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Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference
G-Fafif Nov 21 2011 01:12 PM |
Hofstra is proceeding with the Mets 50th Anniversary Conference, as envisioned and preliminarily planned by Dana Brand. The dates are April 26-28, Thursday through Saturday. I'm working informally with the organizers and offer some details here. If you're interested in presenting a paper or participating on a panel, feel free to get in touch with me. The planning is underway but the agenda's still fluid.
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Ceetar Nov 21 2011 01:21 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I'd consider writing/participating in some way, for sure.
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DocTee Nov 21 2011 04:57 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I received the call for papers and announcment at work today. If Hofstra really sent that to every History Department in the country (and mine is small, and 3000 miles distant) they must really want this to succeed. I'm not on any specific maling list so far as I know, so to have that show up was unusual.
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Ceetar Mar 22 2012 11:46 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Looks like a nice lineup, and quite a few CPFers too.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 31 2012 03:52 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I finished my paper today.
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G-Fafif Mar 31 2012 09:15 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Registration info and generally accurate program here. Hope whoever can make it to Hempstead April 26-28 will indeed make it.
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Ceetar Apr 01 2012 08:46 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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I'm still way behind. It's going to be a busy day.
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Ceetar Apr 01 2012 11:53 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
is double-spacing still the industry standard?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 01 2012 01:32 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
That's how they asked for it.
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Ceetar Apr 01 2012 01:37 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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I don't think I ever saw an official 'this is how we want it' bit.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 02 2012 09:29 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
So who's going to this thing and for what sessions?
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Ceetar Apr 02 2012 09:36 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
yeah, I may actually have shied away to begin with if I knew it was going to cost me $70 (plus the $40 my father is paying to come in for one day) plus the $30 to get there.
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A Boy Named Seo Apr 02 2012 09:31 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
the thing sounds really cool, wish i could pop over for it. good luck to all yall.
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Ceetar Apr 02 2012 09:33 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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This Ben Baumer character is making a case to shed that elusive tag.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 03 2012 05:01 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I think they're screening that flick at the conference. Some movie plays right after I go on in fact.
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Edgy MD Apr 03 2012 05:33 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Definitely. Red hot groupie action.
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themetfairy Apr 03 2012 05:40 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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Heard of it? MK was IN it! (A very small part, at the end of the film.)
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G-Fafif Apr 03 2012 06:41 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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Good, heartfelt film, available on DVD. Trailer here.
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G-Fafif Apr 20 2012 12:32 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
It's next week!
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Ceetar Apr 20 2012 01:02 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
oh, should I register?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2012 01:04 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
20 minutes summarizing a few points in the paper, with a powerpoint. Haven't written the speech or powered the point yet tho. I'm scuffling!
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G-Fafif Apr 20 2012 01:13 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I'm Reading Aloud, like Dickey.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2012 08:45 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Still scrambling to finish my shit in time. I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet but it sucks that I'm breaking my ass to do all this shit, etc etc only to be charged $75 to present it and at that rate can't afford to invite my family or friends to watch it in good conscience.
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Ceetar Apr 25 2012 08:52 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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Yeah, is this normal for academic conferences? Not my forte. I never sent in my registration, I'm sure that'll go smoothly tomorrow right? It's been a while since I rode the LIRR regularly, but probably the Hempstead line to the Hempstead line. transfer at Jamaica (obviously)
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Ceetar Apr 25 2012 08:53 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Change at Jamaica:
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2012 08:58 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Hofstra lady said you can go to Minola or Hempstead and get a free "Blue Beetle" bus to the Student Center. Service does;t look all that frequent though so I'll probably get a cab.
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seawolf17 Apr 26 2012 08:20 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Only coming in for Saturday; hoping to get there around lunchtime. Speaking on Panel X-C at 3:15!
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Ceetar Apr 26 2012 02:11 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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ditto, which means not listening to yours.
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Ceetar Apr 26 2012 05:45 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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Edgy MD Apr 26 2012 05:59 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Need more butts in those seats.
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Ceetar Apr 26 2012 07:18 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
yeah. the morning sessions were more populated, but not 'crowded' by any means.
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SteveJRogers Apr 26 2012 08:00 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Sorry...can't resist the urge...
