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Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2011 03:22 PM

Jamie Garcia v Zack Greinke in the opener. - Braun's 2R HR in the 1st [KAH-RUSHED] gave the Brews a 2-1 lead - David Freese's (where'd this guy come from?) [u:2fdqo27l]3R[/u:2fdqo27l] shot in the 5th puts the Birds up 4-2

G-Fafif Oct 09 2011 03:26 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

The Brewers make the noise and represent the better overall story, but I'm picking up a Team of Destiny vibe around these Cardinals. Subject to change.

Gwreck Oct 09 2011 05:28 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Brewers put up 9 runs in support of a sub-par Greinke effort.

MFS62 Oct 10 2011 09:51 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Two pearls from Bobby V during tonight's second game blowout. He's doing color on the ESPN Radio broadcast of the series. 1) He and the pbp guy were talking about keeping long rallies going, and said the Brewers hit too many homers, which Bobby called "rally-stoppers". 2) They were talking about the wild card. Bobby noted that when they instituted the wild card in Japan, the wc first round series was also best of five, but the wild card team was penalized by starting the series down by one game. So to win they have to win 3 of the next 4. Put that one in the "I didn't know that" category. Later

Ceetar Oct 10 2011 09:58 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

MFS62 wrote: Two pearls from Bobby V during tonight's second game blowout. He's doing color on the ESPN Radio broadcast of the series. 1) He and the pbp guy were talking about keeping long rallies going, and said the Brewers hit too many homers, which Bobby called "rally-stoppers". 2) They were talking about the wild card. Bobby noted that when they instituted the wild card in Japan, the wc first round series was also best of five, but the wild card team was penalized by starting the series down by one game. So to win they have to win 3 of the next 4. Put that one in the "I didn't know that" category. Later 1. as much as Bobby knows about baseball, it's always annoying when he cites some of that stuff that people accept as true but isn't actually true. 2. It's not a best of five series then. There is no way to play five games.

MFS62 Oct 10 2011 10:03 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Sometimes, your brain has to do a double clutch when you listen to him. Later

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2011 07:06 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

The Cards handed out 'Rally Squirrel' towels to arriving fans. And despite that idiocy they scored four times in the 1st off Gallardo to take a 4-0 lead. Brews got two back in top 2 off the previously untouchable Carpenter so the match-up of aces not quite going to way they wrote it up.

Ceetar Oct 12 2011 07:37 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Frayed Knot wrote: The Cards handed out 'Rally Squirrel' towels to arriving fans. And despite that idiocy they scored four times in the 1st off Gallardo to take a 4-0 lead. Brews got two back in top 2 off the previously untouchable Carpenter so the match-up of aces not quite going to way they wrote it up. That's kinda cool actually.

TransMonk Oct 13 2011 06:57 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

From a guy who doesn't think much of him during the regular season, I think Brian Anderson is calling a swell NLCS. Him, Ronnie and John Smoltz make a pretty decent national TV team. I think TBS should always let the local play-by-play guy call their playoff games.

Ceetar Oct 13 2011 06:58 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

TransMonk wrote: From a guy who doesn't think much of him during the regular season, I think Brian Anderson is calling a swell NLCS. Him, Ronnie and John Smoltz make a pretty decent national TV team. I think TBS should always let the local play-by-play guy call their playoff games. meanwhile the fox guys for the ALCS are pretty bad. on radio too.

Gwreck Oct 13 2011 07:26 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

ESPN Radio (free) has Dan Shulman and Orel Hershisher who are very good. The Tigers' and Rangers' local radio ($$ through MLB Gameday Audio) aren't.

Ceetar Oct 13 2011 07:33 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Gwreck wrote: ESPN Radio (free) has Dan Shulman and Orel Hershisher who are very good. The Tigers' and Rangers' local radio ($$ through MLB Gameday Audio) aren't. maybe they just had an offday, because Shulman and Hershisher were annoying me today. Normally I think they're okay. Mainly that it seemed like 90% of the broadcast was about the quantity of Verlander's pitches.

Gwreck Oct 13 2011 07:49 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

I only listened for a few innings so I can't critique the entire broadcast. That being said, Verlander's pitch count was one of the single most important factors in the game: he's the best pitcher in baseball; the Tigers had none of their top relievers available; it's a potential elimination game.

Ceetar Oct 13 2011 08:08 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Gwreck wrote: I only listened for a few innings so I can't critique the entire broadcast. That being said, Verlander's pitch count was one of the single most important factors in the game: he's the best pitcher in baseball; the Tigers had none of their top relievers available; it's a potential elimination game. I'm not denying that, but we don't need a pitch count on every pitch in the third inning and a projection of how far he can go with every out recorded or batter reached. Walk and an error in the third with outs and they weren't even talking about the potential go-ahead runness of the situation.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 13 2011 08:51 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

These games have been just as close-- or almost as close, anyway-- but nowhere near as tense as the Rangers-Tigers series, amirite? Thanks, Genius.

