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1986: A Postseason to Remember
HahnSolo Nov 04 2011 07:26 AM |
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Holy crap, this looks good:
And a little admission from Mike Scott:
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seawolf17 Nov 04 2011 07:26 AM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
That sumbitch.
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Edgy MD Nov 04 2011 07:34 AM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
If you look back on Clemens' post-season career, game by game, he's the least game guy ever with the reputation of a gamer. It's like he carefully planned on how to develop a post-season reputation and made each decision with an eye toward that. Enormous phony.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 04 2011 08:33 AM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
The Torre/Verducci book I'm reading actually has some good stuff on Rajah, who's painted as a well-meaning, but high-strung and self-doubting coward. Not that that should surprise anyone but its pretty well told amid all the Jeter ballwashing.
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bmfc1 Nov 08 2011 12:45 PM MLB Network: "A Postseason to Remember: 1986" |
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MLB Network has a new show on the '86 post-season debuting on Wednesday night (11/9) at 9 PM:
The Times says that John McNamara discusses his decisions from the Series: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sport ... ref=sports
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metirish Nov 08 2011 01:53 PM Re: MLB Network: "A Postseason to Remember: 1986" |
Thanks, I'll check it out. Looking forward to some revisionist history from McNamara too.He was vilified up in Boston for some of his decisions?
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Edgy MD Nov 08 2011 02:00 PM Re: MLB Network: "A Postseason to Remember: 1986" |
I'm prepared to buy anything MacNamara wants to tell me about Roger Clemens, including his hatred of America and contempt for rappers and the representatives and employees of Death Row Records.
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HahnSolo Nov 08 2011 02:46 PM Re: MLB Network: "A Postseason to Remember: 1986" |
Sniff. Are my threads so easily forgotten?
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G-Fafif Nov 08 2011 02:55 PM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
I rewatched the key moments of Game Six, 2011, last night (recorded the day-after broadcast on MLBN). Egads, it hurt from nothing more than empathy's perspective to watch Freese's triple take flight knowing Cruz wasn't going to catch it, and that's two weeks after rooting for that game not to end so soon. It hurt watching Oliver and Feldman not protect the lead Josh Hamilton gave them. By the time it got to the eleventh, you knew what was coming.
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metirish Nov 08 2011 02:57 PM Re: MLB Network: "A Postseason to Remember: 1986" |
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You know , I thought I had seen about this show before.
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Edgy MD Nov 08 2011 03:01 PM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
Merged.
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Frayed Knot Nov 09 2011 09:38 PM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
Same format as in the 'Twenty Greatest Games' series: Costas & Verducci on stools facing the guests, in this case Mookie, Bruce Hurst, and Calvin Schiraldi. Also taped comments from Keith, Clemens, & McNamara.
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HahnSolo Nov 09 2011 09:54 PM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
Watched the beginning to hear Costas say that due to developments during production (I guess some of the stuff Johnny McNamara said?) they would only cover the World Series and not the Playoffs. I kinda wanted to hear what Mike Scott had to say.
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G-Fafif Nov 10 2011 05:59 AM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
Mookie: Classy as ever. Hurst: The designated spokesman for disappointment stood in admirably. Schiraldi: Reminded me of a Kids In The Hall bit wherein several computer-generated photos are shown to identify a suspect (played by Dave Foley) depending on how he disguised himself. In one of them, "this is how he'd look if he put on some weight, panicked and grew a beard."
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Frayed Knot Nov 10 2011 06:54 AM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
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He did sport a kind of 'groomed by committee' look, didn't he.
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TransMonk Nov 10 2011 07:38 AM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
Schiraldi reminded me of a bearded Damien Echols of West Memphis Three fame.
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Edgy MD Nov 10 2011 07:57 AM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
It's a little late to claim that Buckner was the better fielder after your usage suggested you had been getting him out of there whenever you could. Buckner was a fine fielder in his younger days but by the 1986 post-season he had the mobility and grace of a mailbox.
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HahnSolo Nov 10 2011 08:22 AM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
Buckner got to the ball, though. This wasn't a sharply-hit ball down the line or in the hole he couldn't reach.
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Edgy MD Nov 10 2011 08:25 AM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
Sure, that's where grace comes into play. He bent over gingerly, like he was balancing an appliance on his back.
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Edgy MD Nov 10 2011 08:30 AM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
I also continue to feel that the error was a grossly exaggerated part of the rally. Not only had the tying run scored, but I think Mookie beats the play to the bag (although he might not of with a better firstbaseman able to play that ball more aggressively).
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G-Fafif Nov 10 2011 03:13 PM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
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Olbermann approves of Schiraldi.
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batmagadanleadoff Nov 10 2011 03:27 PM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
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I can still remember the thoughts going through my head as the Mookie/Buckner play was still unfolding. I thought for sure that Mookie was going to leg out a single, even if Buckner fielded the ball perfectly. I was a hardcore fan then, as I still am, and I thought I had seen enough of Mookie running over the years that I had an excellent sense of processing all of the elements of the play -- Mookie's speed, the speed and direction of the grounder, where Buckner was positioned, etc. -- to determine that Buckner couldn't have done anything to prevent Mookie from reaching safely.
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Edgy MD Nov 10 2011 09:02 PM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
Me too. But even if you don't have all that going for you, you can watch the video of that play over and over and Mookie's head appears rounding first so fast that you tend to believe Buckner wouldn't have made that play at all. The Mets had the momentum, and the Mookie, and the Sox were playing on their heels and the Mets on their toes.
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batmagadanleadoff Nov 10 2011 09:49 PM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
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It wouldn't be the same. In 1986, I had what I believe was a powerfully accurate feel for whether Mookie would beat out an infield grounder almost from the instant the grounder was struck ... because I'd been watching Mookie's entire career to that point, without any significant lapses.
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Edgy MD Nov 10 2011 10:21 PM Re: 1986: A Postseason to Remember |
As I said, me too.
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