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Starting Pitching 2006

Edgy DC Nov 11 2005 01:25 PM

The Mets starting pitching looks deep and all, but you know you're going to hear about transactions. Shed two and add one and such. Current rotation: Benson Glavine Martinez Seo Trachsel Relievers ready to start: Heilman Ishii Zambrano Men on the verge: Bannister Keppel Petit Soler Wait. Have they disposed of Ishiii yet? Anyhow, Javier Vazquez, late last night, demanded a trade to an eastern time zone team, so we're bound to here speculation about him soon.

Diamond Dad Nov 11 2005 01:32 PM Take 5

I'll be happy to have Heilman in the pen to start the season. Can always use him as starter if you get squeezed. No way we can dump Glavine, so we're stuck with him: Glavine Martinez Benson After that -- I'd be happy with Petit coming in as super rookie and any one of the other 4 as starters. Tracks is most consistent. Seo may have best upside. Trade the rest!

Rotblatt Nov 11 2005 01:39 PM

Way to be impartial and alphabetize! I'm against trading for starting pitching in the current climate. I think it'd be too expensive in prospects. However, I'm all for trading a few our of guys at exorbinant prices, then signing a free agent pitcher. We've got money, so I don't mind overpaying in dollar for free agents. Overpaying in years, I mind, but I don't think a five-year deal to Burnett (taking him through age 33) or a four-year to Millwood (through 34) would be so bad.

TheOldMole Nov 11 2005 01:43 PM

Still would like to see Heilman get a shot as closer.

Valadius Nov 11 2005 01:58 PM

Here's my prediction: Somebody gets traded. Here's who I see as an absolute LOCK to be a Met at the start of the season: Pedro Martinez Tom Glavine Aaron Heilman That's it. I really REALLY doubt Heilman gets traded. Zambrano is probably out, and Ishii if someone will take him. Omar might look to deal Seo now, but GODDAMMIT OMAR, don't do it!

Nymr83 Nov 11 2005 02:01 PM

]Benson what makes him a lock? he's no better than Traschel.

Rotblatt Nov 11 2005 02:07 PM

Honestly, I think our only locks are Petey & Glavine. I really, really think we should keep Heilman & Seo, although I suppose if the right trade came along, I'd consider it. We probably won't pick up Ishii's option, and I wouldn't be surprised to see us trade one or two of Trachsel, Benson & Zambrano.

seawolf17 Nov 11 2005 02:13 PM

Pedro's a lock... nobody else is. I'd figure that f anything, Benson's more likely to be here -- he just finished the first year of a long-term deal -- than Glavine, who is done after this year. I could see Glavine going to some team to help offset a bigger contract coming this way.

heep Nov 11 2005 02:33 PM

I also think Tommy and Pedro are the only locks. I see the Mets inquiring about Zito, Burnett and Vazquez. My prediction, with the surplus of pitching we have is that 2 or more will be moved by the spring. Doesn't Billy Beane like Cameron? Why not trade Cameron and Seo to Oakland for Zito? I'm inclined to think that Omar is not satisfied with the quality of our rotation, and trading quantity for quality, if possible is a smart move. A rotation of Tommy, Pedro, Benson, Zito/Burnett and a wild card rookie fifth like Bannister is more appealing to me. I do not enjoy hearing rumors that Heilman is on the block. I think he will develop into a very intelligent and effective starter or set-up man. It is to difficult to predict what is going to happen this off-season - everything outside of the closer quest is contingent upon other deals and positions being fulfilled. I am excited at the thought of Wagner closing games for us. The Mets hopefully have proffered their contract terms to Wagner before I submit this, and I must say I am very anxious to see what they are.

Nymr83 Nov 11 2005 04:53 PM

with all the depth we have theres no reason to slot a guy like Banister in even after a trade... i wouldn't want to trade Seo but if we have to i guess its worth it getting Zito...maybe they would take Bannister and Cameron? if i had to rank our "tradeable" (young, cheap, and at least potentially good) players from best to worst (best being i dont want to lose them, worst being i dont care) i'd go: Milledge, Diaz, Seo, Petit, Heilman, Bannister, Zambrano Diaz, although i ranked him high, can go easily if we get an outfielder back. i'd hate to deal Milledge for any of the names i've heard so far (although you just can't turn down manny i think.) in trading the pitchers i could care less about zambrano and bannister, if you can get something good for them do it. i'd marginally rather deal Petit than Seo because i think Seo is going to be a better option for right now and i have a certain innate distrust of pitching prospects. i'd deal heilman if the trade is right because his value will likely never be higher, but i wouldnt trade him just because of that.