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Edgy MD Sep 26 2011 10:05 AM

Not a lot of films released this year have featured fictionalized versions of current and former Mets personnel. This one is a notable exception. What did you think?

Willets Point Sep 26 2011 10:21 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Heh-heh, Monkeyballs. Haven't seen the movie

Edgy MD Sep 26 2011 10:23 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Me neither, but Sage --- who was in fact championing this film years ago --- has.

Willets Point Sep 26 2011 10:29 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

So has met fairy. I noted on her Facebook review the irony of having a highly-talented actor portray a lousy manager.

Vic Sage Sep 26 2011 03:32 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

A quiet, contemplative, deliberately paced movie with much to say, that avoids most (if not all) sports movie cliches. I liked it alot. And Pitt's perf as aging jock seemed pitch-perfect, working well off of goofball gone straight Jonah Hill. Just enough baseball to keep it a baseball movie and not a business movie. and it makes a folk hero out of Scott Hatteberg.

Vic Sage Sep 26 2011 03:39 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Edgy DC wrote: Me neither, but Sage --- who was in fact championing this film years ago --- has. Sage has what?

Ceetar Sep 26 2011 05:39 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Didn't make it this weekend, pondering seeing it in San Diego next weekend.

Edgy MD Sep 26 2011 05:44 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Vic Sage wrote: A quiet, contemplative, deliberately paced movie with much to say, that avoids most (if not all) sports movie cliches. I liked it alot. And Pitt's perf as aging jock seemed pitch-perfect, working well off of goofball gone straight Jonah Hill. Just enough baseball to keep it a baseball movie and not a business movie. and it makes a folk hero out of Scott Hatteberg. If I recall correctly, I thought it would die in development because sports movies need a Last Second Victory Against Improbable Odds. Vic insisted the story had enough to sail by anyhow. Looking forward to it.

themetfairy Sep 26 2011 06:27 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Aaron Sorkin never lets the facts get in the way of a good story. The Moneyball principles were being used way before the 2002 season. And how can you tell the story of that season without acknowledging that the team had the 2000 Cy Young runner-up (Hudson), the 2001 Cy Young runner-up (Mulder), the 2002 Cy Young Award winner (Zito) and the 2002 MVP (Tejada)? That said, it was an entertaining film.

Frayed Knot Sep 26 2011 06:56 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Vic Sage wrote: A quiet, contemplative, deliberately paced movie with much to say, that avoids most (if not all) sports movie cliches. I liked it alot. And Pitt's perf as aging jock seemed pitch-perfect, working well off of goofball gone straight Jonah Hill. Just enough baseball to keep it a baseball movie and not a business movie. and it makes a folk hero out of Scott Hatteberg. Yeah, pretty much this. It's not the book, which is OK because I didn't go in expecting it to be. Beane's relationship with his daughter, barely mentioned in the book, is played up as a sizable part of the story to bring the human element into things. Other parts from the book are left out (the amateur draft portion) and naturally timelines are skewed, simplified, or condensed from actual happenings. And what that all means is that those who misinterpreted what 'Moneyball' means because they misread or never read the thing it in the first place (Joe Morgan, Mike Francesa) are going to have a whole new set of reasons misunderstand it. Particularly well done are the virtually seem-less transitions back and forth between actual footage of 2002 baseball scenes and shot footage, sometimes to the point where it's tough to tell which is which. Met connections/sightings: Beane of course. Not just as A's GM but also in flashback scenes to his signing and his NYM career (wearing #35 with shots of Straw in the background) Art Howe. Played by Philip Hoffman as much more grouchy than the sunny if bland Art we all knew and ... tolerated. Chad Bradford. One of the few players with significant speaking parts. Paper NYM David Justice. A prominent player/actor in the flick. Izzy. Often mentioned but never shown.

