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Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Frayed Knot Oct 08 2011 04:08 PM

Verlander against Wilson gets going tonight in Texas Leyland's gamble - if you want to call it that - at not being tempted to use Verlander in relief in game 5 of the first round pays off as the presumptive CY winner is tanned, rested and ready. Verlander faced Texas once this season back in April and lost despite giving up just 2 runs on 6 hits over 9 innings (2-0 Rangers) Wilson got a no-decision against the Tigers the very next day, going 6-2/3 while allowing 4 earned runs (Tigers beat Darren O'Day in relief)

Frayed Knot Oct 08 2011 08:37 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Geeez, it didn't rain in the D-FW area for how many months?, until now that they get the ALCS and are already into delay #2 and this may go on for a while.

metirish Oct 09 2011 07:35 AM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Tried to watch some of this but with all the rain it killed it, Rangers won 3-2 , Francona in the booth? where was McCarver?

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2011 09:23 AM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

McCarver was having some sort of "medical procedure" [insert joke here] and should return for Game 3 on Tuesday. Francona was pretty good, even if slightly unpolished, during his maiden voyage. Meanwhile I'm sure there's a bunch of guys who served as analysts for all the FOX backup GotWs wondering; 'how the hell did HE get to the front of the line so quickly?'

Edgy DC Oct 09 2011 12:42 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

It'd be funny if Francona and Valentine end up swapping jobs.

metirish Oct 09 2011 12:55 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

I enjoyed his exchange with Leyland during innings when the manger talks to the booth, after the standard question from Buck it was Francona's turn, " I'm supposed to ask you a question but I idea what to ask and I know how much you hate doing these ( cue smile from Leyland) so I'll let you go back to managing".

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2011 03:33 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

** Not taking any chances with tonight's forecast, Game 2 has been postponed until Monday afternoon. **

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2011 03:37 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

metirish wrote: I enjoyed his exchange with Leyland during innings when the manger talks to the booth, after the standard question from Buck it was Francona's turn, " I'm supposed to ask you a question but I idea what to ask and I know how much you hate doing these ( cue smile from Leyland) so I'll let you go back to managing". I bet most managers hate doing those things and wouldn't if it weren't for, let's just say, strong encouragement from MLB to cooperate with their TV partners (although that hasn't stopped Charlie Manual from always pawning his turn off on his pitching coach).

Edgy DC Oct 09 2011 03:40 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Frayed Knot wrote: ** Not taking any chances with tonight's forecast, Game 2 has been postponed until Monday afternoon. ** Getting it away from football competition on your TV dial..

metirish Oct 09 2011 04:20 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Apologies for the grammer, auto correction on the phone can be a pain.

SteveJRogers Oct 09 2011 04:39 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Edgy DC wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: ** Not taking any chances with tonight's forecast, Game 2 has been postponed until Monday afternoon. ** Getting it away from football competition on your TV dial.. I know you are being Snarky McSnark, but there is a reason why ESPN tends to be 24/7/365 football. The NFL is just THAT damn popular in this country.

Gwreck Oct 09 2011 05:27 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Magglio Ordonez out for the balance of the postseason with an ankle injury. Things I don't understand: why the Tigers would reveal this. He played in game one, so I don't think he can be replaced. So why tell your opponent that you're a man short?

Edgy DC Oct 09 2011 10:44 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

SteveJRogers wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: ** Not taking any chances with tonight's forecast, Game 2 has been postponed until Monday afternoon. ** Getting it away from football competition on your TV dial.. I know you are being Snarky McSnark, but there is a reason why ESPN tends to be 24/7/365 football. The NFL is just THAT damn popular in this country. No, actually, I'm not being anything. I"m just making an observation.

Frayed Knot Oct 10 2011 07:11 AM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Gwreck wrote: Magglio Ordonez out for the balance of the postseason with an ankle injury. Things I don't understand: why the Tigers would reveal this. He played in game one, so I don't think he can be replaced. So why tell your opponent that you're a man short? Apparently he CAN be replaced (I remember MLB loosening the restrictions on player replacement a few years ago) although the rainout bought them some time and they've yet to announce anything. Stack this on top of Delmon Young going down in Game 5 against the Yanx and it means they're out both of the corner OFers and good RH sticks against a team with three LH starters. On the other hand, their defense just got a lot better. I was thinking during the previous round how bad things are when you've got Delmon Young out there and he's NOT the guy you automatically switch out for defense in the late innings.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 10 2011 02:36 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Delmon Young back in, to replace Ordonez. ("Get in there and get 'em, Del... just don't swing too hard.")

HahnSolo Oct 10 2011 02:42 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

But we couldn't replace Cliff Floyd in '06 after game 1. Yeah, I'm still bitter.

