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Non-Tender Day

Edgy MD Dec 12 2011 07:58 AM

In addition to Pelf and Paulino, I guess Torres has to be offered a contract --- and presumably will. Adam Rubin notes that a non-tender of Paulino would get the roster down to 40, which I guess they have to get done in the next few days in order to add Rauch and Francisco.

Edgy MD Dec 12 2011 10:57 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

Manny Acosta, also a candy date for a non-tender.

smg58 Dec 12 2011 01:30 PM Re: Non-Tender Day

Acosta earned his million or so. There are worse relievers making more money. The Tigers are dropping Will Rhymes, who's not even arb-eligible. The 2010 version would be an asset at second base.

Edgy MD Dec 12 2011 01:36 PM Re: Non-Tender Day

Minor league deal, maybe.

Vic Sage Dec 12 2011 02:37 PM Re: Non-Tender Day

we should bring him in for our Song Parody contest.

smg58 Dec 12 2011 07:50 PM Re: Non-Tender Day

Joe Saunders joins the ranks of the free agents. The Diamondbacks recent acquisition of Trevor Cahill from Oakland made him disposable.

Edgy MD Dec 13 2011 04:24 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

And... Ronny Paulino and Mike Baxter join the ranks of ballplayers looking for work. Baxter's dad joins Nelson Figueroa's among the ranks of Met fan fathers of ballplayers who come to hate the Mets. Other namey names wanting work this morning: IF Jeff Keppinger C Koyie Hill RP Hong-Chih Kuo RP Jose Mijares SP Micah Owings SP Jo-Jo Reyes ("Mets Sign Reyes!") SP Joe Saunders (really?) 1B Luke Scott RP Andy Sonnanstine OF Ryan Spilborghs IF Ryan Theriot C Eli Whiteside Tony Gwynn, Jr. and James Loney get contracts from the suddenly cash-flush Dodgers. Gwynn got two years!

seawolf17 Dec 13 2011 06:53 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

Saunders didn't exactly light the world on fire last year, but I'd give him a Young-Capuano deal.

metsmarathon Dec 13 2011 07:01 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

owings would be a perfect fit for this team.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2011 07:01 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

Ryan Theriot played 91 games at shortstop in 2011 (and 35 at second base.) .271/.321/.342.26 doubles, 1 homer in 442 at bats. I was thinking that the Mets don't have any big leaguers with shortstop experience other than Tejada. (Or am I overlooking someone?) Theriot will probably be too expensive to play backup, but I figured I'd point out his name anyway.

Edgy MD Dec 13 2011 07:06 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

seawolf17 wrote: Saunders didn't exactly light the world on fire last year, but I'd give him a Young-Capuano deal. I think a 3.69 ERA in Arizona over 212 innings is a pretty darn good year. As he doesn't strike out too many guys, I'm not sure how much of it is illusory, but it's not far off his career performance, and he keeps his walks down. If he'd accept a Young-Capuano deal, I'd be pretty surprised. Micah Owings? How do you tell a guy to get lost after he went 8-0 for you?

Frayed Knot Dec 13 2011 07:10 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

metsmarathon wrote: owings would be a perfect fit for this team. IIRC he can hit.

Edgy MD Dec 13 2011 07:20 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

Is it Valadius who digs hitting pitchers?

Lefty Specialist Dec 13 2011 07:28 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

Frayed Knot wrote: metsmarathon wrote: owings would be a perfect fit for this team. IIRC he can hit. Lifetime .286 BA and .820 OPS. Yes, I'd say he can hit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 13 2011 07:40 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

Good to see Luke Scott unemployed.

seawolf17 Dec 13 2011 07:44 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

Edgy DC wrote: Is it Valadius who digs hitting pitchers? Valadius fellates Owings every chance he gets. I think his head would explode if the Mets signed him.

metirish Dec 13 2011 07:51 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

seawolf17 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Is it Valadius who digs hitting pitchers? Valadius fellates Owings every chance he gets. I think his head would explode if the Mets signed him. He would qualify that with a " four years to late" remark now I think. Owings was the hitter he would deride Minaya for not getting.

Vic Sage Dec 13 2011 08:39 AM Re: Non-Tender Day

Arizona Diamondbacks - Micah Owings (RHP - 29), Joe Saunders (LHP -30) = both are useful starters, but Owings can PH, too. Baltimore Orioles - Jo-Jo Reyes (LHP, 27), Luke Scott (LH 1b/LF, 33) = nope Boston Red Sox - Rich Hill (LHP, 31) = perennially injured Chicago Cubs - Koyie Hill (Sw C, 32) = no bat at all Colorado Rockies - Cole Garner (Rh Of, 26), Ryan Spilborghs (Rh OF, 32) = Garner is AAAA player, but Spilborghs is useful Rhed OF bat Detroit Tigers - Will Rhymes (Lh 2B, 29) - useful, can hit a little Miami Marlins - Clay Hensley (RhRP, 32) - useful bullpen depth Kansas City Royals - Aaron Laffey (LHP, 27) - wild, still youngish Lefty; lefties can develop late Los Angeles Dodgers - Hong-Chih Kuo (LhRP, 31) - oft-injured but effective when healthy lefty reliever; can set up Minnesota Twins - Jose Mijares (LhRP, 27) - LOOGY with weight issues; can be effective San Diego Padres - Jeremy Hermida (Lh OF, 28) - never quite made it San Francisco Giants - Jeff Keppinger (Rh 2b/If, 32) - decent BA has made him overrated Washington Nationals - Doug Slaten (LhRP, 32) - another LOOGY of this crop, we should keep an eye on SPers: Saunders, Owings, Laffey RPers: Hensley, Mijares, Kuo IFers: Rhymes OFers: Spilborghs

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 13 2011 01:24 PM Re: Non-Tender Day

A lot of these guys are being non-tendered with the intent of re-signing them to club-friendly contracts; the scuttlebutt is that both Owings and Saunders are among these. I wouldn't mind either, but Kuo is nasty when operable-- like, 10-11 K/9 nasty-- and he can start for stretches. I'm down for a hugely performance-loaded signing there.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 13 2011 05:49 PM Re: Non-Tender Day

Baxter not necessarily a goner, as per Rubin. Sandy Alderson said he hoped to bring back outfielder Mike Baxter on a minor league deal, even though the Queens product was cut loose at Tuesday's non-tender deadline along with Ronny Paulino... "We needed the roster spot," Alderson said about Baxter being dropped from the 40-man roster. "Right now we've still got roster issues... we're pretty tight right now."

smg58 Dec 13 2011 08:06 PM Re: Non-Tender Day

Theriot's relatively weak arm plays better at second than short, but he's not awful. I'm sure he wants assurance of a starting job, though. I'd be interested in Kuo at a lottery ticket price.