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G-Fafif Apr 26 2012 09:21 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Nice CPF turnout for the first day: JCL nailed Seaver coming and going, Ceetar lent his Optimism to the lunchtime bullpen session, batmags brought me the most thoughtful of Met talismans and I listened to a 46-pitch bottom of the ninth in what amounted to class-cutting. Looking forward to Seawolf joining the fun Saturday and regret that he, Cee and I will be on simultaneously.
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Ceetar Apr 26 2012 09:28 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I was actually disappointed by my afternoon conference. How'd I end up in the Yankee fan one? hmm..
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 26 2012 09:50 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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Thanks for the support guys! I thought I did pretty good considering how unprepared I felt.But for whatever reason I wasn't even a little nervous and given my expectations I was pleased with the attendance. I loved the Dave Kingman guy. And the first guy in my session probably shouldn't have read his whole paper but I thought made a great case for the "Midnight Massacre" being a moment when the fan expectations of ownership of sporting teams in general reached an inflection point. Great insight into the Seaver-Grant dynamic. This was my first viewing of that Met documentary and I have to say I don't feel that the characters they chose to follow necessarily deserved the sympathetic treatment they got, and I'm not sure what I did to deserve to have to watch them for as long as I stuck it out. I couldn't stay till the Miniknight part, so no reflection on that but the "girls" and their behavior sort of embarrassed me. It was creepy and I'm not sure it was supposed to be.
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Edgy MD Apr 26 2012 09:51 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Get your presentation on video?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 26 2012 09:56 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I don't know. They had a camera up there at first but they took it away.
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DocTee Apr 27 2012 08:38 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Getting some national press. From AP (via SF Gate):
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Ceetar Apr 27 2012 08:40 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
straight from the press release, but that's cool. I love they included the pronunciation of Hempstead.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 27 2012 08:56 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Are you not supposed to pronounce the P in Hempstead? If so, I've been saying it wrong for decades although I rarely speak aloud about Hempstead.
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Ceetar Apr 27 2012 09:02 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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beats me. I think I usually sneak the p in there too.
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G-Fafif Apr 27 2012 10:06 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Ed Kranepool not thrilled Mets traded Jerry Koosman for "Jerry Orosco". Added "Joey Foy" skipped around the clubhouse high on something and we traded Amos Otis to get him. Rusty Staub not impressed by Mets' acquisition of Ellis Valentine.
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 27 2012 10:23 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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Nor was Rusty impressed that between relievers Jeff Reardon and Neil Allen, Reardon was the one traded for Valentine. Eddie K noted that the two best centerfielders in the AL were Paul Blair and Amos Otis, and the Mets traded both of them, getting nothing in return. Eddie K also said that the Reds shouldn't have been allowed to dictate to the Mets who they'd give up to acquire Seaver. The Mets should have dictated the terms of any trade for Seaver.
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G-Fafif Apr 27 2012 10:34 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Essentially, Eddie K was on fire.
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 27 2012 10:56 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Eddie K (who, these days, is looking more and more like fellow Bronxer Robert Klein) is too old to give a damn what anybody thinks about him. Especially dead people.
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Edgy MD Apr 28 2012 07:10 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
The problem is that he's doing great in hindsight, and while I have no doubt that between his tenure in baseball and securities, he has some idea of valuation, we have no idea what kind of executive he'd've made. Because he was either disinterested in joining a front office at the entry level --- area scout level he'd probably initially get offered --- or he was too much a crank to be attractive to teams.
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Ceetar Apr 28 2012 10:14 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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Ceetar Apr 28 2012 03:42 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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Ceetar Apr 28 2012 03:51 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
And I realize now that I've left I meant to say hello to seawolf and forgot. oops.
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Edgy MD Apr 28 2012 06:44 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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The South Hempstead kids who went to my high school referred to themselves as "Hempers," not "Hemmers."
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 28 2012 10:18 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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The New Yorker
Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/s ... z1tOpjzrny
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G-Fafif Apr 29 2012 04:01 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Third day so good that I was sorry to realize the whole thing was ending, which is saying something because the planning portion made me long for the moment it would be over. I guess Hofstra spinning off a Mets College would be too much to ask for.
