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Reinforcements 2011

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 31 2011 08:32 PM

Along with ageless Miguel Batista, Joshes Stinson and Satin are up with the big club, effective tomorrow. (But they won't be eligible for the postseason!)

metsguyinmichigan Aug 31 2011 08:48 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Along with ageless Miguel Batista, Joshes Stinson and Satin are up with the big club, effective tomorrow. (But they won't be eligible for the postseason!) Shoot! And we had home field advantage in the World Series, too! Could have used them!

Frayed Knot Aug 31 2011 09:07 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Nights with Josh Satin never reaching the fence Hope he can hit some cuz he can't play defense ...

Edgy DC Aug 31 2011 09:20 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Wright's in Manhattan In a penthouse on Fifth Batista calls him 'Cuz he wants to crash with

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2011 04:27 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

No Schwinden? Or just not yet? Mets to Add Two From Minors By ANDREW KEH The Mets announced Wednesday night that they would promote two minor leaguers, pitcher Josh Stinson and infielder Josh Satin, once rosters can expand on Sept. 1. And the call-ups, as expected, exhibited just how much the Mets’ vision of the season has changed since spring training, well before the team was ravaged by injuries and trades. On Wednesday, Manager Terry Collins listed the names that he had expected to see as September call-ups: Ruben Tejada, Lucas Duda, Nick Evans, Mike Nickeas. “And they’re all already here,” Collins said. As Collins explained, many players the Mets would have granted chances to showcase their skills are already getting those opportunities. At the same time, the Mets are effectively out of the pennant race, meaning they do not need to stock their bench with additional tools. Earlier Wednesday, the assistant general manager John Ricco revealed how the Mets’ front office had managed these particular circumstances approaching the call-up period. “You can always use extra bullpen arms,” Ricco said. “It’s been a long season, guys are getting tired. September’s a good time to be able to supplement the team a bit.” Stinson, 23, a 6-foot-4 right-hander, fits that category. He has worked most recently out of the bullpen for Class AA Binghamton, posting a 3.99 earned run average in 27 games there. Ricco said: “The other thing you look to do is if there’s a guy or two who’s had an outstanding minor league season, whether or not they’re a prospect, sometimes you look to reward them.” That would be Satin. Satin, 26, started the year at Class AA Binghamton, where he hit .325 with 11 home runs in 94 games. He continued to hit at Buffalo, posting a .317 average with one home run in 38 games. His skills call to mind Daniel Murphy: a line-drive hitter with perhaps no natural position in the field. In an interview this month, General Manager Sandy Alderson acknowledged some of Satin’s shortcomings and said he doubted the Mets would promote him by year’s end. “He’s older, and some commentators will say he doesn’t have a position,” Alderson said. But, as Alderson added, “He’s an excellent hitter, and if you can hit, you’ll get an opportunity in the big leagues.” Alderson proved his own words true.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2011 06:55 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Uniform numbers: Stinson 63 Satin 3

HahnSolo Sep 01 2011 07:18 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

A John Ricco sighting!

MFS62 Sep 01 2011 08:19 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

I used to think that if Horace Clark and Chuck Hiller could be every day second basemen in the majors, so could I. And Satin has to be better than I was. Welcome to the bigs, Josh, even though your mother still wishes you were a Doctor. Later

metirish Sep 01 2011 08:22 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Was there not a young gun in the minors able to take the start tonight instead of Batista?, nothing against Miquel, just curious.

MFS62 Sep 01 2011 08:26 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

metirish wrote: Was there not a young gun in the minors able to take the start tonight instead of Batista?, nothing against Miquel, just curious. I don't think there's a single pitcher who I would like to see (Familia) who would be able to take this start in a normal turn. At least RA will have someone his own generation and intellect in the clubhouse. Later

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2011 08:35 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Were any of you present at Josh Satin's birth? I have conflicting reports about his birthplace. Was it Hidden Hills, California? Or Los Angeles?

MFS62 Sep 01 2011 08:42 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Were any of you present at Josh Satin's birth? I have conflicting reports about his birthplace. Was it Hidden Hills, California? Or Los Angeles? Hidden Hills is part of Los Angeles County. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Hills,_California Probably like a Riverdale/ Bronx kind of thing. Later

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2011 08:43 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

That seems to explain the discrepancy. Thanks!

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2011 09:29 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

MFS62 wrote: metirish wrote: Was there not a young gun in the minors able to take the start tonight instead of Batista?, nothing against Miquel, just curious. I don't think there's a single pitcher who I would like to see (Familia) who would be able to take this start in a normal turn. At least RA will have someone his own generation and intellect in the clubhouse. Plus you've got the questions about burning option years and adding players to 40-man rosters only to risk losing them this winter that simply aren't worth the handful of starts a young'un would get over the next few weeks. Mejia would have been a candidate but he's all injured and shit. Adding Batista carries no risk to it and makes him the perfect fill-in type for this sort of situation.

