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Infield triple

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2011 06:41 PM

A little rain-[crossout:3uab7xaf]delay[/crossout:3uab7xaf]out theatre Brendan Ryan makes the Oakland defense look pretty silly ... and, no, Daniel Murphy was NOT spotted anywhere on the field. [youtube:3uab7xaf]8aOP9BIy8kI[/youtube:3uab7xaf] Apparently he only gets credit for a single although no errors were given on the play.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2011 07:12 PM Re: Infield triple

Dog days, baby. Wish I saw more of that. Did he get plunked the next time up?

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2011 07:26 PM Re: Infield triple

If I were the pitcher I'd plunk my infielders.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2011 08:12 PM Re: Infield triple

Agreed but... that's not the way they do it.

MFS62 Aug 03 2011 08:33 PM Re: Infield triple

That's like something a twelve year old would do to his seven year old brother's pee wee team to show them what NOT to do when playing infield. Later

Ceetar Aug 04 2011 06:42 AM Re: Infield triple

it's amazing how long he stops at each base before advancing too. I think that might be the main reason he didn't get a triple.

attgig Aug 04 2011 09:27 AM Re: Infield triple

so, how does he get to third in official scoring? advancing on the throw?

Edgy DC Aug 04 2011 09:29 AM Re: Infield triple

I'm going to guess defensive indifference. I think it most resembles a stolen base, but I couldn't score it that way, because the play isn't over until the pitcher toes the rubber again, even if everybody thinks it is.

Ceetar Aug 04 2011 09:41 AM Re: Infield triple

(g) The official scorer shall not score a stolen base when a runner advances solely because of the defensive team's indifference to the runner?s advance. The official scorer shall score such a play as a fielder's choice. Rule 10.07(g) Comment: The scorer shall consider, in judging whether the defensive team has been indifferent to a runner?s advance, the totality of the circumstances, including the inning and score of the game, whether the defensive team had held the runner on base, whether the pitcher had made any pickoff attempts on that runner before the runner?s advance, whether the fielder ordinarily expected to cover the base to which the runner advanced made a move to cover such base, whether the defensive team had a legitimate strategic motive to not contest the runner?s advance or whether the defensive team might be trying impermissibly to deny the runner credit for a stolen base. For example, with runners on first and third bases, the official scorer should ordinarily credit a stolen base when the runner on first advances to second, if, in the scorer?s judgment, the defensive team had a legitimate strategic motive?namely, preventing the runner on third base from scoring on the throw to second base?not to contest the runner?s advance to second base. The official scorer may conclude that the defensive team is impermissibly trying to deny a runner credit for a stolen base if, for example, the defensive team fails to defend the advance of a runner approaching a league or career record or a league statistical title. so yeah, basically defensive indifference. I'd have to watch again, but I guess you could award SB if at some point the fielders made moves to get the ball or cover the bag (as the third baseman kinda did)

Frayed Knot Aug 04 2011 10:31 AM Re: Infield triple

Nothing in what Oakland was doing showed "indifference" though, more like bases left uncovered because they didn't think he'd go. But that's a lot different from deciding that you don't care if he goes because you'd rather plug the hole or because his run doesn't mean anything. I'd have given him a triple.

Ceetar Aug 04 2011 11:35 AM Re: Infield triple

Frayed Knot wrote: Nothing in what Oakland was doing showed "indifference" though, more like bases left uncovered because they didn't think he'd go. But that's a lot different from deciding that you don't care if he goes because you'd rather plug the hole or because his run doesn't mean anything. I'd have given him a triple. The rule doesn't seem to differentiate intentional indifference though.

Centerfield Aug 04 2011 11:58 AM Re: Infield triple

It's the first inning with one out. There is no way in the world that is indifference. I'd score it a triple based on the options presented. But if I were king, he'd be credited with an infield single, then two bases on defensive incompetence.

attgig Aug 04 2011 01:53 PM Re: Infield triple

how about a single and two bases on baserunning awesomeness?

attgig Aug 04 2011 01:53 PM Re: Infield triple

and speaking of... it's been a while since the last reyes triple... is he going to hit those milestones everyone was talkinga bout?