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Vic Sage Jul 07 2011 01:21 PM Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Jul 07 2011 02:07 PM

Here are the ex-Mets with ABs or IPs (on edit: for other major league teams) so far this season: AZ - 5 Xavier Nady Melvin Mora Henry Blanco Aaron Heilman JJ Putz BOS - 2 Marco Scutaro Dan Wheeler CWS - 3 Lastings Milledge Ramon Castro Phillip Humber CIN - 1 Miguel Cairo CLE - 1 Joe Smith COL - 2 Ty Wigginton Matt Lindstrom FLA - 1 Mike Cameron (formerly BOS) HOU - 3 Jeff Keppinger Nelson Figueroa Robinson Cancel KC - 2 Jeff Francoeur Bruce Chen LAA - 2 Hisanori Takahashi Scott Kazmir LAD - 1 Rod Barajas MIL- 3 Carlos Gomez Jeremy Reed Sean Green NYY - 2 Luis Ayala Gustavo Molina (edit) PHI - 2 Brian Schneider Wilson Valdez (edit) SD - 1 Heath Bell SF - 1 Guillermo mota SEA - 2 Mike Carp Jason Vargas TEX - 3 Endy Chavez Darren O'Day Darren Oliver (edit) TOR - 3 Jose Bautista Chris Woodward Octavio Dotel WAS - 4 Alex Cora Livan Hernandez Henry Rodriguez Jesus Flores

Centerfield Jul 07 2011 01:30 PM Re: former Mets at the break

Not appearing on this list: John Maine Oliver Perez Luis Castillo

Vic Sage Jul 07 2011 01:36 PM Re: former Mets at the break

1st half ex-Mets team: c - Castro 1b - XNady 2b - Keppinger ss - Scutaro 3b - Wigginton Of - J. Bautista / Cameron / J.Francoeur Bench - Schneider / Cora / Cairo / EChavez / Milledge SP - J.Vargas / H.Takahashi / Chen / Humber / Heilman RP - Bell / J. Smith / Putz / H.Rodriguez / D.O'Day / Mota / Wheeler That's not a very good team. Not a bad pen, though.

Vic Sage Jul 07 2011 01:37 PM Re: former Mets at the break

Centerfield wrote: Not appearing on this list: John Maine Oliver Perez Luis Castillo have any of them played for other teams this year?

Edgy DC Jul 07 2011 01:46 PM Re: former Mets at the break

Vic Sage wrote: Not appearing on this list: John Maine Oliver Perez Luis Castillo have any of them played for other teams this year? The Colorado Sky Sox play in an extreme hitting environment, but that hardly goes the distance in explaining John Maine's 1-3, 7.43 line for them. He's also been a real wild child, walking a Nuke Laloosh-like 37 batters in 46 innings. Oliver Perez is 2-1, 2.48 in six starts with the Harrisburg Senators. Most impressive is the mere five walks to go along with 25 strikeouts in 29 innings. But it's the Eastern League.

Vic Sage Jul 07 2011 01:50 PM Re: former Mets at the break

ok, so that's a "no" then.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2011 01:52 PM Re: former Mets at the break

Vic, I cross-checked your list against what I have here. You had a few that I missed, and it looks like you're missing Wilson Valdez in Philadelphia, Darren Oliver in Texas, and Gustavo Molina in the Bronx.

seawolf17 Jul 07 2011 02:01 PM Re: former Mets at the break

And some of those guys (Carp, Bautista) weren't *technically* Mets.

Vic Sage Jul 07 2011 02:04 PM Re: former Mets at the break

thanks Grimm, i overlooked them. And if i knew you had that list, i wouldn't have bothered with it myself. As for carp and bautista, i included anybody who was ever in the organization, whether or not they ever had an appearance with the major league club. There may be others i missed. please fill in the gaps.

G-Fafif Jul 07 2011 02:22 PM Re: former Mets at the break

Jose Bautista and his hours as a Met, per Mike Sielski of WSJ. On that day in 2004, though, Bautista was just a means to an end for the Mets. Trying to use the trade deadline to vault themselves back into playoff contention, they acquired him from the Kansas City Royals for minor-league catcher Justin Huber, doing so for the sole purpose of sending him to the Pittsburgh Pirates. Bautista's temporary presence on the Mets' roster allowed them to consummate a trade for the player they most coveted at the time: pitcher Kris Benson. "I kind of got blindsided by everything," Bautista told a reporter from the Providence Journal on Wednesday. "They called me into the office. The three-way trade was already worked out. You have to go through some paperwork, so [the Royals] pulled me off the field and told me to go home and that I was going to be going back to Pittsburgh...I didn't really know about the Mets being part of the deal until the next day." On the day of the three-team deal, the Mets were 49-52 and six games behind the first-place Atlanta Braves in the NL East, and Jim Duquette, then the team's general manager, had targeted Benson to improve their starting rotation. Despite his team's losing record, Duquette wasn't ready to write off the postseason. "We felt, 'We're this close. We're going to go for it,'" he said. Already that day, Duquette had traded Scott Kazmir, the organization's top pitching prospect, to Tampa Bay for veteran right-hander Victor Zambrano, who, because of elbow injuries, would start only three games in '04 for the Mets. Duquette wanted Benson, too, but Pirates general manager Dave Littlefield had insisted that Pittsburgh had to get a third baseman in return. "Every time I called him and asked him, 'Are you ready to move Benson?' he'd say, 'Are you ready to move David Wright?' And we'd kind of laugh and chuckle," Duquette said. "I'd say, 'I can't do that.'" (Littlefield is now a scout for the Chicago Cubs. Attempts to reach him through the team's media-relations department were unsuccessful.) Bautista, meanwhile, had been a 20th-round draft pick of the Pirates in 2000 before his troubadour-like 2004 season. The Orioles had selected him in the Rule 5 draft, and he ricocheted from Baltimore to Tampa Bay to Kansas City before Pittsburgh saw a chance to get him back. And because the Mets believed Huber's growth as a hitter had stalled, they considered him expendable. "He was nobody at the time," Huber said. "So was I." The organization's scouting reports on Bautista were skeletal at best, according to Duquette, and since the Mets didn't know much about him, they never considered keeping him. "No one saw this coming," Duquette said. "If they did, they're lying." So the Mets didn't hesitate to send Bautista, infielder Ty Wigginton and minor-league pitcher Matt Peterson to Pittsburgh for Benson and second baseman Jeff Keppinger. "I finally had some peace of mind knowing that I was at least going to finish that season with a team," Bautista said.

Edgy DC Jul 07 2011 02:52 PM Re: former Mets at the break

Dave Littlefield: not known for picking a lot of pockets.

RealityChuck Jul 07 2011 04:27 PM Re: former Mets at the break

Vic Sage wrote: 1st half ex-Mets team: c - Castro 1b - XNady 2b - Keppinger ss - Scutaro 3b - Wigginton Of - J. Bautista / Cameron / J.Francoeur Bench - Schneider / Cora / Cairo / EChavez / Milledge SP - J.Vargas / H.Takahashi / Chen / Humber / Heilman RP - Bell / J. Smith / Putz / H.Rodriguez / D.O'Day / Mota / Wheeler That's not a very good team. Not a bad pen, though. I used to play a game of finding all the ex-Mets and comparing them to the people on the current roster. This was pretty depressing back in the 70s. I'd say the starters are better on the Mets this year (even better if you don't count injuries) and the starting pitchers are slightly better, too. Relief might be slightly worse.