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Broadway season 2011-2012
Vic Sage Aug 02 2011 03:31 PM Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Sep 28 2011 02:59 PM |
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Another Openin', another show. A new season is upon us, so here we go again:
Also announced for this season, so far (in chronological order): MASTER CLASS - Revival of Terrence McNally's play about Maria Callas, with Tyne Daly FOLLIES - Revival of Sondheim's glorious tribute to show folk of yesteryear, and to roads not taken, stars Bernadette Peters MAN & BOY - Revival of Brit playwright Terrence Rattigan's play about the ruthlessness in businesses and families, with Frank Langella THE MOUNTAINTOP - Samuel L. Jackson and Angela Bassett, in a new play by Katori Hall about MLK,jr. RELATIVELY SPEAKING - John Turturro directs a trilogy of comedic 1-acts by Elaine May, Woody Allen and Ethan Coen. OTHER DESERT CITIES - family tragedies by Jon Robbie Baitz, with Stockard Channing, brought back by Lincoln Center CHINGLISH - Henry David Hwang's new comedy about US-Chinese communication, with GODSPELL - Revival of the classic Stephen Schwartz musical... The Gospel according to St. Matthew, 1970's style. VENUS IN FUR - David Ives' sexy off-Broadway play comes to The Roundabout, with Nina Arianda PRIVATE LIVES - Kim Catrall in this revival of a Noel Coward comedy AN EVENING with PATTI LUPONE & MANDY PATINKIN - They're in concert BONNIE & CLYDE - Frank Wildhorne's new musical STICK FLY - Alicia Keyes is co-producing this dramedy about race and class by Lydia Diamond ON A CLEAR DAY YOU CAN SEE FOREVER - Peter Parnell has rewritten the Alan Jay Lerner book to make the great Burton Lane score producible, with Harry Connick. PORGY & BESS - Audra McDonald headlines this revival coming to Broadway from ART/Boston. WIT - Cynthia Nixon stars in this revival of the pulitzer winner. THE COLUMNIST - John Lithgow stars in a new play by David Auburn REBECCA - Viennese musical based on the Daphne du Maurier novel is adapted by Christopher Hampton
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themetfairy Aug 02 2011 04:04 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
I know you'll think less of me Vic, but I'm looking forward to Rebecca. I loved the novel.
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Edgy MD Aug 02 2011 09:45 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Samuel L. as MLK? That's a mindbender. Leaving aside that the guy is about to start collecting Social Security and King died at 39, he once took MLK, Sr. as a hostage.
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Vic Sage Aug 02 2011 09:56 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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whatever floats yer boat, sweetcheeks. It all pays my rent.
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Vic Sage Aug 18 2011 11:36 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Vic Sage Sep 28 2011 03:12 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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sharpie Sep 28 2011 04:10 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Seeing it Saturday afternoon.
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Vic Sage Sep 29 2011 10:54 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
let us know what you think.
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Valadius Sep 29 2011 11:09 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Where's The Best Man?
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Vic Sage Sep 29 2011 11:31 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
i'm right here.
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TransMonk Sep 29 2011 01:58 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Back in in my just-out-of-high-school thesbian days, I played Young Ben in a local production of Follies.
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Edgy MD Sep 29 2011 02:01 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
I think Broadway needs more Sex & the City actresses. That would get me out more.
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Vic Sage Oct 03 2011 12:06 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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so? whadja think?
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sharpie Oct 03 2011 02:21 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
I liked it a lot.
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Vic Sage Oct 05 2011 10:40 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Des MacAnuff's production of JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR is planned to come down from Stratford for a Broadway run in March.
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Vic Sage Oct 05 2011 03:11 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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2 of 4 ain't enough for you? :) well, it's MORE than enough for me. although i wouldn't mind seeing Sarah Jessica Parker again in a revival of SYLVIA. she played a dog. it was type casting.
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Edgy MD Oct 05 2011 07:34 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Irony. I was exercising irony. Clearly, somebody has done some data mining and realized the S&tC market was their target.
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MFS62 Oct 05 2011 09:25 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Vic, take a bow. That was your best review ever. Later
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Frayed Knot Oct 05 2011 09:32 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
I was thinking more about her in a revival of Equus
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Vic Sage Oct 05 2011 09:45 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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yes, that's why i had a :) thingy. and when you exercise it, is that like Pumping Irony?
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Vic Sage Oct 05 2011 09:46 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Well, they've already done that with Harry Potter. But she could go into the current production of WARHORSE.
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MFS62 Oct 06 2011 06:52 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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And that was your worst. :) Later
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Edgy MD Oct 06 2011 07:41 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
When you're sharing puns with Tony Kornheiser, you've hit the bottom of the barrel.
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Vic Sage Oct 06 2011 08:19 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
doh!
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Vic Sage Oct 12 2011 03:44 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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themetfairy Oct 12 2011 03:49 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
We just bought tickets to see Relatively Speaking in December.
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Vic Sage Nov 02 2011 03:54 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 30 2011 03:27 PM |
RELATIVELY SPEAKING – 3 comic 1-acts (from Ethan Coen, Elaine May and Woody Allen) on the general theme of family dysfunction are staged by first-time director John Turturro with widely disparate levels of success.
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themetfairy Nov 02 2011 05:48 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Thanks Vic.
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Fman99 Nov 02 2011 07:51 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Holy shit, it's a 1980's forgotten stars restrospectus! Understudies Tempestt Bledsoe, Philip Michael Thomas and ALF are all waiting in the wings.
