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New York Mets season recap, Korean comedy style

OlerudOwned
Nov 17 2005 02:40 PM

One of the members of [url=http://forums.theganggreen.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=33714835]the TGG[/url] posted this there. I really can't describe it.

=ShadeTree#55]


Also, to quote another member:
=asbcheeks]Ok so she's proficient in Korean, but not so much in baseball jargon, so she couldn't figure out much, but in the Seo cartoon Seo says, "Get some strength, you can get out of this!" and Heilman replies, "I'm going to get out!"

In the Wright cartoon, Piazza says, "Haha, I am just as goodlooking and have as much batting power as him!" and Cameron replies, "Goodlooking?"

I guess this a crack at Piazza's sexual preference?


Cool, I think.

Johnny Dickshot
Nov 17 2005 02:45 PM

These cartoons are great. I'd like to buy some to frame & hang.

Willets Point
Nov 17 2005 02:47 PM

What's going on in that Jae Seo picture with Seo and Heilman being crushed under a pile of Mets and Pedro sleeping on top of the pile?

Willets Point
Nov 17 2005 02:51 PM

There are pages of these delightfully odd comics.

OlerudOwned
Nov 17 2005 02:52 PM

Willets Point wrote:
What's going on in that Jae Seo picture with Seo and Heilman being crushed under a pile of Mets and Pedro sleeping on top of the pile?
I think its about how Seo and Heilman had trouble breaking into the rotation because of the pictured: Pedro, Glavine, Benson (I'm assuming that's who the unmarked bottom belongs to), Trachsel, Ishii, and Zambrano.

Johnny Dickshot
Nov 17 2005 02:52 PM

I would guess it's getting to the idea that Seo & Heilman struggled while stuck beneath other candidates in the rotation.

I'm more intrerested in why Beltran is fat and mad at Reyes.

OlerudOwned
Nov 17 2005 02:53 PM

Willets Point wrote:
There are pages of these delightfully odd comics.
I love how Looper is shown crying to what appears to be his mother in a comic about the Angels bullpen.

Elster88
Nov 17 2005 03:00 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
I'm more intrerested in why Beltran is fat and mad at Reyes.


I think he's just way behind in a foot race or something, because Reyes had so many steals and Beltran had so few maybe? And he's crying because he had a crappy year?

ScarletKnight41
Nov 17 2005 03:06 PM



This is just bizarre.

Edgy DC
Nov 17 2005 03:16 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 17 2005 04:30 PM

There seem to be a lot of bloody noses in these things.

Who's the bashful Twin on the toilet?

Elster88
Nov 17 2005 03:17 PM

Um, is that little purple monster doing what I think it's doing?

Edgy DC
Nov 17 2005 03:25 PM

How did the sea lion get into Centerfield's tennis fantasy?

Johnny Dickshot
Nov 17 2005 03:26 PM



The Artist.

Here's an article from the Korea Times. I like how he admires baseball for its combination of rules and imagination.

Cartoonist Delivers Big Hit With Baseball Series


By Kim Hyun-cheol
Staff Reporter

Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Kazuhisa Ishii tries to memorize the names of his teammates' but gets frustrated trying to pronounce names like Cesar Izturis and Juan Encarnacion as an English-shy Japanese.

Two things that bothered Florida Marlins first baseman Choi Hee-seop for a while were why Juan Pierre wears a hat under his helmet and why Alex Gonzalez shaves his beard in a thin line along his cheek.

Not done yet, how about this? It is because of a mixed martial art battle for the remote control of the clubhouse television that so many Anaheim Angels players are on the disabled list this season.

If these sound unreal, well, you're right _ you never would read any news like this anywhere because they are all story lines from a cartoon series. But who cares, as long as they make tens of thousands of die-hard Major League Baseball (MLB) fans online happy every week.

Cartoonist Choi Hoon posts his 'MLB Cartoon' series on the Korean Web portal site Naver about twice a week and every piece easily draws more than 100,000 clicks within a week.

He's easily one of the most popular cartoonists around theses days but he says he never expected such an enthusiastic response when he started the series.

