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Mets @ Florida IGT 7/22: The Wright Time

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 22 2011 11:56 AM

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Ashie62
Jul 22 2011 12:28 PM
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It's going to be hot hot hot!

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 12:52 PM
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Thunderstorms expected for tonight. Plus a Miami team still pissed about the pointless fly-thru on Monday.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 12:55 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Thunderstorms expected for tonight. Plus a Miami team still pissed about the pointless fly-thru on Monday.


No Bay, could he be the roster move?

WRIGHT!



KBurkhardtSNY wrote:


Reyes. Turner. Beltran. Wright. Murphy. Pagan. Duda lf. Paulino. Pelfrey.


Kevin would like you to know he's back as well.

...guys?

Ashie62
Jul 22 2011 01:06 PM
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Bay?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 22 2011 01:51 PM
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It's Nick Evans, again.

Meantime, Mets have claimed Padres AAA OF Mike Baxter on waivers, I believe this means he joins the 40.

Baxter was born in Queens. Slashing 278/413/306 // 719 in the California League.

Hit .125 in 9 ABs for the Padres last year.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 02:26 PM
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You got the wrong line there. Queens' own Mike Baxter put those percentages up during an 11-game stay in high A. It's all the numbers he has this year, but in the PCL last year, he went .301 / .382 / .517 // .899.

Yet another Ivy League man. He and Fernando Perez were probably teammies at Columbia.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 05:13 PM
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we're off. Reyes grounds out, but Turner bloops a single.

Carlos Beltran is up, couldn't notice any cheers, but you gotta figure Miami is basically a home game for the Mets sometimes, especially with Puerto Rican fans.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 05:14 PM
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turner gets things started with a single.

Really messed up: Whenever I tune in to GameDay, they show a backdrop of the home park with the place packed with adoring fans. Wherever they are --- Flushing, Arlington, Oakland --- the stands are depicted as full.

Except in Miami, where there are scatterings of fans filling about 35% of a sea of orange seats. Increible.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 05:14 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
we're off. Reyes grounds out, but Turner bloops a single.

Carlos Beltran is up, couldn't notice any cheers, but you gotta figure Miami is basically a home game for the Mets sometimes, especially with Puerto Rican fans.



and on the 'home game' front, David Wright gets quite a hand.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 05:15 PM
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Walk to 'Los. Wright Time.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 22 2011 05:16 PM
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yeehah

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 05:16 PM
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Doubloom! Awesome! We have a lineup!

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 05:17 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Doubloom! Awesome! We have a lineup!


indeed, 2-0, first and third, 1 out!

Fman99
Jul 22 2011 05:17 PM
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Welcome back indeed. Mets up 2-0 on the Muffie RBI single.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 05:19 PM
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Tree-nuttin'.

Hey, Mike, not for nothing, but don't screw this up.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 05:20 PM
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3-0 on a long sac fly from Pagan. He smashed it, but dead center.

Fman99
Jul 22 2011 05:21 PM
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Cmon Ronnie, let's turn the screws on these shitdicks.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 22 2011 05:25 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:


Really messed up: Whenever I tune in to GameDay, they show a backdrop of the home park with the place packed with adoring fans. Wherever they are --- Flushing, Arlington, Oakland --- the stands are depicted as full.

Except in Miami, where there are scatterings of fans filling about 35% of a sea of orange seats. Incredible.


Other than the World Series game, when I've been to that stadium the team doesn't even sell the upper deck outfield seats. They're usually covered with a tarp.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 05:56 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Tree-nuttin'.

Hey, Mike, not for nothing, but don't screw this up.


Seriously (as he walks the number-eight hitter), can we get a reliever up?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 05:59 PM
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Really messed up: Whenever I tune in to GameDay, they show a backdrop of the home park with the place packed with adoring fans. Wherever they are --- Flushing, Arlington, Oakland --- the stands are depicted as full.

Except in Miami, where there are scatterings of fans filling about 35% of a sea of orange seats. Incredible.


Other than the World Series game, when I've been to that stadium the team doesn't even sell the upper deck outfield seats. They're usually covered with a tarp.


