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Memories of Carlos Beltran

themetfairy
Jul 27 2011 04:14 PM

He played through pain so bravely that people forgot just what a warrior he was. From the Mike Cameron crash to his balky knee issues, he put his heart and soul on the field for us.

And I'll miss hearing Eres Aqui. Whenever I hear it on a Mets Classics broadcast, it'll be bittersweet.

Thank you Carlos for all that you gave us.


Ceetar
Jul 27 2011 04:26 PM
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game 1 NLCS, 2-run bomb accounting for the only runs.

TransMonk
Jul 27 2011 04:32 PM
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My two favorite regular season games in 2006 were both Carlos walk-off home runs.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes ... 5230.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes ... 8220.shtml

That was one of the best single offensive seasons I've seen in my Met watching history.

He was under-appreciated while he was here and should go down as one of the all-time greats to wear the orange and blue.

bmfc1
Jul 27 2011 04:41 PM
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I'm with Transmonk. I thought of those two. And his slide last night on the sac fly. I was cursing Bay for not hitting it far enough and somehow Carlos beat throw and the tag. A final great act as a Met.

G-Fafif
Jul 27 2011 04:43 PM
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[youtube:x16p9cux]IpYC1aZEq5M[/youtube:x16p9cux]

G-Fafif
Jul 27 2011 04:44 PM
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Last home run ever at Shea Stadium.

Last good one, anyway.

G-Fafif
Jul 27 2011 04:47 PM
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The three homers in Colorado.

The answer slide in Philadelphia last September.

Being smart enough to not take the Mets' doctors' word for anything.

The reluctant curtain call early in 2006.

The catch on Tal's Hill. His face taking on the bullpen fence there, too.

Climbing the fence to take away a homer against the Cardinals on a Sunday afternoon in 2008 while a bird flew by.

The mole. Seriously, what a mole.

And what a player.

metirish
Jul 27 2011 04:58 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 27 2011 05:10 PM

That 2006 season , pretty special. I'll remember him as part of the whole Los Mets thing, which I liked.

Edgy DC
Jul 27 2011 05:06 PM
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The boos on opening day 2006. That and the pre-emptive cries for Miguel Cairo to displace Kaz Matsui really let on what a disgustingly gross percentage of the Mets fanbase were really Yankee fans in disguise, slumming in Flushing because they couldn't afford the Bronx.

I loved his work going back on balls, as best exemplified on Tal's hill in Houston, and I loved how he turned on high pitches. I love how he took the shit about visiting Walter Read with aplomb while I would have gone a little crazy. I love how he loved me.

He's my new all-time 15.

Met Hunter
Jul 27 2011 05:48 PM
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That's not a mole. I call it the Cocoa Puff.

attgig
Jul 27 2011 05:54 PM
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screw the mets docs, he's going to get his knee fixed.
opening day 2007 - perfect strike to lo duca - http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/media/playe ... tp_350.wmv
the collision... wow. how you come back from that... crazy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 27 2011 05:59 PM
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The home run against the Braves that helped the Mets win for the first time in 2005.

The next 6 years are a blur.

dgwphotography
Jul 27 2011 06:08 PM
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Frankly, he was the best center fielder the mets ever had.

metsmarathon
Jul 27 2011 06:16 PM
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if only all ballplayers were as soft as carlos.

Edgy DC
Jul 27 2011 06:28 PM
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"If Beltran is soft, give me more soft players."

--- Centerfield, 2009

Frayed Knot
Jul 27 2011 06:47 PM
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I like that even though the trade isn't official yet, and that Giants are starting a series in Cincinnati on Friday, Carlos has already jumped a plane to Philly so he can help his new team kick their asses tomorrow afternoon.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 27 2011 08:19 PM
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Vanis takee, Carlos!

I don't know if it's at all likely, but I'm hoping to see you back in Port St. Lucie next February.

Gwreck
Jul 27 2011 08:31 PM
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Most of the best memories were already covered above but let's not forget going 3-3 with 4 runs scored and 2 homers in the critical game 5 of the NLCS.

Greg made a reference to it but Beltran's catch on July 27, 2008 in the midst of a complete game Santana victory was my second-favorite defensive play by Carlos. Link to video can be found here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 27 2011 08:58 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
"If Beltran is soft, give me more soft players."

--- Centerfield, 2009


metsmarathon wrote:
if only all ballplayers were as soft as carlos.


Forget, for a minute, the "best centerfielder" thing (though he was). Forget "best all-around Met ever" (though he may have been).

