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IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Ceetar Sep 09 2011 12:00 PM

Your hero will be in attendence. David Wright will grace the cover on the new, and final for the season, issue of Mets Magazine. Mike Pelfrey will be on the mound against Casey Coleman (2-7, 6.61 ERA) I'm 4-7 at Citi Field this year. The Mets are at 70-73, with their hopes of .500 fading. New York Mets 1. Jose Reyes SS 2. Justin Turner 2B 3. Lucas Duda RF 4. David Wright 3B 5. Angel Pagan CF 6. Jason Bay LF 7. Nick Evans 1B 8. Josh Thole C 9. Mike Pelfrey RHP Chicago Cubs 1. Starlin Castro SS 2. Darwin Barney 2B 3. Aramis Ramirez 3B 4. Carlos Pena 1B 5. Alfonso Soriano LF 6. Marlon Byrd CF 7. Bryan LaHair RF 8. Geovany Soto C 9. Casey Coleman RHP

Ceetar Sep 09 2011 02:45 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Bryan LaHair RF? I bet he's bald.

metirish Sep 09 2011 03:06 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: Bryan LaHair RF? I bet he's bald. And flew to NY from O'Hare.

metirish Sep 09 2011 05:39 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Gary reporting after a Reyes AB that Collins has told Reyes not to run at 100% on ground outs and such......crazy

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 09 2011 05:42 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

metirish wrote: Gary reporting after a Reyes AB that Collins has told Reyes not to run at 100% on ground outs and such......crazy what? I know I'm late to this particular party, but Pelfrey's really burning my gut.

bmfc1 Sep 09 2011 06:12 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Would anybody be upset if Terry said "Mike's getting kinda tired and we want to see some of our other arms so we're going to use Mike out of the bullpen for the rest of the season."

Fman99 Sep 09 2011 07:46 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Or, how about, "Well, we've gotten tired of Mike's underachieving and inconsistency for the past several years so we've decided to feed his body limb by limb into a woodchipper, a la Steve Buscemi in 'Fargo.'" Too much?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 09 2011 07:50 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Walking Soriano's one hell of a rare achievement. Um, congrats, Parns!

bmfc1 Sep 09 2011 08:02 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Fman99 wrote: Or, how about, "Well, we've gotten tired of Mike's underachieving and inconsistency for the past several years so we've decided to feed his body limb by limb into a woodchipper, a la Steve Buscemi in 'Fargo.'" Too much? Not at all.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 09 2011 08:04 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Bear down, Manny!

metsguyinmichigan Sep 09 2011 08:06 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Damn.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 09 2011 08:07 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Ach, nein.

Frayed Knot Sep 09 2011 08:09 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Not that he was likely to have gotten him in this case, but Pagan's next good throw from the OF will be his first. Just tonight he's had two throws and both of them have been awful.

bmfc1 Sep 09 2011 08:10 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Maybe I'm making excuses because I'm desperately looking for someone not to dislike from the 'pen, but the walk could have been strike 3, the first single was a broken bat bloop, and the tying hit was a ground ball. It's not like they hit ropes or even liners.

bmfc1 Sep 09 2011 08:11 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: Not that he was likely to have gotten him in this case, but Pagan's next good throw from the OF will be his first. Just tonight he's had two throws and both of them have been awful. The good news was that he was trying to throw to the right base.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 09 2011 08:11 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Evans gets a single -- now let's bring him around.

Frayed Knot Sep 09 2011 08:12 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

bmfc1 wrote: Maybe I'm making excuses because I'm desperately looking for someone not to dislike from the 'pen, but the walk could have been strike 3, the first single was a broken bat bloop, and the tying hit was a ground ball. It's not like they hit ropes or even liners. Bay got burned by playing "no doubles" defense too. Most times I think he catches that ball. Acosta's biggest problem though was the walk. Yeah ball 4 could have gone either way, but still.

bmfc1 Sep 09 2011 08:17 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

YES!!!