Vic Sage Sep 26 2011 08:02 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

themetfairy wrote: Aaron Sorkin never lets the facts get in the way of a good story. The Moneyball principles were being used way before the 2002 season. And how can you tell the story of that season without acknowledging that the team had the 2000 Cy Young runner-up (Hudson), the 2001 Cy Young runner-up (Mulder), the 2002 Cy Young Award winner (Zito) and the 2002 MVP (Tejada)? That said, it was an entertaining film. first of all, Sorkin was the third writer brought in on the project, and really was brought in to punch up the dialogue more than structure the story. so the crack about sorkin is just factually incorrect. secondly, as Michael Lewis himself pointed out in an interview with Costas, the drafting of Hudson and Zito was as much due to a "moneyball" analysis as anything else in the story... they were hardly "can't miss" scouting wet dreams. But in any event, the story was about the players Beane decided to bring in that season and why. they weren't making a "Bull Durham" sports comedy about all the guys on the team. they were telling a story about an idea, a philosophy. which is a hard thing to do; they would've had a much easier time doing it almost any other way. so good on them.

themetfairy Sep 26 2011 08:13 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

I'll disagree Vic. The implication of the script was that Beane adopted the "Moneyball" strategy as a direct reaction to the loss of the 2001 ALDS. The further implication was that the success of the 2002 team was the direct and immediate result of Beane's moves during that offseason. It may make for a nice tale, but it's not the real story of that team.

Ceetar Sep 27 2011 09:21 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Edgy DC wrote: Vic Sage wrote: A quiet, contemplative, deliberately paced movie with much to say, that avoids most (if not all) sports movie cliches. I liked it alot. And Pitt's perf as aging jock seemed pitch-perfect, working well off of goofball gone straight Jonah Hill. Just enough baseball to keep it a baseball movie and not a business movie. and it makes a folk hero out of Scott Hatteberg. If I recall correctly, I thought it would die in development because sports movies need a Last Second Victory Against Improbable Odds. Vic insisted the story had enough to sail by anyhow. Looking forward to it. The book has one of these, and near the end if I recall, when the A's break the consecutive win streak record after falling behind in the game. That must have made the movie right?

Frayed Knot Sep 27 2011 10:34 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Your details are a bit off but, yes, that moment is built into the movie although not as the big payoff/climax as would be the case in a typical sports flick.

bmfc1 Sep 27 2011 12:31 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

I enjoyed it but didn't love it. There's no ending, just a possible moment of realization for Beane, and the parts with the daughter were superfluous and only served to make the movie a half-hour too long.

themetfairy Sep 27 2011 03:21 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

bmfc1 wrote: I enjoyed it but didn't love it. There's no ending, just a possible moment of realization for Beane, and the parts with the daughter were superfluous and only served to make the movie a half-hour too long. This

Vic Sage Sep 27 2011 08:47 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

not superfluous. his relationship to his ex-wife and daughter humanizes him, and gives him more of a reason to stay in Oakland (near her, rather than east coast). The daughter's song provides a funny and touching coda, as he listens to her sing about what a "loser" he is.

Vic Sage Sep 27 2011 08:50 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

It may make for a nice tale, but it's not the real story of that team. like all good storytellers, they lie the truth and don't let facts get in the way.

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2011 07:17 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Both former Met Howe & current one DePodesta less than pleased with how they're portrayed. Howe (to InsideBayArea.com): “I’m very disappointed, very disappointed, ... I look at it as character assassination. It wasn’t even close to my personality,“ ... “They just went out of their way to degrade me.” “I spent my whole career trying to build a good reputation and I think I did that but this movie certainly doesn’t help it," the mild-mannered Howe said on Sirius/XM Radio. "And it is definitely unfair and untrue. If you ask any player that ever played for me they would say that they never saw this side of me, ever.” DePodesta: "I can't take it seriously and I certainly can't take it personally. We'll see when I actually see it, but I'm determined not to take it too seriously." DePodesta had asked the producers not to use his name in the picture -- "I was asked and saw some different iterations of the script, and I realized the character that was in there wasn't even me. At that point I had to remind myself, 'It's a movie. It's fiction.' " However, a Los Angeles columnist who covered DePodesta as Dodgers GM says actor Jonah Hill "nails DePodesta ... his shy mannerisms, his uncomfortable silences, his awkwardness in sharing his newfangled theories with old men spitting tobacco into cups, his fear in dealing with players."

metirish Sep 28 2011 07:50 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Feel bad for Howe, is it true they used a prop to portray him?