Forget Lenny, Wally, and all the dirt-on-the-uniform types. Hell, forget Bad Dude, even. What we have (or had) in Carlos Beltran-- playing almost from the moment he put on the stripes with cartilage-free knees, and playing damn well, and making nary a peep about it (except to make awkward trash talk and/or boring copy)-- is probably the toughest, grittiest Met there ever was or will be.

Ceetar
Jul 27 2011 09:10 PM
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It's close, 44 more games with the Mets and he was better, if slight, with the Mets, but Beltran will always be a Met first, and that includes if he one day ends up in the Hall of Fame.

He's almost definitely going to become only the 8th player _ever_ to be a 300/300 player (5 HR, 8 SB) and he's got the best stolen base percentage _ever_. And he's a Met.

MFS62
Jul 27 2011 09:25 PM
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The best all around centerfielder to play for the Mets. (Not counting Mays who was past his prime as a Met.)
Good guy, very good player.
I'll miss him.

Later

Fman99
Jul 28 2011 02:00 AM
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Julio Franco prodding his ass out of the dugout in 2006 for a curtain call after that early season HR.

Fare thee well, Carlos. Loved watching this guy hit, run down balls in center field, and make it all look stupid easy, like he was in a sandlot game against a bunch of moes.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 28 2011 04:52 AM
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I got to see him his a grand slam in Detroit last month! That was pretty exciting.

HahnSolo
Jul 28 2011 07:16 AM
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The two defensive plays in Houston: the extra-inning catch on the hill; and the running into the wall play in 06. That one hampered him down the stretch. His 2006 is probably the best offensive season in Met history...his numbers would have been even more through the roof if he was 100% that final month.

Centerfield
Jul 28 2011 08:27 AM
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Too many to run down in one post, hell even one thread.

Is it too early to re-sign him? I mean, do we technically have to wait until the season is over?

metirish
Jul 28 2011 08:33 AM
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Did he die or just get traded?

Ceetar
Jul 28 2011 08:35 AM
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tedquarters.net has a bunch of clips up.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 28 2011 08:44 AM
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His 2006 season was, give or take, the best I've ever seen out of a Met (Reyes is doing the same sort of thing this year).

I thought he had the best batting eye I'd seen since Olerud. He would spit on pitches fractions of an inch low or high. When he didn't swing you-know-when, I took it to mean that that pitch simply couldn't have been hit. Because Carlos's eye said so.

I'll miss watching him play for the Mets terribly.

Edgy DC
Jul 28 2011 08:55 AM
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The best season out of a Met is Gooden '85. The more time passes, the more I realize how hard it would be hard for a batter (or pitcher) to achieve it's equivelant.

But yeah.

soupcan
Jul 28 2011 09:17 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
The catch on Tal's Hill. His face taking on the bullpen fence there, too.

The mole. Seriously, what a mole.


Both of those.

My family named the mole 'Enrique'.

attgig
Jul 28 2011 09:21 AM
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nice graphic on amazin ave:


http://www.amazinavenue.com/2011/7/28/2 ... glory-that

Edgy DC
Jul 28 2011 09:39 AM
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Mercy sakes!

Met Survivors of Brutal Head-to-head Outfield Collisions:

Hahn
Theodore
Mazzilli
Norman
Cameron
Beltran

Gwreck
Jul 28 2011 10:52 AM
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Not that he died or anything, but the collision was the last play of Cameron's Mets career so I don't know if he goes with the "survivors."

Gwreck
Jul 28 2011 10:53 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
tedquarters.net has a bunch of clips up.


They are:
8/22/06, the walk-off homer against the Cardinals

and two that I had forgotten about:

June 11, 2008, walk-off homer against the Diamondbacks in the 13th inning
September 8, 2006, robs JD Drew of what would have been a back-to-back homer.

attgig
Jul 28 2011 10:55 AM
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Mercy sakes!

Met Survivors of Brutal Head-to-head Outfield Collisions:

Hahn
Theodore
Mazzilli
Norman
Cameron
Beltran


I believe wilson & dykstra had a horrible head to head collision in left center.

seawolf17
Jul 28 2011 12:17 PM
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Mercy sakes!

Met Survivors of Brutal Head-to-head Outfield Collisions:

Hahn
Theodore
Mazzilli
Norman
Cameron
Beltran


I believe wilson & dykstra had a horrible head to head collision in left center.

No, that was... Mookie and Terry Blocker? John Christensen and Terry Blocker? For some reason, I remember Blocker being involved.

