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Breaking Bad

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 12 2011 08:24 AM

I gave in to the buzz around this show and rented/watched the first season finally. Kind of abrupt ending at 7 episodes but realize now it was interrupted by the writer's strike. Anywhoo, we're pretty much hooked. Onto season 2. Anyone else watch this? Warn me if you're gonna spoil something.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 12 2011 08:31 AM Re: Breaking Bad

The truly remarkable thing to me is that, baroque plot twists aside, you see the seeds of everything that the characters will become much, much later in the first few Season 1 episodes... it just takes years to metastasize (if you will). The writers, Cranston, Paul, and the support have done an amazing job in this respect. I finished Season 2 a couple of months ago, and have been slow-rolling through Season 3 (along with Mad Men, from the beginning) as BetterHalfer catches up. Suffice to say, it gets a lot wilder and bloodier in this one and the current season.

TransMonk Oct 12 2011 08:39 AM Re: Breaking Bad

I watched the first season...but now I badly need to catch up. This is one of many shows that the wife gets sqeamish about when she watches, so if I want to watch it, I have to do so by myself, which makes it more challenging. I did enjoy the first season, though.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 12 2011 08:55 AM Re: Breaking Bad

I passed on it when it first came on the air, but have heard so much good since then that I may go to season 1 and catch up. I don't buy or rent DVD's, nor do I do the Netflix thing, so I'll have to wait until I spot AMC airing the reruns. (By the way, if you missed Season 1 of The Walking Dead, AMC is running a marathon of all six episodes on Sunday, leading into the Season 2 premiere.)

Edgy MD Oct 12 2011 09:40 AM Re: Breaking Bad

My set-in-stone predictions for the premises of the next five made-for-cable hits: Devon seems like a quiet decent lady. Se could be just like you or me. Only she's a ruthless murderous ecoterrorist. Arturo seems like a quiet decent guy. He could be just like you or me. Only he's a FARC kidnapper. Elgin seems like a quiet decent guy. He could be just like you or me. Only he's a corpse-raping necrophiliac. Bruce seems like a quiet decent guy. He could be just like you or me. Only he's a malignant cancerous tumor. Robinson seems like a quiet decent guy. He could be just like you or me. Only he's a seven-year Yankee.

bmfc1 Oct 12 2011 11:06 AM Re: Breaking Bad

A phenomenal show.

G-Fafif Oct 12 2011 11:24 AM Re: Breaking Bad

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I gave in to the buzz around this show and rented/watched the first season finally. Kind of abrupt ending at 7 episodes but realize now it was interrupted by the writer's strike. Anywhoo, we're pretty much hooked. Onto season 2. Anyone else watch this? Warn me if you're gonna spoil something. To paraphrase a fringe character in Freaks and Geeks when Lindsey (one of the main characters) is introduced to the Dead, I envy that you're about to watch Seasons Two, Three and Four for the first time.

TransMonk Oct 12 2011 02:14 PM Re: Breaking Bad

I just found out today that Bob Odenkirk now has a character on the show. Now I HAVE to catch up!

Ashie62 Oct 14 2011 05:16 PM Re: Breaking Bad

I liked Gus with his head blown away...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2011 09:21 PM Re: Breaking Bad

TransMonk wrote: I just found out today that Bob Odenkirk now has a character on the show. Now I HAVE to catch up! He's great in it. Ashie62 wrote: I liked Gus with his head blown away... Really, man? REALLY?

Ashie62 Oct 14 2011 09:53 PM Re: Breaking Bad

He deserved it, it looked great, they wrapped things up nicely, and should end it here. Walter & Jessies shook hands and the Lily of the Valley poison remains a secret. On to Sons of Anarchy. Love them both.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2011 09:58 PM Re: Breaking Bad

JCL wrote: Anyone else watch this? Warn me if you're gonna spoil something. LWFS wrote: I finished Season 2 a couple of months ago, and have been slow-rolling through Season 3 (along with Mad Men, from the beginning) as BetterHalfer catches up.

G-Fafif Oct 15 2011 05:32 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Ashie62 seems like a quiet decent guy. He could be just like you or me. Only he's a Breaking Bad spoiler.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 19 2011 10:55 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Just watched the pilot and loved it. Now will steer clear and pretend I never read this stupid ass thread.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 23 2011 11:17 AM Re: Breaking Bad

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I gave in to the buzz around this show and rented/watched the first season finally. Kind of abrupt ending at 7 episodes but realize now it was interrupted by the writer's strike. Anywhoo, we're pretty much hooked. Onto season 2. Anyone else watch this? Warn me if you're gonna spoil something. You hooked me, Lunchie. I picked up Season One thanks to you and the rest of this thread last Friday and devoured it in two sessions.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 28 2011 08:43 AM Re: Breaking Bad

batmagadanleadoff wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I gave in to the buzz around this show and rented/watched the first season finally. Kind of abrupt ending at 7 episodes but realize now it was interrupted by the writer's strike. Anywhoo, we're pretty much hooked. Onto season 2. Anyone else watch this? Warn me if you're gonna spoil something. You hooked me, Lunchie. I picked up Season One thanks to you and the rest of this thread last Friday and devoured it in two sessions. I just inhaled the first three seasons like a junkie. Perhaps the most addictive television show I ever did

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2011 09:14 AM Re: Breaking Bad

We finished season 2, will start 3 this weekenmd. Spoiler alert (douchebags) for those not as far along as me: ****** I assume there will be a lot more resulting from the airplane incident, but I kinda felt like showing those moments all season long was a bit of dicktease. I mean, we didn't even know the guy's job until then (though I thought it was interesting when his daughter asked about how it was going). Crazy shit.

Frayed Knot Feb 14 2012 07:33 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Also a late-comer to this one, but am now caught up through Season 3 4 is not available on disc yet (at least not through NetFlix) although I suspect it will be prior to the start of the 5th [u:fz0ywnhl]and final[/u:fz0ywnhl] season currently projected for "mid-year". If not on Netflix in time, these cable channels tend to do re-runs of at least the most recent season as a lead-in to the new one so I'll have to keep an eye on them in the coming months.