TransMonk Sep 28 2011 07:56 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Edgy MD Sep 28 2011 07:58 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Six votes and a 3.83 average. Not bad.

metirish Sep 28 2011 08:03 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Over at Rotten Tomatoes it has a 4.25 rating http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/moneyball/

Vic Sage Sep 28 2011 09:56 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

based on what we saw of Howe in NY, i'd say Hoffman's portrayal of him is not the least unfair and probably accurate. It makes him out to be a quiet, calm, professional and unexceptional but competent manager who is doggedly determined not to buckle under to his GM's farfetched theories, since he's working on a 1-year deal and will need to find another organization to hire him some day. That he is, in the story's "moneyball" view, wrong-headed in his philosophy doesn't demean him, particularly, but mirrors can be so damned upsetting sometimes.

Vic Sage Sep 28 2011 10:13 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

There's a moment i love toward the end. the movie keeps its focus on the core story: the resistance to the team's construction, their early failures, and their turnaround, the run for the record before coming up short, and Beane's coming to terms with his own past. So it doesn't dramatize one of the great scenes in the book, where they prepare for the minor league draft. It would have stopped the story dead in in its tracks. Also, it would have repeated the earlier scene with the scouts, as they are arguing over what free agents to pursue, serving an identical function in the narrative. So i agree that it was not a scene the movie needed, or could even reasonably include. But they still found a way to reference it, while giving the movie a touching denoument. Beane is upset because they lost in the playoffs again, and so Brand/DePodesta shows him a clip of their fat catching prospect, Jeremy Brown (the one the book spent much time on, as the focus of the draft debate), as he plays a game in the minors. He gets a hit but is such a bad base runner, he falls down rounding first. What he didn't realize was he had hit a homerun. so he gets up, dusts himself off and rounds the bases. This is Brand/DePodesta's message to Beane: Billy, you fell down rounding first but what you don't realize is, you hit a home run. Boston offered to make you the highest paid GM in sports, other franchises will emulate what we've done here, we've changed the game. It reminds me of the end of CAMELOT, where Arthur is in despair about having to go to war against his best friend Lancelot, while the woman he loved has confined herself to a nunnery after betraying him. And there, on the eve of battle, he comes across a boy who wants to be a knight, inspired only by the stories he's heard about the nobility and principles of Arthur's roundtable. This boy, he realizes, is his real victory. And so he tells the boy to stay safe behind the lines, and grow up to retell the tales to his own children for, as long as that fair time is remembered, it may come again. The power of myth. It gets me every time. And so here, the knight thinks he has failed not realizing that, in lighting the darkness, he has already succeeded. "oh, but that's not what REALLY happened!" oh shut up.

Willets Point Sep 28 2011 11:30 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

And the boy who appears at the end of Camelot is Thomas Malory, author of the Arthurian tales collected in Le Morte D'Arthur. I've always liked that touch.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 28 2011 05:02 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Vic Sage wrote: There's a moment i love toward the end. the movie keeps its focus on the core story: the resistance to the team's construction, their early failures, and their turnaround, the run for the record before coming up short, and Beane's coming to terms with his own past. So it doesn't dramatize one of the great scenes in the book, where they prepare for the minor league draft. It would have stopped the story dead in in its tracks. Also, it would have repeated the earlier scene with the scouts, as they are arguing over what free agents to pursue, serving an identical function in the narrative. So i agree that it was not a scene the movie needed, or could even reasonably include. But they still found a way to reference it, while giving the movie a touching denoument. They also fold as much of the good stuff from the draft scenes-- "good face," "ugly girlfriend," "Who's Fabio?"-- into the scouts' discussion. A composite scene, if you will.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 05 2011 01:43 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

