isn't getting smacked around like a cad on a soap opera. What a farty inning.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 05:55 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 05:58 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

And thanks to Dickey's Butcher Boy chopper...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 06:08 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Knuckler's dancing again. Dickey works around a leadoff single with a funky, ump-aided 1-6-3 DP and weak tapper to Turner. After 3 1/2, the deficit's holding steady at 4-2.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 06:10 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

It must be superfun hitting against a slow outfield. (Especially for a guy like Murph.)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 06:14 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Jason Bay out with a [crossout:2r2dx0nb]little black rain cloud[/crossout:2r2dx0nb] tight right hamstring. Harris on to strike out with RISP in his stead.

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2011 06:21 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Keith is such a man of the people.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 06:33 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Lance Berkman: The Hardest Working Man In The Not-Very-Good-Defense Business

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 06:39 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

It's odd how little solid contact the Mets seem to be making; when McClellan's throwing strikes, he's throwing STRIKES.

Ceetar Jul 20 2011 06:41 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Beltran tries to take out Keith with a bomb into the porch. tied at 4.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 06:41 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It's odd how little solid contact the Mets seem to be making; when McClellan's throwing strikes, he's throwing STRIKES. Neeeeeever mind. Beltran was ten feet away from giving Gary a souvenir.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 06:41 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Beltran Trade Value +++++++++++

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 06:45 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Gary is lurving this.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 06:48 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

SNY will not deign to show you the dick who decided to run on the field. Of course, we'll be glad to provide hilarious narration. ("Oh, they're getting tired. They're gonna need more guys.")\ Dickey, meanwhile, proves far more in-control of onfield doings than CitiField security with a 1-2-3 6th.

Ceetar Jul 20 2011 06:53 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: SNY will not deign to show you the dick who decided to run on the field. Of course, we'll be glad to provide hilarious narration. ("Oh, they're getting tired. They're gonna need more guys.")\ Dickey, meanwhile, proves far more in-control of onfield doings than CitiField security with a 1-2-3 6th. oh, if it was up to Keith you'd have the cameras on the guy all the way into the cell. He pretty much told Turner to deck the guy.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2011 06:57 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Keith is a little detached from the concerns of mortals. Meanwhile, Bay did wha?

Ceetar Jul 20 2011 07:00 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Edgy DC wrote: Keith is a little detached from the concerns of mortals. Meanwhile, Bay did wha? He figured Reyes is awesome, Reyes hurt his hamstring, so i'll hurt my hamstring. he doesn't understand cause and effect I don't think so.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:02 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Maybe it's just me, but I'd trust Dickey to work his way out of this without a run scoring over Byrdak, handedness be damned.

seawolf17 Jul 20 2011 07:05 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Terry channeling his inner Willie with the pitching changes.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 07:09 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

BEATdOwn

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 07:09 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Maybe it's just me, but I'd trust Dickey to work his way out of this without a run scoring over Byrdak, handedness be damned. F Dickey.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:10 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 20 2011 07:13 PM

Beato to Pujols: "Siddown, bitch. I mean, bitch SIR." Three nasty pitches. OE: GameDay average "Nasty Factor" for the Pujols AB-- 75.

seawolf17 Jul 20 2011 07:12 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

I want this game to go like seventeen innings, because Keith, in and among the people, will be HILARIOUS by midnight.

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2011 07:13 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Cards bring in Lancelot Lynn to do the pitching. Not surprisingly he's kind of hairy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:14 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Jason Pridie: Not dead!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:17 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

I am praying to gods I don't believe in that this IBB blows up in Sousy McGee's face.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:27 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Terry sees LaRussa's intentional walk, and raises him. (We're scared of a slumping Colby Rasmus now?)

Fman99 Jul 20 2011 07:29 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2011 07:29 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Shit! These guys have one friggin hit this inning and they're on the verge of breaking the game open.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:33 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

We need some Dudaish patience out of Pagan and Harris here.