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Vic Sage Nov 03 2011 08:09 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2011 08:29 AM |
as a haven for exiled 80s tv stars, we should note that the Allen play also features
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Vic Sage Nov 03 2011 08:18 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
also,
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Vic Sage Nov 15 2011 11:59 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
THE MOUNTAINTOP – young playwright Katori Hall has grafted her hero-worshipping hagiography of Martin Luther King onto a spiritual fantasy about King’s last night on Earth, spent in a Memphis hotel room with a new maid… or is she really a camp follower, or an FBI spy, or something else entirely? And is he seducing her, or just longing for company, a drink and a cigarette, or in need of an audience on his night in Gethsemane, as the rain pours down and the lightning flashes?
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sharpie Nov 15 2011 12:29 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Went to see SEMINAR in previews last week. Alan Rickman stars as the embittered instructor of an advanced writers workshop who systematically breaks down his students in what seems like a cruel way but ends up probably helping them all. My place of work was mentioned several times and I certainly recognized the types if not the actual people the characters might be based on. I found it to be an enjoyable evening at the theater. This is the second show I've seen Alan Rickman in this year, also saw him in Ibsen's rarely-performed "John Gabriel Borkman" at BAM in January. I discovered why that show is rarely performed but Rickman was compelling in both shows.
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Vic Sage Nov 27 2011 03:18 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 28 2011 10:45 AM |
CHINGLISH – David Henry Hwang’s new play is amusing and engaging, if not quite what it should be. A businessman is giving a lecture about doing business in China, and the play is a flashback to his experiences there. The central comic conceit is the bad ways we translate each other’s complex languages and intentions. But this play about cultural values and miscommunication probably reads better than it plays, due to a lackluster cast and generally unimaginative staging. The love story at its core is bereft of real emotional content, and so it all is a cerebral exercise… not a bad one, mind you, but not particularly memorable one either [C+]
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Vic Sage Nov 27 2011 03:35 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
VENUS IN FUR – This thrillingly erotic tragi-comedy by David Ives features another star-making performance by the brilliantly talented young actress Nina Arianda (Tony nominated last season for BORN YESTERDAY), who originally created this role off-Broadway before MTC brought it uptown. Arianda plays "Vanda", a mysterious, vulgar, funny, raw young woman who shows up unscheduled for an audition. Hugh Dancy is the playwright / director casting his play, based on Sacher-Masoch’s S&M cult classic “Venus in Furs”, about sex and power. As the audition goes on, the two act out the play within the play, as thunder clashes outside and mysteries deepen within. All the while, roles reverse and secrets reveal. Much like the movie INCEPTION, there are layers to Arianda's performance, as she plays an actress who is playing a character who adopts various roles until…well, the ending is unexpected but entirely inevitable. The play does meander a bit and, despite its humor, it ends up being the kind of feminist screed that the playwright had (rightfully) decried earlier, but its sheer theatricality overcomes the limitations of its heavy-handedness to make a truly audacious, original and effective work of drama. [A-]
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Vic Sage Nov 30 2011 03:02 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
PRIVATE LIVES - Noel Coward is the bane of my existence. His trifling sex comedies of a bygone age are so dated and irrelevant they render me nearly comatose. Yet off I go, duty bound, to sit through each new revival. I suppose that audiences may have found this comedy of manners amusingly shocking once upon a time, but who cares about this stuff anymore? It's not fast and furiously physical enough to be screwball comedy or farce, it's not sincere or melancholy enough to be poignant or moving, it has nothing on its mind beyond clichés about comically mismatched lovers that you've seen a million times, from Shakespeare to LOVEBOAT episodes. In sum, there's nothing interesting or original either in the storytelling or the story being told. Kim Catrall, at least, seems authentic in the role, but the rest of the cast is appropriately obscure. And yes, there are the standard Coward bon mots and tunefulness in evidence, and some nice design work evocative of the period, so if that's enough for you, have at it. [D+]
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MFS62 Dec 01 2011 08:24 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Vic, that's interesting. Do you go to a show with a preconceived notion of how its going to be or with an open mind? A blind dog hits an occasional fire hydrant. This may be the hit. As a reviewer, is this something you have to guard against? Later
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Vic Sage Dec 01 2011 10:52 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
I do go into every show with a hope that it'll be "good"... whatever that means. But though my hope is high,
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MFS62 Dec 01 2011 09:30 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Makes sense.
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themetfairy Dec 03 2011 07:38 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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I ultimately agree with this assessment, although I'd give George is Dead a B+ rather than an A.
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Vic Sage Dec 05 2011 02:57 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
GODSPELL - the revival of this Stephen Schwartz classic is trying SOOOOO hard to be hip and contemporary it is often, instead, just laughable. The new rock orchestrations are good in spots but sometimes overwhelm the beautiful melodies. There is a "dope" new rap version of something or other (I've already forgotten which parable they screwed up with it) which was, frankly, pandering of the most unhip sort. New topical references have been added for humor and timeliness (Donald Trump is made the rich man in hell in the Lazarus story, and the whole opening has various philosophers texting and tweeting), plus we get to see a bunch of trampolining apostles during WE BESEECH THEE… why? I don’t know, but boy it sure looks fun! And there is a lot of interactive stuff, too… audience members are brought up for Charades and Pictionary, Mardi Gras beads are thrown out into the crowd, tinsel cannons are shot off, and the audience is invited up onto the stage during intermission to share grape juice with the cast. In fact, this show is over-directed within an inch of its life, in what seems a cynical attempt to be “kid-friendly.”
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Edgy MD Dec 05 2011 09:04 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Save me from anybody who thinks zinging Donald Trump is timely.
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Vic Sage Dec 06 2011 02:39 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
have you seen the paper today? Gringrinch and the Donald. the GOP nom seems to run thru Trump tower.
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Edgy MD Dec 06 2011 02:53 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Sure. As a self-promotional buffoon, he's current. As a symbol of wealth-hording indifferent uber-rich, that's pretty eighties, don't you think?