I loved the movie. Spoiler here, but the only bit I wasn't into was all the attention paid to the 20-game win streak. Plus you did have the the "Last Second Victory Against Improbable Odds" when Hatteburg smacks the dramatic homer in the 20th game. It felt kinda like movie pandering to the lowest common denominator baseball fan and it didn't seem all that relevant to the point of the story. But then the next scene is Pitt saying it doesn't mean shit if you don't win the last game of the series, and it only serves to sell some tickets and hot dogs in the meantime, and he really could've been talking about the team or the movie at that point and I loved it. It was like they put that scene in the movie to try and let you think it was important and then took it back and said, 'No it's not. At all.' Pitt, PS Hoffman, Hill, & the kid who played Pitt's daughter were all great. And I don't know if those dudes who played scouts were real scouts, but they had me. And Robin Wright is still a sexy mama. Great flick.

Vic Sage Oct 05 2011 10:27 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

It was like they put that scene in the movie to try and let you think it was important and then took it back and said, 'No it's not. At all.' exactly. it was like "sports movie" revisionism. loved that.

Edgy MD Oct 09 2011 10:00 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Frayed Knot wrote: Met connections/sightings: Beane of course. Not just as A's GM but also in flashback scenes to his signing and his NYM career (wearing #35 with shots of Straw in the background) Art Howe. Played by Philip Hoffman as much more grouchy than the sunny if bland Art we all knew and ... tolerated. Chad Bradford. One of the few players with significant speaking parts. Paper NYM David Justice. A prominent player/actor in the flick. Izzy. Often mentioned but never shown. We also got some brief but sexy Jeff Tam action. Not sure if I saw Mike Fyhrie. I was rooting for Beane the moment I saw his ex-wife's house. I don't know what went down behind closed doors, but my impression was that Art Howe deserved better. On the other hand, he was dumped after 205 wins in two years, so they certainly weren't much enamored with him.

sharpie Oct 10 2011 10:23 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Also, Beane has a phone confab with Steve Phillips. I liked it. The scout he fired reminded me of John Boehner.

Edgy MD Oct 10 2011 11:43 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Art Howe, whatever his flaws and virtues, is (and was) at least an athletic man. Jeremy Giambi was also played by a guy who was about 5'9". And the David Justice actor, while he had a well-cut torso, had skinny little legs. Nice swing, though. I was disappointed to find out the 2002 Visalia Oaks didn't actually have a profoundly obese catcher.

Frayed Knot Oct 10 2011 12:47 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

I read a story about the Justice actor being a star in HS who went on to play some minor league ball* - although I don't find any record of it in BB-Ref, at least not under his acting name of Steven Bishop. Funny also how much different he looked than he did while singing at the frat party in 'Animal House'. The story of the blimpy catcher who didn't realize he hit the HR was from the book and it's the somewhat famous case of Jeremy Brown, the 2001 draft pick none of the scouts wanted -- 'he wears a big pair of underwear' -- but Beane made the 35th overall pick and thus the symbol of the 'Moneyball Draft'. He's listed in BB-Ref at 5' 10" - 226 (I think the movie bumped that up to 250) and was in Visalia for most of that season. He wound up getting 3 ABs in the majors before retiring at the end of the 2007 year. That was one of those points in the flick where I was wondering if the scene was shot of the movie or was actual baseball footage because I was watching that saying; 'I didn't think Jeremy Brown was THAT big'. * oe: now that I think about it, it may have been college ball and not pro ball that he played. It would also explain the absence in BB-Ref

Edgy MD Oct 10 2011 05:05 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Oh, I didn't connect that guy with Jeremy Brown. I should have, but that guy seemed at least three bills.

Frayed Knot Oct 10 2011 06:40 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

The might not have said Jeremy Brown in the movie, but they did say 'our 250 lb catcher who no one else wanted' (or words to that effect) and the story about the unseen HR was Brown. And, yeah, they definitely over-did the size thing for dramatic effect. He was big, but he wasn't that big.