Frayed Knot Sep 09 2011 08:17 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

WOW!! When he hit that I didn't think it had anywhere near that kind of carry.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 09 2011 08:17 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

AWESOME!!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 09 2011 08:19 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Justin Turner DriveOver (Byrd)!

bmfc1 Sep 09 2011 08:19 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: WOW!! When he hit that I didn't think it had anywhere near that kind of carry. Same here.

Frayed Knot Sep 09 2011 08:22 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

bmfc1 wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: WOW!! When he hit that I didn't think it had anywhere near that kind of carry. Same here. Helped a bit I suppose that Byrd was doing the opposite of Bay, he was playing in to guard against the winning single. Still, it was a 400 foot drive.

Fman99 Sep 09 2011 08:23 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Not on TV in Syracuse. Fucking Verizon.

Edgy DC Sep 09 2011 08:25 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: WOW!! When he hit that I didn't think it had anywhere near that kind of carry. Same here. Helped a bit I suppose that Byrd was doing the opposite of Bay, he was playing in to guard against the winning single. Still, it was a 400 foot drive. The no-doubles defense giveth up the lead, and the no-singles defense taketh away.

MFS62 Sep 09 2011 08:25 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Walking Soriano's one hell of a rare achievement. Um, congrats, Parns! Pelfrey. Lick lick. Nibble nibble. Sounds like a great title to a softporn flick. Later

Ashie62 Sep 09 2011 08:51 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Alfonso Sorryanus.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 09 2011 08:54 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: Not that he was likely to have gotten him in this case, but Pagan's next good throw from the OF will be his first. Just tonight he's had two throws and both of them have been awful. Yes but if his bad throws were good, he'd be great. /Ceetar

Edgy DC Sep 09 2011 09:10 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

It's like he's smoking something completely different from last year. He plays deeper, approaches the ball with less confidence, throws it in a panic. He was a gorgeous center fielder last year. Garry Maddox good. Very disappointing. His line isn't that different from last year, and a hot few weeks would blur it even more, but his general effectiveness has been a world of difference.

Ceetar Sep 09 2011 09:20 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Not that he was likely to have gotten him in this case, but Pagan's next good throw from the OF will be his first. Just tonight he's had two throws and both of them have been awful. Yes but if his bad throws were good, he'd be great. /Ceetar bite me. Pagan has a much longer history of above average defense than what he's shown for most of this year. But sure, he sucks. Let's just play Pridie because even though he sucks, he'll make less money next year.

Ceetar Sep 09 2011 09:23 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

so random attacks on me aside fun game tonight. place was mostly dead, and mostly empty. both the triple safe call at third, and the subsequent out at the plate seemed like blown calls. truth? How about Turner's single that went over the fence? Ventura in the building tonight..

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 09 2011 09:26 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Not that he was likely to have gotten him in this case, but Pagan's next good throw from the OF will be his first. Just tonight he's had two throws and both of them have been awful. Yes but if his bad throws were good, he'd be great. /Ceetar bite me. Pagan has a much longer history of above average defense than what he's shown for most of this year. But sure, he sucks. Let's just play Pridie because even though he sucks, he'll make less money next year. Hey sorry, I was just joshing ya. Pagan's dumb plays are mysteries to me too.

Gwreck Sep 09 2011 09:28 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: How about Turner's single that went over the fence? It was a double.

Ceetar Sep 09 2011 09:30 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

no harm. It just disturbs me when I check back in a thread and find myself being criticized. What was the first throw? I think I missed that one. I saw him double clutch and throw offline for the tying run, but in truth he didn't really have a shot and I feel like most CFers throw well up the line more than half the time too. Nice play by Thole coming out and keeping it from going to the backstop though.

Gwreck Sep 09 2011 09:30 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Fun ending but a sloppy game. If I were the Cubs' manager, I would've pulled Soriano for loafing after that pop fly double that Jose had early in the game. If I were the Mets' manager, I would've pinch-hit for Pelfrey in the 6th. I like that they do a live in-stadium interview after walk-off hits, even if it's totally obvious to everyone that the whipped-cream pie-in-the-face is coming.