They've actually officially shut the upper level down for the rest of the season. (They had only been available for weekend night games, anyway.)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 06:07 PM
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Lucas Duda: World's Biggest Singles Machine

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 06:10 PM
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Really messed up: Whenever I tune in to GameDay, they show a backdrop of the home park with the place packed with adoring fans. Wherever they are --- Flushing, Arlington, Oakland --- the stands are depicted as full.

Except in Miami, where there are scatterings of fans filling about 35% of a sea of orange seats. Incredible.


Other than the World Series game, when I've been to that stadium the team doesn't even sell the upper deck outfield seats. They're usually covered with a tarp.


They've actually officially shut the upper level down for the rest of the season. (They had only been available for weekend night games, anyway.)


Actually, they've shut them down _forever_ which might explain the lack of tarp. Let the Dolphins worry about it.

G-Fafif
Jul 22 2011 06:11 PM
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Gary suggested sometimes the biggest kids in their class have hangups about being too aggressive -- so we are now officially out of excuses for Mike Pelfrey.

(Mrs. Fafif on the theory: "What about Randy Johnson?")

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 06:14 PM
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Pelfrey hasn't walked many guys this year, but, man alive, has he seemed to walk the wrong ones.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 06:14 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Gary suggested sometimes the biggest kids in their class have hangups about being too aggressive -- so we are now officially out of excuses for Mike Pelfrey.

(Mrs. Fafif on the theory: "What about Randy Johnson?")


Gary did counter with Johnson pretty fast. Johnson was even mean to NY cameramen.

Think there could be a difference between a California guy born in the 60s versus a Kansas native from the 80s. upbringing and all.

but intimidation only actually goes so far. the major difference is ability.

G-Fafif
Jul 22 2011 06:28 PM
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The Missus added there are lots of blue jays in Kansas, so forget about him pitching against Toronto.

Frayed Knot
Jul 22 2011 06:28 PM
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I saw that Bonofacio dash coming the whole way ... why didn't they?

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 06:29 PM
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I don't know if net ability is the issue. The guy has 96-MPH heat and stamina. Those are abilities. he lacks a particularly effective breaking pitch, control, and a sequence that crosses people up. But he has more ability than a lot of people. Me, for instance.

I'm not sure I'd've let him bat this inning.

Frayed Knot
Jul 22 2011 06:30 PM
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I think if you told me it would only be 6-3 Marlins by the end of this inning I might sign up for it.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 06:31 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I saw that Bonofacio dash coming the whole way ... why didn't they?


I saw the Bonifacio Dash open up for the Blake Babies back in 1991.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 06:34 PM
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G: "Between speed and Moneyball, sir... give me speed every time."

K: "I never saw Moneyball force any throwing errors, or make any pitchers nervous. Moneyball never won a championship, like we did under Whitey in '82."

G: "Speed sure did make that ground ball hop over Sanchez' glove there, Keith."

K: "Speed is EVERYTHING, Gar. Moneyball never caused a balk, or made a good knockwurst, or led a successful World War."

G: "Sure didn't. 1-0 count to Wright here."

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 06:41 PM
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What percentage of that is real?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 06:47 PM
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Mere pastiche of a whole lot of speed-is-great/proudly-ignorant pooping on Moneyball (Bonifacio's bobble was chalked up to Reyes' speed, as opposed to, say, Bonifacio's general lack-o'-glovely acumen/tendency to rush most plays). Plus, I left out the part where they made thinly-veiled steroid allusions, apropos-of-nothing, for the eleven thousandth time.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 06:54 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I don't know if net ability is the issue. The guy has 96-MPH heat and stamina. Those are abilities. he lacks a particularly effective breaking pitch, control, and a sequence that crosses people up. But he has more ability than a lot of people. Me, for instance.

I'm not sure I'd've let him bat this inning.


it's the control. Is that not an ability? Is that not what separates average from good from great? Sometimes Pelfrey doesn't have that control, much more often than Johnson (besides the obvious that he's a strikeout guy and one of the best _ever_) The idea that Pelfrey should be able to intimidate and dominate because he's tall like Randy is about as baseless as he should dominate because he's a number one draft pick. He's not that guy, let's let it go and stop killing him because he doesn't live up to lofty expectations.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 06:58 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
I don't know if net ability is the issue. The guy has 96-MPH heat and stamina. Those are abilities. he lacks a particularly effective breaking pitch, control, and a sequence that crosses people up. But he has more ability than a lot of people. Me, for instance.

