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1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

G-Fafif Sep 08 2011 07:10 AM

We hold a two-game lead with 23 to play. BEST EAST EVER Through 139 Games 1986 METS: 93-46 2011 Phils: 91-48

Ceetar Sep 08 2011 07:12 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

We hold a two-game lead with 23 to play. BEST EAST EVER Through 139 Games 1986 METS: 93-46 2011 Phils: 91-48 I was hoping it wouldn't come to this. *sigh* I don't care that I was 4 and a half. The 1986 Mets were better. They didn't have the soft Marlins to beat up on 18 times a year.

sharpie Sep 08 2011 07:29 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

The '86 Mets did go 17-1 vs. the 98-loss Pirates.

Ceetar Sep 08 2011 07:40 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

sharpie wrote: The '86 Mets did go 17-1 vs. the 98-loss Pirates. shush.

Frayed Knot Sep 08 2011 07:42 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 08 2011 07:43 AM

Two games doesn't sound like a lot, but looked at another way it means that while the '86ers were able to cruise to a 15-8 finish (about their year-long norm and including that ill-timed, pre-clinching three-game losing streak) these Phils have to put together a much tougher 17-6 string just to match it, and that starts with their four-game series in Beer-town kicking off tonight*. What they do have a good shot at is the second best NL record since '86 which I believe belongs to the 104 win NL West Braves team that nudged out the 103-win Giants in the final season prior to realignment and then the introduction to the WC era. The AL, on the other hand, has 105-win or better teams about every other year it seems. * Just realized that I used the phrase 'kicking off' to describe a series opener which will coincide with the SB-champ Packers opener at home. The easy joke here is the one about whether the game actually counts if there's no one in the stands or watching on TV, although I recently heard a "stat" about how the Brewers TV gets the largest percentage of their market tuned-in to their games. Not the most pair of eyeballs by raw number of course because it's a smaller universe than many others but, when you add up the home attendance and TV viewers as a percentage of the whole, the Brews do as well as anyone and maybe better than all.

metirish Sep 08 2011 07:43 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

Phillies are 8-2 in their last 10, on pace for how many wins?

metirish Sep 08 2011 07:44 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

FK basically gave me the answer.

G-Fafif Sep 08 2011 08:01 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

The freaking Braves won 106 in 1998, but lost to the Padres in the NLCS.

G-Fafif Sep 09 2011 05:39 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 140 Games 1986 METS: 93-47 2011 Phils: 92-48 We need the Brewers to start winning -- with no offensive help whatsoever from Ryan Braun.

G-Fafif Sep 09 2011 10:53 PM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 141 Games 1986 METS: 93-48 2011 Phils: 93-48 Mets hold the tie breaker based on the Phillies suck.

G-Fafif Sep 10 2011 11:06 PM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 142 Games 2011 Phils: 94-48 1986 METS: 93-49 Groan.

Fman99 Sep 11 2011 05:36 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

It'll make it all the sweeter when they get swept out in the Wild Card round by, uh, some other team. I'd have to check the standings, I'll admit, I have no idea who's winning in the Central and West these days.

Ashie62 Sep 11 2011 12:29 PM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

The 1986 Mets are the best team I have ever seen..

G-Fafif Sep 12 2011 04:20 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 143 Games 2011 Phils: 94-49 1986 METS: 93-50 Good news: Phillies lost. Better news: Mets of sparkling vintage won't be doing so much of that anymore.

G-Fafif Sep 13 2011 03:27 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 144 Games 1986 METS: 94-50 2011 Phils: 94-50 Good news: Mets about to clinch. Bad news: So are the Phillies.

G-Fafif Sep 14 2011 04:49 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 145 Games 1986 METS: 95-50 2011 Phils: 94-51 Those Mets clinch. These Phils do not.