Frayed Knot
Jul 28 2011 12:18 PM
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Mercy sakes!

Met Survivors of Brutal Head-to-head Outfield Collisions:

Hahn
Theodore
Mazzilli
Norman
Cameron
Beltran


I believe wilson & dykstra had a horrible head to head collision in left center.


Face-to-Face even.

attgig
Jul 28 2011 12:27 PM
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Mercy sakes!

Met Survivors of Brutal Head-to-head Outfield Collisions:

Hahn
Theodore
Mazzilli
Norman
Cameron
Beltran


I believe wilson & dykstra had a horrible head to head collision in left center.

No, that was... Mookie and Terry Blocker? John Christensen and Terry Blocker? For some reason, I remember Blocker being involved.


the one i'm thinking of is definitely mookie and dykstra. they went face to face (as fk pointed out), and i remember after they collided, one of them raised their glove to tell everyone else they made the catch. later on, I remember mookie having a bandaid on his eyebrow because i think it was dykstra's teeth that opened a cut there.

metsmarathon
Jul 28 2011 01:02 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
The best season out of a Met is Gooden '85. The more time passes, the more I realize how hard it would be hard for a batter (or pitcher) to achieve it's equivelant.

But yeah.



fangraphs has it as 9.0 WAR. david wright's '07 they have at 8.9.

bbref on the other hand, has it at 11.7 WAR. only 19 times has a batter topped that mark - a list comprised of the names ruth, hornsby, bonds, mantle, yaz, gehrig, morgan, cobb, and williams.
bbref also has it as the 5th best year since 1900, and 3rd best since 1920. only carlton'72 and gibson'68 were better.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 28 2011 02:52 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
The best season out of a Met is Gooden '85. The more time passes, the more I realize how hard it would be hard for a batter (or pitcher) to achieve it's equivelant.

But yeah.



Whoops, I meant best season from a position player.

Rockin' Doc
Jul 28 2011 06:26 PM
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Beltran was one of the best players to play for the Mets. He played hard (he was just so damn smooth that it didn't look like it) and was never fully embraced by many of the Mets fan base. I'll miss him, but it was time for the Mets to move him and get what they could. I wish him well.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 12 2011 10:47 AM
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I had this prepared in case Carlos won the Schaefer POTM in July, which he nearly did. I guess I'll use it here.

Edgy DC
Aug 12 2011 10:58 AM
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Wonderful.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 12 2011 11:21 AM
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That's nice you got the sig on there

Willets Point
Aug 12 2011 12:08 PM
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Mercy sakes!

Met Survivors of Brutal Head-to-head Outfield Collisions:

Hahn
Theodore
Mazzilli
Norman
Cameron
Beltran


I believe wilson & dykstra had a horrible head to head collision in left center.

No, that was... Mookie and Terry Blocker? John Christensen and Terry Blocker? For some reason, I remember Blocker being involved.


the one i'm thinking of is definitely mookie and dykstra. they went face to face (as fk pointed out), and i remember after they collided, one of them raised their glove to tell everyone else they made the catch. later on, I remember mookie having a bandaid on his eyebrow because i think it was dykstra's teeth that opened a cut there.


Eww...I don't want to think about what may have been on Dyktra's teeth.

The Mookie-Lenny collision occurred during Doc Gooden's first start after cocaine rehab in 1987.

themetfairy
Aug 12 2011 12:11 PM
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Mercy sakes!

Met Survivors of Brutal Head-to-head Outfield Collisions:

Hahn
Theodore
Mazzilli
Norman
Cameron
Beltran


I believe wilson & dykstra had a horrible head to head collision in left center.

No, that was... Mookie and Terry Blocker? John Christensen and Terry Blocker? For some reason, I remember Blocker being involved.


the one i'm thinking of is definitely mookie and dykstra. they went face to face (as fk pointed out), and i remember after they collided, one of them raised their glove to tell everyone else they made the catch. later on, I remember mookie having a bandaid on his eyebrow because i think it was dykstra's teeth that opened a cut there.


Eww...I don't want to think about what may have been on Dyktra's teeth.

The Mookie-Lenny collision occurred during Doc Gooden's first start after cocaine rehab in 1987.


D-Dad and I were there for that - I remember the two of them twirling around, and Dykstra lifting the glove to show that he still had the ball.

Gwreck
Aug 12 2011 07:26 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:


I had this prepared in case Carlos won the Schaefer POTM in July, which he nearly did. I guess I'll use it here.


That's quite nice. I really miss him already.