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2011 07:34 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

btw, Keith and Gary have made several references to drag bunts during the last few games as if there's some kind of inside joke between them. What they're doing (I'm sure) is tweaking Phil Mushnick who has been mocking them (mostly Keith) in his NYPost column recently for calling all bunts drag bunts even those that go down the 3B line in what have traditionally been considered push bunts. I think they're purposely overdoing it just to annoy Mushnick.

Fman99 Jul 20 2011 07:35 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Pagan with the leadoff infield single. It's rally time bitches!

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2011 07:36 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

No bunts please!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:37 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Lynn has "overthrow" written all over him right now. Make him throw strikes.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 07:39 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

I like Doodoo doing something this inning.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:39 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Bunting ball three badly: Bad Idea jeans.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 07:40 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Frayed Knot wrote: btw, Keith and Gary have made several references to drag bunts during the last few games as if there's some kind of inside joke between them. What they're doing (I'm sure) is tweaking Phil Mushnick who has been mocking them (mostly Keith) in his NYPost column recently for calling all bunts drag bunts even those that go down the 3B line in what have traditionally been considered push bunts. I think they're purposely overdoing it just to annoy Mushnick. I hadn't realized that but thought there was something odd in the way Keith said "That's a great drag bunt, eh Gar?"

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2011 07:42 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: btw, Keith and Gary have made several references to drag bunts during the last few games as if there's some kind of inside joke between them. What they're doing (I'm sure) is tweaking Phil Mushnick who has been mocking them (mostly Keith) in his NYPost column recently for calling all bunts drag bunts even those that go down the 3B line in what have traditionally been considered push bunts. I think they're purposely overdoing it just to annoy Mushnick. I hadn't realized that but thought there was something odd in the way Keith said "That's a great drag bunt, eh Gar?" Yeah, Gary didn't respond tonight because he was busy with something else, but last night (or the one before) he made some kind of answer which indicated that he's in on the joke.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:45 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

C'mon, Pops.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 07:47 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: btw, Keith and Gary have made several references to drag bunts during the last few games as if there's some kind of inside joke between them. What they're doing (I'm sure) is tweaking Phil Mushnick who has been mocking them (mostly Keith) in his NYPost column recently for calling all bunts drag bunts even those that go down the 3B line in what have traditionally been considered push bunts. I think they're purposely overdoing it just to annoy Mushnick. I hadn't realized that but thought there was something odd in the way Keith said "That's a great drag bunt, eh Gar?" Yeah, Gary didn't respond tonight because he was busy with something else, but last night (or the one before) he made some kind of answer which indicated that he's in on the joke. I was like, why ask Gary?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 07:48 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Eat a basket of dicks, LaRussa.

Fman99 Jul 20 2011 07:48 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Thole finds the 5.5. holey!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:53 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Studies show: New Dads Crave Schaefer.

Fman99 Jul 20 2011 07:57 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

"Sliding into first doesn't help, dum dum."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 07:57 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Give the diving a fucking rest, whiteboy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 08:00 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Walking off to commence

Ashie62 Jul 20 2011 08:01 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Gitter Dun.

Fman99 Jul 20 2011 08:02 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Let's put this fucker to bed, so I can put myself to bed. Kthanxbye

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 08:08 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Well, here's the first real test of having lost Rodriguez.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 08:22 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Isringhausen just got us another prospect in an upcoming trade.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2011 08:25 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Walkoff!

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2011 08:26 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

G, K & R are HR magnets.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2011 08:28 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Sweet, sweet victory for the Mets, GKR, and the Trade Value Meter.

attgig Jul 20 2011 08:33 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

awesome walkoff! pagan looked pretty bad through the rest of the game, but redeemed himself. only downside is izzy gets a win instead of a save.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 20 2011 08:47 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Frayed Knot wrote: G, K & R are HR magnets. Just as Gary is saying, "Angel will sometimes hit a home run, but he's not a home run hitter" Pagan ends the game with a homer.

TransMonk Jul 20 2011 08:48 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Saw the last two innings at the bar after softball. Amazing!

