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I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a game
metirish Oct 28 2011 09:16 AM |
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without DVR.
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sp ... _dvr_.html
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Centerfield Oct 28 2011 09:20 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
I know people complain about it a lot, and understood a four hour game can get tedious, but I have no problem at all with the pace of a baseball game.
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Edgy MD Oct 28 2011 09:22 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
I agree about ad time, but disagree strongly that the time between pitches is dead time.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2011 09:23 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
If the quality of the play is good, who wants it any faster? DVR fags suck.
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G-Fafif Oct 28 2011 09:49 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
Won't this guy be elated when he's no longer burdened by long-ish games after tonight?
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metirish Oct 28 2011 09:54 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
Seems like a lot of trouble to FF in between pitches , plus I can rarely DVR a sports event and then avoid the score.
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Ceetar Oct 28 2011 10:04 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
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I'm all for trying to eliminate some of that time. I don't think there's any harm and trying to keep pitchers from taking the ball, then taking a brief hike around the mound, doing some Yoga to get focused, and then stepping on the rubber. But I'm feverishly (feverently?) against a clock of any sort being introduced into baseball, ever. no clock. that's the whole beauty of it. But I agree that I don't really have a problem with the pace of a game. Sometimes it's annoying when teams like the Yankees have the pitcher throw to first, then have the catcher come out, then have the pitcher throw to first again, and then the manager comes out walking like he's 105 and needs a walker, before finally signaling for the reliever. this is not what's keeping people from being interested in baseball as NFL people like to claim. The break, extra point, break, kickoff to a fair catch, break, okay lets play again nature of an NFL game doesn't seem to keep anyone away.
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Edgy MD Oct 28 2011 10:19 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
Then let the ump hammer on the manager that he's being inconsiderate and holding up the game and remind him that he's the supreme law.
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metirish Oct 28 2011 10:24 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
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love when they do that, FOX had them wired for sound and the ump and catcher had a brief exchange, likewise the catcher will do the same for the ump when they take one.
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Ceetar Oct 28 2011 10:28 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
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That stuff is different I think. But there is a nuance to disrupting the timing of the pitcher these days. Beltran did it a lot from what I noticed, stepping out to mess with the pitcher. If you think about it some things have to be faster, years ago for a foul ball down the line they had to have the fielder run over and get it (how old a tradition are ball boys in the OF?) and then throw the ball back in. Now they just take another ball out of the umps bag and away we go.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2011 10:43 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
I still usually watch baseball live, but I do a TiVo-delay when I can. When I'm watching a delayed game, I always fast-forward the commercials and usually watch the game action in real time. But I have sometimes done the zip-between-pitches thing when I'm pressed for time or not feeling particularly patient.
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Edgy MD Oct 28 2011 10:46 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
Yeah, some things have to be faster, and the umps have been policing those things. And the tension between and among the delaying player and the aggressive player and the umps is a part of the story too.
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metirish Oct 28 2011 10:50 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
Steve Traschel on the mound with Nomar at bat,tell those two to hurry up and they probably fall apart. Some players are slow and some have idiosyncrasies that are part of their makeup.
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Frayed Knot Oct 28 2011 11:02 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
Couple of points here, particularly seeing as how I'm probably the biggest game-time complainer 'round these parts.
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A Boy Named Seo Oct 28 2011 11:13 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
I fast-forwarded that article, but back when I used to watch baseball, I'd Tivo the games because I'd still be working for the 4PM west coast start times. I effin loved zooming through the commercials and even when I was off work, I started DVR'ing it and would start like a half hour late, so I could zip through just the same. FF'ing between pitches is st00pid & lame, but I'm apparently a big, flag-waving, card-carrying DVR fag.
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metirish Oct 28 2011 11:20 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
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see, this is a perfect use of the DVR , west coast time, of course you still need to avoid the score.
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Edgy MD Oct 28 2011 11:34 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
He probably fast-forwards through the pizza-delivery part of his gay porn, too.
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Benjamin Grimm Oct 28 2011 11:35 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
If you start watching the game an hour or so after it starts, it's easy enough to avoid any "spoilers."
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Ceetar Nov 11 2011 08:16 PM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
"I think the game is too long," Phils General Manager Lee Thomas said. "I hope fan interest isn't waning. I'm sure there are some people who don't like the longer games, and neither do we. They probably are 15 to 20 minutes too long."
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Fman99 Nov 11 2011 08:21 PM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
The key is to suck down a shit ton of alcohol when you're watching. Then, not only do you not mind the gaps in between pitches, but entire at bats just cruise on by and you won't feel a thing.
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Ceetar Nov 11 2011 08:24 PM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
There's a shot of Eddie Murray and a caption: "His at-bats are of miniseries-length proportions."
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Vic Sage Nov 12 2011 10:07 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
the cup-adjusting, chaw spitting, pinetar gripping, noodling around by either hitter or batter is not the real issue, despite that it may exascerbate the problem (if it IS a problem, and i really don't think it is). By and large, the difference between current length of a game and pre-80s length can be directly blamed on bullpen specialization, especially in the AL, where there is no consequence (to the lineup) of calling in guys to throw 1 pitch to to 1 hitter, then replacing him with another, and another.
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MFS62 Nov 12 2011 11:49 AM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
IIRC, there used to be a rule that required a pitcher to throw the ball within ___ (20?) seconds if the bases were empty, or the ump could call an automatic "ball".
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Frayed Knot Nov 12 2011 01:19 PM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
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There still is a rule (I believe it's 12 seconds) it's just never enforced. Batters are supposed to stay in the box for the entire AB too (or at least request permission to step out) but the umps don't enforce that either because they know (or at least feel) that they'll get more abuse from trying to enforce it than it's worth. They know who the stars are and who MLB will eventually side with.
There are stats and, yes, AL games are longer than NL (with IL games falling somewhere in between). The DH is certainly part of that but only tangentially in that, while the AL is no longer automatically the higher scoring league (the DH spot ain't what it used to be), the pitcher not batting means there's no benefit to wait for between innings to make mound changes therefore there are more in-inning switches. So, in a sense, both you and Vic are correct. Personally, I think the 19 Yanx/Sawx [crossout]games[/crossout] mini-series per year are so ridiculously long that they alone are enough to account for much of that difference. The longer game culprits are obvious: * commercial time: 2:05 in between each half-inning; 2:25 if it's a GotW broadcast (that covers FOX Sat & ESPN's SNB); and then 2:55 for post-season games. Nothing is going to alter those times so the best you can do is make sure that all sides are ready to go right after those marks and not allow simple laziness to extend each gap another 10-15 seconds. * multiple pitching changes -- again, no real way to change it except maybe require a pitching switch on each mound visit after the first one of the game (rather than allowing one freebie per inning). LaRussa retiring helps a bit too. After that you get into the smaller time-wasters which won't mean as much but they are things that MLB can actually address, mainly pitchers taking forever (hello Mr. Papelbon) coupled with batters who feel it necessary to take a stroll and re-velcro their batting gloves after every pitch. Here baseball can start in the minors where it's more possible to enforce the pitch/time rules and the 'stay in the box' rules without upsetting some prima-donna and his elaborate and established routine. Then, maybe in five years, you won't have half the league taking half-a-minute between pitches as a matter of habit without even realizing it. And if enforcing those rules means managers will no longer have the time to signal their catchers for every pitch-out, throw-over, knock-down, or mound-visit to the point where their backstops will have to decide those things for themselves ... well then that's OK with me too.
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Ashie62 Nov 12 2011 05:40 PM Re: I’ve loved baseball my whole life. Now, I can’t watch a |
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Is it worth the hangover? Burp.......
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