Frayed Knot May 22 2012 02:21 PM Re: Breaking Bad

5th and final season set to debut on July 15th. There will be 16 episodes for this season *BUT* AMC plans to run the first eight in succession this summer [u:27s6b95y]and then the final eight in summer 2013[/u:27s6b95y] but somehow still call it [u:27s6b95y]One[/u:27s6b95y] season. NetFlix to start carrying Season 4 discs in June.

soupcan May 23 2012 09:27 AM Re: Breaking Bad

We went on a family trip to Israel in February and I downloaded the first season of 'Breaking Bad' and the first season of 'The Wire'. BB was soooo good that I just flew through the whole first season, came back from the trip and tore through seasons 2-4 within a few weeks. As everyone here says - fantastic show, great actors, great characters, great writing. Can't wait for season 5. I'm currently in Season 2 of 'The Wire' (I've got lots of time on my MetroNorth commute every day) and that series is pretty good too.

Methead May 24 2012 03:42 PM Re: Breaking Bad

I flew through all 5 seasons of The Wire in about a month. Amazing. I sorta wish I'd seen it before I got hooked on Breaking Bad. They're both fantastic.

Frayed Knot Jun 10 2012 05:22 PM Re: Breaking Bad

AMC is beginning a roll out of their 'Breaking Bad' reruns in advance of the new shows. So those of you who might want to catch up on things can do so starting with the pilot tonight but it's going to take some doing. At least initially it looks like they're going to be running these things at the rate of 2 to 3 per day and doing so at odd hours, so anyone looking to review the whole series is going to have to crank up the DVR and be prepared to immerse themselves in the doings of Walt White. First two episodes will air back to back tonight - actually at 3AM Monday morning to be more accurate. Hopefully they'll leave enough time to at least catch up on the season 4 shows before season 5 starts five weeks from tonight.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 10 2012 06:46 PM Re: Breaking Bad

We're in the middle of season 4 on DVD right NOW!!!! We'll finally be caught up in real time to the first-runs.

Frayed Knot Jul 13 2012 09:56 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Caught up with the last episode of season 4 tonight just in time for the debut of season 5 on Sunday night.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2012 10:26 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Did the same earlier this week. ****SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT**** So... holy hell, it's amazing how utterly, willfully-- and I think THAT's the key here-- terrible our protagonist has become, what with the child-poisoning (for no other purpose than to more convincingly manipulate his partner, no less). We're rooting for (or, at least, invested in) someone who's more or less decided to become a sociopath.

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2012 06:52 PM Re: Breaking Bad

****SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT**** So... holy hell, it's amazing how utterly, willfully-- and I think THAT's the key here-- terrible our protagonist has become, what with the child-poisoning (for no other purpose than to more convincingly manipulate his partner, no less). We're rooting for (or, at least, invested in) someone who's more or less decided to become a sociopath. He's become so horrid I bet he's also the one who gave Valley Fever to Ike!

Ashie62 Jul 15 2012 07:07 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Tonight Walt----Break on through to the other side!

soupcan Jul 18 2012 08:26 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Missed Season 5 premiere on Sunday night but was able to watch it last night through the internet tubes. I love technology. ***NOT A SPOILER - JUST MY THEORY*** Walt continues to be in rare form, but with Hank doggedly pursuing the trail, I've got to think this series is going to end with Walt dying just as Hank puts all of the pieces together, probably telling Walt that he knows he is Heizenberg just as Walt breathes his last breath on his hospital bed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 18 2012 09:40 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Not bad. My wild guesses: Walt Jr. ends up hooked on meth at some point (big-money bet); Walt kills Jesse (next "season").

batmagadanleadoff Jul 18 2012 09:48 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Nice guesses, guys. I'm amazed that Pinkman survived the first season. I'd like to see Skyler get it, though. What an overbearing cunt she is.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 18 2012 09:56 AM Re: Breaking Bad

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Not bad. My wild guesses: Walt Jr. ends up hooked on meth at some point (big-money bet); Walt kills Jesse (next "season"). I see Walt Jr obviously becoming a more critical link between Hank and Walt, perhaps before he dies of a meth OD, he reveals one to the other.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 18 2012 10:00 AM Re: Breaking Bad

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Nice guesses, guys. I'm amazed that Pinkman survived the first season. I'd like to see Skyler get it, though. What an overbearing cunt she is. I think I'd like Anna Gunn a bit more if she had the range to pull off "terrified"; the season opener's closing moment was tense, but it would have been epic with, y'know, an ACTRESS in the role. [Also, mid-series plastic surgery? NEVER a good idea.]

Frayed Knot Jul 18 2012 11:12 AM Re: Breaking Bad

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'm amazed that Pinkman survived the first season. I read somewhere that he wasn't supposed to, that the original idea was to just have him to serve as Walt's conduit to the meth world and then write him out (either via death or simply fading into irrelevance story-wise - not sure). But then the writers found they enjoyed the chemistry between him and Walt so much that they re-thought season 2 and beyond with him continuing along. I never try to figure out what's going to happen in these kinds of stories, but I do like how the opening moments of some shows give you a glimpse of future moments as a way to wonder how the story will get to that point. The very first show did that with a scene (Walt madly driving the old RV) which turned out to be just weeks in advance. In this last case it's about a year but it's a year where everything clearly hasn't gone too well for Walt - y'know, with the whole assumed identity and buying some exotic weapon thing.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 18 2012 11:35 AM Re: Breaking Bad

I was sorta only half-watching at first but that parking lot looked real East Coast to me.

soupcan Jul 18 2012 12:07 PM Re: Breaking Bad

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I think I'd like Anna Gunn a bit more if she had the range to pull off "terrified"; the season opener's closing moment was tense, but it would have been epic with, y'know, an ACTRESS in the role. You mean when she's in the hospital room? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: [Also, mid-series plastic surgery? NEVER a good idea.] Did. Not. Notice. That. We talkin' pregnant sweater monkeys?