Edgy MD Oct 10 2011 08:40 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Two forumites gave it a 10? Really? I mean, Citizen Kane, The Battleship Potemkin, Ran, and Moneyball? I liked it plenty, but I'm not about to go knocking on my neighbor's doors to tell them they've got to go see it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 11 2011 12:22 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Edgy DC wrote: Art Howe, whatever his flaws and virtues, is (and was) at least an athletic man. Jeremy Giambi was also played by a guy who was about 5'9". And the David Justice actor, while he had a well-cut torso, had skinny little legs. Nice swing, though. These little bits aside... didn't the Giambi guy conjure up Giambi for you? And Bradford, too? And, for all his doughiness and obstinacy, Movie Art Howe has about 300% of the balls that I picture Real Art Howe having. A more grizzled-looking, tobaccy-loving, itinerant version of me might say that virtually all of the baseball actors in this movie had "the face." And the Hatteberg guy-- he's also fun on "Parks and Recreation," whenever I get around to seeing it-- is plus-plus with the comic timing, with a sneaky-good, potential-plus change-up-role-for-a-supporting-actor-Oscar-someday in the repertoire.

Edgy MD Oct 11 2011 05:43 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

The Hatteburg guy had my favorite scene --- the 10 bitter soul-searing seconds of silence of him sitting around the house at Christmastime waiting for the phone to ring and tell him his life isn't over. You got the idea he had been sitting in that same place since October 1, watching his model family coming and going in his model home, wondering if he was worthy of any of it, and if it's all going to disappear on him at any moment... if that fucking phone doesn't ring. I imagined the same fear and ice in dozens or hundreds of ballplayer homes every Christmas. Ron Washington had the best line in the movie. Ron Washington!

Vic Sage Oct 12 2011 12:48 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Edgy DC wrote: Two forumites gave it a 10? Really? I mean, Citizen Kane, The Battleship Potemkin, Ran, and Moneyball? I liked it plenty, but I'm not about to go knocking on my neighbor's doors to tell them they've got to go see it. this. i remember a typically vitriolic exchange with willets about grading movies, especially recent movies, with such unequivocally high ratings. Ah, WP. a nemesis to remember.

TransMonk Oct 12 2011 01:35 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Vic Sage wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Two forumites gave it a 10? Really? I mean, Citizen Kane, The Battleship Potemkin, Ran, and Moneyball? I liked it plenty, but I'm not about to go knocking on my neighbor's doors to tell them they've got to go see it. this. i remember a typically vitriolic exchange with willets about grading movies, especially recent movies, with such unequivocally high ratings. Ah, WP. a nemesis to remember. Yeah! I'm not sure why the author of this poll even included it as an option when it is so unequivocally wrong. I still haven't seen it. It will come to cable in about six months...just in time for baseball season, prolly.

Vic Sage Oct 12 2011 01:57 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Yeah! I'm not sure why the author of this poll even included it as an option when it is so unequivocally wrong sorry Monk, but you just don't have WP's panache.

Edgy MD Nov 06 2011 07:21 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Takin' Yogi to Moneyball.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 15 2012 11:00 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Finally saw this (and after this message I get to read the thread, which I'd also avoided doing till now). Good. More satisfied at the ending than at the beginning, as a baseball fan I was hoping the case they made for Moneyball would be more thoroughly explained but realize the casual moviegoer doesn't want 'inside baseball.' I also wanted to geek at the treatment of the Giambi-Mabry trade, the seamheads back then unanimously panned that deal which was not at all consistent with the philosophies driving the Pena trade, for instance but presaged that big streak they had that year. I liked the overarching themes of Beane's struggle against his own destiny though, that made it for me. Thought Howe was too chubby but he was believeable. I know he irl was upset that he felt they made him a villain. Liked all the Scott Hattieberg scenes. I'll give it 3.5 or 4 baseballs. The John Henry scene where he discusses the fate of teams that fail to embrace the changing ideas hurt a lot considering that was the very same moment we were ditching Valentine for Howe, and still three years from the start of the Omar Era. Discouraging that it took nearly a decade from that moment to begin to look forward, and that was only because their lenders forced them to. One of my worries about the Mets finding financial footing again is that they'll waste no time ousting Alderson afterward, and probably make John Franco the new GM.