Ceetar Sep 09 2011 09:32 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Gwreck wrote: How about Turner's single that went over the fence? It was a double. That's what I thought, but Wayne said single on the recap and I figured he was closer to the official scorer and should actually know. Gwreck wrote: Fun ending but a sloppy game. If I were the Cubs' manager, I would've pulled Soriano for loafing after that pop fly double that Jose had early in the game. If I were the Mets' manager, I would've pinch-hit for Pelfrey in the 6th. I like that they do a live in-stadium interview after walk-off hits, even if it's totally obvious to everyone that the whipped-cream pie-in-the-face is coming. yeah. Burkhardt even commented as such, that he knew it was coming. I was okay with Pelfrey for the 6th, but I would've lifted him after that. I wouldn't have sacrificed with Thole.

Gwreck Sep 09 2011 09:35 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: What was the first throw? Throwing to second on Ramirez's hit in the top of the third.

Gwreck Sep 09 2011 09:36 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: That's what I thought, but Wayne said single on the recap and I figured he was closer to the official scorer and should actually know. Wayne was wrong

Ceetar Sep 09 2011 09:38 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Nice writeup on [u:1770ejsr]Fe Y Temor en Flushing[/u:1770ejsr] in the latest edition of Mets Magazine though. Comes with an English translation as well.

Ceetar Sep 09 2011 10:03 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

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G-Fafif Sep 09 2011 11:06 PM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: Nice writeup on Fe Y Temor en Flushing in the latest edition of Mets Magazine though. Comes with an English translation as well. ¡Con Fanaticos Optimista de los Mets -- muy bien! Paginas 153, 154 de edicion 5

Frayed Knot Sep 10 2011 05:45 AM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Even when Pagan's fielding was top-notch in 2010 I still remember his throwing as, at best, nothing special, and, at worst, sub-par. This year it's been just plain awful which I think is even more obvious as his overall defense takes a nose-dive. both the triple safe call at third, and the subsequent out at the plate seemed like blown calls. truth? Yup. The wrong-ness of the one at home was less-clear, but probably still wrong.

Frayed Knot Sep 10 2011 06:12 AM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

How about Turner's single that went over the fence? Ventura in the building tonight.. Since the grounds-rule double is automatic, as long as Turner actually reaches 2B (and he did) it counts as a double. Robin's problem is that he never even got that far because - like that guy in Tiananmen Square - he had a tank in front of him. There was actually a pre-1920 rule which only gave the batter credit for the hit that was "needed" in walk-off situations (not that they called them walk-offs back then ... not sure what phrase was in vogue with the ESPN geeks at the time). Ruth lost a HR off his total when he blasted one over the fence in a tie game with a runner on 1st and was only credited with a triple. A big debate arose at the time this was discovered as to whether to augment his total to 715 (this was during the time when Aaron was approaching the record) but the ultimate ruling was to stick to the scoring rules as they existed at the time.

Ceetar Sep 10 2011 06:16 AM Re: IGT - 9/9/11 baby bears @ Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: How about Turner's single that went over the fence? Ventura in the building tonight.. Since the grounds-rule double is automatic, as long as Turner actually reaches 2B (and he did) it counts as a double. Robin's problem is that he never even got that far because - like that guy in Tiananmen Square - he had a tank in front of him. There was actually a pre-1920 rule which only gave the batter credit for the hit that was "needed" in walk-off situations (not that they called them walk-offs back then ... not sure what phrase was in vogue with the ESPN geeks at the time). Ruth lost a HR off his total when he blasted one over the fence in a tie game with a runner on 1st and was only credited with a triple. A big debate arose at the time this was discovered as to whether to augment his total to 715 (this was during the time when Aaron was approaching the record) but the ultimate ruling was to stick to the scoring rules as they existed at the time. Ruth lost other homers too, since balls that hooked foul AFTER clearing the fence were ruled foul. it's pretty hard to retroactively alter stuff like that. I'll chalk this one up to Wayne being Wayne then.