soupcan Jul 18 2012 12:08 PM Re: Breaking Bad

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I was sorta only half-watching at first but that parking lot looked real East Coast to me. THe waitress in the diner said they were in California.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 18 2012 12:27 PM Re: Breaking Bad

See, I gotta watch again.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 18 2012 01:55 PM Re: Breaking Bad

I think I'd like Anna Gunn a bit more if she had the range to pull off "terrified"; the season opener's closing moment was tense, but it would have been epic with, y'know, an ACTRESS in the role. You mean when she's in the hospital room? No, I meant "I forgive you." (But come to think of it, that hospital room reaction was a little more than a little over-the-top, no?) [Also, mid-series plastic surgery? NEVER a good idea.] Did. Not. Notice. That. We talkin' pregnant sweater monkeys? Facelift (and/or Botox?). From Season 3 on, she's got the Joker rictus thing happening. Also: here's a fun tool for real completists: a series timeline (through Season 4), courtesy of the writers at New York's "Vulture." (The way they figure it, at this point, it's likely been about 10-11 months since the pilot/Walt's diagnosis.)

soupcan Jul 18 2012 06:59 PM Re: Breaking Bad

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I think I'd like Anna Gunn a bit more if she had the range to pull off "terrified"; the season opener's closing moment was tense, but it would have been epic with, y'know, an ACTRESS in the role. You mean when she's in the hospital room? No, I meant "I forgive you." (But come to think of it, that hospital room reaction was a little more than a little over-the-top, no?) Yes because when the camera turned to Ted, MY reaction was doubling over and guffawing. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: [Also, mid-series plastic surgery? NEVER a good idea.] Did. Not. Notice. That. We talkin' pregnant sweater monkeys? Facelift (and/or Botox?). From Season 3 on, she's got the Joker rictus thing happening. I always think her face looks a bit tight n' shiny but I chalk that up to makeup.

Ashie62 Jul 18 2012 10:18 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Walt Jr.'s world will be crushed one day. Skylar will turn on Walt and end the family business with lawyer Saul masterminding a kill by Mike. Jesse walks away whole.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 23 2012 10:45 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Televison's greatest attorney since Lionel Hutz is in line for a spinoff ... if he survives BB season five. http://www.tvequals.com/2012/07/23/who- ... -spin-off/

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 23 2012 12:26 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Better call Saul. He's awesome. The look Walt gave him in the middle of his spiel on Skylar last night was gold.

metirish Jul 23 2012 12:33 PM Re: Breaking Bad

I have the first two seasons at home , really need to watch it.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 07 2012 09:50 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Saul Goodman was Porno Gil in season one of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Frayed Knot Aug 07 2012 10:33 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Giancarlo Esposito was 'Bugging Out' in Do the Right Thing Talk about your extremes in character types.

Zvon Aug 09 2012 04:57 PM Re: Breaking Bad

I just read the opening post and skipped the rest cause I'm also not all caught up on the show. I did just watch ep's s5-1 & 2 this week. Have loved this show since the 1st season. At first I wasn't sure...it was kinda billed as a black comedy at first. And tho there were some light moments I felt after a few eps that this was in no way a comedy. And its not. Its as serious as cancer itself. I still remember when I decided that I was gonna stick with this show and take the ride. Walt had this other drug dealer guy tied up in his basement (season one- ep 3?or4? i think) and he was getting up the nerve to kill him. The scene when he finally does it was so realistically chilling that I was hooked since. Great show. I like that they have decided to wrap it up after this season too. During season 3 I thought how far can they string this premise out? Some eps seemed weaker as far as the overall story. I thought maybe they were padding things, stretching things out. But season 4 showed me that it was well worth waiting for. What a finale! Now season five should finish out this dark drama in a way, I hope, that satisfies anyone who follows the tale. Enjoy this show JCL. Its some of the best TV around these days.

Frayed Knot Aug 09 2012 05:51 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Zvon wrote: ... I like that they have decided to wrap it up after this season too. Well, sort of. Part of what you skipped above (and maybe you already know this) was the explanation that, while they're calling the final 16 episodes One season (aka: Season Five) they're going to show the first eight episodes of 'Season Five' this summer (four down, four to go) but then hold the final eight until sometime next year. That kinda suxx for me seeing as how I was a late-comer who basically gobbled up 4-1/2 seasons worth in like the last nine or ten months, and now am going to have to sit out a similar nine or ten month gap before getting to the final handful of shows.

Zvon Aug 10 2012 03:09 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Frayed Knot wrote: ... I like that they have decided to wrap it up after this season too. Well, sort of. Part of what you skipped above (and maybe you already know this) was the explanation that, while they're calling the final 16 episodes One season (aka: Season Five) they're going to show the first eight episodes of 'Season Five' this summer (four down, four to go) but then hold the final eight until sometime next year. That kinda suxx for me seeing as how I was a late-comer who basically gobbled up 4-1/2 seasons worth in like the last nine or ten months, and now am going to have to sit out a similar nine or ten month gap before getting to the final handful of shows. And in that way they are padding season 5 to get the most out of it. I think that sucks but I'm almost used to they way they parcel a series these days, though this is admittedly thin. My thinking in re: to the wrap is more so about the story, and where else they could take it without getting too thin or incredible in that area. Taking it to it's conclusion is a wise move. Does suck to have to wait. I wanted to get my brothers into Doctor Who so I burned a set of DvDs for season 5 & 6, just what I thought were the essential episodes of the latest incarnation of the Doctor. Still ended up using 18 episodes from those two seasons (and included three from the 10th Doctor/Tennant because they set up some of the newer ones). And when talking to them about the shows they just viewed it occurred to me that I was envious that they could experience in a few weeks what took me a number of years to see.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2012 10:36 PM Re: Breaking Bad

You're an adult, Z, so do what you want... but I HIGHLY recommend watching "Breaking Bad" in sequence. You lose a LOT of meaning in between the lines-- not to mention scratching your head to the bone over finer plot points-- if you jump around. ****SPOILER ALERT FOR DELINQUENT DVRers**** How chilling was that "What's The Plan" scene? Homeboy's got verbal abuse down to a science, don't he?

