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Leo Mazzone's secrets... stinkin braves...

attgig Sep 22 2011 08:27 AM

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/ ... s-awesome/ Maybe this is fun, b.s. banter. Maybe there’s truth to it. Maybe everyone did it. Maybe only the Braves did. But former Braves pitching coach Leo Mazzone was on SiriusXM Mad Dog Radio with Evan Cohen and former Mets GM Steve Phillips today, and he seemed t admit that the Braves — or at least John Smoltz — put pine tar on the baseballs. The subject came up on as they were all talking about the topic of cheating and gamesmanship, inspired by how the New York Giants apparently faked some injuries to slow down the St. Louis Rams offense the other day. Mazzone said that kind of stuff is not foreign to baseball and has been going on for many years. But he got pretty specific with an example, and in a way that doesn’t exactly put John Smoltz in the best light: Leo Mazzone: “Well, I don’t see anything wrong with it myself. I watch football a lot, too, and I know that’s been going on for a while to slow a team down, it stops their momentum. In baseball, as you well know, it’s been going on a long time. I know that in my little ball bag I had firm grip and all kinds of goodies to take care of a baseball to get a little more movement on it. (laughs)” Evan Cohen: “So that’s why the Braves kicked the Mets ass for all these years?” Steve Phillips: “Wait a minute! How come our pitchers were pitching with nice bright white shiny baseballs and your guys had pine tar and scuffs all over them?” Mazzone: “Well, you had pine tar, that’s for sure, because when you were in the postseason and it got called, one time Smoltzy had it on his shoes and I said, ‘John, you can’t keep bending over and touching your shoes all the time. Let’s put it someplace else!’ (laughs)” ..... freakin...

Edgy DC Sep 22 2011 08:40 AM Re: Leo Mazzone's secrets... stinkin braves...

I assume those ellipses cuts off his next statement of "OW, stop hitting me!"

Edgy DC Sep 22 2011 08:43 AM Re: Leo Mazzone's secrets... stinkin braves...

I hate 'em each worse than the other by Demeter v. Phoebus Lido Mazzili and Leo Mazzone, One of ‘em’s goofy, the other one’s phony. One of em’s rocking and twisting and twitching, Passing gas and advice on Atlanta Braves pitching; The other one’s passing out samples of Midol To Jeter, that faded matinee idol. Leo Mazzone and Lido Mazzili, One of em’s creepy, the other one’s silly. Melodramatic as old Peter Lorre, Lido’s a poor imitation of Torre While Leo looks like a man with Tourette’s Being chased by the guys with the butterfly nets. Lido in pinstripes, all glaring and stony, Is almost as funny as Leo Mazzone. Both of these cretinous, sinister coaches, Whose lives I would value below that of roaches, Are in the tradition of Rockker and Billy, Goddamned Mazzone and turncoat Mazzili.

metirish Sep 22 2011 08:52 AM Re: Leo Mazzone's secrets... stinkin braves...

Not sure why Mazzone ever left the Braves and I don't think he's done much since. Maybe this gets him some publicity? I remember there were some rumors one off season that the Mets were going to give him a huge contract to come over, something like a quarter of a million a year, pretty sure the Mets got used to up his price with the the Braves or maybe that was the off season he went to the O's.

attgig Sep 22 2011 11:13 AM Re: Leo Mazzone's secrets... stinkin braves...

hey went to the O's because he's like best friends with the o's coach that year (can't remember his name), and always promised him that if his buddy were to coach, he'd go over and be the pitching coach. didn't last long...

metirish Sep 22 2011 11:16 AM Re: Leo Mazzone's secrets... stinkin braves...

attgig wrote: hey went to the O's because he's like best friends with the o's coach that year (can't remember his name), and always promised him that if his buddy were to coach, he'd go over and be the pitching coach. didn't last long... Perloze right?

attgig Sep 22 2011 11:22 AM Re: Leo Mazzone's secrets... stinkin braves...

metirish wrote: attgig wrote: hey went to the O's because he's like best friends with the o's coach that year (can't remember his name), and always promised him that if his buddy were to coach, he'd go over and be the pitching coach. didn't last long... Perloze right? right!

SteveJRogers Sep 22 2011 12:24 PM Re: Leo Mazzone's secrets... stinkin braves...

Some schmuck radio host named Max Kellerman proclaimed the Orioles to be poised to be a force in the AL East because of that signing. He also said Kaz Matsui would do well in his second year in New York because Hideki had a better second year in MLB than his first.

metirish Sep 22 2011 12:25 PM Re: Leo Mazzone's secrets... stinkin braves...

SteveJRogers wrote: Some schmuck radio host named Max Kellerman proclaimed the Orioles to be poised to be a force in the AL East because of that signing. He also said Kaz Matsui would do well in his second year in New York because Hideki had a better second year in MLB than his first. Now there's a guy that Larry Merchant should be the crap out of.