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2011 09:30 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

MFS62 wrote: Were any of you present at Josh Satin's birth? I have conflicting reports about his birthplace. Was it Hidden Hills, California? Or Los Angeles? Hidden Hills is part of Los Angeles County. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Hills,_California Probably like a Riverdale/ Bronx kind of thing. It was probably part of the territory added to LA by John Huston and the corrupt water commission.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2011 11:24 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Uniform numbers: Stinson 63 Satin 3 I just checked MBTN and Stinson is in fact going to be the first-ever number 63 for the Mets. I long ago decided that if I ever bought a Mets jersey (which is unlikely) I'd get 63, for two reasons: No Met had ever worn it, and it's the year of my birth. Now one of those two reasons is shot.

metsguyinmichigan Sep 01 2011 11:33 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Uniform numbers: Stinson 63 Satin 3 I just checked MBTN and Stinson is in fact going to be the first-ever number 63 for the Mets. I long ago decided that if I ever bought a Mets jersey (which is unlikely) I'd get 63, for two reasons: No Met had ever worn it, and it's the year of my birth. Now one of those two reasons is shot. Kind of wild that this is the first time a Met has worn a number as the team closes in on 50 years. Granted, it's a spring training number. I have to consult one of my favorite books to learn how many other numbers below 70 have never been worn. Can't be too many.

G-Fafif Sep 02 2011 04:47 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Miguel Batista became the 18th player to make his Met debut on September 1 -- thus the 18th member of the New Toy Club. Maybe its most unlikely, given his vintage. He's the seventh NTCer to Met-debut on 9/1 with prior MLB experience. All five before last year (Joaquin Arias) arrived amid ultimately doomed pennant races: Ron Herbel (1970), Lou Thornton (1989), Charlie O'Brien and Tommy Herr (1990) and Rigo Beltran (1998). Eight almost New Toys made their debuts on September 2. The first two, Buddy Harrelson and Dick Selma, chose (or had chosen for them) the same day Casey Stengel had his number retired, 9/2/1965. You may have seen the clip of the unceremonious ceremony the Mets held, well before game time, probably before BP, with Ol' Case posing for photographers in an empty Shea Stadum. Then again Casey's prime constituency with the Mets was the media, so maybe there was something to it.

G-Fafif Sep 02 2011 05:37 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Dan Herrera joins the pen, wearing 19.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 02 2011 07:06 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Uniform numbers: Stinson 63 Satin 3 I just checked MBTN and Stinson is in fact going to be the first-ever number 63 for the Mets. I long ago decided that if I ever bought a Mets jersey (which is unlikely) I'd get 63, for two reasons: No Met had ever worn it, and it's the year of my birth. Now one of those two reasons is shot. Kind of wild that this is the first time a Met has worn a number as the team closes in on 50 years. Granted, it's a spring training number. I have to consult one of my favorite books to learn how many other numbers below 70 have never been worn. Can't be too many. Are we certain on this 63 for Stinson? Roster has him listed as 64 (although that was also his number in Spring Training)

Ceetar Sep 02 2011 07:24 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Uniform numbers: Stinson 63 Satin 3 I just checked MBTN and Stinson is in fact going to be the first-ever number 63 for the Mets. I long ago decided that if I ever bought a Mets jersey (which is unlikely) I'd get 63, for two reasons: No Met had ever worn it, and it's the year of my birth. Now one of those two reasons is shot. Kind of wild that this is the first time a Met has worn a number as the team closes in on 50 years. Granted, it's a spring training number. I have to consult one of my favorite books to learn how many other numbers below 70 have never been worn. Can't be too many. Are we certain on this 63 for Stinson? Roster has him listed as 64 (although that was also his number in Spring Training) he was just 64 in the game, so..

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 02 2011 07:25 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Makes you forget Elmer Dessens ever lived.

Ceetar Sep 02 2011 07:33 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Makes you forget Elmer Dessens ever lived. who? I spent about an hour this afternoon trying to remember Mike Hessman.

Edgy DC Sep 02 2011 09:41 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

I just remembered that Gary Sheffield spent all of 2009 as a Met. UMDB says he batted cleanup 44 times. Whoah!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 02 2011 11:59 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

I'm alreday forgetting that Miguel Batista was ever a Met. My latest "no memory Met" is Cory Sullivan.

G-Fafif Sep 03 2011 04:33 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Josh Stinson: Ninth Met to make MLB debut on September 2, joining Buddy Harrelson, Dick Selma, Mookie Wilson, Wally Backman, Kevin Elster, Danny Garcia, Tim Hamulack and Jon Niese. It's like making your major league debut on September 1 -- but later.

themetfairy Sep 03 2011 05:28 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Josh Satin waits with envy....