Zvon Aug 11 2012 03:16 PM Re: Breaking Bad

You're an adult, Z, so do what you want... but I HIGHLY recommend watching "Breaking Bad" in sequence. You lose a LOT of meaning in between the lines-- not to mention scratching your head to the bone over finer plot points-- if you jump around. General announcement: A spoiler is listed at bottom. Please avoid... or go ahead, spoil it for yourself, asshole. I agree big time LWSF. I think I've been misunderstood. I have been watching since the pilot episode. It's just that I rarely watch em when broadcasted anymore. I usually record them and watch them at my leisure. I have seen all eps in order (and you are right as rain, don't view this series out of order), it's just that sometimes Ill let 2 or 3 pile up and watch them in one or two sittings. I'm almost all caught up now. It's a lil bit of a hassle doing it this way cause you really have to avoid all commercials and chat involving eps not seen, but so far so good. I feel bad for anyone just jumping in who may have seen some of the commercials leading up to this new season. Cause there's one awesome scene(*spoiler-listed at bottom) that if you can avoid seeing (or even hearing about) until it happens in the show, you are much better off. *-Gus and his send-off, one of the best TV villain demises EVEH!

soupcan Aug 13 2012 08:38 AM Re: Breaking Bad

After last night's episode.....wow. Great tension in the final 5 minutes and great way to end it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2012 08:51 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Great setup, great build, great... everything. They've done a characteristically-solid job of integrating the new characters into the cast and giving them something to do besides react to Walt.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 13 2012 09:09 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Great nothing. Worst episode of the season, I thought. The bread part of the sandwich, featuring desert boy and his tarantula were super. The meat of the sandwich strained my credulity, even by TV standards. That great train robbery lacked any credibility and offended my expectations of semi-realism, even a watered down expectation to allow for artistic freedom and that it's a television show. Maybe Superman and Green Lantern could've pulled that one off in less than 10 minutes, but not Walter White, supergenius and all. They channeled the worst elements of the stupid Summer blockbuster super-action flick last night.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2012 09:23 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Really? So... you'll buy Magnets, Bitch!-- and chem-bombing Tuco, and Gus' self-poisoning gambit, and Gus' death, and any number of other SuperWalt-y bits of business-- but not this? I'll agree that most of the series' best moments have been those chilly, blink-and-you'll-miss-it bits in the interstices. But there's room for the Great Meth Robbery in this world, I think; the series' Albequerque has always been a very stylized reality.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 13 2012 09:28 AM Re: Breaking Bad

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batmagadanleadoff Aug 13 2012 09:37 AM Re: Breaking Bad

batmagadanleadoff wrote: [youtube]AVzX22lrWxA[/youtube] You forgot about Walt totalling gas station asshole yuppy's car by touching his exposed car battery with a wet squeegee. I once inquired about the science to that. There ain't none. It was total TV fantasy bullshit. I hear you. But what can I say? Everybody's got boundaries. Yesterday's train heist exceeded my limits of believability by a margin so wide that it marred my ability to enjoy the episode. [youtube]6GI4rwSqrEk[/youtube]

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 13 2012 10:37 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Interesting that 2 of the Big Ideas in this season so far have come from Jesse: Magnets and the water solution. Walt is an out of control asshole, nearly killed Jesse and the other guy just to top off the tank though would have been best if the other guy bought it.

soupcan Aug 13 2012 10:46 AM Re: Breaking Bad

batmagadanleadoff wrote: You forgot about Walt totalling gas station asshole yuppy's car by touching his exposed car battery with a wet squeegee. I once inquired about the science to that. There ain't none. It was total TV fantasy bullshit. I hear you. But what can I say? Everybody's got boundaries. Yesterday's train heist exceeded my limits of believability by a margin so wide that it marred my ability to enjoy the episode. I'll say this about that - I was good with the idea of the heist, the burying of the tanks and the way they they stopped the train, I bought all of it. As it was playing out though and I saw that Jesse's hose had to fit exactly the coupling on the train, and that Todd, had to remove the lug nuts on top of the car, I thought - 'well this is a bit much, how would they know exactly what tools, etc., they would need to do all this?' Then I said two things to myself - 1. Suspend disbelief. Remember you are watching a television show. That worked for a bit but I was still just a tad troubled. Then I said - 2. Self, you don't know the timeframe they were working with - could've been a week that they had to prepare and maybe Lydia did have the information needed to get the proper tools, etc. So yeah, sure it was a bit far-fetched, but not knowing whether the train would pull away before they were done or they would be seen or whatever was great and Todd? Holy. Shit.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 14 2012 09:22 AM Re: Breaking Bad

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Really? So... you'll buy Magnets, Bitch!-- and chem-bombing Tuco, and Gus' self-poisoning gambit, and Gus' death, and any number of other SuperWalt-y bits of business-- but not this? I'll agree that most of the series' best moments have been those chilly, blink-and-you'll-miss-it bits in the interstices. But there's room for the Great Meth Robbery in this world, I think; the series' Albequerque has always been a very stylized reality. ... reminds me about our disagreement over the yellow mustard at Shake Shack.

Frayed Knot Aug 14 2012 09:34 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Todd (aka: Landry from Friday Night Lights) taking his foray into serious crime a bit too seriously if you ask me for a guy who's new and only supplemental to the operation. But I suspect he has higher goals and is anxious to show off his willingness to get there.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 14 2012 09:48 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Todd (aka: Landry from Friday Night Lights) taking his foray into serious crime a bit too seriously if you ask me for a guy who's new and only supplemental to the operation. But I suspect he has higher goals and is anxious to show off his willingness to get there. Jesse said it, and Todd took it very literally: no one can know about this. Of course, killing the kid-- considering what he saw/knows/can convey to anyone who'd care, and the likely LE/media attention his death could bring-- kinda seems like it might actually be the riskier move here, no?

