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Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2011 02:54 PM

Can't allow this to turn into one of those patented Mets West Coast Trips From Hell. How many more surprising bouncebacks does this club have, and when does the next begin?

bmfc1 Aug 15 2011 03:57 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

METS: 1. Angel Pagan (S) CF 2. Justin Turner (R) 2B 3. David Wright (R) 3B 4. Lucas Duda (L) 1B 5. 6-3 (R) LF 6. Jason Pridie (L) RF 7. Josh Thole (L) C 8. Ruben Tejada (R) SS 9. R.A. Dickey (R) P Padres: 1. Will Venable (L) RF 2. Jason Bartlett (R) SS 3. Cameron Maybin (R) CF 4. Kyle Blanks (R) 1B 5. Orlando Hudson (S) 2B 6. Nick Hundley (R) C 7. Aaron Cunningham (R) LF 8. Logan Forsythe (R) 3B 9. Aaron Harang (R) P

metirish Aug 15 2011 05:13 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Something to chew on "@STATS_MLB: #Padres have won 10 of 12 vs. #Mets at Petco, and haven’t lost a home series vs. NY since being swept in 3 games at Qualcomm Stadium in '02."

Ceetar Aug 15 2011 05:32 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

metirish wrote: Something to chew on "@STATS_MLB: #Padres have won 10 of 12 vs. #Mets at Petco, and haven’t lost a home series vs. NY since being swept in 3 games at Qualcomm Stadium in '02." Mets used to have a ridiculous record against the D-backs in Arizona too.

Fman99 Aug 15 2011 07:19 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

bmfc1 wrote: 5. 6-3 (R) LF Is Bay that tall?

Rockin' Doc Aug 15 2011 07:29 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

The Mets headed west for this road trip and have thus far found themselves in a gunfight with a half loaded gun.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2011 07:29 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Got to disappoint the Padre!

bmfc1 Aug 15 2011 07:30 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

"6-3" is my nickname for Bay because that seems to be the result of half of his ABs.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 07:39 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

bmfc1 wrote: "6-3" is my nickname for Bay because that seems to be the result of half of his ABs. I was following.

G-Fafif Aug 15 2011 08:21 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Duda to Petco: Yer not so big.

G-Fafif Aug 15 2011 08:26 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Josh Thole discovers what Julio Franco once did -- not the Fountain of Youth, but that cheapie jury box. Nice placement.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 08:27 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Thole to Petco: I like your style.

Ceetar Aug 15 2011 08:43 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

R.A. Houdini? unrelatedly, can one of you make my stupid scanner stay connected to the stupid FIOS network so that I can scan the stupid citi field postcard?

Ceetar Aug 15 2011 08:45 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Ceetar wrote: R.A. Houdini? unrelatedly, can one of you make my stupid scanner stay connected to the stupid FIOS network so that I can scan the stupid citi field postcard? I'd call Verizon and bitch at them, but I'd probably get a janitor that was forced to answer phones due to the zany restructuring during the strike thing. He'd probably just suggest I pour some bleach in the paper slot.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 08:46 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Bad running (bad signreading?) deserves a bad call, I suppose.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2011 08:54 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Where the hell is Jose Reyes...oh yeah...hurt..again..

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 08:56 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Pretty loud in the park for a Southern California Monday night.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 09:02 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Ashie62 wrote: Where the hell is Jose Reyes...oh yeah...hurt..again.. Come on. The "oh yeah" thing is so 2002. I'm more concerned with where Martinez is when we're giving a big buncha big-league at-bats to Brady and Pridie.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 09:08 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Apparently a simple guy as far as drinking tastes go, Thole eschews Stone IPAs and Ballast Point's full-bodied stouts in favor of a shit-ton of Schaefer.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 09:09 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Ceetar wrote: Ceetar wrote: R.A. Houdini? unrelatedly, can one of you make my stupid scanner stay connected to the stupid FIOS network so that I can scan the stupid citi field postcard? I'd call Verizon and bitch at them, but I'd probably get a janitor that was forced to answer phones due to the zany restructuring during the strike thing. He'd probably just suggest I pour some bleach in the paper slot. Verizon took out at least one full-page newspaper ad today blaming the union for clinging to rules that require strict division of tasks which in turn (they claim) is responsible for the multiple transfers each time you try to get an answer from them.