Met Hunter Sep 03 2011 03:41 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Ray(Knight) Jeff(In)nis Rick(White) Josh(Satin)

G-Fafif Sep 03 2011 10:41 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Met Hunter wrote: Ray(Knight) Jeff(In)nis Rick(White) Josh(Satin) Parnell never reaching the end.

Edgy DC Sep 05 2011 05:08 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Schwinden, Pascucci, and Baxter added. Backman and Teufel to follow.

MFS62 Sep 05 2011 05:18 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Edgy DC wrote: Schwinden, Pascucci and Baxter added. Who did they have to cut to put him on the 40 man roster? He's this year's "long and meritorious service, so we'll give you a cup of coffee" player. Welcome to the bigs, Val. Later

Edgy DC Sep 05 2011 05:28 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

It's unofficial as of yet, and I think they're due to join the team tomorrow, but I'm certain it's just a matter of a paper transaction. Probably adding Ike Davis to the 60-Day.

Ceetar Sep 05 2011 08:19 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Edgy DC wrote: It's unofficial as of yet, and I think they're due to join the team tomorrow, but I'm certain it's just a matter of a paper transaction. Probably adding Ike Davis to the 60-Day. think they need another transaction though. one for Val, one for Schwinden. Was that Harris' last AB?

Gwreck Sep 05 2011 08:57 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Mejia isn't listed on the Mets' website as 60-day DL but he must also be there as well.

Ceetar Sep 05 2011 09:03 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Gwreck wrote: Mejia isn't listed on the Mets' website as 60-day DL but he must also be there as well. Not sure on that. Someone told me that to do so would activate major league service time, something the Mets probably don't want to do. As it is they didn't have to waste an option year on him this year since he didn't play.

Gwreck Sep 05 2011 10:26 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

You're not sure on what? That he's on the disabled list? Forgive me for not putting much faith in "someone" who "told you" this. Placing Mejia on the disabled list does not accumulate major league service time as he was not placed on the major league disabled list. As to the question regarding his option years, he will be eligible for a fourth option year based on the fact that he will not have accumulated five full seasons of professional service before his three option years are up. See here: http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php? ... &Itemid=75

Ceetar Sep 06 2011 05:19 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Gwreck wrote: You're not sure on what? That he's on the disabled list? Forgive me for not putting much faith in "someone" who "told you" this. Placing Mejia on the disabled list does not accumulate major league service time as he was not placed on the major league disabled list. As to the question regarding his option years, he will be eligible for a fourth option year based on the fact that he will not have accumulated five full seasons of professional service before his three option years are up. See here: http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php? ... &Itemid=75 correct on the option year. major league DL is different than the minor league one. I don't know the differences and semantics, but it certainly may be that you can't remove someone from the 40 man while they're in the minors. after all, how would you tell the difference between rehab games and actually active games? You could leave them on the 60day indefinitely.

Gwreck Sep 06 2011 05:40 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Of course you can remove someone from the 40-man roster when they are on optional assignment in the minors. Doing so, however, is going to open a player up to being lost, whether via a waiver claim or the Rule V draft. That's not the point, however. If Mejia is on the 60-day DL -- even the minor league 60 day DL -- he would not "count" against the 40-man limit, the same way that Murphy doesn't "count" against the 40-man limit.

Ceetar Sep 06 2011 06:00 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Minor League Baseball uses a 7-day disabled list for all injuries. Players who are on the 40-man roster but get hurt in the minor leagues are placed on the minor league DL, but not on the major league DL. One problem this poses is that a player who is injured in the minors and who would be placed on the major league 60-day DL cannot be placed on the 60-day, meaning the 40-man roster spot is not freed up. from Wikipedia. sounds like Niese might be done for the year though.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 06 2011 10:56 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Disabled list, shmisabled list. Cheers to VAL! PAS-CUCCI! [youtube:cbrmnkly]zUzjuc0NNeU[/youtube:cbrmnkly]

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 06 2011 11:27 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Disabled list, shmisabled list. Cheers to VAL! PAS-CUCCI! [youtube]zUzjuc0NNeU[/youtube] THAT! IS-AWESOME! Laa da da da la la laaa Laa da da da la la laaa Laa da da da la la laaa

bmfc1 Sep 06 2011 01:54 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

AdamRubinESPN Adam Rubin Chris Schwinden is scheduled for Game 1 of Thursday's doubleheader against Altanta.

Vic Sage Sep 06 2011 03:31 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

I saw the Big V launch one in Buffalo last summer. Pascucci!! Come on down!

metirish Sep 06 2011 05:37 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Disabled list, shmisabled list. Cheers to VAL! PAS-CUCCI! [youtube]zUzjuc0NNeU[/youtube] THAT! IS-AWESOME! Laa da da da la la laaa Laa da da da la la laaa Laa da da da la la laaa

G-Fafif Sep 09 2011 11:16 AM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Thayer, Thayer, Dale's coming back.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 09 2011 12:09 PM Re: Reinforcements 2011

Whomp, Thayer it Is!