Ceetar Oct 10 2011 03:18 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

SteveJRogers wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: ** Not taking any chances with tonight's forecast, Game 2 has been postponed until Monday afternoon. ** Getting it away from football competition on your TV dial.. I know you are being Snarky McSnark, but there is a reason why ESPN tends to be 24/7/365 football. The NFL is just THAT damn popular in this country. false. Hard to prove, but I bet if ESPN devoted an hour to hockey in October, NHL ratings would shoot up. Same for WNBA. And if they spent more time on the baseball playoffs, those ratings would shoot up. Sports are often a very social thing, and if no one's talking about it, there is no hype to watch it. Multi-billion dollar TV deals certain influence ESPN/etc focus too. It's marketing.

Frayed Knot Oct 10 2011 03:29 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

HahnSolo wrote: But we couldn't replace Cliff Floyd in '06 after game 1. Yeah, I'm still bitter. Or El Duque even though those playoffs hadn't technically started yet: rosters were frozen but games had yet to be played. Obviously they altered the rules since that point.

Ceetar Oct 10 2011 06:15 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

bases loaded for the Rangers. Bottom 9. no outs. score tied at 3. and Valverde gets out of it. short fly out to LF, 3-2-3 DP. yikes.

dgwphotography Oct 10 2011 06:30 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

This is one hell of a game...

Frayed Knot Oct 10 2011 06:43 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Sacks loaded, no one out ... take TWO.

bmfc1 Oct 10 2011 06:45 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Did you notice that Ron Washington did not bunt with 1st and 2d, none out, at home, tie game... and his hitter singled.

Gwreck Oct 10 2011 06:47 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Joe Buck: "Rangers going for their fourth straight win in a one-run game." Gwreck: "Not going to be a one-run game if it's a homer, Joe."

smg58 Oct 10 2011 06:49 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

No fair. They let Cruz get all the way around the bases.

bmfc1 Oct 10 2011 06:50 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Thanks to Todd Pratt, Nelson Cruz makes history.

Fman99 Oct 10 2011 07:35 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

What a bunch of bullshit, the whole "first ever postseason walk off grand slam." Just stop it.

Edgy DC Oct 11 2011 08:57 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

I'm getting reports on Facebook that McCarver incorrectly contradicted Joe Buck, insisting on tonight's broadcast that Endy didn't turn his legendary catch into a double-play.

Ceetar Oct 11 2011 09:02 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Fman99 wrote: What a bunch of bullshit, the whole "first ever postseason walk off grand slam." Just stop it. I'm not paying attention. They do at least mention Ventura right? He's even current..

Frayed Knot Oct 11 2011 09:03 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 12 2011 02:10 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I'm getting reports on Facebook that McCarver incorrectly contradicted Joe Buck, insisting on tonight's broadcast that Endy didn't turn his legendary catch into a double-play. Didn't really contradict him as both guys failed to remember that it was a DP. Endy came up, they showed the film, then Buck asked if it was turned into a DP or was he just confusing it with something else. McCarver then said there was no DP. * But McCarver did redeem himself by adding that Endy was ... "a winning player".

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 11 2011 09:06 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

I was listening on the radio. Orel Hershiser said Ron Washington deserves some shit for playing guys like Endy tonight. I wouldn't mind if the Mets hired Dan Schiulman to accompany Howie. PS, this Fister fella's been a revelation.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 11 2011 09:13 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

So, between the bases-loaded DP last game and the last diving stop... Cabrera's, like, pretty decent with the glove when he tries and crap.

Frayed Knot Oct 11 2011 09:17 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: So, between the bases-loaded DP last game and the last diving stop... Cabrera's, like, pretty decent with the glove when he tries and crap. He has. Of course that dive registered on the Richter scale throughout the upper mid-west but it was an important play. And we have a series now.

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2011 02:11 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

[u:b5u163n4]GAME 4[/u:b5u163n4] And we'll start off the game with a rain delay.

themetfairy Oct 12 2011 05:57 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

And it's an official game in Detroit, as the rain continues to fall.

themetfairy Oct 12 2011 06:19 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

And through the raindrops, the Rangers take the lead in the 6th.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 12 2011 06:58 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

themetfairy wrote: And it's an official game in Detroit, as the rain continues to fall. They'll do their damnedest to play full games and full games only, as per house genital organ Torre during the ALDS. Hey! In-GEE!

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2011 07:00 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Except that there's no such thing as an "official game" in the post season as they'll simply play them all to conclusion even if they have to go to the next day. Oh, and Inge just tied it.

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2011 07:11 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Leyland looks like he's going to lean on the Benoit/Velverde combo for the 3rd straight night. That duo has gone 2.0 & 3.0 innings over the last two games.

metirish Oct 12 2011 07:14 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Frayed Knot wrote: Leyland looks like he's going to lean on the Benoit/Velverde combo for the 3rd straight night. That duo has gone 2.0 & 3.0 innings over the last two games. Hold on , shouldn't Leyland hold Valverde back in hopes of getting a lead? Ha, I like it, get the best in there.