metirish Jan 21 2012 09:11 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

Finally had time to myself to watch this tonight, pretty much agree with Vic,Seo and Bucket. I really liked the start with the scouts , the old guy with the hearing aid really set it up for me.All of those guys were great , "ugly girlfriend " was classic, these guys believe in that stuff and it was a great setup for the "moneyball" thinking. The scene when the head scout Grady quit or was fired was brilliant .It might have seemed a bit slow but i liked that it was deliberate in its pacing. I liked all the stuff with his daughter and the fact that as much as he wanted to win he wanted to win in Oakland , not move from her, it seemed real. Regarding Jeremy Brown Peter Brant did say his name when he brought Beane down to the video room , I loved that scene , thought the performances of Pitt and Hill were excellent , Pitt especially with his facial expressions and such really portrayed the agony Beane seems to carry, Overall an excellent movie.

Edgy MD Jan 22 2012 08:18 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

One thing is that a lot of those comments came in the book from the draft discussions --- one of the best parts of the book really. And while they ring true because of the characters they put on the screen saying them, they make less sense coming from a group of scouts discussing professional players --- presumably the semi-veteran players they were tossing around the table as possible replacements for Damon, Giambi, and Isringhausen.

Ceetar Jan 30 2012 07:30 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

The John Henry scene where he discusses the fate of teams that fail to embrace the changing ideas hurt a lot considering that was the very same moment we were ditching Valentine for Howe, and still three years from the start of the Omar Era. Discouraging that it took nearly a decade from that moment to begin to look forward, and that was only because their lenders forced them to. One of my worries about the Mets finding financial footing again is that they'll waste no time ousting Alderson afterward, and probably make John Franco the new GM. Well, as we learned Saturday, they did start looking forward with the hiring of Baumer. I loved the movie. Spoiler here, but the only bit I wasn't into was all the attention paid to the 20-game win streak. Plus you did have the the "Last Second Victory Against Improbable Odds" when Hatteburg smacks the dramatic homer in the 20th game. It felt kinda like movie pandering to the lowest common denominator baseball fan and it didn't seem all that relevant to the point of the story. But then the next scene is Pitt saying it doesn't mean shit if you don't win the last game of the series, and it only serves to sell some tickets and hot dogs in the meantime, and he really could've been talking about the team or the movie at that point and I loved it. It was like they put that scene in the movie to try and let you think it was important and then took it back and said, 'No it's not. At all.' This was a big part in the book too. And I think it's also a part many "stat-heads" miss sometimes when they trumpet Moneyball as this transcendent moment in baseball. How invested Beane is emotionally, which was the reason he failed as a player. They talk about it near the end when he's talking about romanticizing baseball. I enjoyed the movie, but I guess slightly disappointed probably from the "Never as good as the book" standpoint. I didn't really like the ending. It made it seem like Beane made the wrong choice. The last two little epilogue points: "The Red Sox won the World Series two years later using Beane's philosophy" and then "Beane is still in Oakland trying to win the last game of the series". Hardly true. Even just the offer to Beane is an example of the difference. money. Just look at Damon, who was used as an example of a player not worth what he was being paid. '' On the other hand it's now 2012 and the A's absolutely suck, traded away roughly everyone and haven't been good since they lost their last 'big three' pitcher. They're headed for a 4th place finish and only because the Astros don't show up until next year. I couldn't watch the movie and not wonder how Beane is handling it these days.

TransMonk May 15 2012 06:56 PM Re: Moneyball (2011)

I finally saw this and was pleasantly surprised. Not a great movie, but a very good movie...much better than I thought it would be.

Vic Sage May 18 2012 08:27 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

i think it suffered from a lack of unicorns.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 27 2014 03:46 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

We watched this again last night and it was better than I remembered. The Scott Hatteberg at home scene is really outstanding. The scene that follows he arrives at a huge house I thought it was going to be Dave Justice's place; instead it's his hot ex-wife and the wealthy geek she's now with who can't pronounce "Giambi." That's money right there!

Edgy MD Nov 27 2014 06:58 AM Re: Moneyball (2011)

I agree that his ex-wife's home and Hattie's home are the best scene's in the movie. Absolutely drunk with subtext.