``(I'm surprised) since most baseball fans here focus on the domestic league, and most contents of the series are somewhat for advanced MLB fans, who have a better-than-average knowledge on it,'' he said. ``I feel lucky with the MLB Cartoon. I can do whatever I want and unleash it online and many people support me for that.''

The 32-year-old studied drawing comics in Japan for several years from 1998. After returning to South Korea, he started to publish 'Hadaeri (Manager Ha)' in the Daily Sports in July 2002. This drama centered around a group of office workers is still being published and most comics fans still recognize Choi as its author.

So then, how did he get to his start with the MLB series?

``I love baseball,'' he said, and left it at that.

Since first encountering MLB in the late 80's on the American Forces Korean Network (AFKN) TV channel, his love for the sport grew bit by bit and now he's a loyal baseball fan.

``I used to be an Oakland Athletics fan back then, when big names like Jose Canseco, Ricky Henderson and Mark McGwire were playing, though I had to look up a dictionary since I didn't know what 'athletics' meant,'' Choi explained. ``Now my favorites are the Minnesota Twins in the MLB and the LG Twins in the Korea Baseball Organization.

``I've always wanted to take a chance and publish a baseball cartoon but couldn't find any place. Then I got this opportunity.''

Originally starting off small on an MLB fan site, the series unexpectedly became popular and that encouraged him. Choi then sent work samples to Naver and now he's at the center of a lot of attention.

One of the reasons people like his work is his deliberate description. He depicts the characteristics of famous players with amazingly accurate detail, from their habits at the plate or on the mound to even the angles of the pitchers' arms and stances of the hitters' feet.

``(It takes) more than three hours and with more figures appearing, it can take a whole day just to gather all the information needed for an episode,'' Choi said. ``These days I seriously lack time but I can't care any less, since readers have keen and sharp eyes so they never miss a single mistake coming from not preparing properly.''

So far he's posted over 20 episodes and confesses he had a special feeling while drawing one in particular. It is also one of the most controversial ones, getting more than 400 comments on the page. In the piece about one pitcher, he says, ``As Koreans, at least, I feel we all have a kind of debt to support and trust him to the end, whatever results he makes.''

``Unlike other cartoons, I put my genuine feelings in the Park Chan-ho episode,'' Choi said. Usually he tries to keep his emotions out of his works and focuses strictly on making them witty and comfortable to read. But not in this case.

``When I was having a tough time in Japan studying, watching Park pitch on TV really encouraged me and gave me strength,'' he said. ``I regret that he's not welcomed by his homeland fans these days like he used to be, just because he's in a slump.

``I can't really understand those who post insults and various attacks on the Internet about him,'' Choi continued. ``They say it's just fair criticism but to me it's just being a menace. In the end it's just distorted affection and attention."

Choi says that he was originally drawn to the sport because of its complexities.

``Baseball is the best sport of all,'' he said. ``It has the most organized and systematic rules, and its diverse tactics offer spectators ample room to think and imagine. Another attraction is that all the positions have particular characters and roles.''

Choi hopes to expand his coverage to the NBA as well as domestic pro sports leagues but baseball remains his No. 1. A baseball game broken up into innings, just like the squares on a page of comic strips. As a lover of sports and a comic artist, it may naturally follow that he inevitably loves baseball.

Elster88
Nov 17 2005 03:30 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 17 2005 03:35 PM

One of the Williams sisters has a mean goatee. I wish I could grow facial hair like that.
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Elster88
Nov 17 2005 03:34 PM

I don't suppose there's a way to get that naver.com page in English?

Or at least Mandarin, I can't read Korean.

Centerfield
Nov 17 2005 04:26 PM

The sea lion is a recurring theme for me.



Crap. There's another one.

Edgy DC
Nov 17 2005 04:32 PM

I'm thinking that the little purple monster is either an alien rapist or a personification of Brett's hemmoroids.

Edgy DC
Nov 17 2005 04:33 PM

That guy's actually a little stocky and frumpy for Centerfield.

Valadius
Nov 17 2005 04:54 PM

This is the funniest thing I've seen all day!!!