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Vic Sage Dec 06 2011 03:18 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
totally, dude.
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Vic Sage Dec 07 2011 11:22 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 15 2011 10:40 AM |
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SEMINAR - 4 pretentious, self-absorbed, one-dimensional character types ("wannabe writers of serious fiction trying to advance their careers") are berated week after week by another pretentious, self-absorbed, one-dimensional character type ("cynical, destructive, formerly great writer, now a teacher") who eviscerates their stories and their characters, but he really only wants to help them, you see. There is some glibly amusing dialogue, and a few compelling ideas about art, and some great performances, especially by Alan Rickman as the teacher, that almost make this worth watching, but being stuck in a theater with these "characters" for 90 intermission-less minutes, as the playwright stares intently at her navel, was almost more than i could stand. [D+]
Sharpie and I have radically different ideas about enjoyable evenings at the theater.
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Vic Sage Dec 15 2011 10:19 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
BONNIE & CLYDE - Composer Frank Wildhorn, who has penned an ongoing litany of Broadway flops going back to JEKYLL & HYDE, has done it again. Working with noted hack lyricist Don Black and sitcom writer Ivan Menchell, they've added absolutely nothing to the quasi-historical legend of Depression-era gangsters Bonnie & Clyde. By keeping the focus on the love story and striving for romantic tragedy, they arrive instead at insipid banality. Times were bad...They wanted to be famous...They were hot for each other...He was hardened by prison...They go on a spree....Bang Bang Bang... The end. It’s history made from a paint-by-numbers kit. While the songs are not the worst of Wildhorn's career, influenced by rockabilly, gospel, & country music instead of his usual power pop ballads, they are still inauthentic and mostly unmemorable, except for "Dying Ain't So Bad", which Bonnie sings as her 11 O'clock number. The performers are pretty good, especially Jeremy Jordan (Clyde) and Laura Osnes (Bonnie), who are attractive, sympathetic and strong-voiced. But the direction by Jeff Calhoun is humorless, slack and uninspired, and he provides no choreography to give the show any sense of movement. His designers adds nothing, either... in fact, the wooden slat panels that comprise the physical set is especially irritating when it is used as the screen for projections, which are difficult to read against it.
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Vic Sage Dec 15 2011 10:52 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
As a side note, somebody will have to explain the career of Frank Wildhorn to me. Over the past 15 years or so, he's had 6 musicals produced on Broadway, and numerous others in regional theaters, with some still threatening a Broadway move. Yet his shows have never been successful, either commercially or critically. So why do investors still put his money in his productions? On BONNIE & CLYDE, there was an ungodly number of producing entities listed above the title... 20 to 30, but i haven't counted.
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Edgy MD Dec 15 2011 12:10 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Well, you ask "Why this story again?" And the answer is as plain as the nose on your face. Familiar stories are familiar. Even if we don't really know the story, the names resonate from the spines of books we never read or the sun bleached hues of movie posters of 40-year-old films we never saw. So people will be more likely to see a film called Sleepy Hollow --- even if it has almost no fealty to the The Headless Horseman of Sleepy Hollow, and turns Ichabod Crane into a Knickerbocker-era forensic detective --- than, say, a story called, Ezekial Bender, Knickebocker Detective. And so, producers are more likely to greenlight it, crappy or no.
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Vic Sage Dec 16 2011 02:02 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
yes, of course, to all that.
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Edgy MD Dec 16 2011 02:17 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Maybe it's a long tail, just a flat one. They'll break even in 2048.
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Edgy MD Dec 16 2011 02:22 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
HEY!! Check it out! Jecklyll and Hyde is knockin' 'em dead is Hertefordshire, Ouijanbou, and Helsingborg!
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seawolf17 Dec 16 2011 02:30 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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And that's without the power of Sebastian Bach behind it.
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MFS62 Dec 16 2011 07:22 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
As I've mentioned before, Frankie is my wife's cousin.
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Vic Sage Jan 04 2012 09:35 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
STICK FLY - Lydia Diamond's new play is yet another dysfunctional family melodrama, only this time it's a black upper-class family, so that's OK then. And it gives us a different set of characters and issues to consider than these plays commonly provide. The play is front-loaded with exposition and back-loaded with family secrets and melodramatic reveals, but despite the old-fashioned structure and messy plotting, it's rich in humor, character and humanity, making it an entertaining affair overall. The cast is excellent, especially the young Condola Rashad as the maid's daughter, who has excellent comic timing and big eyes that break your heart. Dule Hill and Mekhi Phifer are believable as brothers, different sides of the same coin, and Ruben Santiago-Hudson is the coin... the patriarch of this screwed-up clan, moving gracefully from charming to chilly. Tracie Thoms is Hill's fiancee, coming to the wealthy family home on Martha's Vinyard to meet her boyfriend's family, and her "quirkiness" is telegraphed and constantly overstated, but Phifer's visiting girlfriend, the WASPy Rosie Benton, is a strong and vital presence. Kenny Leon's direction is first rushed, and then slack, as he tries to keep the dishes spinning, and the design is chaotic, too, with the living room of this dark Victorian-style mansion abutting a beach-y kitchen and patio that seems to belong to a different house. Alicia Keys provides incidental music that goes on way too long between scenes, unnecessarily slowing things down. All in all, this play shouldn't be as funny, warm and touching as it is, but it is anyway. And it's recommended. [B+]
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seawolf17 Jan 04 2012 09:56 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Two of my friends from college are hitting the big time in the cast of "Once," which opens this spring. Thrilled for them.
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Vic Sage Jan 04 2012 10:54 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
i'm psyched for that show. It had quite a buzz at the NY Theater workshop production off-Broadway. And i love that movie and score.