Edgy DC Oct 13 2011 09:05 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

That Molina at-bat seemed to last about 75 minutes.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2011 09:19 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Edgy DC wrote: That Molina at-bat seemed to last about 75 minutes. So do most Braun ABs as he's one of those 'go for a stroll and re-adjust the batting gloves after every pitch' guys.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 13 2011 09:36 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: These games have been just as close-- or almost as close, anyway-- but nowhere near as tense as the Rangers-Tigers series, amirite? Thanks, Genius. Just what I was thinking.

metirish Oct 14 2011 06:37 AM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Randy Wolf eh? Enjoying the AL tilt more than this....

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2011 07:35 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

[u:3vb280s8]GAME 5[/u:3vb280s8] -- Wow that's a quick hook - even for LaRussa - as Garcia is pulled up 4-1 in the top of the 5th. Of course it is Braun up as the tying run, but he's also 0-2 so far. Dotel in. ... and it works as Dotel Ks Braun with 2-on and 2-out.

metirish Oct 14 2011 08:18 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Dotel is ageless , looked great there.

themetfairy Oct 14 2011 09:07 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 15 2011 05:48 AM

Edgy DC Oct 14 2011 09:09 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Looks like it's not to be a Brewer night.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2011 09:14 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Edgy DC wrote: Looks like it's not to be a Brewer night. Budweiser gaining market share over Miller.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2011 09:30 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

If I wasn't rooting hard for Milwaukee before, I am now. God DAMN, is this team a LaRussa special-- it's engineered for pitching changes, lefty-righty matchups, extraneous defensive switches that end up getting lucky. A victory for them here (much less in the WS) is a victory for the kind of baseball that baseball haters see when they look at the game; it's baseball at its worst, like the Lemaire Devils or the Riley Knicks* winning championships. Come on, you dumb, fat Brewers! Stop kicking the ball around for 18 innings! *As a Starks/Masonite of the highest order, it pains me to say this.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 14 2011 10:48 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

F the Brewers. They're like the 06 Mets, losing to an inferior StL team on merit.

G-Fafif Oct 15 2011 05:16 AM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

F the Brewers. They're like the 06 Mets, losing to an inferior StL team on merit. Exact same pattern on games, too: Win the first, lose the second and third, win the fourth, lose the fifth, now bring the series home needing to win both. Except for disdainful memories from 26 and 24 years ago (which forever turned me off to masses of red-clad humanity) and the sincere desire to watch Yadier Molina self-immolate every time the camera picks him up ("c'mon Sager, just bonk him with that microphone"), I could be into this Cardinal team. Yes, La Russa is managing this series to death, but thus far it's working to his advantage. And the Cardinals are picking the Brewers' pockets clean at every turn. They are so unlikely (given the yearlong absence of Wainwright and how far they had to go to catch and pass Atlanta) that I'm finding their ride hard to resist. Also, I did so much rooting against where the MFYs and Phillies were concerned that I don't know how much sheer animosity I have left in the tank. Milwaukee has done little to inspire allegiance in this round. Ever since Greinke issued inflammatory quotes about Carpenter, I've had a sense of doom about them. That could change under the retractable roof of Miller Park, of course, but now I'm keen to see just how far this five innings, hand it to the bullpen tactic can carry St. Louis. It's a little like watching the 2008 Mets down the stretch except with relievers who don't uniformly suck.

bmfc1 Oct 15 2011 08:31 AM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

This is such a hard series to find a favorite because each team has negatives. The ones for St. Louis are obvious: LaRussa; the Herzog years; Y. Molina; and, "the best fans in baseball." Milwaukee's players seem smug/cocky/arrogant, especially Braun; N. Morgan's an idiot; and they're Selig's team. I put on the games and instinctively root against both teams.

themetfairy Oct 15 2011 09:22 AM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

bmfc1 wrote: I put on the games and instinctively root against both teams. But not as intensely as the 2009 WS....

Gwreck Oct 15 2011 09:23 AM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

I just assumed nobody here even watched that series. I sure didn't.

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2011 12:08 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Braun has 5 RBIs in the series, but 4 of them were in the first few innings of the first game. He's gotten his hits since (8 overall - 4 for XB) but has done zippity-Duda with men on. Even Hairston's given them more ('til he let that ball shoot thru his legs last night anyway) Throw in Prince having all of 3 Ribbies while both Gallardo, Grienke & Marcum are all pitching like shit and it's like they're trying to win without their biggest guns at the same time that their 'D' is just handing the Cards runs on a platter. If it wasn't for Wolf bailing their asses out they'd already be home.