Ceetar Aug 15 2011 09:15 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Apparently a simple guy as far as drinking tastes go, Thole eschews Stone IPAs and Ballast Point's full-bodied stouts in favor of a shit-ton of Schaefer.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 09:16 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

It's the one beer to have if you're having more than one RBI

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 09:22 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

How about the Mets' pitcher leading off by swinging at the first pitch with his goblin-cleaver?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 09:25 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Nice play in RF-- holding Turner to third on a two-out double by SugarPants-- by Will Venable, who I suspect is a defensive robot.

Ceetar Aug 15 2011 09:25 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Edgy DC wrote: How about the Mets' pitcher leading off by swinging at the first pitch with his goblin-cleaver? Maybe he got his pitch? probably irrelevant, since he wasn't exactly going to drive it. See if he'll walk you..hey Bay..feel like one of those fun Grand Slam things?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 09:26 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Fartnuggets.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 09:27 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Keep posting so we can get to page two and I can open this thread without seeing the priest. Was he a character cut from the "Money for Nothing" video?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2011 09:27 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Nice play in RF-- holding Turner to third on a two-out double by SugarPants-- by Will Venable, who I suspect is a defensive robot. He plays right field very venably.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 09:33 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

He also hits like a venable, thanks be.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 09:40 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Pridie: "So, my good man, mind if I get a sip of the Sch--" Thole: "No. I don't have a sip to spare."

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 09:42 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

What's that now, three knocked-out players in three games for the Mets? (Nady, Marquis, and now Harang) Thole, btw, just missed getting the rare 1-4-6 single (and settled for a 1-4 single instead).

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 09:44 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Says something good about the batting coach when the batters are bruising the pitchers.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 09:45 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

We should have more than 4 runs here. I hope this doesn't come back to haunt us.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 09:48 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Edgy DC wrote: Says something good about the batting coach when the batters are bruising the pitchers. And yet, none of the vics are Philadelphian. This saddens me.

duan Aug 15 2011 09:54 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

by the way, because it coincided with one of my longer stints in NY I got the Trivia question right. I think I saw one of the 50 as well of either Mosato Yoshii/Hideo Nomo in the flesh.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 10:04 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

"I admire everything that man does." --- Wayne Hagin on Tom Brokaw

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2011 10:08 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

This is booshit

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 10:08 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Edgy DC wrote: "I admire everything that man does." --- Wayne Hagin on Tom Brokaw Is Brokaw a Padre now?

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 10:08 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Dead ball? I always thought the ump was to be considered part of the field.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 10:08 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

You gotta be kidding me! It's bad enough that we're inventing ways not to score but now we have other people doing it for us.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 10:09 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Edgy DC wrote: Dead ball? I always thought the ump was to be considered part of the field. That's what I thought.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 10:15 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Frayed Knot wrote: We should have more than 4 runs here. I hope this doesn't come back to haunt us. Now we definitely should have more than 4 runs - and just as definitely it's starting to get a bit sticky.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2011 10:16 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

That was venably struck.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 10:17 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

!moobak

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 10:18 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

I felt that one in my venis.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 10:22 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Don't Cameron Maybin & Logan Forsythe sound like guys that ought to be at a polo match somewhere?

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 10:28 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Thole sure likes to take his week's worth of beer in one evening.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 10:37 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Coaxing an inning-ending DP from an unusually-patient Hairston? Now that's some unfortunately-terrific Bass!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 10:49 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

No walk, no run. Guh.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 10:53 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Tie game after eight. Let the buntfest begin.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 10:57 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

And... a quick two shmikes bunting for Turner.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2011 10:58 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Gary is all "What does Dickey have to do to get a win?" The Mets are not about Dickey!