I'm not sure I'd've let him bat this inning.


it's the control. Is that not an ability? Is that not what separates average from good from great? Sometimes Pelfrey doesn't have that control, much more often than Johnson (besides the obvious that he's a strikeout guy and one of the best _ever_) The idea that Pelfrey should be able to intimidate and dominate because he's tall like Randy is about as baseless as he should dominate because he's a number one draft pick. He's not that guy, let's let it go and stop killing him because he doesn't live up to lofty expectations.


I think I made it clear that I consider control an ability that he lacks. I'm certainly not killing him.

I was about to suggest that he looks like he's settling down, and he almost just gave up a homer to Infante.

We didn't get a KTE for this series, did we?

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 07:03 PM
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Joahan in the dugout!

Leadoff dubble by Jose!

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 07:04 PM
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Wasn't directed just at you, but there is this idea out there that Pelfrey should be awesome. GKR bringing up Randy is just an example of that.

Pelfrey did settle in . He's been pretty good at that. Keeping them in the game. He hasn't had has many starts that resemble an amazing start this year compared to last, but he hasn't had that many games that the Mets have just been out of it.

Anyway, Reyes bloop double. a gift, likely,but hey, another 2 hit game. he may just catch that record yet.

Johan in the dugout. (okay, you beat me on those. but hey, Johan! in a Mets dugout!)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 07:13 PM
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That was piss-poor offensive play in that inning.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 07:15 PM
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4-4, baby..

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 07:16 PM
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Well, at least the club'll save some money with the Big Non-Tender.

seawolf17
Jul 22 2011 07:18 PM
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Hey. Who is that guy on the right? Looks like #6x?

http://twitpic.com/5u9lz3

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 07:23 PM
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Big break here. Love that Marlin D.

Also love when Murphy works walks.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 07:23 PM
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Johan's lawyer?

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 07:24 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Hey. Who is that guy on the right? Looks like #6x?

http://twitpic.com/5u9lz3

Is Ruben Gotay back?

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 07:30 PM
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Pelfrey is actually leaving the game with a chance to win.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 07:47 PM
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Dumb question that play brings to mind: can you change pitchers and then try the appeal?

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 07:48 PM
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So that's three leads we've lost.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 07:59 PM
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Leadoff dude on and middle of the order. Let's finish this.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:04 PM
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Nine pitches and a 400-foot out for Beltran. Tough division.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:05 PM
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RBI dubble by Wrighteousness!

Go, Chip Hale!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 08:05 PM
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Good to have that back, no?

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:06 PM
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Choate comes in to face Murphy. Any chance you go to Evans?

I would a month ago. But July has totally been Murphy's month.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 08:09 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Choate comes in to face Murphy. Any chance you go to Evans?

I would a month ago. But July has totally been Murphy's month.


and thankfully, no. 2-run lead? 2-run lead.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:09 PM
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So I'm saying.

Take that, Randy Choate, you Yankee-for-Life.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:11 PM
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Randy Choate entered the game with 45 appearances and 20 1/3 innngs. Is that like the OO-iest of LOOGys you've ever seen?

seawolf17
Jul 22 2011 08:12 PM
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I feel like Mike Cameron was a Met really recently, but only Jose and David would remember him as a teammate. Last time he was a Met, Mike Piazza was still a Met.

Been a long time.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 08:12 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Randy Choate entered the game with 45 appearances and 20 1/3 innngs. Is that like the OO-iest of LOOGys you've ever seen?


yeah, that's up there quite a bit.

Also means he's been fairly ineffective.

shame the Braves won.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 08:13 PM
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I would've stuck with Duda here, I think.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:14 PM
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Double-switching out Hanley Ramirez?

Trader Jack lives!

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:16 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
I would've stuck with Duda here, I think.


Yeah, I think so too. Marlins have another lefty in the pen. Let Duda face the righty and save Hairum Scairum in case you face that guy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 08:16 PM
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Also, he's, like, a MUCH better offensive player than Hairston (well-timed HRs and once nice Saturday aside).

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:19 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Thunderstorms expected for tonight. Plus a Miami team still pissed about the pointless fly-thru on Monday.


