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1986 Post-Season
Edgy MD Oct 08 2011 09:26 AM |
Twenty-five years ago today, the 1986 post-season began for the Mets as Dwight Gooden dominated the Houston Astros in the dome where he made his big league debut two and a half years earlier. Gooden went seven innings, striking out five and walking three, holding the 'Stros to seven hits and a lone rone on a Glenn Davis solo homer.
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Gwreck Oct 08 2011 09:37 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 08 2011 09:49 AM |
Dykstra is listed as advancing to second base on a "K" in the 6th inning. I guess that means there was a Wild Pitch or Passed Ball on called strike three to Hernandez?
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HahnSolo Oct 08 2011 09:47 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
One of Backman's fly balls to left--I think it was teh AB in the 6th, with Dykstra on first--was deep to the warning track that was tracked down by Jose Cruz. I remember thinking at the time that that may have been our one chance to get to Scott.
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Frayed Knot Oct 08 2011 12:07 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
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BB-Ref lists it as a stolen base on the full-count strike 3 to Hernandez
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Edgy MD Oct 10 2011 08:57 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Well, I didn't get to post, but yesterday minus 25 years, Bob Ojeda matched up against future Hall of Famer and 1969 Mets ringwearer Nolan Ryan, and managed to go the distance despite giving up 10 hits --- nine of them singles, but combined with two walks yielded, such a complete game is all but untinkable today. The Mets lefthanded contingent had no problem getting around on Nolie, with six hits and two walks out of the first three batters. Hernandez two-run fifth-inning triple put the game well in hand for the Mets, But there's something about it being over when it's over, so Bob Ojeda stuck around until it was over.
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Edgy MD Oct 11 2011 07:01 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Twenty-five years ago, the Mets are back at home against the Astros, tied 1-1 in a newfangled best-of-seven NLCS. They kept it even with two well-pitched games from Dwight Gooden and Bob Ojeda. But Ron Darling? He comes out with nothing! Before 55,052 at Big Shea, he gives up two in an ugly first: Groundout-Doran/1B-Hatcher/SB-Hatcher/1B-Walling (1st run)/WP (Walling to 2B)/HbP-Davis/SO-Bass/1B-Cruz (2nd run)/ PkO-Davis.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 11 2011 08:27 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Geez, that was an amazing month. I was totally absorbed in the Mets. Even when I wasn't thinking about the Mets, I was thinking about the Mets.
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Frayed Knot Oct 11 2011 08:49 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
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He did slide. Actually more like a lunge as the big controversy on that play was the Astros claiming he went out of the baseline to avoid the tag.
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Edgy MD Oct 11 2011 08:52 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
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My Yankee fan college roommate was furious. Unknowing the world beyond the Yankees, he could not abide Houston manager Hal Lanier leaving in gray-haired bowlcutted Dave Smith. "Put in your ace!" he kept screaming.
Remembering this vividly now.
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Edgy MD Oct 11 2011 08:53 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
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dinosaur jesus Oct 12 2011 07:04 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Dykstra was already in the game--he pinch hit for Aguilera in the seventh.
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Edgy MD Oct 12 2011 07:07 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Ain't no cruising in the post-season. The competition is much harder, the stakes are much higher, and the sample size is much smaller.
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Edgy MD Oct 12 2011 12:54 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Looking forward to seeing if Fernandez has any more luck against Scott than Gooden did. I'm intrigued that Johnson has gone to a four-man rotation against Lanier's three-man.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 12 2011 01:12 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
I attended 1986 NLCS Game 4. My second in-person post-season game, and the first one involving the Mets. (I went to an Orioles-White Sox ALCS game in 1983.)
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Edgy MD Oct 13 2011 08:53 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Could Mike Scott improve 25 years ago last night on his 14-strikeout, five-hit shutout performance in game one. Not really, but in game four, he held the Mets on the ground, limiting them to three ground singles, no walks, and Wally Backman reaching on interference in the baseline by Scott himself. The Mets were hitless through the first five. While his scuff splitter fanned only five, it produced 13 groundouts.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 13 2011 08:57 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
I sincerely hope that 1-3 for Wally in the 9th wasn't a bunt.