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 10:59 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

It seems like it's been a very long time since something has gone right for this team.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 10:59 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

What an absolute turd of an at-bat by Turner there.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 11:00 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Kinda a turd of a call to have him bunt, though. Steal. If you want to win without hitting, then steal.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 11:02 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Well, yeah. But if you're going to do something, do it well. Fuck. Wright just missed crushing that meatball.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2011 11:03 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

I'm gonna bail on this one if Doodoo doesn't doo.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2011 11:05 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

OK, now Harris.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2011 11:05 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Ron's right, if Angel steals we have a lead by now.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 11:05 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

WHYWHYWHY Harris, not Baxter? And, yeah, Angel's been minding the bases pretty poorly of late.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 11:11 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Amazing how our offense knocks out starting pitchers (literally) in mid game and then suddenly shuts down as the supposedly soft middle relievers come in. That's twice in a row now.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 11:12 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Nice Ike impression from YayRadley there. I'm not certain, but I think the "kid" going for the same foul ball in the stands kicked at a prone Duda to try and dislodge that from his glove.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 11:13 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

They're allowed to ground into DPs too, right? I thought Tejada was going to "Ike" Duda's ankle there.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 11:15 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Same here. Yikes.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 11:20 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Bunty McBuntperson up at the plate.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 11:22 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Yeah, let's get the leadoff guy on in two straight innings only to dig the next batter into a 2-strike call without even swinging the bat.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 11:24 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

But we come back and get the walk from on-base addict Josh Thole. Now this is a bunting situation.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 11:26 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

With Tejada, yes it is.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 11:28 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Best bunt in a week.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 11:29 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Gotta get this through the drawn-in infield.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 11:30 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Well, not quite ... but it worked anyway. Woulda been nice if Thole read that better.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 11:31 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Gary is all "What does Dickey have to do to get a win?" The Mets are not about Dickey! Not about Isringhausen either.

SteveJRogers Aug 15 2011 11:34 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

3 outs from 300 Career Leaders & Records for Saves + - Indicates Hall of Famer. Bold indicates active player. Blue indicates former Met Rank Player (age) Saves Throws 1. Trevor Hoffman 601 R 2. Mariano Rivera (41) 589 R 3. Lee Smith 478 R 4. John Franco 424 L 5. Billy Wagner 422 L 6. Dennis Eckersley+ 390 R 7. Jeff Reardon 367 R 8. Troy Percival 358 R 9. Randy Myers 347 L 10. Rollie Fingers+ 341 R 11. John Wetteland 330 R 12. Roberto Hernandez 326 R 13. Jose Mesa 321 R 14. Todd Jones 319 R 15. Rick Aguilera 318 R 16. Robb Nen 314 R 17. Francisco Cordero (36) 313 R 18. Tom Henke 311 R 19. Rich Gossage+ 310 R 20. Jeff Montgomery 304 R 21. Doug Jones 303 R 22. Bruce Sutter+ 300 R 23. Jason Isringhausen (38) 299 R KRod actually is # 24 with 291. Wagner and Franco are the only two, so far, to do it as a Met.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 11:38 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Not about Isringhausen.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 11:39 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

WHYWHYWHY pitch around Orlando Hudson again?

SteveJRogers Aug 15 2011 11:40 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Also interesting, Rollie and Sutter are the only ones of that list to not play in the bigs since 1990.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 11:43 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Definitely NOT about Fingers or Sutter. Two down.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 11:43 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Oh I hope that play doesn't burn us.

Edgy DC Aug 15 2011 11:44 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Whuck!

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2011 11:44 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Fuck the 300th - the 5-game losing streak is over!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2011 11:45 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Apparently, this IS all about Isringhausen.

SteveJRogers Aug 15 2011 11:47 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

I'm sorry, I thought the idea of having an "Ace" or at least a solid starting rotation was able to get them to rack up the wins. I mean, then why did Philly go out and assemble one of the more historic ones? Sure it's about the TEAM, but at the end of the day, things are a lot better when the starters have more wins than relievers do.

Edgy DC Aug 16 2011 12:12 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Don't know what you're talking about there. at all. But there's plenty of time to talk about saves after getting them. Until then, there's a game on the line.

Fman99 Aug 16 2011 04:25 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: bmfc1 wrote: "6-3" is my nickname for Bay because that seems to be the result of half of his ABs. I was following. So was I. But I do enjoy an unnecessary explanation.

bmfc1 Aug 16 2011 05:49 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Glad you got it.