No Bay, could he be the roster move?

I think he's under the impression that the Tholes having a kid means he gets another few days of that paternity leave, and nobody wants to correct him.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:21 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Also, he's, like, a MUCH better offensive player than Hairston (well-timed HRs and once nice Saturday aside).

Yeah, I was just throwing the marginal data in there, in case there was any disputing the primary data.

Wright's yips are off the DL also.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:24 PM
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Holy shit! Keith Hernandez comes out of retirement and makes the play on the bunt.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:26 PM
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What's the point of invoking the infield fly rule on a foul pop?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 08:29 PM
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Makes the ump feel important?

Parnell must not be living right this week.

Frayed Knot
Jul 22 2011 08:29 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
What's the point of invoking the infield fly rule on a foul pop?


The ump's call there is: "Infield Fly if Fair".
Without that you'd run into the possibility of the pop blowing fair and the IFR not called.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 08:31 PM
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The weak pitch has become the out pitch... and a nasty one at that. (Imagine if he could throw a semi-decent change-up?)

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:33 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Makes the ump feel important?

Parnell must not be living right this week.

But had the guts to muscle up and finish the job, if messily.

Did not know there was a Infield-Fly-the-Batter's-out-if-Fair call.

Hang onto your butts.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 08:33 PM
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I've always kinda liked Parnell. Thought he had the makeup to be a good reliever. slider on 3-2 to get him looking? nice..

MFS62
Jul 22 2011 08:35 PM
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His last three eighth inning appearances have sure given the fans a thrill.
Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 08:37 PM
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He's always had-- presumably-- the raw stuff (hard stuff, and an intermittently-decent slider).

It's control-- there it is again!-- that's been the rub. Now, he seems to have more command of the slider than the fastball. ("Effectively wild" he ain't, either-- when he misses, he's either in another area code, or he's right on the white.)

Aaaaand Everett is apparently as sick of sitting through this game as we are. (However much Gary and Keith keep trying to push how "crazy" it's been-- presumably to push the Reds-'86 game parallels?-- it's been a mucky, ugly grind, like most Florida specials.)

Ashie62
Jul 22 2011 08:40 PM
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Command Parnell, command.

MFS62
Jul 22 2011 08:42 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Command Parnell, command.

OK, I will.
Parnell, I command you to throw pitches on the black with your best stuff, young trooper.

Later

Ashie62
Jul 22 2011 08:44 PM
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BOOKS>>>>>

Frayed Knot
Jul 22 2011 08:44 PM
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It would be really Wise not to walk Dewayne with the big boys coming up.



oe: or have him fly out deep to LF, I'm OK either way.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 08:45 PM
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Yoy. Thanks be.

themetfairy
Jul 22 2011 08:46 PM
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Whew!

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:49 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Aaaaand Everett is apparently as sick of sitting through this game as we are. (However much Gary and Keith keep trying to push how "crazy" it's been-- presumably to push the Reds-'86 game parallels?-- it's been a mucky, ugly grind, like most Florida specials.)

Smwell put. But if it's a grinder, I'll take a grinder victory over the alternative.

Some good and some bad from Wrightsman tonight, huh? Failed to plate a guy with less than two outs twice, threw away a ball at third, but had two RBI hits of the type I'll never turn down.

In the end, Florida just out-uglied us.

Frayed Knot
Jul 22 2011 08:52 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
G: "Between speed and Moneyball, sir... give me speed every time."

K: "I never saw Moneyball force any throwing errors, or make any pitchers nervous. Moneyball never won a championship, like we did under Whitey in '82."

G: "Speed sure did make that ground ball hop over Sanchez' glove there, Keith."

K: "Speed is EVERYTHING, Gar. Moneyball never caused a balk, or made a good knockwurst, or led a successful World War."

G: "Sure didn't. 1-0 count to Wright here."




As if 'Moneyball' ever dismissed speed as an asset.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 08:53 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
G: "Between speed and Moneyball, sir... give me speed every time."

K: "I never saw Moneyball force any throwing errors, or make any pitchers nervous. Moneyball never won a championship, like we did under Whitey in '82."

G: "Speed sure did make that ground ball hop over Sanchez' glove there, Keith."