Ceetar Jul 20 2011 08:49 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

fun game. I was thinking about Beltran and Keith today. Many want 17 retired, but Beltran has had a better Mets career. If Beltran were to stay to the end of the season he'd actually pass Keith in games played. Difference of course is the ring, but that wasn't due to lack of talent on Beltran's part. Beltran also inched closer to the milestone he likely won't get as Met. 5 more home runs, 8 more SB.

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2011 09:37 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Walkoff win for Colorado v Atlanta -- so the same deal as last night; gain a game on everyone in the East except Philly.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2011 10:04 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Complete the show tomorrow and catch the Cards in the standings.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2011 10:08 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Frayed Knot wrote: btw, Keith and Gary have made several references to drag bunts during the last few games as if there's some kind of inside joke between them. What they're doing (I'm sure) is tweaking Phil Mushnick who has been mocking them (mostly Keith) in his NYPost column recently for calling all bunts drag bunts even those that go down the 3B line in what have traditionally been considered push bunts. I think they're purposely overdoing it just to annoy Mushnick. I'm going to disagree with Mushnick here. I think a drag bunt can go to either side, with the batters intent to make it die halfway down the line. A push but I think of as a harder one where you try and put it between the pitchers mound and the firstbaseman. It's practially a lost art. Taveras was the specialist at it, but Backman could pull it off and Timo did also on occasion.

G-Fafif Jul 20 2011 10:46 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Super fun in El Promenade more or less behind home plate for the second consecutive night. Thanks to bmfc1 for having the foresight to walk down the block to his local Manufacturers Hanover Trust and pick up the tix for this one. And I'd like to believe after Carlos hit his home run, he told Angel, "Now it's time for you to be the man of the outfield." Angel takes that stuff seriously.

Ashie62 Jul 21 2011 06:06 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Ya Gotta Believe!

Frayed Knot Jul 21 2011 10:01 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

btw, Keith and Gary have made several references to drag bunts during the last few games as if there's some kind of inside joke between them. What they're doing (I'm sure) is tweaking Phil Mushnick who has been mocking them (mostly Keith) in his NYPost column recently for calling all bunts drag bunts even those that go down the 3B line in what have traditionally been considered push bunts. I think they're purposely overdoing it just to annoy Mushnick. I'm going to disagree with Mushnick here. I think a drag bunt can go to either side, with the batters intent to make it die halfway down the line. A push but I think of as a harder one where you try and put it between the pitchers mound and the firstbaseman. It's practially a lost art. Taveras was the specialist at it, but Backman could pull it off and Timo did also on occasion. Part of this is just me paraphrasing here as I don't think that Mushnick is specifically labeling all bunts towards 3B push bunts, only that they're not drag bunts - as in, you don't 'drag' something away from you. That's certainly the way I always thought of a drag bunt: a LHB taking one with him as he starts down the line. In any case, the only reason I even bring it up is because it's obvious Keith is aware that Mushnick is calling him out on the definition but rather than address it directly Keith is choosing to slyly tweak him about it and he's brought Gary along for the ride. Most announcers, etc claim to not read the columnists who cover their part of the industry but they always seem to know exactly what's being said about them in said columns. M&MD were famous for that; "I never read Mushnick ... but let me tell you were his Sunday column was totally off base!!!!"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 25 2011 11:05 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: SNY will not deign to show you the dick who decided to run on the field. Of course, we'll be glad to provide hilarious narration. ("Oh, they're getting tired. They're gonna need more guys.") Play-by-play breakdown of the ridiculously long offscreen doings (including YouTube video). (CitiField security looks terrible.)

Gwreck Jul 25 2011 11:50 PM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

(CitiField security looks terrible.) Same problem they have with just about every other person that works there: they don't pay enough (and/or have good enough supervision) to get employees that care enough to do a good job. It's not the first time a fan has run on the field there, yet they appear for all the world to have no idea what to do if that were to happen.

Edgy DC Jul 26 2011 05:31 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Dogs. It's so easy.

Ceetar Jul 26 2011 05:45 AM Re: IGT, 7/20/2011, Redbirds @ Bluemets

Edgy DC wrote: Dogs. It's so easy. but you'd scare the feral cat colony!