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Edgy DC Jul 23 2011 10:57 AM

Younger brother of Sting and Julian Sands goes apeshit, kills 92. Harrsh world.

TransMonk Jul 23 2011 11:07 AM Re: Norway

Extremely sad. And completely shocking.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 23 2011 11:14 AM Re: Norway

The second half of it being all the more obscene for being an attack on kids. I mean, not to be flip... but Norway?

TransMonk Jul 23 2011 11:20 AM Re: Norway

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I mean, not to be flip... but Norway? That was my first reaction.

themetfairy Jul 23 2011 11:59 AM Re: Norway

As a parent, the shooting at the camp breaks my heart. All I can think about is how MK loves going to Boy Scout camp, and how those kids were just like him....

Edgy DC Jul 23 2011 12:27 PM Re: Norway

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The second half of it being all the more obscene for being an attack on kids. I mean, not to be flip... but Norway? Hate and intolerance are everywhere. The scary thing is when you meet somebody who more or less agrees with you about stuff, but is completely off his or her rocker.

Willets Point Jul 23 2011 12:31 PM Re: Norway

So it wasn't Al Qaeda? Because the "news" outlets were trumpeting with great certitude that it was Al Qaeda yesterday. I wonder what made them jump to making such an uninformed pronouncement.

Edgy DC Jul 23 2011 12:55 PM Re: Norway

Which news outlets jumped the gun?

Willets Point Jul 23 2011 12:58 PM Re: Norway

It's all I heard yesterday.

Edgy DC Jul 23 2011 01:03 PM Re: Norway

It's really all you heard? Here we go: Jennifer Rubin at the Post is one. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/arc ... ds/242405/ She drew from the Weekly Standard: posting.php?mode=reply&f=2&t=16585

TransMonk Jul 25 2011 09:28 AM Re: Norway

Death toll revised downward from 93 to 76. Don't see that too often.

soupcan Jul 25 2011 09:31 AM Re: Norway

TransMonk wrote: Death toll revised downward from 93 to 76. Don't see that too often. Zombies?

Willets Point Jul 25 2011 10:13 AM Re: Norway

Edgy DC wrote: It's really all you heard? Yep, that's all I heard on Friday when I was surfing the web for updates. I wasn't following the news at all from Friday evening until I saw your post on Saturday which is where I learned it was actually Norwegian extremist. This article mentions some more of the knee jerk responses on Friday.

Frayed Knot Jul 25 2011 10:20 AM Re: Norway

Death toll revised downward from 93 to 76. Don't see that too often. In the early days after 9/11 the death toll estimate was close to double what it eventually wound up being. But after some companies simply submitted lists of employees without noting which ones were on vacation, out of town, or simply late to work, and other lists figured out that John Smith, Jack Smith, John H. Smith, and J. Smith Jr. were one person and not four, the initial 5,000+ number (or 15,000 as per the NYPost) slowly worked its way down to below 3K. As far as I know no one actually came back to life.

Edgy DC Jul 27 2011 07:22 AM Re: Norway

Text conversation betweem mother and daughter, translated from Norwegian, apparently by someone who doesn't believe in contractions. Jule: 'Mom, don't panic, but there's a gunman going loose here and shooting around, and you must call the police because I have tried, and I can't reach them. Julie: Mummy, tell the police that they must be quick. People are dying here! Mother: I'm working on it, Julie. The police are on their way. Dare you call me? Julie: No. Julie: Tell the police that there is a mad man running around and shooting people. Julie: They must hurry! Mother: The police know and they have had many calls. It is going well, Julie. Police are calling us now. Give us a sign of life every five minutes please? Julie: OK. Julie: We are in fear for our lives. Mother: I understand that very well, my darling. Stay hidden, do not move anywhere! The police are already on their way, if they haven't already arrived! Do you see anyone injured or killed? Julie: We are hiding in the rocks along the coast. Mother: Good! Should I ask your grandfather to come down and pick you up when everything is safe again? You have the option. Julie: Yes. Mother: We will contact Grandpa immediately. Julie: I love you even if I still misbehave from time to time. Julie: And I'm not panicking even if I'm shit scared. Mother: I know that my darling. We love you too very much. Do you still hear shooting? Julie: No. Mother: Have you heard anything from the other people from Troms? Grandpa is on his way down. Julie: The police are here. Mother: The person shooting is said to be in police uniform. Be careful! What happens to you now? Julie: We do not know. Mother: Can you talk now? Julie: No. He is still shooting! Mother: Joergen has swum to the shore. I just spoke to his father. This is everywhere on the national news now, all attention on Utoya now. Be careful! When you get the chance, you come to the mainland and stay with Grandpa of Hamar. Julie: I'm still alive. Mother: And thanks and praise for that. Julie: We are waiting to be picked up by the police. We heard shooting just now, so we dared not get up. Mother: Good! Good, well done. The evacuation is now ongoing, they are saying on TV. Julie: We hope we will be picked up by someone soon. Can they not catch him soon?! Mother: The anti-terrorism unit is there and they are working on catching him. Julie: OK. Mother: Should we try to get the flight home tomorrow? Julie: I have no time to think about that now. Mother: I understand that. Julie: Do you know if they have managed to catch him? Mother: Will keep you posted, my darling. We are following everything on television. Mother: Hey, are you there? Julie: Yes. The helicopters are circling above us. Mother: Then you should be OK? Julie: They are looking for people in the water, we have not been picked up yet! Julie: What are they saying in the news? Mother: The police are also arriving by boat to Utoya, otherwise nothing new. It is not clear what's happened to the shooter so keep still. Wait for someone to pick you up. Mother: Now they have taken him!

Willets Point Jul 27 2011 07:28 AM Re: Norway

I want to see one last text from Julie at the end there.

Edgy DC Jul 27 2011 07:37 AM Re: Norway

Marianne and Julie:

Willets Point Jul 27 2011 07:51 AM Re: Norway

Thanks.