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Active Mets WAR leader for 2011
| Edgy DC Aug 12 2011 05:48 PM |
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Among guys currently on the 25 and active. Give it a guess.
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| Gwreck Aug 12 2011 07:15 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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On the 25 right NOW!!!? I'll say David Wright.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2011 07:47 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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Turner? Hairston?
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| Chad Ochoseis Aug 12 2011 08:30 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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I'll go for weird here.
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| Edgy DC Aug 12 2011 08:41 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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Turner, man.
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| Frayed Knot Aug 12 2011 08:42 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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90% of life is just showing up.
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| batmagadanleadoff Aug 13 2011 09:41 AM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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I thought that this was either a trick question where Jason Bay would be the WAR leader. Otherwise, the active WAR leader had to be a starting pitcher, I figured. But where'd you get your WAR's from? Here's the 2011 Mets WAR leaders, according to Baseball Reference (italicized players are not presently on 25-man roster): Jose Reyes 4.3 Carlos Beltran 3.4 R.A. Dickey 2.8* <-------------- 25 man WAR leader Daniel Murphy 1.8 Jonathan Niese 1.7 Dillon Gee 1.7 Chris Capuano 1.4 Ike Davis 1.3 K-Rod 1.3 Mike Pelfrey 1.3 David Wright 1.2 Chris Young 1.2 Jason Bay 1.1 Scott Hairston 0.7 Jason Isringhausen 0.7 Jason Pridie 0.5 Lucas Duda 0.4. Taylor Buchholz 0.4 Justin Turner 0.4 Paulino/Tejada/Thole/Byrdak 0.3 (Something ain't right here. I could accept Dickey as the active 25 man WAR leader, but I don't see how Turner's WAR is so relatively low per bbRef, and barely one third of Bay's WAR. And if bbRef's numbers are accurate, it sure doesn't feel like they're accurate, based on my eyeball test. * I calculated pitchers' Total WAR by combining their pitching and batting/fielding WARs.
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| Edgy DC Aug 13 2011 11:08 AM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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I'd hate to think Twitter lied to me.
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| Ashie62 Aug 13 2011 12:50 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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Who invented the WAR metric?
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| Edgy DC Aug 13 2011 12:51 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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Obviously a couple of different people are using the same acronym for different metrics.
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| Ashie62 Aug 13 2011 01:13 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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Or both are flawed?
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| Edgy DC Aug 13 2011 01:14 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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The two statements aren't contradictory.
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| MFS62 Aug 13 2011 06:55 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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Lao Tse? http://www.greatdreams.com/sacred/tung.htm Later
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| metsmarathon Aug 13 2011 07:10 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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quick, name a stat that isn't flawed.
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| themetfairy Aug 13 2011 07:22 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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Inherited Runners Stranded.
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| Frayed Knot Aug 13 2011 07:23 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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EXTREMELY Flawed
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 13 2011 07:25 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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Just a counting stat, and doesn't distinguish between a guy at 3rd 0 outs and a guy at 1st 2 outs.
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| batmagadanleadoff Aug 13 2011 07:40 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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Bill James once said (or wrote) that no stat is really flawed. That the doubles stat, for example, doesn't measure HR's, or singles, or doesn't distinguish between doubles that drive in the winning run from other doubles isn't necessarily a flaw. The stat is what it is. It's just one stat in the toolbox, one measure of the player, among many others.
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| batmagadanleadoff Aug 13 2011 07:51 PM Re: Active Mets WAR leader for 2011 |
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The flaw, I suppose, is not necessarily the stat, but how one uses the stat. The questionable argument that Daniel Murphy is one of this season's best players solely because he's one of baseball's most prolific doublers doesn't mean that the doubles stat is flawed. It's the argument that's flawed.
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