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John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 19 2011 01:06 PM

Anyone followed this Mayweather-Ortiz clusterscrew? Ortiz headbutts Mayweathwer, gets docked a point, then offers to hug Mayweather in apology. Moments afterward Ortiz's just standing there defenseless as Mayweather goes left-right-LIGHTS OUT. Weirdess continues afterward when Mayweather in an interview with 80-year-old boxing scribe Larry Merchant (who alleges he cheap-shotted Ortiz) tells Merchant he "doesn't know shit about boxing" and Merchant replies, "if I were 50 years younger I'd kick your ass!" HBO is confiscating all the copies of the match on youtube, but afaic, you don't try and hug your way to forgiveness in boxing, you protect yourself at all times [youtube:2r6d3g30]Koyyai6aIQE[/youtube:2r6d3g30]

metirish Sep 19 2011 01:13 PM Re: Prizefighting

They were charging $65 for this fight, no way.....anyway, as much as I dislike Mayweather did he really do anything wrong?, Ortiz should have known better.Merchant is a bit passed it too, injecting himself in there like an old fool. Boxing eh?, gone to shit it has.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2011 01:28 PM Re: Prizefighting

Unfortunately for boxing - and maybe fortunately for sports as a whole - it takes a weird storyline like this to even get boxing into the news these days. It's a virtually dead sport otherwise.

metirish Sep 19 2011 01:54 PM Re: Prizefighting

Frayed Knot wrote: Unfortunately for boxing - and maybe fortunately for sports as a whole - it takes a weird storyline like this to even get boxing into the news these days. It's a virtually dead sport otherwise. very true, there is not one boxer or boxing matchup I would pay $65 for.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2011 02:01 PM Re: Prizefighting

I might top out at about 65 cents.

Edgy DC Sep 19 2011 02:04 PM Re: Prizefighting

Unfortunately, it's being displaced by the more brutal UFC mania.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 19 2011 10:16 PM Re: Prizefighting

You'd be silly not to pay $65 for Mayweather-Pacquiao, should it ever happen. Fair game on the 1-2, by the way... the ref fouled up in a major way by not separating the fighters before the restart. From the Mike Brown School of Crisis Management

metirish Sep 20 2011 06:21 AM Re: Prizefighting

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: You'd be silly not to pay $65 for Mayweather-Pacquiao, should it ever happen. Fair game on the 1-2, by the way... the ref fouled up in a major way by not separating the fighters before the restart. From the Mike Brown School of Crisis Management Maybe two years ago I pay for that fight but now I don't think so.

Frayed Knot Sep 20 2011 06:41 AM Re: Prizefighting

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: You'd be silly not to pay $65 for Mayweather-Pacquiao, should it ever happen. Not a dime - especially considering the fact that by the time it ever does happen (assuming it does) it'll be several years after when it should have gone down. The powers that be in that sport can be as corrupt as they want, they just shouldn't expect me to pay them for the privilege.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 20 2011 07:03 AM Re: Prizefighting

No interest whatsoever. I've never heard of either of these guys.l I recently watched some of the Rocky movies with my kids, and I had to explain to them that there was a time when boxing really mattered to people, and being the heavyweight champion of the world was a huge deal. That made me realize that I had no idea at all who the current heavyweight champ was, so I looked it up. It seems like, for years now, it's been one Eastern European guy after another. Was it the switch to pay-per-view that killed boxing, I wonder? When I was a kid and Mohammed Ali would have a title fight on ABC, it was must-see viewing. Having the fights on free TV may have earned less money, but it enhanced interest. That, I suppose carried over to the early days of pay-per-view, but now, who would pay $65 (or whatever) to see their first fight?

Frayed Knot Sep 20 2011 07:16 AM Re: Prizefighting Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 20 2011 07:30 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Was it the switch to pay-per-view that killed boxing, I wonder? It was on the road to diminishing over time anyway but, yeah, the concept of taking the biggest fights - increasingly the only ones people cared about - and putting them on a pay-per basis helped it along the way to irrelevancy. I remember hearing a caller to WFAN complaining about how bad a fight it was when Tyson first made his post-prison comeback (I know, Shocking!, right?), a pure set-up against some Rocky-esque club-fighter nobody (McNeely, or something like that?). Anyway, the guy is ranting about how he just got ripped-off via the PPV and adds; "... and then they're gonna make us pay $35 bucks for the next time he fights!!". And I'm thinking, 'Dude, as long as suckers like you continue to pay they're going to continue to charge'. Sadly for him, that concept seemed to totally evade his brain.

metirish Sep 20 2011 07:28 AM Re: Prizefighting

You mean "Hurricane" McNeeley, I remember this clown well, Boston's own fighting Irishman. The local Irish rags were in to him heavy, never stood a chance against Tyson but wrangled a few years of celeb out of it. http://www.hurricanepetermcneeley.com/

Edgy DC Sep 20 2011 07:41 AM Re: Prizefighting

Benjamin Grimm wrote: That made me realize that I had no idea at all who the current heavyweight champ was, so I looked it up. It seems like, for years now, it's been one Eastern European guy after another. With fights being sanctioned by the WBA, the IBF, the WBC, the WBO, the BBC, BB King, and Doris Day, how does anybody know who the champioon is? There are belts all over the place.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 20 2011 07:42 AM Re: Prizefighting

I imagine you would just ask Doris Day.

Frayed Knot Sep 20 2011 08:16 AM Re: Prizefighting Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 20 2011 10:06 AM

That - the multiple and confusing alphabet soup of "sanctioning bodies" - is part of their problem. There used to be 8 boxing champs: 8 weight classes with one champ in each. But by sub-dividing each class ([u:ymi59fvp]Junior[/u:ymi59fvp] middleweights, [u:ymi59fvp]Super[/u:ymi59fvp] Bantamweights, etc.) and having competing corrupt orgs each having their own guy, the numbers of "champions" ballooned to about 3 dozen or so - all of which was done so as to claim more fights were for a title. Once again, greed help to kill their (somewhat) golden goose. Not that it was great for fighters when it was a tightly controlled (and crooked) business which could dictate to fighters when and wherre (and IF) they would fight. Part of the appeal to those who like this mixed martial arts stuff is because most of it is controlled by one boss with no ambiguity involved. Suxx for the fighters if they aren't one of the chosen ones, but the fans like it in the way that many still pine for the days before FA-gency.

Centerfield Sep 20 2011 09:37 AM Re: Prizefighting

Edgy DC wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: That made me realize that I had no idea at all who the current heavyweight champ was, so I looked it up. It seems like, for years now, it's been one Eastern European guy after another. With fights being sanctioned by the WBA, the IBF, the WBC, the WBO, the BBC, BB King, and Doris Day, how does anybody know who the champioon is? There are belts all over the place. I just Googled it. Apparently there is a super champion as well as a plain old regular champion. We live in weird times.