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2011 07:19 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Well, we don't KNOW yet that he'll stick him in there, but I'm assuming since he's already gone to Benoit that he won't hesitate to lean on Valverde also. Meanwhile, Texas intentionally walking Cabrera [u:28f8kzy9]with none on and one out in bottom 8th[/u:28f8kzy9] looks like it's going to backfire on Ron Washington as Martinez singles to make it 1st & 3rd. IOW, it'll probably be Valverde time soon!!!

metirish Oct 12 2011 07:21 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Didn't like that walk, gotta trust Adams there.

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2011 07:23 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

(Lack of) speed kills.

metirish Oct 12 2011 07:24 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

WOW, pop fly deep-ish to RF and Cruz guns down Miggi at the plate and it wan't even close..what an arm. Miggi of course is slower than a wet week in Ireland.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 12 2011 08:17 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Still at it in the 11th. Valverde is fun to watch.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 12 2011 08:22 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

¿Como se dice "Country Time?"

smg58 Oct 12 2011 08:25 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Cruz may have just sealed series MVP. Both managers were guilty of misusing the intentional walk, but Leyland paid for it.

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2011 09:17 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

[Yanquifan]Long time, first time .... Hey this Cruz guy for Texas is clutch, do ya think the Rangers will take ARod for him? ... How 'bout if we throw in a coupla prospects and pay some of his salary? ... and we could throw in Andruw Jones too![/Yanquifan]

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2011 02:32 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

[u:2sevaqyw]GAME 5[/u:2sevaqyw]: Tigers pinning their hopes for survival and a return to Detroit on Verlander - although the Rangers have already hit him up for 2 doubles and a run in top 1

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2011 06:36 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

The AL - like the Good Rats - are takin' it to Detroit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 13 2011 08:11 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

When they took the lead in the sixth, the Tiggers did it on a natural team cycle, with a single, double, triple, and home run in sequence. For a guy who had Jack-Morris-on-a-bad-day stuff (he got tagged for a bunch of loud strikes, and could have given up three HRs to Beltre alone), Verlander pitched a man-sized game.

smg58 Oct 13 2011 09:19 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Leyland got away with some questionable managing in the 9th. Coke certainly looked out of gas and was facing lefty-killer Mike Napoli, but Napoli grounded out. Which begs the question: if three straight baserunners and Napoli as the go-ahead run up at bat weren't sufficient to pull the plug on Coke, why were the other guys even warming up? Personally, overworked or not, I think Valverde ought to have come in and gotten the last out. Either he's your best guy, or he isn't. He'll have four months to rest.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 13 2011 10:53 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

What I didn't quite get: if Benoit and Valverde were off the table, and Coke needed relieving, wouldn't that still leave, like, five other bullpen arms for Leyland to use?

Gwreck Oct 13 2011 11:05 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Yabbut, those are apparently the relievers who are behind the "break glass only in emergency." I think Leyland could've used Al Alburquerque if necessary.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2011 06:56 AM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Gwreck wrote: I think Leyland could've used Al Alburquerque if necessary. Providing it can be proven that he really exists first.

Edgy DC Oct 14 2011 07:02 AM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Yeah, c'mon. Who's next? Sam Francisco? Minnie Apolis? Let's stop clowning around and talk about real athletes here. Somebody logged on last week and wanted to talk about "Joe Montana"? What's with all these jokers?

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2011 07:31 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

[u:17or1sug]Game 6[/u:17or1sug] -- If Texas keeps scoring and this 3rd inning never ends (both of which seem entirely possible right now) can Detroit claim that they didn't really lose the series on account of a conclusion was never being reached?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 15 2011 07:50 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

I heard that Derek Holland totally had sex with Stacy Linberg in his van by the water tower right after the Molly Hatchet concert last Thursday, then TOTALLY ditched her when she went to the woods to clean up. What a total bufu.

metsguyinmichigan Oct 15 2011 07:58 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

It is not looking good for the Tigers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 15 2011 08:11 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

It's looking a little better for the Tigers. Or rather, less bad. I like both these teams, really; I really kinda wish that THIS were the World Series.

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2011 08:23 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

2nd game in a row where the mgr has yanked the starter with a lead just one out short of qualifying for a win (LaRussa did it last night w/Garcia when he had a 3-run lead w/2 outs in the 5th). In a way it's kind of refreshing to see.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 15 2011 08:45 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

AAAAAAAnd we're switching to "Conan" on Spike. On, ye Rangers.

metirish Oct 15 2011 08:47 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

I hope they win it all now, I just can't comprehend that the Cardinals could be WS winners ....if they get through their semis that is.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 15 2011 08:52 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

metirish wrote: I hope they win it all now, I just can't comprehend that the Cardinals could be WS winners ....if they get through their semis that is. It's starting to feel weirdly, sickly inevitable, now, though, no?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 15 2011 11:19 PM Re: Rangers vs Tigers -- ALCS IST

Not putting anything past the Cardinals. You know, Scherzer's got crazy stuff, just had some issues with it tonite.