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Vic Sage Jan 04 2012 03:31 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
LYSISTRATA JONES - Doug Carter Beane has once again succeeded in driving me out of a theater at intermission. His high-camp sensibility doesn't work for me, and not for too many others this time, as the show is closing quickly. This musical adaptation and update of Aristophanes' LYSISTRATA is about a bouncy cheerleader trying to get the boys on the Athens U. basketball team motivated to actually win a game by talking all their girlfriends into withholding sex until they do. Its stupid, condescending, silly and all the "black culture" references and posing by these white kids feels vaguely and amorphously racist somehow. The music is a hodgepodge of pseudo-rap and pseudo-Broadway power ballads. At least Mr. Beane's prior excrescence, XANADU, had actual pop songs to have fun with. The production values are nil and direction perfunctory. It's hard to evaluate performances when actors are directed to play inhuman caricatures, but no one rose above the carnage. While the show employs an interesting and valid theatrical conceit, updating the ancient Greek comedy to talk about a modern girl heroically trying to make her generation care about something, it's all so arch and cartoonish... why would anyone care enough to listen? I sure didn't. [F]
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Edgy MD Jan 04 2012 04:56 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
I'm no classicist, but wasn't Lysistrata about women withoholding sex to force thier men to negotiate peace, not to tease them to vicotry?
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Vic Sage Jan 08 2012 08:34 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
i agree the show degrades the theme of the original. but on its own terms, the actions of the protagonist in this story is to shake her peers out of lethargy and disinterest and to get them to CARE about something. yes, it happens to be a basketball game, but that's not really the point, and the show is very clear about that. overly emphatic even. Also, lets remember that LYSISTRATA was a comedy, and its that spirit to which the musical is adhering.
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Vic Sage Jan 18 2012 03:02 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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i just went to see this again, because Bernadette Peters had a pretty bad cold the first time i saw it and i wanted to give her another chance. I'm so glad i did. She was in fine voice and the show was even better this time. It's a modern classic and has never gotten the reception it so deserves.
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Edgy MD Jan 18 2012 05:10 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Sorry. Not really. I just find that the updating-the-classics thing has gotten more than a little tired, flattering us for the bourgeois educations we bring to the show, allowing us to congratulate ourselves for getting the references, and unburdening the conceivers of having to come up with much of a point beyond the shoehorning. On it's own merits, great, write a story about girls fighting lethargy by withholding sex. One of the cooler things about Clueless is that they didn't initially market the film based on the Jane Austen tie-in. The writer believed in the story and adapted it. One of the cooler things about West Side Story is that, while it self consciously updates the themes of Romeo & Juliet, it doesn't waste your time making clever references to it's decendent. Long-winded way of saying that I couldn't be lured to Lysistrata Jones for love or money. In fact, I'd rather see a stage musical adaptation of For Love or Money.
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Vic Sage Jan 24 2012 11:50 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
REBECCA musical postponed to next season; but William Shatner's 1-man show is coming in! And the fanboys start lining up...
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Vic Sage Jan 25 2012 08:45 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 26 2012 12:52 PM |
THE ROAD TO MECCA - One of legendary South African playwright Athol Fugard's later plays, ROAD TO MECCA is a long slog but ultimately a rewarding experience. Featuring stellar performances by Rosemary Harris, Carla Gugino and Jim Dale, this play of hushed speeches in a candlelit room requires effort in order to suffer through a talky, inert Act I in order to experience a transcendent Act II.
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sharpie Jan 25 2012 11:16 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
I saw THE ROAD TO MECCA a few weeks ago and generally agree with what Vic said. Adding the third character (Jim Dale) at the beginning of Act 2 totally turned it around for me. mrs. sharpie was positive about it at the intermission and I found it hard to get through. She was surprised when at the end I ended up liking it. Any time you can see Rosemary Harris on stage you should do so.
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Vic Sage Jan 26 2012 12:37 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 17 2012 01:12 PM |
ON A CLEAR DAY... – This "revisal" of Lerner & Lane's dated 60s-era musical met a frosty critical reception and equally cold B.O., resulting in an expeditious exit. But I think it was treated with undue harshness. I remember seeing the movie with Barbra Streisand and Yves Montand when I was a kid and thinking, "Gosh, this is a stupid story, but there are a few good songs here." And so it has been for this property ever since... a good score with a stupid, dated book. That's why a book rewrite was deemed necessary, and Peter Parnell's clever new take on it has added a freshness and humanity it sorely lacked.
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themetfairy Feb 03 2012 09:01 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Vic - what's the advance word on Peter and the Starcatcher?
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Vic Sage Feb 03 2012 01:40 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
It got a great review in the NYTimes last year, when it was presented by New York Theater Workshop:
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themetfairy Feb 03 2012 02:06 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Thanks Vic.
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Vic Sage Feb 16 2012 10:23 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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My take on the rest of this season's scheduled openings: ONCE (M) (2/28) - I'm really looking forward to this adaptation of the indie film (i love the music); DEATH OF A SALESMAN (P/R) (3/15) – Phillip Seymour Hoffman in one of my favorite plays ever; JESUS CHRIST, SUPERSTAR (M/R) (3/22) – I've even watched community theater productions, just to hear the score; NEWSIES (M) (3/29) - Menken score for Disney movie musical, adapted to stage by Harvey Fierstein-- little interest; THE BEST MAN (P/R) (4/1) - dated political theater from Gore Vidal, with an all-star cast -- not again; END OF THE RAINBOW (P) (4/2) - Judy Garland's last days... don't care; EVITA (M/R) (4/5) – no interest in this British revival; MAGIC / BIRD (P) (4/11) - LOMBARDI was ok, this might be too; PETER & THE STARCATCHERS (P) (4/15) - Definitely want to see this adaptation/prequel, moving from off-Broadway; ONE MAN, TWO GUVNORS (P) (4/18) – British comedy coming over -- might be fun; CLYBOURNE PARK (P) (4/19) - Pulitzer winner, looks pretentious; GHOST (M) (4/23) – high-tech Brit pop musical adaptation will likely suck; NICE WORK IF YOU CAN GET IT (M) - (4/24) - M.Broderick and Kelli Ohara, with a Gershwin score -- could be fun; THE COLUMNIST (P) (4/25) – new Dave Auburn play always worth a look; DON’T DRESS FOR DINNER (P) (4/26) – sequel to BOING BOING, likely another dated sex farce, but this time without Mark RYlance, so no thanks; LEAP OF FAITH (M) (4/26) - another Menken musical adaptation of a movie -- i have more interest in this one.
