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Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sweaty)

A Boy Named Seo Sep 25 2011 12:56 PM

sharpie wrote: Yes, Nick Lowe wrote it. Try to find it online somewhere, great version. Found it and dug it. That's a great idea for a playlist, btw. Original versions of songs made more famous by someone else's cover.

Gwreck Sep 25 2011 04:15 PM Re: Live and Sweaty, 2011

Respect All Along the Watchtower Proud Mary I Heard It Through the Grapevine

Edgy DC Sep 25 2011 04:30 PM Re: Live and Sweaty, 2011

Eighties/early nineties edition: "I Will Always Love You" "That's What Friends Are For" "I'm Free" "Some Guys Have All the Luck" "Jersey Girl"

A Boy Named Seo Sep 25 2011 04:36 PM Re: Live and Sweaty, 2011

I started a playlist at Rdio and so far had these to go with 'Peace, Love, & Understanding' & 'I Will Always Love U': Molly's Lips - The Vaselines (Nirvana) Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime - The Korgis (Beck) Pancho & Lefty - Townes Van Zandt (Willie & Merle) Hallelujah - Leonard Cohen (Jeff Buckley) Last Kiss - Wayne Cochran (Pearl Jam) Even though Dylan's was successful, too, I'm think 'Mr. Tambourine Man' (Byrds) is legit.

sharpie Sep 25 2011 06:39 PM Re: Live and Sweaty, 2011

Twist and Shout (Beatles/Isley Bros) Tainted Love (Soft Cell/Gloria Jones) I disagree about Proud Mary and I Heard It Through the Grapevine. Ike & Tina and CCR didn't subsume the CCR and Marvin Gaye/Tami Terrell versions like the other songs cited. Also, Mr. Tambourine Man is a bit of a stretch though not All Along the Watchtower.

Gwreck Sep 25 2011 06:56 PM Re: Live and Sweaty, 2011

I was counting I Heard It Through The Grapevine for the Gaye version. I believe Smokey did it originally. I guess you can prefer the CCR version of Proud Mary but for me it wasn't ever close. (Whereas I would disagree about Twist and Shout in that while the Beatles' version is good I wouldn't agree that it was definitive).

Edgy DC Sep 25 2011 07:02 PM Re: Live and Sweaty, 2011

I believe sharpie hit it on the head with the invocation of subsumption. Was the original subsumed? Once the Brady Bunch did "American Pie," that was it for the original, apparently written by some forgotten dude name Dan McLayne or something.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 25 2011 08:40 PM Re: Live and Sweaty, 2011

Time is on My Side (Irma Thomas/Stones) Blinded by the Light (Springsteen/Manfred Mann's Earth Band) I Think We're Alone Now (Tiffany/Tommy James)

seawolf17 Sep 25 2011 08:43 PM Re: Live and Sweaty, 2011

I only found out that "Blinded By The Light" was a Springsteen song the other day.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2011 09:19 PM Re: Live and Sweaty, 2011 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 26 2011 06:13 AM

Leaving on a Jet Plane - Peter, Paul & Mary (Henry Deutschendorf Jr.)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 25 2011 10:12 PM Re: Live and Sweaty, 2011

"Nothing Compares 2 U" (Sinead O'Connor/Prince) "Always Something There To Remind Me" (Naked Eyes/Lou Johnson, Bacharach & David) "For Once In My Life" (Stevie/Jean Dushon) "Hurt" (Johnny Cash/Trent Reznor) "Black Magic Woman" (Santana/Fleetwood Mac) "Blue Suede Shoes" (Elvis/Carl Perkins) "Cum On Feel The Noize" (Quiet Riot/Slade) "I Shot The Sheriff" (Clapton/Marley) "Me And Bobby McGee" (Joplin/Kristofferson)

Edgy DC Sep 26 2011 05:14 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

Songs not quite subsumed, by my reckoning. Hallelujah (There's a definitive version of this?) I Think We're Alone Now Leaving on a Jet Plane "Nothing Compares 2 U" (was Prince's version even released before Sinead's? If so, yeah.) "Blue Suede Shoes" (Elvis/Carl Perkins) "I Shot The Sheriff" (Clapton/Marley)

batmagadanleadoff Sep 26 2011 06:54 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

Piece of My Heart (Erma Franklin/Big Brother & The Holding Company) Hey Joe (The Leaves/The Jimi Hendrix Experience) Louie Louie (Richard Berry/The Kingsmen) Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You (Joan Baez/Led Zeppelin) The House of the Rising Sun (original unknown -- Bob Dylan, 1962/The Animals*) * Dylan stopped performing House, which was a regular on his set-list until the Animals released their own version.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2011 07:21 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

"Queen of Hearts": #11 hit by Dave Edmunds in the UK, but buried stateside, and later taken to #2 by Juice Newton (original name: Jugita Villanueva) in the US.

