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John Olerud, HOF snub?

Nymr83 Dec 29 2011 10:57 AM

THE GREAT JOHN OLERUD Well, not really, but this writer convincingly states that he was better than Jim Rice. And when was the last time an article was written about John Olerud?

Frayed Knot Dec 29 2011 11:19 AM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

I wouldn't put Olerud in, but then I wouldn't have put Rice in either.

Gwreck Dec 29 2011 12:56 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

This is the problem with lowering standards. Jim Rice was a horrible selection for the Hall of Fame, but now people have a new "low" to compare borderline/undeserving players to. See also: Sutter, Bruce; Dawson, Andre.

G-Fafif Dec 29 2011 02:24 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

"Because he's John Olerud" would be my standard for voting him in to the Hall of Fame or anything he wanted.

seawolf17 Dec 29 2011 06:54 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

This is the problem with lowering standards. Jim Rice was a horrible selection for the Hall of Fame, but now people have a new "low" to compare borderline/undeserving players to. See also: Sutter, Bruce; Dawson, Andre. Rice is tied for 29th in MVP Shares. Every player above him who's NOT in the HoF is not yet eligible (Bonds, Pujols, ARod, Rose, Griffey), except for Dave Parker, who I think should be in as well. I'm not saying that he's not "borderline," necessarily, but he's definitely on the correct side of that line now.

Edgy MD Dec 29 2011 07:18 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

Award shares are fun, but they're not particularly scientific.

RealityChuck Dec 29 2011 07:23 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

Edgy DC wrote: Award shares are fun, but they're not particularly scientific. Neither is determining who gets into the Hall of Fame. Nor should it be.

seawolf17 Dec 29 2011 07:35 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

RealityChuck wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Award shares are fun, but they're not particularly scientific. Neither is determining who gets into the Hall of Fame. Nor should it be. Which is why I think award shares -- at least for my imaginary "vote" -- are important. Did a guy dominate enough that he got recognized repeatedly among the best players in the league? Then that counts.

Edgy MD Dec 29 2011 07:45 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

RealityChuck wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Award shares are fun, but they're not particularly scientific. Neither is determining who gets into the Hall of Fame. Nor should it be. Presented as accumulated comparative data, they are represented as having a scientific basis. Which is why I think award shares -- at least for my imaginary "vote" -- are important. Did a guy dominate enough that he got recognized repeatedly among the best players in the league? Then that counts. Well then we get to the jump-off-the-Empire-State situation. It kind of washes your hands of having to think about it yourself.

metsmarathon Dec 29 2011 07:52 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

be interesting to see what would happen if you somehow did award shares based on WAR. i don't know what the formulation would be, but it'd be interesting. i'm thinking of something a little more intresting than just a linear attribution of points to the top ten players in the league. i picture mathematics being involved. damn. now i'm going to be trying to think up a way to do this for like the next month... too bad i don't have any training coming up!

seawolf17 Dec 29 2011 08:25 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

Edgy DC wrote: Which is why I think award shares -- at least for my imaginary "vote" -- are important. Did a guy dominate enough that he got recognized repeatedly among the best players in the league? Then that counts. Well then we get to the jump-off-the-Empire-State situation. It kind of washes your hands of having to think about it yourself. Wrong. It's confirming what I remember, and validating my opinion that Jim Rice was a dominant player in the AL from the late 70s into the mid 80s.

Nymr83 Dec 29 2011 08:28 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

Whether a guy dominated and whether the writers who vote for the awards were recognizing that dominance are not the same question. "award shares" answers the 2nd question not the first.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2011 08:33 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

Why should the Hall of Fame be scientific? And hell, what's with all those stupid numbers, anyway-- this isn't mathball! I like Wily Mo Pena's look, swing, and general mien. That Pagan beard still makes me blush with envy, and Hrabosky sure could hit that glove like a champ. Also, Doug Flynn has a nice voice. Can't we find room for these guys in there, elitists?

Edgy MD Dec 29 2011 08:37 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

Rice got 3.15 MVP shares, good for 29th, sure, but the likes of Craig Biggio got 1.02, good for 233rd. Given a chance to add one or the other's career to my organization, I don't hesitate in picking Biggio's.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2011 08:58 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

Lou Whitaker got even fewer, and I'd probably take him over Biggio. Not the writers, though. In a way, though, isn't it kind of appropriately head-up-ass to use flawed BBWAA MVP voting results to determine who gets votes in a flawed BBWAA HOF process?

metirish Dec 30 2011 06:58 AM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

MVP shares?, if you got to root that deep into the bullshit bag to validate a guy then he's just not a HOF player.

Nymr83 Dec 30 2011 08:42 AM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

metirish wrote: MVP shares?, if you got to root that deep into the bullshit bag to validate a guy then he's just not a HOF player. Laughed out loud at "the bullshit bag"

Ashie62 Dec 30 2011 04:50 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

How about the very very great vs. the very very good? I guess that's subjective also.

Centerfield Jan 03 2012 11:43 AM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

G-Fafif wrote: "Because he's John Olerud" would be my standard for voting him in to the Hall of Fame or anything he wanted. Bravo Greg.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 03 2012 12:12 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

How many here knew that John Olerud was originally drafted by the NY Mets?

metsmarathon Jan 03 2012 01:43 PM Re: John Olerud, HOF snub?

so i created an awards share generator. i'll call it SimMVP for now. basically what i did was take the top so many players in a league for a given year, and run a monte carlo simulation for the WAR value for their performance with a normal distribution having a standard deviation of 0.667 WAR, and ranking the players. for each of 4000 monte carlo runs, i mocked up a mvp ballot whereby the top player gets 10 points, the 2nd gets 9, etc etc etc. award share is determined hte same as it is ob bbref, total points divided by maximum theoretical value of 10*4000. it's cumbersome, and really slows up my computer, and i currently have no way of tabulating results for multiple players, and do not want to run it for individual players any more than i already have. but based on this toy, i get 1.59 MVP shares for rice, and 1.61 award shares for olerud. well, that's what i get if i allow pitchers to be eligible for the award. and since they are, that's what i get. no, i don't want to do it for just hitters. i could, i just don't really want to. did i mention that it's time comsuming? i can also generate a notional voting result based on a voting population of 40 persons. using this toy, i've got jose reyes 10th in the 2011 NL MVP vote with 25% of the vote [table:22u2l0sm][tr:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]player[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]1[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]2[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]3[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]4[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]5[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]6[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]7[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]8[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]9[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]10[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]off[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]SimMVP%[/td:22u2l0sm][/tr:22u2l0sm][tr:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]Matt 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Carpenter[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]1[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]1[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]38[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]1%[/td:22u2l0sm][/tr:22u2l0sm][tr:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]Cole Hamels[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]-[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]1[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]1[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]38[/td:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]1%[/td:22u2l0sm][/tr:22u2l0sm][tr:22u2l0sm][td:22u2l0sm]Daniel 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