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themetfairy Feb 16 2012 10:29 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
D-Dad and I are going to see The Best Man in March. We haven't seen it before, and the all-star cast enticed us.
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themetfairy Mar 24 2012 07:07 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
D-Dad and I enjoyed The Best Man. Not as dated as you would think, as the issues facing politicians today aren't all that different from those in 1960.
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Vic Sage Mar 26 2012 08:05 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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and in recognition of the designers' great work, and the great experience to which they contributed, you decided to take an image of their designs and post it, not only without the permission of the designers but in direct contravention of the stated policy about it expressed to you in the theater. that's just great, fairy. just great.
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themetfairy Mar 26 2012 08:26 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
I did.
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Vic Sage Mar 26 2012 08:43 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
what difference does it make if it's before, during, or after the performance?
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themetfairy Mar 26 2012 08:51 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
During the performance is a whole other ballgame. There's the possibility of distracting the performers as well as those who are trying to enjoy the show.
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Ceetar Mar 26 2012 08:53 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
I get why you would want to prevent video recording, but I've never really understood the complete blackout of photography. (beyond the normal 'flashes distract the performance angle') What exactly is the goal?
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Vic Sage Mar 26 2012 09:15 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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you took an image of the set and distributed it to the world, without approval. You want to rely on "fair use"? Ok, but that's an affirmative defense you have to prove after you've already been sued for the infringement. As to whether or not you can prove it, you seem to be relying on the "i only took a little" defense (i.e, a de minimis taking) by equating it to a paragraph of the play. First of all, there is no magic number of words below which a taking is a fair use; it depends on the nature of the use and the impact the use has on the market for the work. for example, using images in a professional review is protected as fair use because of the newsworthy/critical use (and the producer has given permission for that critic's use by providing photos (pre-approved by creatives) & video (called "b-roll"); posting unapproved images on a blog or website to say "gee look at the set of the cool show i saw" is unlikely to meet the "newsworthy" test. Also, the "market effect" test: the producer undoubtedly sells a souvenir program of (approved) images of the set, costumes, actors, quotes, etc., all of whom receive a royalty from that product. if anybody is allowed to shoot whatever they want and disseminate it on a worldwide basis, this product loses its value. Hence, negative market impact of the infringement. Then you get into the "how much was taken" prong of the fair use test. Even the newsworthy exception doesn't allow for a taking of the whole work. There are even cases that suggest a relatively small taking may still be infringment if its the "heart of the work" being infringed. In this case, you compare your taking to a paragraph of the play. Except its much greater than that. I haven't seen the show, but i'd warrant their aren't that many different sets. maybe 8, 10, 12 at most? And some are used for longer period than others, or are used repeatedly. So you can estimate the portion of the set design (and lighting design) that this set represents based on either a numerical or temporal basis, but in any event it will certainly be a significantly larger percentage than a paragraph of a play; it would be more akin to a chapter of a book, or a full scene of the play. Still feeling good about that fair use defense, are you? Maybe your comfortable with your rationalization, but i can assure you, as a practicioner in this area, you'd be found liable. Not that anybody would go to the trouble of sueing you... theater isn't the music industry. It is unlikely to criminalize the behavior of its audience. But that doesn't make the behavior any less violative of copyright law. Feelings about that are, as i said, another matter.
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metirish Mar 26 2012 09:23 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Viv , bringing down the Hebrew hammer.
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themetfairy Mar 26 2012 09:25 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
I'm still feeling good about the fair use defense. I respectfully disagree with your conclusion that this reaches a level that would constitue a copyright violation.
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Vic Sage Mar 26 2012 09:27 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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to prevent copyright infringement.
Yeah, what if its a bad couple of pictures? what if its a couple of pictures that mis-characterize the play? What if its an image of an actor in a nude scene, who has given no approval of his/her nudity to be recorded? What if the proliferation of pictures destroy the value of the souvenir program book that the creative contributors make a fee from, or designers who collect their works into exhibitions and books? I'm sure the producers, who hire experienced PR and marketing firms to carefully craft and disseminate their campaign for their show, really appreciate the "help" of fans (some well-meaning and some not) to decide for themselves what images and messages to send out to sell their shows, but they would sooner have those images vetted by their own staff, and approved by the folk whose creative work is being taken. Look, obviously people will do what they want, and other than a stern warning from a little old lady usher, folks will face little ramifications for their behavior (like everywhere else in this society), but all i ask is that you please stop rationalizing it and/or thinking that its perfectly appropriate behavior. It's not. It's not legal (copyright infringment), it's not ethical (your taking money out of the pockets of artists), it's not fair (everybody else is buying the program, but your just going to help yourself), it's inconsiderate (your making the jobs of the folks in the theater harder, as they have to harrass you to stop, which also is an annoyance and distraction to the rest of the audience), not to mention potentially dangerous if done during a performance.
