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Glavine & Floyd

seawolf17 Nov 18 2005 11:40 AM

Is it crazy to think that there might be some interest in dealing Tom Glavine and/or Cliff Floyd this offseason? Glavine is due $11,000,000 and Floyd a very reasonable $6,500,000 in the final years of their deals. Consider: Floyd: ** He played 150 games for the first time in a season since 2001. I don't want to say he's "due for an injury," but... ** He's coming off the best season -- at the plate and in the field -- he's had since 2001 also. ** He plays the same defensive position as a certain guy whose name starts with M and rhymes with "Fanny Ramirez." ** His best friend on the team was just dealt. I'm sure Cliff has plenty of friends, but perhaps this is a concern of his. Glavine: ** Will be 40 next year. ** Ain't getting any younger. ** Is a Hall-of-Fame pitcher who had a strong second half. ** Still smells like Atlanta. Should Omar shop them? Or does he wait until summer, and if it looks like this whole contraption is collapsing onto itself, do he move them then? I don't know that Glavine is movable, because of his age and the fact that any contract that we'd take back would probably be a monstrosity. If Boston were willing to take him in a Ramirez deal -- I know, it's a pipe dream -- then maybe, but other than that, I don't see a fit anywhere. Just throwing the thought out there.

Yancy Street Gang Nov 18 2005 11:52 AM

Glavine, with his age and salary, is probably more easily dealt during the season than in the winter. In July a team that smells a playoff spot and is short one pitcher would be more likely to take on somebody like him.

Elster88 Nov 18 2005 11:54 AM

Of course we'll be the ones smelling a playoff spot this year. *pumping fist*

Rotblatt Nov 18 2005 11:55 AM

I think we should do what we did last year--improve our short-term outlook without sacrificing our top prospects. If we can find a way of moving Glavine & Floyd without hurting our chances in 2005, I'm all for it, but I'm not sure how we do that. You could make a case for trading either of them for good prospects, then signing free agents to fill their roles--Burnett & Giles, say--since we'd only be losing money, but it sounds too iffy to me. I'd just as soon hang on to them, then be willing to listen to offers for them at around the All-Star Break . . .

Centerfield Nov 18 2005 12:01 PM

I worry about Floyd's health next year as well. But rather than moving him, I'd feel better about having enough firepower in the lineup to be able to withstand him missing some time rather than shipping him out. $6.5 million for that kind of production is something you want to hold on to.

Edgy DC Nov 18 2005 01:59 PM

Let's fire up the Glavine-for-Derek-Lowe talks again. SC=92

Frayed Knot Nov 18 2005 02:32 PM

I think if we were going to trade Glavine & Floyd for prospects we should start by dealing them to the Phils for their promising minor league hurler [url=http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Gavin%20Floyd&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=425856]Gavin Floyd[/url] ... just, y'know, for the symmetry of it all.

TheOldMole Nov 18 2005 02:53 PM

Sort of like the Astros signing Andujar Cedeno?

Valadius Nov 18 2005 05:09 PM

We must not trade Floyd. After losing one member of the most complete outfield I ever saw on this team, I won't lose another.

OlerudOwned Nov 18 2005 07:01 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: I think if we were going to trade Glavine & Floyd for prospects we should start by dealing them to the Phils for their promising minor league hurler [url=http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Gavin%20Floyd&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=425856]Gavin Floyd[/url] ... just, y'know, for the symmetry of it all. I know that video games dont count for jack, but I did that when I first got MVP Baseball. Although, I also traded Zamby for Kazmir.

HappyRecap Nov 19 2005 03:40 AM If it is the last year of Floyd's contract....

then let him play it out. But if he starts to have a solid year, trade him since he is a strained Achilles waiting to happen...or some other minor injury that will take 3-4 weeks to cure. I liked him last season but lets face it, he is soft. When the announcers last season were talking in a congratulatory manner about balls he caughht in the LF corner it was like they were clapping for the special olympics. And he is never going to duplicate last year's offense so it is time to jettison him. Thanks Cliff. HAPPY RECAP

Edgy DC Nov 19 2005 07:58 AM

Never and always are wrords that put you vulnerable places. Are you really advocating keeping a guy, but only if he isn't doing too well?

Nymr83 Nov 19 2005 02:04 PM

i believe it is very unlikely that Floyd puts up numbers like that again. but he is affordable and good when healthy so i'm not in any hurry to jettison him. if theres an offer out there for an outfielder who is as good a hitter but less injury-prone then go ahead and take it, but don't be so quick to try and get rid of him otherwise. as for glavine his age alone suggests he will decline, i wouldn't trade him in the offseason though. if at some point this coming season we can trade him to fill an in-season need, and we believe that Petit is ready and wish to clear a spot, then maybe it becomes time to deal him then.