Chad Ochoseis Sep 26 2011 07:38 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

"I Shot The Sheriff" (Clapton/Marley) This is an odd one, because I think Clapton subsumed Marley in the seventies before Marley re-subsumed Clapton in the eighties.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2011 07:56 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

Agreed. I swear it was in self-defense.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 26 2011 10:09 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

Edgy DC wrote: Songs not quite subsumed, by my reckoning. Hallelujah (There's a definitive version of this?) The John Cale version got play in Shrek. The Jeff Buckley version charted a few years ago after his death across Europe and Asia, and has been used in literally dozens of TV shows and movies. Leaving on a Jet Plane Totally unscientific polling of 4 older family members/family friends shows a unanimous PPM leaning. "Nothing Compares 2 U" (was Prince's version even released before Sinead's? If so, yeah.) I think so. (Not as "Prince," but in a side project.) "Blue Suede Shoes" (Elvis/Carl Perkins) Do your own unscientific poll on this one, if you'd like. Among music fans, it's a Carl Perkins song, a Sun legend covered by Elvis. Among the general populace, it's That Elvis Song.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2011 10:17 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

I just think of a song that fits the category being one in which the prior version has totally disappeared from radio playlists (particularly computer-programmed ones). That certainly wouldn't be true of the John Denver track. I'll toss out "Every Time You Go Away," in which Paul Young's 1985 cover eclipsed and destroyed Hall & Oates non-single album track from 1980, and retained it's universal pre-eminance despite H&O trying to reclaim it by including it on a a live album the next year.

Willets Point Sep 26 2011 10:18 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

"Always on My Mind" My dad was a Willie Nelson fan so I always considered this a Willie Nelson song and snarkily smacked down a fellow high school student when he claimed it was a Pet Shop Boys original. Later I found out that Elvis Presley recorded it prior to Willie or the Boys. Just now on Wikipedia I learned it was first recorded by Brenda Lee.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 26 2011 10:56 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

I always thought Willie wrote that til just now. His and Elvis' were both wildly popular. I don't know I've ever heard the Brenda Lee version or know if there is a version by the guys who wrote it. I guess both eclipsed the original, then. I give the nod to Willie over Elvis, though. Sorry, King.

Frayed Knot Sep 26 2011 11:21 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

Edgy DC wrote: Songs not quite subsumed, by my reckoning. ... Leaving on a Jet Plane So you're arguing that John Denver had the earlier/better hit with it? Or that even 10% of people even know he cut the song much less wrote it?

Edgy DC Sep 26 2011 11:52 AM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

No, but they know now. And enjoy his version now. And it gets plenty of the share of the song's play now. As such, it is more comparable to "Blowin' in the Wind" than "Lemon Tree."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 26 2011 12:41 PM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

"The Twist" (Checker/Hank Ballard) "Turn Turn Turn" (Byrds/Pete Seeger) "Killing Me Softly" (Flack/Lori Lieberman)

seawolf17 Sep 26 2011 12:44 PM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "The Twist" (Checker/Hank Ballard) Or, more notably, the Fat Boys.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 26 2011 12:51 PM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

seawolf17 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "The Twist" (Checker/Hank Ballard) Or, more notably, the Fat Boys. This is the version that led me to become a professional beat-boxer.

metirish Sep 26 2011 12:54 PM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

Willets Point wrote: "Always on My Mind" My dad was a Willie Nelson fan so I always considered this a Willie Nelson song and snarkily smacked down a fellow high school student when he claimed it was a Pet Shop Boys original. Later I found out that Elvis Presley recorded it prior to Willie or the Boys. Just now on Wikipedia I learned it was first recorded by Brenda Lee. love the Pet Shop Boys version. Rosalie - Thin Lizzy/ Bob Segar

sharpie Sep 26 2011 02:12 PM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

Woodstock (CSNY/Joni Mitchell)

Chad Ochoseis Sep 26 2011 03:51 PM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

Quinn the Eskimo (Mighty Quinn) - Dylan/Manfred Mann - also fits into the parenthetical thread. And if there were a poll for "Least Dylanesque Dylan Song", it would probably get my vote. And, speaking of Dylan - My Back Pages and Tambourine Man, both subsumed by the Byrds, who also subsumed the Book of Ecclesiastes with Turn, Turn, Turn.

sharpie Sep 26 2011 04:15 PM Re: Songs Subsumed by Second Singers (split from Live and Sw

Dylan wrote "The Mighty Quinn" to be covered. His version was more of a demo for other artists to consider.