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Ceetar Mar 26 2012 09:50 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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I disagree. (not that it's illegal, nor have I ever taken a picture of a play, although I don't really understand from a legal standpoint how taking a picture of a set is any different than me taking a picture of say an artist's painting in a gallery) I think it's an issue at the heart of a changing culture. Leaving aside the annoyance/distraction/dangerous parts, because those are all obvious and I agree. If I buy a ticket to a play, what I want to buy is the performance/story, not the program or the critical reviews or the any of the other stuff. Crowd-sourced reviews and publicity are part of the new world. A play will rarely, if ever, go viral on social media. (We heard over and over about Spider Man's problems with things going wrong than the play itself. I've heard multiple people comment recently "Oh, that's actually playing?" Like they just assumed it got shut down) By funneling it through PR and marketing firms, they're putting out what the play wants to sell, instead of what the consumer wants to buy. I know the "I wouldn't have paid for it anyway" argument isn't really a good one, but it should be less about clamping down on information/photos getting out and more about creating something people want to buy. Instead of being worried that people won't buy the program if they can snap a picture before the show or at Intermission or something, make the program something that they want to buy. Makeup shots, prep-work articles, etc. There's plenty there to enhance the performance that can't be "ruined" by someone taking pictures. (ignoring of course that one person can take the program and then scan every page if they really wanted) An example that struck me is the Criss Angel Cirque Du Soleil show. At the end, he's still on stage he suggests that people take out there phones and take a picture and tweet it. Costume, cast, anything they want that's out there is going to make it to facebook and twitter and be there.
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Vic Sage Mar 26 2012 10:16 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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you're right, they aren't any different. The only difference is that most paintings you might photograph in a museum are in the "public domain" (ie., their copyright period has expired, and therefore they can be copied freely). If you try to photograph a modern painting, at MOMA, for instance instead of the Met, you'll be told not to do so. Similarly, a set is a copyrighted work that is also not yet in the public domain.
i would agree that times are a-changin' and producers SHOULD do more in this area, but that is for them to decide, like Criss Angel did; its not a "right" vested in the public to decide for them. And whether someone buys the program and then scans it and posts it for worldwide dissemination, or whether someone just takes the picture themselves, it's a copyright violation. But rest assured that producers are not spending any time clamping down on information or photos, beyond the feeble gesticulations of feeble semi-retired women handing out playbills, and i'm sure they don't care overmuch. It's the designers (by and large not a wealthy sub-strata of creative folk) whose work is being taken without compensation or approval. And of course there are the numerous illegal videos on youtube and elsewhere that rip off an entire play, song or musical of writers, about whom absolutely NOBODY gives a shit anymore. As for "crowd-sourced" reviews and publicity, go for it. You don't have to steal anything to do that, though.
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themetfairy Mar 26 2012 11:06 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Not true - MoMA allows still photography so long as you don't use a flash.
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Ceetar Mar 26 2012 11:37 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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well crowd sourced stuff gains more steam when it's got a picture of something associated with it. "Hey, look at this really cool set I saw!" or even niche things. Take the Mad Men Mets pennant that was on the show last night. Say that was in a play, would "Hey that play had a Mets pennant!" have as big an impact? (the biggest impact Criss Angel's stunt had was nothing, since his show was really really bad) I'm not really arguing with you, I get that it's wrong, I just feel like maybe what's wrong is too broad in scope. After all, none of these laws and rules were made with even the concept of cellphone cameras and social media. I don't think that approval and compensation for designers of unique sets are really that big a deal. It's different than say taking someone elses copyrighted picture and using it. These sets are generally unique enough that it's obvious to whom they belong, and in most cases the show is being referenced whereever said picture would be used. Maybe the effort would be better spent modernizing the experience. This could very well be just me though. I often get a stuffy/out-dated feel whenever I see a play, which admittedly isn't a regular occurrence either.
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Vic Sage Mar 26 2012 12:36 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Yes, your right... to an extent. As an academic institution and a public charity, they allow photography for "personal use" in their permanent exhibitions (they allow no photography in their temporary exhibitions). Since much of their audience are students working on assignments who need the images for research, they allow that. Of course, if such an image turned up on the internet, the poster of that image would still be violating the copyright of the artist (assuming the work isn't in public domain). from MOMA website: "Cameras: Still photography for personal use is permitted in collection galleries only. No flash or tripods allowed. Videotaping is permitted in the lobby only. No photographs or videotapes may be reproduced, distributed, or sold without permission from the Museum." And of course an academic institution and public charity doesn't have the same relationship to its audience as a Broadway show. Nor should you expect it to.
well of COURSE trading on pre-existing images, trademarks and copyrighted material has a bigger impact. That doesn't make it LESS valuable (and unprotectable) by the owners of the property; it makes that property MORE valuable (and in greater need of protection). As for the Mets pennant, i assure you they got "clearance" for that use of the Mets logo and property. I'm sure the Mets were delighted to have the reference in MAD MEN, and there are even companies that pay money to have their logos and products included in such a way. NONE of that detracts from the basic premise; its not free to be used by anybody for any reason, without permission.