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2012 06:52 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Oh definitely. They'll have to move the body so it looks like it was killed elsewhere so as to not draw attention to the immediate scene. But, as anyone who has ever watched an episode of CSI knows, that always gets sniffed out so it'll become just another loose end to contend with as will these extra people (Lydia, Todd, the truck driver, etc.) that they keep finding it necessary to bring into their formerly closed-off world in or pull off these stunts. As far as the whole train hijack scene and specifically the split-second "success" of it all (I didn't watch this week's show until after the game last night): A bit over the top? -- Sure. But at the same time it's pure Walt to push things to that extreme so he could get the full amount they planned for. It would have been safer to settle for less but he had his mind set on 10,000 gallons and, dammit, he was going to get 10,000 gallons. The chemicals were already theirs in his thinking so to settle for say 7,000 gallons would, to him, have been like losing 3,000 and ultimately the money that shortfall would have produced. It's gotten to the point where the planning and rush of the execution of this whole life-style of his has become as much a high to him as the drug he's concocting is to the ultimate users of his product even though he has no connection to them at all.

soupcan Aug 15 2012 08:27 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Oh definitely. They'll have to move the body so it looks like it was killed elsewhere so as to not draw attention to the immediate scene. But, as anyone who has ever watched an episode of CSI knows, that always gets sniffed out so it'll become just another loose end to contend with as will these extra people (Lydia, Todd, the truck driver, etc.) that they keep finding it necessary to bring into their formerly closed-off world in or pull off these stunts. I was thinking they'd just bury the kid where they had the tanks buried. Re: Todd - When he shot the kid, I flashed back to him saying to Walt and Jesse 'You guys thought of everything!' Little foreshadowing.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2012 09:32 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Right, they'd either have to move the body or simply make it disappear. But even the latter choice raises problems. You could see the parents telling APD that their kid's last known location was motor-biking in that area and some police and/or good-samaritan search party being organized right near where the tanks are (barely) buried.

soupcan Aug 20 2012 09:56 AM Re: Breaking Bad

'I'm not in the meth business or the money business...I'm in the Empire business...'

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2012 10:21 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Between his addiction to the action, his 'nothing left to lose' attitude concerning his family, and his desire to make up for the fortune he feels he let slip away years ago, Walt is determined to take this thing as far at it will go. So has anyone figured out a body-count since Walt decided to track down Pinkman and enter this little business venture, essentially a time-line of a shade over a year? Even if you just want to count the deaths directly attributable to Walt & Jesse the list is growing. - Those two dealers Walt snuffed by locking them in the RV with the fumes - The two that Walt plowed over with his car - Gale, the chem-apparent - Gus - and now the dirt-biking kid Plus I'm sure I'm missing several. And then there's the collateral damage -- those killed by Hank, Mike, Gus, and others -- which ratchets up the total even higher. Also, with the exception of Gus, the victims are becoming somewhat more innocent as time goes on. Certainly Gale and the kid didn't put themselves in a position where they 'reaped what they sowed' like the early targets.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 20 2012 10:37 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Tuco Salamanca. That dealer from Tuco's crew what got it in the junkyard. Tio Salamanca. Gus and all his henchmen. Jane. The crew and passengers on that ABQ flight (ripple effects from Jane's death). Don Eladio and his whole crew. Whoever was in the Super Lab when it was destroyed. The cousins. The hapless Mexican who noticed the detail on the cousins' cowboy boots and every other illegal alien in that truck trailer. Ted (paralyzed).

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 20 2012 03:22 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Combo. Andrea's brother Tomas (who killed Combo). The OTHER Tuco associate, who got it in the junkyard going back for the other one's body. The methhead who had the ATM dropped on his head. Victor, with the box-cutter. The German Madrigal dude who kills himself with the defibrillator. A bunch of cartel assassins and Fring associates during the truck robberies/shootouts.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 23 2012 05:06 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Tortuga. The DEA agent that got it when the tortuga under Tortuga's head detonated. Mr. Chow. The assassin hired by Ms. Madrigal to kill Chow (and to kill Mike, too).

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 23 2012 06:58 PM Re: Breaking Bad

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batmagadanleadoff Aug 23 2012 08:16 PM Re: Breaking Bad

That woman who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and got killed by The Cousins when they commandeered her house. The law enforcement officer who responded and got an axe to his back by one of The Cousins while The Other Cousin ate an orange and watched silently. The junkie whose head was crushed by an ATM (mentioned above) went by the name of Spooge. Jane's grieving dad shot himself in an apparent suicide attempt --prognosis unknown.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 27 2012 05:28 AM Re: Breaking Bad

BIG SPOILER FOR DVRers And now... one more. Loved the "Shut the f*ck up, and let me die in peace." Like, "I'll be damned if this is going to be another f*cking character moment for you." Great behind-the-scenes video from the lensing of this ep right here, courtesy of AMC. (If you didn't love Jonathan Banks from playing Mike in this, or his time on Wiseguy... this should do it.)

soupcan Aug 27 2012 08:09 AM Re: Breaking Bad

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Great behind-the-scenes video from the lensing of this ep right here, courtesy of AMC. (If you didn't love Jonathan Banks from playing Mike in this, or his time on Wiseguy... this should do it.) Thanks for that LWFS - I agree with Banks - I didn't like Mike leaving his granddaughter in the park, didn't think it was consistent with the character. Other than that, this show always satisfies.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 27 2012 08:28 AM Re: Breaking Bad

soupcan wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Great behind-the-scenes video from the lensing of this ep right here, courtesy of AMC. (If you didn't love Jonathan Banks from playing Mike in this, or his time on Wiseguy... this should do it.) Thanks for that LWFS - I agree with Banks - I didn't like Mike leaving his granddaughter in the park, didn't think it was consistent with the character. Other than that, this show always satisfies. Oh, the irony. Earlier this season, Madrigal Lydia avoided an execution at the hands of Mike by appealing to his inner grandfather; in the event Lydia was to be offed, she didn't want her daughter to think she was abandoned, and used that scenario to dissuade Mike from pulling the trigger.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 27 2012 08:07 PM Re: Breaking Bad