Centerfield
Nov 18 2005 09:54 AM
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I forwarded the strip to my wife and got a few translations (keep in mind, her Korean is not great either so these might be all wrong):

Pedro

Pedro: Pedro 45 reporting for duty

Peterson (looking at Ishii): I told you not to fall asleep when you drive!


Jae Seo

Jae: Keep trying! We can get out!

Heilman: I'm getting out!


David Wright

Wright: Crack!

Piazza: You know, I was once that good and that good looking too

Cameron: Good looking?


Cliff Floyd

Floyd: I'm healthy (literal translation: I don't hurt)

caption: His health is the best!


Carlos Beltran

Beltran: (huff) I...I can't catch him because my belly's too big


Looper

We couldn't figure this out. But it's something about being the worst player (duh) and something to do with hell.

Elster88
Nov 18 2005 10:02 AM

Centerfield wrote:
(who's 49?)


I think it's 44.

Centerfield
Nov 18 2005 10:03 AM

Oh, I see.

Thanks Elster. I'll Edit.

OlerudOwned
Nov 18 2005 07:59 PM


I found one about Trachsel's return to the rotation.

seawolf17
Nov 19 2005 04:17 AM

Oh, I get it! Trachsel comes back to the rotation, but there's no room for him because everyone's pitching so well, so he gets all mad and turns into some sort of female bird superhero. Remind me next Halloween; Steve Trachsel, Female Bird Superhero would make a great costume.

Edgy DC
Nov 19 2005 06:02 AM

And he's blond.

And Pedro's hair is flat on top and then breaks out into sausage curls.

And Glavine and Seo are dating.

Very odd.

Valadius
Nov 19 2005 01:54 PM

No, it looks like Glavine is backing Seo over Trachsel.

Edgy DC
Nov 19 2005 06:53 PM
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Holy crap, I just figured out the reference of this cartoon!

The other members of the rotation let him know that they don't need him, as they only need five members, like G-Force, the heroic crew of the Phoenix in the revolutionary late-1970s cartoon, Battle of the Planets, which in the United States version featured the voice of Casey Kasem as team-leader Mark.



To illustrate their point, they don their G-Force costumes and zoom away. After they leave, Trax puts on his costume and cries that he used to be Princess (above, right, in her civies) and wants to be again.

Here are G-Force in uniform.

Valadius
Nov 19 2005 06:55 PM

Yes, I knew it was G-Force. Just forgot the name.

OlerudOwned
Nov 19 2005 06:55 PM

More frightening:

A. The cartoon

or B. Edgy unlocking it's secret?

Edgy DC
Nov 19 2005 07:34 PM

See how the G-Force members, like a pitching rotation, each have a number designating their place in the pentatonic order:



That's Mark (1), Keyob (an unseen 4), the ironically named Tiny (5), Jason (2), and Princess (3).

seawolf17
Nov 21 2005 04:03 AM

Were they like Voltron? Or was Voltron a ripoff of that?

Centerfield
Nov 21 2005 09:00 AM

G-Force was first...and it kicked the ever-living-shit out of Voltron. G-Force was awesome...their ship could turn into a fiery phoenix. It beats those stupid lions any day.

A couple of things really annoyed me about Voltron:

1. Why did they always attack separately before forming Voltron? If Keith were a decent leader, he should have come up with a better game plan:


"You know guys, I've been thinking...instead of attacking as lions and getting our asses kicked, why don't we meet up, form Voltron, make the sword, and then attack the Robeast."

2. Did Keith have to really narrate the formation of Voltron each time? How many times could those guys have heard it before they get sick of listening to that?


"We got it Keith...and you'll form the head...we know, we know."

3. Sven. Not only did he lose his seat to the Princess (I'm not sure this was ever adequately explained). But at some point, he gets captured and sent to some slave colony. The part that pisses me off...THEY NEVER TRIED TO RESCUE HIM. It was mind-boggling. In one episode, they actually went there to fight a Robeast, saw him, and left him there inexplicably. I mean, how loyal is this Voltron team if they decline to rescue their old buddy from a prison planet even when they happen to be there. How much more effort would it have taken? One more swipe of the Blazing Sword? If I'm Sven, the minute the happens, I'm at Prince Lotor's castle telling him where the lions are hidden.