K: "Speed is EVERYTHING, Gar. Moneyball never caused a balk, or made a good knockwurst, or led a successful World War."

G: "Sure didn't. 1-0 count to Wright here."




As if 'Moneyball' ever dismissed speed as an asset.


more the Stolen Base than speed.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:53 PM
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By the way, not to be overlooked, Carlos Beltran made his Mets debut in left tonight, swappping positions with Jason Pridie with one out in the ninth and Logan Morrison coming up. Anybody able to enlgihten me about what that was all about?

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 08:55 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
By the way, not to be overlooked, Carlos Beltran made his Mets debut in left tonight, swappping positions with Jason Pridie with one out in the ninth and Logan Morrison coming up. Anybody able to enlgihten me about what that was all about?


wait, he did?

so says gameday. That's odd. is it an error? I thought it was Pridie out there making that last catch, but i wasn't paying that close a ttention to who it was, and Gary said it was Pridie, so he clearly didn't know..

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 08:57 PM
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It was Pridie. GameDay's crackish.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 08:59 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
It was Pridie. GameDay's crackish.


it also gave me a "7 strikeouts" badge for Pelfrey when he struck out _batting_ earlier in the game.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 08:59 PM
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No wonder I didn't hear anything on the audiofeed. Strange.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 08:59 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
No wonder I didn't hear anything on the audiofeed. Strange.


gameday also says it happened after the first out in the 9th.

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2011 09:02 PM
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Maybe it was paying tribute to the 7/22/86 Ray Knightgame with the Reds where Mookie Wilson had to switch back and forth from left to right to allow McRosco to play on the weak side.

Frayed Knot
Jul 22 2011 09:08 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
G: "Between speed and Moneyball, sir... give me speed every time."

K: "I never saw Moneyball force any throwing errors, or make any pitchers nervous. Moneyball never won a championship, like we did under Whitey in '82."

G: "Speed sure did make that ground ball hop over Sanchez' glove there, Keith."

K: "Speed is EVERYTHING, Gar. Moneyball never caused a balk, or made a good knockwurst, or led a successful World War."

G: "Sure didn't. 1-0 count to Wright here."




As if 'Moneyball' ever dismissed speed as an asset.


more the Stolen Base than speed.


More the concept that speedy dudes with little power, bad OBAs, and low rates of stolen base success were valuable commodities to treasure and put at the top of the order.

Ceetar
Jul 22 2011 09:10 PM
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well there was a specific chapter involving an acquired speedster talking with some coaches and them telling him how he really shouldn't be trying to steal bases or Beane will come down on him. (moneyball the book that is, not 'moneyball' the perceived way the Oakland A's did/do run the club)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 22 2011 09:11 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
G: "Between speed and Moneyball, sir... give me speed every time."

K: "I never saw Moneyball force any throwing errors, or make any pitchers nervous. Moneyball never won a championship, like we did under Whitey in '82."

G: "Speed sure did make that ground ball hop over Sanchez' glove there, Keith."

K: "Speed is EVERYTHING, Gar. Moneyball never caused a balk, or made a good knockwurst, or led a successful World War."

G: "Sure didn't. 1-0 count to Wright here."




As if 'Moneyball' ever dismissed speed as an asset.


more the Stolen Base than speed.


More the concept that speedy dudes with little power, bad OBAs, and low rates of stolen base success were valuable commodities to treasure and put at the top of the order.


Yep. G & K more or less reduced it to, "Well, y'know, Moneyball pretty much dismissed speed as an asset, but..."

Centerfield
Jul 23 2011 09:39 AM
Re: Mets @ Florida IGT 7/22: The Wright Time

seawolf17 wrote:
I feel like Mike Cameron was a Met really recently, but only Jose and David would remember him as a teammate. Last time he was a Met, Mike Piazza was still a Met.

Been a long time.


Beltran too. It was Carlos's face that ended Cameron's Met career.

Edgy DC
Jul 23 2011 10:23 AM
Re: Mets @ Florida IGT 7/22: The Wright Time

Yeah, Beltran remembers him intimately.

Little remembered is that Floyd got hurt in the same game, but did his best walking it off for what seemed like 20 minutes before managing to stay in the game to keep the team from getting fully sapped.