On Television Child’s Play “Breaking Bad” ’s bad dad. by Emily Nussbaum August 27, 2012 When the showrunner Vince Gilligan pitched “Breaking Bad” to AMC, he presented a mission statement, which amounted to a monumental spoiler: he would turn Mr. Chips into Scarface. The show’s protagonist was Walter White, a high-school chemistry teacher who had a wife, a disabled teen-age son, and a baby on the way. Given a diagnosis of late-stage lung cancer, Walt took up cooking meth to build a nest egg and, later on, to pay his medical bills. When faced with the dilemma of whether to kill a menacing thug, he scribbled down a panicked moral calculus. Con: “MURDER IS WRONG!” Pro: “He’ll kill your entire family if you let him go.” Ah, those were the days. Nobody could fault Walt when he strangled Krazy-8 with a bicycle lock, only two hours into the series. If television shows have conversion moments, that was mine. This was back in the chaotic, improvisatory days of Walt’s entry into the drug business, when the acid he’d intended to dissolve a tattooed corpse ended up eating right through a bathtub, so that the “raspberry slushie” of those human remains seemed as though it might leave a stain on the whole world. In a way, it has. Each season, Walt has made far less justifiable choices, each one changing him, with a throb of arrogance here, a swell of egotism there. We’re deep in the Scarface stage; the hero of the show is now its villain. There are only ten episodes left, eight of them due next summer, a welcome deadline that has allowed Gilligan to shape his ending without the vamping that mars so many multi-season dramas. But, even if his show ends brilliantly, he’s already told us that it won’t end well. Walt hasn’t been the only one making choices, of course; the audience has, too, particularly the choice to keep tuning in. “Breaking Bad” is an explicitly addictive series, full of cliffhangers, with a visual flair that is rare for television. (Its directors this season have included the independent-film auteur Rian Johnson.) At once humane and nastily funny, it is full of indelible characters, such as Jesse, Walt’s student turned tragic dupe, and Hank, Walt’s blustery brother-in-law, who works for the D.E.A. And yet, for all the show’s pleasures, its themes can be irredeemably grim, particularly now that the crutch of our sympathy for Walt has been yanked away. Each new episode arrives fraught with foreshadowing, with betrayal on the way—we know what has to happen, but not how. The show has shed its original skin, that of the antihero drama, in which we root for a bad boy in spite of ourselves. Instead, it’s more like the late seasons of “The Sopranos,” the first show that dared to punish its audience for loving a monster. This makes “Breaking Bad” a radical type of television, and also a very strange kind of must-watch: a show that you dread and crave at the same time. Last season ended with a cathartic payoff, as Walt outsmarted, then murdered, his enemy, Gus, the leader of an internationally connected drug cartel. Walt could have left the criminal life, but, as usual, he chose to continue. (Call him Macmeth: he’s stepped in blood so far, etc.) In this season’s early episodes, Walt ramped up a new operation: he tugged his old partners (Jesse and Gus’s enforcer, Mike) back into the game; the team pulled off a caper with an electromagnet, wiping out evidence; and, finally, they came up with a plan to hide their activities beneath the tents of a pest-removal company. Such problem solving has always been one of the show’s great satisfactions, allowing “Breaking Bad” to feel as much like a how-to as a why-not-to. The neater the plotting, the more the audience can detach itself a bit—like Walt himself—and view events as a type of meta-puzzle: can the stakes rise even higher? In the August 12th episode, as if to answer that question, a child was shot in the chest. It was the kicker to a sleek heist plot out of “Ocean’s Eleven,” as Walt and his team robbed a freight train of a valuable chemical. A henchman was set up, through sly narrative indirection, to look like a “redshirt” who might be sacrificed for the sake of the action. Instead, the redshirt pulled a gun, killing a boy who witnessed the crime, an act that struck many viewers as a brash perforation of the show’s moral fabric. In an ordinary drama, this would be true: causing a child’s death is still the rare TV taboo, at least for those characters whose cause we are meant to be invested in. But “Breaking Bad” has always put children in danger, to the point that it’s practically the show’s trademark. Walt’s rationalization is that he is protecting his family, but his most memorable targets are other people’s children: first, Jesse’s junkie girlfriend, whose air-traffic-controller father ended up crashing a plane in his grief over her death from an overdose, and then, last season, Brock, the son of another of Jesse’s girlfriends. A video-game-loving five-year-old, Brock was the definition of collateral damage. Walt poisoned him so that he could frame his old boss for it, thus luring Jesse back as his partner, since he knew that Jesse would be horrified by anyone who would harm a child. When Brock was near death in the I.C.U., I spent hours arguing with friends about who was responsible. To my surprise, some of the most hard-core cynics thought it inconceivable that it could be Walt—that might make the show impossible to take, they said. But, of course, it did nothing of the sort. Once the truth came out, and Brock recovered, I read posts insisting that Walt was so discerning, so careful with the dosage, that Brock could never have died. The audience has been trained by cable television to react this way: to hate the nagging wives, the dumb civilians, who might sour the fun of masculine adventure. “Breaking Bad” increases that cognitive dissonance, turning some viewers into not merely fans but enablers. In this year’s most frightening moment, Walt sat on a sofa and gazed down at Brock with measuring eyes. It had the air of a primal scene: the supervillain and his child victim. It also brought to mind the many children that Walt and his world have brushed up against, from Tomás, the eleven-year-old drug courier, to that child of feral junkies in Season 2, whose parents were Walt’s customers. From early on, Walt’s baby daughter, the smiling cherub Holly, has seemed to hover in the crosshairs. There’s a shooting gallery of others: Walt’s worshipful son, Walt, Jr.; Mike’s beloved granddaughter; the kids of Walt’s wife’s former lover; and, this season, the daughter of Lydia, the cartel’s newest and most unstable partner, a helicopter mom who’s lost a blade. In this bloodthirsty atmosphere, Gilligan has made several clever gambits to keep the show watchable, including swivelling background characters into the spotlight, where they can absorb the sympathy we once extended to Walt. The grizzled ex-cop Mike, with his dry wisecracks and his Realpolitik masculinity, fulfills our antihero needs. Jesse, once a doofus, has become downright astute. In the fourth episode, Gilligan pushed Skyler, Walt’s wife, into the foreground, granting her strength and insight; in one gorgeous scene, this happened literally, as the camera swung from a closeup of Walt, with Skyler facing away behind him, to a shot of Skyler’s expression, which was at once devastated and contemptuous. As Walt yammered on, his wife stepped into their pool and drifted under, her hair spreading. The gesture looked like a suicide attempt, but it was a stratagem: a drama designed to get her sister to take the kids out of the house, so that she could talk to her husband alone. As with many of the show’s psychological situations, Walt’s conflict with his wife is at once epic and ordinary, and it centers on the question that troubles many bad marriages: What would be best for the children? During their showdown, Walt lectured Skyler for feeling guilty about her role in his criminal enterprise, saying, “You did what you had to do to protect your family and, I’m sorry, that doesn’t make you a bad person. It makes you a human being.” It was Chicken Soup for the Sociopath Soul, like the noxious koans that Tony Soprano grew so fond of. But, unlike Carmela, Skyler called this what it was, a spin on “Shit happens.” In his insistence that he maintain complete control, Walt will not allow Skyler to send their kids away, or let her separate from him and keep the kids with her. He will not even admit that they are at risk. It’s the irresolvable irony of the character: Walt’s justification for every act is that he’s a great dad. But he’s a monster precisely because he’s so willing to place his kids in danger in order to prop up his self-image as a family man. “All I can do is wait,” Skyler tells him. “Wait for what?” Walt asks. “For the cancer to come back,” she replies. The audience now waits along with Skyler, as the narrative builds toward a finale in which anything might happen, since there will be no need to keep us watching. (A baby might die, for instance, maybe by swallowing the ricin pellet that’s tucked away in the Whites’ home.) To escape this moral checkmate, Gilligan might shift yet another character into the foreground, revealing that the show is actually (as a friend suggested) a hero’s tale in disguise. In that version of “Breaking Bad,” the protagonist is not Walt but Hank, a man with no children. Despite injury and depression, Hank brings down a vast drug ring, even when he discovers that the kingpin is his own brother-in-law, a sneering brainiac who has always considered himself superior. But because Hank is decent, and the show is on the side of good, Hank triumphs. That ending would have the virtue of symmetry, and pleasure, and closure, and relief, for the suffering audience. Right now, however, it’s easier to imagine someone innocent coming to harm. Early this season, Skyler wandered into the living room, only to find her husband watching TV with Walt, Jr., baby Holly cradled in his arms. “Say hello to my little friend!” Al Pacino shouted on the screen, spraying gunfire. Walt, Jr., laughed and said the line along with Pacino, grinning with excitement. “Everyone dies in this movie, don’t they?” Walt asked. The look in his wife’s eyes wasn’t anger, or even fear. It was dread. She’d seen that movie, after all. She knew how it ends. Read more http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/t ... z24noP2dQS