(Incidentally, Sven would have been the much better illustration of what happened to Trachsel)

Elster88
Nov 21 2005 09:08 AM

Can we get a translation of the new Met toon? Are there English translations in cyberland?

Edgy DC
Nov 21 2005 09:08 AM
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Battle of the Planets preceded G-Force. According to Battle of the Planets Universe, the granddaddy of them all was Science Ninja Team Gatchaman.

Alrighty.

]Battle of the Planets was a translation of a series that ran in Japan in the 1970's called Science Ninja Team Gatchaman, which ran for a grand total of 205 episodes. The original series was revolutionary in it's day, starting a whole new genre for 'team' shows. Battle of the Planet was created using 85 episodes of the first Gatchaman series, which ran for 105 episodes. Animation of 7-Zark-7, the Ready-Room, and several space and planet shots were added to BotP by an American animation studio.


You'll note how their visors each represents the bill a different kind of bird --- very Japanese that, attaining superpowers by merging with an animal spirit. But while the more mature males on the team get the bills of birds of prey, Princess and Keyob get more unwieldy duck-like bills.

seawolf17
Nov 21 2005 09:15 AM

According to the Voltron Wikipedia entry:

]Sven Holgersson (Japanese Name : Takashi Shirogane)- Sven was the second in command who piloted the Blue Lion and wore a black uniform in the very beginning of the series. In episode 6, he was badly injured during an attack by Haggar and was sent away to be healed. Allura replaced him as the Blue Lion's pilot. His age is about the same as Keith's. Sven now resides on the Planet Pollux with Princess Romelle and Prince Bandor, both cousins of Allura. Sven was always very quiet and spoke only when he had something important to say. Though he may not look it, he is a very emotional person, and his heart is always leading his mind in any decision.


Apparently, it was rehab that he got sent to, not a slave colony. So there you go.

Centerfield
Nov 21 2005 09:34 AM

If I remember correctly, Sven's rehab colony was attacked by Zarkon and Sven was taken to a slave planet. A planet from which, I think, he managed to escape by himself, along with some chick he was seeing at the time.

Details escape me, but never let facts get in the way of a rant.

That's how I roll.

Johnny Dickshot
Nov 21 2005 09:59 AM

Is this show related in some way to "Star Blazers"? I obviously don;t recall the one you're talking about and if I did, not as well as you guys neither.

Valadius
Nov 21 2005 02:06 PM

This thread has been hijacked in hilarious fashion.

Zvon
Nov 21 2005 04:59 PM

absolutely love these cartoon strips.

We should create an exclusive Cranepool Forum/Mets comic strip.
Everybody can write em. Ill draw em.

KC
Nov 21 2005 05:59 PM

¿Como se dice bang pow en Korean?

Edgy DC
Nov 21 2005 07:52 PM

]We should create an exclusive Cranepool Forum/Mets comic strip.


Not a bad idea, but I see it decending into porn by like issue three.

Valadius
Nov 21 2005 07:58 PM

Al Goldis as villain, lurking in the shadows?

metirish
Nov 30 2005 09:06 AM

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 30 2005 09:11 AM

Am I the only one who doesn't "get" these?

metirish
Nov 30 2005 09:12 AM

I don't get them either but figured i would post it as I think it's the same guy that's the artist.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 30 2005 09:15 AM

Oh, I love the pictures. I just don't get the jokes.

Elster88
Nov 30 2005 09:17 AM

Still wondering if there is an English translation on the web...

OlerudOwned
Jan 29 2006 04:17 PM

New!
Omar Miniya featured in [url=http://news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=mlb&menu=cartoon&mode=view&seq=191]this one[/url].

seawolf17
Jan 30 2006 06:08 AM

Took me two or three reads, but I got it. These are pretty amusing.

Willets Point
Jan 31 2006 12:19 PM

I don't get it. Omar Minaya (played by Roland Gift of the Fine Young Cannibals) wears an Expos' jersey, weeps, changes to a Mets jersey and plays with dolls. Huh?!?!