Yes, it's easier than ever to steal this stuff. that doesn't mean it's no longer theft. And no, these distribution mechanisms were not around when copyright laws were invented, but in its last round of revisions, the Copyright Act had a "digital millenium copyright act" addendum which DOES provide certain rights and responsiblities about the impact of these new technologies and -- guess what? This act of taking a photograph of a stage set in the theater and posting it on line, without approval, is still an infringement, even under the new laws.
this list of assumptions is baseless. you don't think the designer's approval and compensation is a "big deal"? Well, how nice for you. I bet they do. It's different than using someone else's copyrighted picture? In what way? In both, you're making an unauthorized copy (either via camera or via scanner/copier) and then making unauthorized distribution (whether on the internet, or in print, or otherwise). The sets are unique and reference to the show is likely? who says? Well, who designed the set that Fairy photographed and posted above? She didn't mention the designer's name ... It's by Derek McLane, by the way. He's got 2 other shows running right now, ANYTHING GOES and HOW TO SUCCEED, with NICE WORK IF YOU CAN GET IT about to open. He's also had FOLLIES and MAN AND BOY this season, so he's been a busy beaver. But i defy any casual theater goer to know any of this, based simply on that posted image and reference to the title of the show Fairy saw. Ultimately, it doesn't matter about the marketing, or attribution, or what you perceive as being beneficial to the show and to the artists. You don't get to decide for Mr. McLane, or lighting designer Kenneth Posner (whose work is also in evidence in the photo), how and under what circumstances you'll copy their work and distribute it. Only THEY do. That's what it means to own a copyright.
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Ceetar Mar 26 2012 12:57 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Not what I meant really. Maybe I _am_ questioning Copyright law. Obviously they think it's a big deal. The set she photographed was attached to a paragraph in which she says what show she saw. No, it doesn't mention the set designer, but anyone can look that up with the information provided. That's what I mean, ultimately the attribution is there if you're looking for it, and that's what I mean by the picture often being attached to the play in some way. This is much different imo than someone snatching a photo or painting and reusing it, with no real good way to link it back to the original creator. I am not real interested in the set designer, though I do appreciate all the work that goes into sets and costumes and movie/sound editing and all those types of things. That name means nothing to me. Again, this may just be me. I appreciate all the work that goes into a play (or a movie) but I am not looking to track and follow the individuals. I also don't tend to remember directors of movies, I'm not even great with actors and authors, although I've been trying there. Their work is bundled into the play. Which is what she mentioned. Interestingly, this is different in the entertainment world. If I write something for my company, it's theirs. If someone steals it, I have no personal rights to it as my own intellectual property, nor do I get recognized for it. (Very few people know who programmed the AI for Siri for example) I guess I'm not quite getting to my point here, and maybe it's just because these finer points of law are above me. When I buy a ticket to see the show, I'm buying a ticket for the show and it's just my assumption that I can photograph things in front of me. If I bought a piece of copyrighted art on a postcard, I wouldn't think twice about snapping a picture and posting it to facebook "Look what I got!", but I guess that'd still be violating the copyright of the image in the same way I wouldn't be allowed to buy a DVD and then stream that video on my website. On that note, my Twitter background of the Fox screenshot of Endy's catch is probably also infringement.
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batmagadanleadoff Mar 26 2012 01:00 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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I'm off on somewhat of a tangent here, but the actual Mets pennant (circa mid-60's) featured in Mad Men doesn't appear to have been licensed by Major League baseball. The pennant doesn't include any logos or even the proper Mets script. It's a generic Mets pennant and in its day was probably sold in those Midtown souvenir shops that targeted tourists. That pennant never sold at Shea or any other MLB stadium. Would Mad Men need permission to use that particular pennant? And if not, maybe the show chose that specific pennant over a licensed pennant to save on production costs?
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Vic Sage Mar 26 2012 01:06 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 26 2012 01:20 PM |
that's clearly the Mets trademark on that banner, along with "Mr. Met" and "Shea stadium". I doubt MLB owns the Mets trademarks; it's no doubt property of the organization. How those marks are licensed I am not sure (whether MLB is the sole and exclusive agent for use of ALL the marks owned by all its teams, or whether there are certain uses and/or certain marks that are reserved to the clubs), but someone had to give that approval.
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batmagadanleadoff Mar 26 2012 01:13 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Which banners? Only the bottom one appeared on Mad Men. I displayed the first two only for comparison's sake.
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Vic Sage Mar 26 2012 01:22 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
oh, yes, i see. They clearly are NOT using actual Mets font or logos or marks. Interesting. Maybe no license in that case; its equivalent to paraphrasing. If the paraphrase is not substantially similar, its not an infringement. It would be similar to a script which discussed the Mets; the Mets couldn't prevent such dialogue, so why could they prevent a dissimilar image for including the word "Mets"?
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metirish Mar 26 2012 01:30 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
You have some patience I'll tell you that Vic.
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Vic Sage Mar 26 2012 02:44 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Just pushing the rock up the hill, Irish.
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Vic Sage Mar 27 2012 12:07 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
off the soapbox and back to the reviews:
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Vic Sage Mar 29 2012 09:24 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 7 time(s), most recently on Apr 02 2012 12:42 PM |
ONCE - Wow...just wow. Every once in a while, a show comes along that is startlingly original (NEXT TO NORMAL, PASSING STRANGE, and SPRING AWAKENING come to mind from recent seasons) and this is one of those shows. Even though it's an adaptation of a recent film, its originality springs from the manner it which it re-invents the little Irish movie musical into an organically theatrical work that you couldn't even imagine ever having been a movie in the first place.
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Edgy MD Mar 29 2012 09:29 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Thanks for the review.
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Vic Sage Mar 29 2012 09:31 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
i changed it even before i saw your post, edgy. sorry.
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Edgy MD Mar 29 2012 09:35 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Not at all.
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Vic Sage Apr 02 2012 12:10 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
JESUS CHRIST, SUPERSTAR – This classic Webber/Rice rock opera is a relic of the late 60s-early 70s, and if it’s more successful in evoking that era than it is in transporting us to Judea in 33 AD, then that’s as it should be. It still presents an energetic, kick-ass score that crosses rock, folk, and R&B influences with operatic bombast. The story’s view on the Christ tale (focusing on the central question: JC -- human or divine?) never offered any particularly original insights, but it was a freshly provocative take in its day and still has a critical edge without denying the impact of Christ’s humanity and martyrdom.