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2012 01:48 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Last episode prior to a long (ten month?) break this Sunday.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2012 07:33 AM Re: Breaking Bad

BIG SPOILER FOR DVRers And now... one more. Loved the "Shut the f*ck up, and let me die in peace." Like, "I'll be damned if this is going to be another f*cking character moment for you." Great behind-the-scenes video from the lensing of this ep right here, courtesy of AMC. (If you didn't love Jonathan Banks from playing Mike in this, or his time on Wiseguy... this should do it.) MORE BIG SPOILERS FOR DVRers The Death Tally - updated: Mike's Guys (The Hazard Payees); Attorney Wachsberg.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 03 2012 07:50 AM Re: Breaking Bad

I enjoyed the direction of this episode a lot; the montages worked (especially the snappiest-prison-massacre-you'll-ever-see and "Crystal Blue Persuasion;" I'm kind of shocked THAT hasn't been used before), and the transitions were showy in spots but smooth (Walt finishing his drink at Hank's, leaning forward, and coming up in full meth-battle-suit). Or, rather, I should say that I enjoyed the direction... right up until the last scene. Considering how elegant most of the important visual "callbacks" have been, and especially coming after the balls-up-into-my-body-cavity tension of the happy-family-pool-scene just prior to it, Hank on the toilet just seemed... hamfisted (compare and contrast to the lily-of-the-valley final shot at the end of last season).

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2012 08:13 AM Re: Breaking Bad

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Hank on the toilet just seemed... hamfisted (compare and contrast to the lily-of-the-valley final shot at the end of last season). No elegant way to take a shit, I suppose. I dug the ahem, poetic way that Gale implicates WW from the grave. Extra scene points for plausibility. But why would WW keep that book in his home? Same reason serial killers keep trophies of their victims? For a smart guy, WW can be so dumb.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 03 2012 08:20 AM Re: Breaking Bad

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Hank on the toilet just seemed... hamfisted (compare and contrast to the lily-of-the-valley final shot at the end of last season). No elegant way to take a shit, I suppose. I dug the ahem, poetic way that Gale implicates WW from the grave. Extra scene points for plausibility. But why would WW keep that book in his home? Same reason serial killers keep trophies of their victims? For a smart guy, WW can be so dumb. No elegant way to take a shit, maybe... but I'm not sure the blue-washed replay of the first moment with Hank/Gale/Whitman was necessary. Keeping the book-- which did pop up a few times this season, I recall-- may have been a serial killer-trophy thing. But I suspect it was more like the vestigial proud-teacher-who-got-a-nice-gift inside WW... it just seems likelier that he kept it because it was a lovely gift with a beautiful, flattering inscription, from a grateful pupil (see also: Jesse watch).