Frayed Knot Sep 14 2011 06:36 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

So after taking 3 straight from Milwaukee and looking like; 'Yeah, we're not only going to better that NYM mark but blow through the NL playoffs as well', the Cheese-steaks went and lost the final game to the Brews and now have drooped the first two in Houston. [Sterling]I tell you Susan you just can't figure this game out[/Sterling] As a result, the Phils now need to go 14-3 to match the 108 win season and a steam-rolling 15-2 to better it. Ain't. Gonna. Happen. All those 'At this same point in the season' charts fail to show that the '86ers were destined to finish their season on a 15-4 run. The other race here is the one to see if Houston will LOSE 108 games. Not that that'll get them anywhere near that other NYM record but, with just 14 games remaining, the Astros need a 4-10 or better finish in order to stay ahead of that rarely-reached .333 season. Unexpectedly taking the first two from Philly certainly helped them there. They do have, however, a whopping 10-game lead in the 'We get the first pick in next June's draft' race, so that one looks pretty well sewn up.

G-Fafif Sep 15 2011 01:59 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 146 Games 1986 METS: 96-50 2011 Phils: 95-51 Congratulations to the Philadelphia Phillies on clinching their fifth consecutive playoff berth. Not really.

G-Fafif Sep 16 2011 04:46 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 17 2011 08:28 AM

BEST EAST EVER Through 148 Games 1986 METS: 97-51 2011 Phils: 97-51

HahnSolo Sep 16 2011 06:35 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

Kinda hard to measure how teams will play once they clinch. Didn't the 86 Mets win their last 8 games in a row?

G-Fafif Sep 16 2011 07:31 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

Last five; nine of their last ten.

G-Fafif Sep 17 2011 08:28 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 149 Games 1986 METS: 97-52 2011 Phils: 97-52

Frayed Knot Sep 17 2011 08:57 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

Phils nearly pulled out a win last night as Ryan Howard's PH, 2-out, 9th inning double (just barely safe) was followed by the 3rd out being dropped in RF by Corey Patterson for a game-tying two-bagger. Cards won in the 11th after a rookie getting his 2nd ML AB (Adron Chambers) singled following an IW to Pujols [right move obviously if you're the Phils, just the wrong result] Phils now have to finish out with 12-1 streak to reach 109 wins, or 11-2 to tie the '86ers mark.

G-Fafif Sep 18 2011 05:28 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 150 Games 1986 METS: 98-52 2011 Phils: 98-52 Congratulations to the 2011 National League East champions. Now go fall off a cliff...or a roy.

SteveJRogers Sep 18 2011 09:11 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

Frayed Knot wrote: Phils now have to finish out with 12-1 streak to reach 109 wins, or 11-2 to tie the '86ers mark. Well, gotta bring the 86ers in to rally the troops this weekend. Hey if it worked on Friday to wake up this team...

Frayed Knot Sep 18 2011 09:40 PM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

Phils lose the Sunday nighter to the Cards. Now have to run the table to beat the 108-win mark or go 10-1 to tie. Yeah, I don't think so.

G-Fafif Sep 19 2011 05:25 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 151 Games 1986 METS: 99-52 2011 Phils: 98-53

G-Fafif Sep 20 2011 05:25 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 152 Games 1986 METS: 99-53 2011 Phils: 98-54 The Retroactive Magic Number is 1. Let's hope the 1986 Mets can knock off the Phillies a little quicker this time.

G-Fafif Sep 20 2011 04:57 PM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

BEST EAST EVER Through 153 Games 1986 METS: 100-53 2011 Phils: 98-55 Davey Johnson fires up his Nationals to preserve the dignity of his Mets. With the Phillies' loss to Washington this afternoon, they are eliminated from the hallowed circle of National League East teams that have finished with 108 wins. There's still only one of those.

Edgy DC Sep 20 2011 07:46 PM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

Clapping.

Frayed Knot Sep 20 2011 08:48 PM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

Nationals won the 2nd game of the DP too. So now that the Philly run at 108 is totally blown it would be OK if the Nats lost one or two along the way here. But, if we finish behind them we've got no one to blame but ourselves for that disgusting P.O.S. of a 4-game series.

Frayed Knot Sep 23 2011 08:48 AM Re: 1986 Mets vs. 2011 Phillies

At the rate they're going (lost every game since their clinching) along with the rains which might wash out a game or three, these Phils might not win 100