MFS62 Oct 16 2011 08:50 AM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

If the Cards win tonight, the Series will produce a managerial match-up of an admitted ex-Cocaine user and an ex-Lawyer. What a quandry. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 16 2011 06:20 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Brewers so deserve this. edit: This meaning the humiliating beatdown they're absorbing in this 1st inning of a must-win game.

G-Fafif Oct 16 2011 06:45 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

From deep down in my stomach, with every inch of me, I pure, straight hate the Cardinals. But goddammit, do I respect them!

Frayed Knot Oct 16 2011 06:58 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

BOMBS AWAY !!!!!

G-Fafif Oct 16 2011 06:59 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Glad I'm a National League fan where everything isn't about swinging for the fences.

Edgy DC Oct 16 2011 07:16 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Marcum's teammates showing some heart. But now Punto at the bat with the sacks juiced. Let's go, GiDP.

Edgy DC Oct 16 2011 07:28 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Gowch, Brewers. Stop digging.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 16 2011 07:52 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Gl@vine himself couldn't pull a better Gl@vine job on the Brewers than Marcum has in this series.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 16 2011 07:56 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Dane Iorg is the Brewer first-base coach? I wonder if observant, long-time Cards fans are starting to get paranoid and scan the crowd for Denkinger.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 16 2011 07:59 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

"Phee-yew. Man, could I use a Sazerac and soda right about now."

themetfairy Oct 16 2011 08:13 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Is there a mercy rule in the NLCS?

Edgy DC Oct 16 2011 08:21 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Not for Cargo Pants, who singles and goes from first to third on a wild pitch. Six more of those, and this could get interesting.

metsguyinmichigan Oct 16 2011 08:22 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

I have find memories of my times in St. Louis, and I do think the Cards have great fans. But I'm a little tired of seeing them in the World Series. Was hoping for a series with two teams that have not won it before. Freaking choking Brewers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 16 2011 08:25 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Cheap calls at first ("getting Ortaed?") won't help-- even ones that make Dan Lozano gasp.

Edgy DC Oct 16 2011 08:33 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Somehow, we just need to convince LaRussa to bring in John Lackey.

Edgy DC Oct 16 2011 08:37 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Funny thing about the Cards is that every time you get Pujols out, it feels like momentum shifts in your favor. (And yes, that attitude may expose you to socks to the jaw from the Molinas of the world, but I'm going with it.)

metsguyinmichigan Oct 16 2011 09:15 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Well, Frankie hasn't changed much.

Edgy DC Oct 16 2011 09:19 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Did he just punch somebody? Seriously, wait 'til we start voting for the Tug McGraw Award tomorrow. Your tune may change.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 16 2011 09:20 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

metsguyinmichigan Oct 16 2011 09:25 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Hey, Prince. The fans who have been paying your salary just gave you a standing O after your last at-bat as a Brewer. Would it have killed you to at least wave to them for a moment?

Edgy DC Oct 16 2011 09:37 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Fourth and 26 for the the Beermakers here. Maybe moreso, considering Prince is breaking up the Revolution.

Edgy DC Oct 16 2011 09:47 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

UNESCO Benneton, swinging at trash, is out number one.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 16 2011 09:49 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Potsie Webber is crying.

Edgy DC Oct 16 2011 09:51 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Is Prince a Red Sock yet?

Edgy DC Oct 16 2011 10:11 PM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

Thanks in large part to a three-run homer by Prince Fielder in the All-Star game back in July, the Wild Card Cards are your home-field-advantagers this World Series. Thanks, Prince!

Frayed Knot Oct 17 2011 06:22 AM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Well, Frankie hasn't changed much. If the rest of the Brewer team had played at least average-ish like Frankie did (3 IP - 1 run) they wouldn't have gotten their collective asses handed to them by a clearly inferior team. But starters Marcum, Greinke & Gallardo sucked, Weeks & Fielder sucked, Braun never got a hit that mattered after game 1, and their defense really sucked. Their pen in general and the run Frankie gave up last night in particular was like #28 on their problems this week.

Frayed Knot Oct 17 2011 07:38 AM Re: Cards & Brews -- 2011 NLCS IST

StL just won a six game series where their starters went: 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, 4.1, 4.2, and 2.0 innings. Totals for the series: Starters: 24-1/3 IP; 18 ER; 36 Hits Relievers: 28-2/3 IP; 6 ER; 15 Hits Also, no [u:26l0logx]Un[/u:26l0logx]earned runs in the entire series.