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2012 08:24 AM Re: Breaking Bad

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Keeping the book-- which did pop up a few times this season, I recall-- may have been a serial killer-trophy thing. But I suspect it was more like the vestigial proud-teacher-who-got-a-nice-gift inside WW... it just seems likelier that he kept it because it was a lovely gift with a beautiful, flattering inscription, from a grateful pupil (see also: Jesse watch). I like your thinking.

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2012 08:39 PM Re: Breaking Bad

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ... and "Crystal Blue Persuasion;" I'm kind of shocked THAT hasn't been used before) When Cranston appeared on Letterman in advance of season 5 the always tuned-in Paul Schaefer played that as his walk-on song. I liked the use of Squeeze's 'Up the Junction' in the background of the patio scene right before the Hank shitting revelation that could very well put Walt, well ... up the junction. Or at least that's my assumption. Now, after inhaling 4-1/2 seasons of this series in about ten months, I have to wait another ten just for the final eight episodes.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 03 2012 09:22 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Just caught up tonight. They showed the book in the Walt shower scene early and figured it had to have a purpose. As for the "reveal" I think fans could/would have it together without the flashback but obviously we're getting Hank's perspective.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2012 11:15 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Frayed Knot wrote: Now, after inhaling 4-1/2 seasons of this series in about ten months, I have to wait another ten just for the final eight episodes. Another binge watcher. Welcome to the club. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Just caught up tonight. They showed the book in the Walt shower scene early and figured it had to have a purpose. As for the "reveal" I think fans could/would have it together without the flashback but obviously we're getting Hank's perspective. So what would you do if you were Hank? Play it by the book and start an investigation on your brother in law? Perhaps lose control because the investigation can take on a life of its own. Ruin your in-laws? And ruin the futures of your beloved niece and nephew? And perhaps your own career because the DEA might not react kindly when it discovers that Walt was under your nose all along, and that Walt duped you so that he could bug DEA offices. But if that happens, Hank's at least got terrific material for a book deal, and maybe even a TV show. I'd name it Breaking Bad. Demand hush money from Walt in the many millions? Then you gotta worry that Walt might turn on you if it suits him. Or that the DEA'll monitor you to see if you're living beyond your means, especially if it learns of Walt's involvement independently. Oh, the moral dilemmas.

Ashie62 Sep 04 2012 07:59 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Fuck Hank...grease him Skylar.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 05 2012 07:33 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Hush money's not an option-- there's no way you blackmail someone who's proven to be as bloodless, resourceful, and lucky as WW... and besides, extortion is not what Hank does. As this show has long since become an over-the-top carnival ride with superlative acting, I really have no idea what they'll do with this. I suspect he'll pursue with grim determination, until the investigation/pursuit reaches a point at which Hank's in position to pull a trigger-- literal or figurative-- that will end it all... and he'll get cold feet. He'll tell WW (or Skyler?) to run, and Hank will suffer for it. Blah blah blah 50-caliber rifle.

Frayed Knot Sep 05 2012 07:40 AM Re: Breaking Bad

And then there's the season 5 intro scene to consider, one which certainly implies that things aren't going well for Walt one year (more or less) hence. Of course that doesn't mean that things won't go even worse for some other folks along the way or that Walt doesn't once again come out ahead in the end.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 05 2012 10:18 AM Re: Breaking Bad

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Hush money's not an option-- there's no way you blackmail someone who's proven to be as bloodless, resourceful, and lucky as WW... and besides, extortion is not what Hank does. As this show has long since become an over-the-top carnival ride with superlative acting, I really have no idea what they'll do with this. I suspect he'll pursue with grim determination, until the investigation/pursuit reaches a point at which Hank's in position to pull a trigger-- literal or figurative-- that will end it all... and he'll get cold feet. He'll tell WW (or Skyler?) to run, and Hank will suffer for it. Blah blah blah 50-caliber rifle. It doesn't have to be pitched as "hush money". It might, for example, be compensation, and then some -- a lot some sum -- for the serious injuries Hank sustained. But what if I rephrased my earlier question from "What would you do if you were Hank...." to "What would you do if you were the scriptwriter"? Come up with any endgame you like, so long as it doesn't offend the spirit and dynamics of the TV show.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 05 2012 11:25 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Lemme pray on it a little longer. In the meantime, thanks, Internet: an estimate of the White's self-storage cheddar stack.

Ashie62 Sep 05 2012 08:06 PM Re: Breaking Bad

Cancer for Walt and he takes the fall and somehow the son walks away with the dough and opens Corvette dealerships.

soupcan Sep 06 2012 07:33 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Frayed Knot wrote: ... and "Crystal Blue Persuasion;" I'm kind of shocked THAT hasn't been used before) When Cranston appeared on Letterman in advance of season 5 the always tuned-in Paul Schaefer played that as his walk-on song. You know what? As CBP was playing I thought that I had heard it before in relation to the show. You reminded me that it was in fact when Cranston was on Letterman. Frayed Knot wrote: ...after inhaling 4-1/2 seasons of this series in about ten months, I have to wait another ten just for the final eight episodes. Ditto. On an unrelated note - I was watching a 'King Of Queens' re-run the other night and Cranston was playing Kevin James' neighbor. So odd to see him in a role other than Walter White. Especially one that is so un-badass.

Frayed Knot Sep 06 2012 07:45 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Cranston was also Tim Whatley the dentist on 'Seinfeld' Actually I think he was one of at least two actors they used to play that occasionally recurring role.

soupcan Sep 06 2012 08:05 AM Re: Breaking Bad

You're right, but while Whatley was no Walter White, he was no slouch either. Having threesomes with unconscious patients and calling out anti-Dentites wherever they may have been.

themetfairy Sep 06 2012 08:15 AM Re: Breaking Bad

Frayed Knot wrote: Cranston was also Tim Whatley the dentist on 'Seinfeld' Actually I think he was one of at least two actors they used to play that occasionally recurring role. Plus he was the dad in "Malcolm in the Middle."