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Ceetar Apr 29 2012 06:32 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I think I missed that batmags was there at all.
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Ashie62 Apr 29 2012 09:32 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Was the conference more academic or anecdotal?
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seawolf17 Apr 29 2012 11:12 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I only caught the end -- from lunch yesterday through my panel -- but what I saw was 75% "anecdotal," 25% "academic." But that was just a small percentage of the overall package.
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Ceetar Apr 29 2012 11:49 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
well where's this photo then?! I posted photos of everyone I saw! ;-)
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Ceetar Apr 29 2012 11:51 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
and yeah, I'd say more anecdotal than academic. Although those lines can be blurred a bit when we're talking about the Mets I suppose. JCL's was more academic, mine was mixed. There was a lot of "this is my story of becoming/being a Mets fan" which aren't necessarily bad, but not necessarily interesting either.
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G-Fafif Apr 29 2012 01:17 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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I think a lot of the presentations were intended with academic aspirations (and some stuck to them) but the tone in general shifted to the anecdotal by Saturday. Which was fine...it was Saturday, and it was the Mets. I gave my talk a slightly hifalutin title -- "The Shared Mets Fan Language: How Mets Fans Speak to One Another" -- and tried to keep it in a fairly academic context, citing the following: • Recurring Precedent • Proprietary Nostalgia • Unbroken Family Tradition • Media Griots • Positive Self-Image But when you're talking about Casey Stengel shouting "Viva La France!" for Danny Napoleon and reciting the lyrics to the Rheingold jingle, it's hard to be too terribly tweedy about the whole thing. Academic or anecdotal, I had the hell impressed out of me by just about every presenter.
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Edgy MD Apr 29 2012 01:18 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I dreamed of putting together a presentation on Kingman, referencing turning points in his career, psychological papers, anecdotes of baseball instructors, and data on career arcs --- making the case that if a team studied up on the archetypal psyche of the insecure giant, they would be able to coax the Hall of Fame career out of the next Kingman that came along.
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SteveJRogers Apr 29 2012 05:10 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
From the, gee I should have asked this back on Wednesday department, any chance any of the panels were recorded for Hofstra's library, and possible non-student/employee viewing?
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Ceetar Apr 29 2012 05:21 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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that'd be nice. I know they did record _some_ stuff but I don't know who or what they did. I know mine wasn't. I've got my written stuff up but that's not the same.
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seawolf17 Apr 30 2012 09:26 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I'm trying to repost the photo from JCL, but now I can't seem to get it; the page comes up blank.
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Ceetar Apr 30 2012 09:29 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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seawolf17 Apr 30 2012 10:13 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Hey, there I am.
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seawolf17 Apr 30 2012 10:19 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
And here I am again, courtesy of Shannon Shark at Mets Police:
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Ceetar Apr 30 2012 11:35 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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Shot of me in the 'in panel' shot there too.
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G-Fafif Apr 30 2012 12:51 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Also bumped into, at the Friday night cocktail reception: Mr. & Mrs. Swan Swan H. (Unless I'm confusing his real name with his screen name, but I don't think I am.)
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G-Fafif May 01 2012 11:10 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Paper here.
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G-Fafif May 02 2012 08:58 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
A little Hofstra video...
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batmagadanleadoff May 03 2012 12:46 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I snapped the photo below at a presentation on Mets uniforms, conducted by Michael Cesarano, who created this web page on the UMDB, about Mets uniform history. Cesarano is displaying a Mets prototype uniform, never worn, presumably from the mid -80's based on the racing stripes (Cesarano never dated the uni), and very similar to Expos then contemporary garb.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2012 01:19 PM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
Sorry I missed his show, he knows a lot about unit and is a swell guy irl.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2012 08:12 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
I put up my paper and powerpoint here.
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Edgy MD May 09 2012 08:26 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
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Great stuff. Here's a money quote on Grant if ever I saw one.
I hope you got some laughs on that one. M. Donald and Alice Waters Grant were married 66 years.
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batmagadanleadoff May 09 2012 10:01 AM Re: Hofstra 50th Anniversary Conference |
The Faith and Fear blog has been so active lately, that Greg's comprehensive review of the Hofstra 50th might've been overlooked -- buried in the celebration of the Valdespin Mets.
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