Jul 13 2011 06:41 AM
We have a void. but not shortage of options to fill it, and it's a good chance for Terry make a statement as it were.
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Number One Reliever
| 1) Manny Acosta | 0 votes |
| 2) Pedro Beato | 5 votes |
| 3) Tim Byrdak | 0 votes |
| 4) D.J. Carrasco | 0 votes |
| 5) Ryota Igarashi | 0 votes |
| 6) Jason Isringhausen | 6 votes |
| 7) Michael O'Connor | 0 votes |
| 8) Bobby Parnell | 11 votes |
| 9) Johan Santana | 1 votes |
| 10) Dale Thayer | 0 votes |
| Edgy DC Jul 13 2011 06:41 AM |
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We have a void. but not shortage of options to fill it, and it's a good chance for Terry make a statement as it were.
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| RealityChuck Jul 13 2011 06:50 AM Re: Number One Releiever |
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Izzy until the end of the season (or until he's traded); Parnell in 2012.
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| Ceetar Jul 13 2011 06:52 AM Re: Number One Releiever |
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I don't think anything is even close to set for 2012 yet. It's probably going to start as Parnell, and maybe he holds on to it, but I don't think anythings going to be set in stone as that. I voted Johan though. that'd be fun. Also, Johan (although this is still a ways off) being the guy replacing him on the roster (as they did in reverse in April) would be much better than Igarashi.
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| soupcan Jul 13 2011 06:56 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Doesn't matter to me.
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| TheOldMole Jul 13 2011 07:01 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Parnell. The heat.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jul 13 2011 07:01 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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I voted Parnell, but I agree with soupcan.
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| metirish Jul 13 2011 07:06 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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this...
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| Ceetar Jul 13 2011 07:06 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Well yeah, I doubt Terry's gonna keep a guy there if he struggles just because he called him a 'closer'. Judging by last Sunday's game, I expect it'll be Niese on days he doesn't pitch.
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| Edgy DC Jul 13 2011 07:08 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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I'm kind of asking who it's going to be, rather than who we want it to be. (Maybe I should have asked that.)
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| metsmarathon Jul 13 2011 07:08 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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this year, izzy's shut down righties, while parnell shuts down righties. i'd be ok with using them based on the coming matchups.
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| TransMonk Jul 13 2011 07:20 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Izzy until he's traded, then Parnell.
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| Edgy DC Jul 13 2011 07:22 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Hmmm, Izzy just as a showcase. Interesting.
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| TransMonk Jul 13 2011 07:26 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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BOC!
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2011 08:28 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Yeah, the Mets will go with Izzy until he's traded to the Cardinals next week, then Bobby Pee.
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| Vic Sage Jul 13 2011 08:35 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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This. Sandy is smart enough to try and boost Izzy's value and then dump him. Izzy, however, may not help matters by sucking, which he mostly has recently, after a good start. Obviously, Parnell and Beato have the "stuff", but I'd love Terry to take the initiative to simply match relievers to situations and give the ball to the guy with the best shot in a particular circumstance. High Leverage situation = best available pitcher. Of course, i wanted Terry to do that with F-Rod this season, so we could keep a good arm in the pen AND avoid him vesting for 2012. But he's not that bold, and i don't think he'll do the bullpen-by-committee thing now either, despite the chance it could maximize the pen's strengths and minimize its weaknesses, without over-inflating value of 50 IP guys.
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| Edgy DC Jul 13 2011 08:41 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Hopefully a few days off gets Izz back on track.
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| Ashie62 Jul 13 2011 09:04 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Skip Lockwood is back in training.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2011 09:11 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Izzy's been a lucky, lucky boy on the mound this year. Pump up the value, then sell him back to the Cards (I really like the idea of selling the best fans in the country overpriced sentiment, right after giving the Brewers the actual onfield goodstuff).
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| Vic Sage Jul 13 2011 09:12 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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send him back, with smallpox-infested blankets!
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2011 09:13 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Right as rain, pilgrim.
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| sharpie Jul 13 2011 09:14 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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K-Rod to the Brewers, Izzy to the Cards, Beltran to the Pirates: who do we send to the Reds so that we can have a ringer for all contenders in the NL Central?
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| TransMonk Jul 13 2011 09:19 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Big Pelf?
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2011 09:21 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Misch, obviously. (For PTbNL [crossout:1qap7nbr]Harry Chiti[/crossout:1qap7nbr] Pat Misch.)
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| MFS62 Jul 13 2011 09:28 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Beato has shown the stuff. But IIRC earlier in the year there were several quotes from members of the organization that they are planning to send him to AAA next year (once the Rule V restriction is ended) to complete his Jedi training as a starter.
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| Vic Sage Jul 13 2011 09:30 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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santana's owed more than $50m for 2012/2013 seasons. Think they'll take him? What if we package him with Bay ($35m)? Hell, i'd settle for dumping Carrasco's $1.2m for next season. Every little bit helps the Reyes fund.
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| Edgy DC Jul 13 2011 09:47 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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I don't recall those quotes. The Mets only got him because his development fell behind schedule due to his failure as a starter. It wasn't until last year in Bowie that he moved to the pen and showed the potential on field that he had been drafted for.
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| G-Fafif Jul 13 2011 05:28 PM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Just occurred to me that we had a non-K-Rod closer for a month and a half last season, Hisanori Takahashi. He had no track record in that role (15 saves in Japan in 2006, otherwise a starter there) and he was perfectly fine.
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| Edgy DC Jul 19 2011 07:00 PM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Last money on the table here.
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| Edgy DC Jul 19 2011 07:07 PM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Showcasing Izzy in front of his potential buyers? Maybe?
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| TransMonk Jul 20 2011 06:44 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Maybe. I think he's the right choice anyhow given his experience.
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| Ceetar Jul 20 2011 06:46 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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someone did suggest that he wanted to get to 300 saves and they'll give him the opportunity.
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| MFS62 Jul 20 2011 08:06 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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And while Izzy is closing, Parnell has slid quite comfortably into the "scare the crap out of the fans in the eighth inning" bullpen spot.
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| Vic Sage Jul 20 2011 08:24 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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the "right choice" to do what, exactly? To help the Mets develop their next closer? No? Oh, you mean to win more games THIS year. Well, even that's a coin flip, given his peripherals (as compared to Parnell and Beato), but that can't be what Sandy has in mind for the balance of the 2011 season. He's rebuilding Izzie's value for a deadline deal. Otherwise, this is just a stupid waste of valuable time in the development of closers for this organization's future.
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| Ceetar Jul 20 2011 08:26 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Yes, Parnell having to face Pujols with two on in a 2-run game hurt his development because it was in the 8th inning.
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| Edgy DC Jul 20 2011 08:32 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Two on? Bases were totally jizzed, Cee.
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| Vic Sage Jul 20 2011 08:35 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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well at least we agree on something.
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| Ceetar Jul 20 2011 08:44 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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doh, how could I forget the awesome defensive play by The 7 to keep the ball in the infield?
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| TransMonk Jul 20 2011 09:03 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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Pitching with a 2 run lead in the eighth vs. pitching with a 2 run lead in the ninth...what's the difference in terms of the "development of a closer"?
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| Ceetar Jul 20 2011 09:06 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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well obviously since it was the 8th inning Parnell just couldn't get the adrenaline going, which is why he loaded the bases.
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| Edgy DC Jul 20 2011 09:12 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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The sarcasm awash in this thread is enough to drown a man.
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| batmagadanleadoff Jul 20 2011 09:32 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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I like it.
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| batmagadanleadoff Jul 20 2011 09:33 AM Re: Number One Reliever |
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I especially like this one.
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