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Edgy MD Oct 13 2011 09:04 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
That's his game, baby. When you're tying run and have almost no extra-base power, you get on base any way you can, and bunting for hits against overweight pitchers is his way.
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metirish Oct 13 2011 09:05 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Future manager right there is Wally.
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HahnSolo Oct 13 2011 09:32 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Actually it wasn't three solo HRs. Ashby's was a 2-run shot, which makes the foul ball non-out even worse. That would have been the third out with no runs coming across that inning.
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Edgy MD Oct 13 2011 09:34 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Sorry. Misread that boxscore.
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Ceetar Oct 13 2011 09:35 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
hit and run with Knight/Mookie in the 9th? Gusty to go first to third on an infield grounder.
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Edgy MD Oct 13 2011 09:37 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
That was Mookie's game. As fast as he was stealing and in the outfield, going from first to third he was blazing. He just had this runningback's way of exploding out of his cut.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 13 2011 09:45 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
My one real memory of this game was Danny Heep hitting a home run. Turns out that he only had a sac fly. Scoring a run off Mike Scott was such a big deal that the years have morphed that sacrifice fly into a home run in my mind.
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HahnSolo Oct 13 2011 09:45 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
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Lanier going lefty/righty I guess. I think Walling and Garner platooned that series.
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Edgy MD Oct 14 2011 10:18 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
The Mets, tied 2-2 in a series but unable to solve Mike Scott whatsoever, suddenly have the psychological context of their series switched on them. If a win Scott over Darling is such a given for game seven, that forces them to approach Games Five and Six as two consecutive elimination games. And with Game Five pushed back a day, the specter only grew, with reporters and the players left with nothing to do but talk and talk and talk about Mike Scott.
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HahnSolo Oct 14 2011 11:39 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Amazing that the Mets went down in order 9 out of 12 innings and still won.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 14 2011 11:42 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
got an email alerting me to a 86 reunion at Strawberrys Grill. Only $599 a ticket!
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Ceetar Oct 14 2011 11:44 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
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with a list of the players that "might" attend.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 14 2011 12:19 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
For $599 they better let you into the porn room!
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Frayed Knot Oct 14 2011 03:30 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
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I remember that HR for how atypical a Strawberry swat it was; instead of the high almost punt-like paths to CF/LCF that were his usual fare, this one was a line-drive down the RF line that didn't get much higher than the top of the fence and got there so quickly that it could easily have wound up a single until it just snuck over the wall before ricocheting back-and-forth four or five times between the shell of the stadium where the old 341' mark had been and the back of the then "new" wall.
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Ashie62 Oct 14 2011 04:59 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
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Was that off Nolan Ryan in a daygame?
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Edgy MD Oct 14 2011 05:42 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
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You're right. I was duped by a bad description. It was a liner, not a parabola.
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G-Fafif Oct 25 2011 10:56 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
FYI: In observance of Buckner Day, we're giving away five copies of an excellent DVD over at FAFIF today. It's Game Six telecast which offers synced-to-video audio of Murph & Thorne in addition to the television call of Scully & Garagiola.
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Edgy MD Oct 25 2011 10:59 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Boy did I drop this thread.
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G-Fafif Oct 25 2011 11:01 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Yeah...anyway, go take the quiz and maybe win yourself a DVD.
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HahnSolo Oct 25 2011 12:04 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Great quiz. I got a few on first reading, but whoever wins the DVD definitely earns his Mets fan card.
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G-Fafif Oct 27 2011 06:00 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Happy anniversary, World Championship!
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 27 2011 06:39 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
And happy birthday to Jon Niese and Pedro Beato!
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G-Fafif Oct 27 2011 07:10 AM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
Or as Ralph might put it, happy birthday to all you world champions out there.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 27 2011 02:52 PM Re: 1986 Post-Season |
The 1986 World Championship season is now so long ago that it has slipped into the first half of Mets history.
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