TransMonk Aug 16 2011 08:28 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Finally, the headline we dreamed of back in 1995: Mets Win! Izzy gets 300th! Never would have guessed it would be saves way back then...or that 292 of them would be with other teams.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 16 2011 08:44 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

I was never more sure of anything in my life than to wake up to a Mets loss this morning. So much so in fact, I misread the Schaefer thread as a 5-4 loss. So good on the Mets for this one. Wayne's call of the final play (listen on Mets.com) was typically rotten.

Edgy DC Aug 16 2011 08:47 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

It's like he's always so careful to make every part of the play part of his call, that he can fall 10 seconds behind the action. The go-ahead run scoring was incidental to his awkward verbal wrestling over Thole getting caught off second.

Ceetar Aug 16 2011 09:32 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I was never more sure of anything in my life than to wake up to a Mets loss this morning. So much so in fact, I misread the Schaefer thread as a 5-4 loss. So good on the Mets for this one. Wayne's call of the final play (listen on Mets.com) was typically rotten. WFAN played it this morning, i believe it was something like "groundball to the Shortstop, who bobbles it, and Tejada picks it up and throws to first, in time!" (Tejada seems to bobble a billion balls..)

Ashie62 Aug 16 2011 09:56 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I was never more sure of anything in my life than to wake up to a Mets loss this morning. So much so in fact, I misread the Schaefer thread as a 5-4 loss. So good on the Mets for this one. Wayne's call of the final play (listen on Mets.com) was typically rotten. WFAN played it this morning, i believe it was something like "groundball to the Shortstop, who bobbles it, and Tejada picks it up and throws to first, in time!" (Tejada seems to bobble a billion balls..) Hopefully his own!

bmfc1 Aug 16 2011 10:52 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Edgy DC wrote: It's like he's always so careful to make every part of the play part of his call, that he can fall 10 seconds behind the action.... Yes. I don't dislike Wayne as much as, well, anybody else but he tries too hard to tell us each detail of the play. Most times a simple and timely description will do and then use the 30 seconds before the next batter steps in to gives us the description. He reminds me of Felix Unger, here at 6:11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5gbYmrUBwE

Frayed Knot Aug 16 2011 11:33 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I was never more sure of anything in my life than to wake up to a Mets loss this morning. So much so in fact, I misread the Schaefer thread as a 5-4 loss. So good on the Mets for this one. Wayne's call of the final play (listen on Mets.com) was typically rotten. WFAN played it this morning, i believe it was something like "groundball to the Shortstop, who bobbles it, and Tejada picks it up and throws to first, in time!" (Tejada seems to bobble a billion balls..) Basically it was a hard ankle-high one-hopper which Tejada knocked down but still had plenty of time to make the throw. He's definitely hard to define as a SS; capable of making great plays one minute then messing up seemingly easy one the next. The play before the final one in fact was a slow-chopper towards the middle with runners on 1st & 2nd and one out. There wasn't going to be time for a DP so he just threw to 1st. There was time for him however to get the force at 2nd, a play which would have kept the winning run at 1st instead of in scoring position but also would have required him to make a semi-awkward turn in order to make the flip so it looked like he never even considered it so as to take the easiest out and not even risk screwing things up. That was the source of my "Oh I hope that play doesn't burn us" comment.

Edgy DC Aug 16 2011 11:40 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

I think anxious is a good way to define him. He's a lot like Wright in that regard. His instincts and honing serve him well. But give him time to think, and things get riskier.

Ceetar Aug 16 2011 11:42 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Edgy DC wrote: I think anxious is a good way to define him. He's a lot like Wright in that regard. His instincts and honing serve him well. But give him time to think, and things get riskier. that time to think seems to play in in pressure situations too.

Frayed Knot Aug 16 2011 11:42 AM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

But then he also has that weird Kaz Matsui aversion to backhanding the ball even though he seems fundamentally sound in other areas.

Edgy DC Aug 16 2011 12:26 PM Re: Late Night With Terry Collins: Mets @ San Diego 8/15 igt

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: I think anxious is a good way to define him. He's a lot like Wright in that regard. His instincts and honing serve him well. But give him time to think, and things get riskier. that time to think seems to play in in pressure situations too. Well, that's when they've got something to think about --- to grow anxious about.