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Vic Sage Apr 04 2012 02:12 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
END OF THE RAINBOW -A semi-musical semi-biopic not even up to standards of Lifetime TV, this British vision of Judy Garland's final drug & booze-addled death lap by Peter Quilter features an energetically unpleasant (and much lauded) impersonation of the gay icon by Tracie Bennett. She sings well enough in Ms. Garland's style (though anyone would suffer in comparison), throws off her bitchy one-liners with good comic timing, and otherwise degenerates realistically into a crawling, drooling, profane mess before our eyes. For our pleasure? Amusement? Insight? Actually, none of the above is offered... certainly none, at least, that I could discern.
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Vic Sage Apr 05 2012 09:33 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
THE BEST MAN - Gore Vidal’s 1960 satire of America’s backroom politics is as archly funny, insightful and contemporary as the day it was written. His well-crafted, if somewhat old-fashioned, 3-act play is a morality tale with arch-types rather than characters, but they are sly, witty types so we don’t mind so much, and the twist ending, dressed up as a noble act by a man of conscience, is deliciously cynical.
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Vic Sage Apr 09 2012 08:58 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
NEWSIES - Disney has adapted its flop movie musical into a piece-of-crap stage musical... so the adaptation is faithful i guess. It features the weakest Alan Menken score ever sung in public, performed by a game cast playing the most cloying conglomeration of "ain't poverty just the cutest thing" characters since ANNIE. The dancing is highly athletic and more evocative of a HS gymnastics exhibition, and TV movies like HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL, than choreography that illustrates character or advances the narrative. The set is comprised of rolling and rotating scaffolding and projections that do nothing to evoke 1899 NYC's tenements or any other environs, but instead work to sometimes create a tryptich of 9 panel grids that calls to attention the page of comic book... which suggests the emotional depth of the story. Actually, comics have long since established more compelling narratives, and even ANNIE had more resonance in tapping into the harsh realities of the Depression than this does in establishing the hardships leading to the Newsboy strike of 1899. It so deneuters the pro-unionist story at its heart that tourist families will happily applaud and cheer this unabashedly pandering entertainment and then return home to vote for Tea Party candidates that continue to destroy unions and the middle class they helped to create in this country. Fuck this show and the hypocrisy it rode in on. [F]
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 09 2012 09:16 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Great review!
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Vic Sage Apr 18 2012 08:53 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
vitriol is the lubricant for the birthing of pithy criticism.
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seawolf17 Apr 18 2012 12:06 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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Plus Lucas and Mike are great guys, fellas I know from college, and are both fucking awesome. Going on the Sunday of Memorial Day weekend; a ton of Geneseo folks (like 30-40 of us, I think) all hitting the matinee that day.
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Vic Sage Apr 19 2012 11:47 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 5 time(s), most recently on Apr 25 2012 11:17 AM |
EVITA – This long-running London revival of the Webber/Rice mega-hit finally comes back to Broadway, featuring a tiny Argentinean spitfire, Elena Roger, and Ricky Martin, the Latin pop star of the 90s, as the sardonic narrator, Che. But it's a pretty mediocre production of an overrated show.
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Vic Sage Apr 19 2012 11:55 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
next up:
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Vic Sage Apr 22 2012 11:40 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Apr 25 2012 11:04 AM |
MAGIC / BIRD - Eric Simonson, the writer who authored last season's NFL play LOMBARDI, seems to be the go-to guy when sports leagues try to spread their trademarks over the theater world like manure. If only he was a good playwright, it would make these commodifications endurable. Alas, mediocrity is his high water mark, as his dramas are nothing more than hagiographies cut and pasted from Wikipedia entries. Here, Simonson has taken the parallel careers and rivalry of the 2 NBA superstars, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird, and tries to make a case for a "Castor & Pollux"-style Greek myth. But his reach exceeds his grasp and the play plummets to Earth like Icarus flying too close to the sun.
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Vic Sage Apr 23 2012 10:24 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 25 2012 10:56 AM |
PETER & THE STARCATCHER - Rick Elice's adaptation of Dave Barry's PETER PAN "prequel" is presented in a thrillingly theatrical production that elevates an otherwise mediocre play. Using a "story theatre" approach, an ensemble both tells and plays out a story that ostensibly answers all the questions about the origins of all the various elements of the PAN mythos. Performances are terrific, especially Christian Borle, taking time out from SMASH to chew the scenery as the proto-HOOK. The cast sings some songs, but the show is not a musical per se… just a work that uses all of theater's tools to communicate a narrative to and with an audience. When the actors pick up a rope and transform it (first into a doorway, then a window, then the surface of a ship's deck, and the waves of a stormy sea), they're engaged in theater at its purest, and pull it off with great style and energy. My only problem is the story being adapted. It's an exercise in narrative reverse engineering which, while clever and amusing, is also unduly convoluted and not nearly as charming, or inspired, or magical as it should be. But my 11-year old was thoroughly engaged throughout. So there you go. [B]
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Edgy MD Apr 23 2012 10:29 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Do they find actors who are 6'8" and 6'9" to play Magic Johnson and Larry Bird?
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Vic Sage Apr 23 2012 10:33 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
Next 5 shows (4 in the next 3 days):
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Vic Sage Apr 23 2012 10:34 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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i'm not sure how tall they are, but they are both very tall (especially standing next to Peter Scolari). If they had any other qualifications for the roles, they're not immediately apparent. i did a little research: Tug Coker (playing BIRD) is about 6'5". Kevin Daniels (as MAGIC) seems roughly the same height.
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themetfairy Apr 23 2012 11:52 AM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
They could alternatively cast a couple of six foot tall guys and round out the cast with really short actors.
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bmfc1 Apr 23 2012 04:29 PM Re: Broadway season 2011-2012 |
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