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Mets attendance
Under 2.0 million | 8 votes |
2.1 million | 5 votes |
2.2 million | 4 votes |
2.3 million | 2 votes |
2.4 million | 2 votes |
2.5 million | 0 votes |
2.6 million | 0 votes |
2.7 million | 2 votes |
2.8 million | 0 votes |
2.9 million | 0 votes |
3.0 million | 0 votes |
Over 3.0 million | 1 votes |
Edgy MD Dec 29 2011 07:01 PM |
Win, loss, loss, win
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metirish Dec 29 2011 07:08 PM Re: Mets attendance |
it's going to be a disaster , under 2 million.
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Fman99 Dec 29 2011 07:13 PM Re: Mets attendance |
No way, they'll draw well over 3 million, they're going to win the FUCKING PENNANT DON'T YOU KNOW.
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Edgy MD Dec 29 2011 07:22 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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I'm impressed by your commitment. Haven't finished under two since 1997.
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metsmarathon Dec 29 2011 07:30 PM Re: Mets attendance |
i believe the actual gate attendance last year certainly well below two million, but what is reported is ticket sales.
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Edgy MD Dec 29 2011 07:43 PM Re: Mets attendance |
Well, there typically isn't much attendance until mid-May anyhow. So the difference between drawing 13 vs. 18 in the early part of the season isn't as important as drawing 22 vs. 40 mid-summer. So a good start could help.
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Nymr83 Dec 29 2011 08:26 PM Re: Mets attendance |
I can see them salvaging 2.1 with late season moves like "bring the kids 2 for 1" and the old $5 nights like they had at Shea. The team is going to be BAAAAD and they'll soon realize that lower ticket prices and a prayer for concessions revenue may be their best bet.
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Edgy MD Dec 29 2011 08:32 PM Re: Mets attendance |
Well, they've already lowered ticket prices.
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Nymr83 Dec 29 2011 08:37 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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But when the losing comences people wont see last year as a baseline when looking for a bargain, I think the team will have to lower them beyond their listed prices at the beginning of this year.
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Ceetar Dec 29 2011 08:47 PM Re: Mets attendance |
It's so hard to tell because it's so results driven. They're presumably healthy so a hot start from Ike and Duda especially coupled with Santana staying on the field could lead to April excitement and prompt an attendance drive. (There's also the idea that 2013 renewals get dibs on the All-Star Game, and you know they're going to hype that very fact in the 'buy the rest of September' marketing drive.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2011 08:54 PM Re: Mets attendance |
As Edge said, it's been a WHILE since ticket sales were sub-2 million, and all but ten teams topped it last year (Christ, the Marlins drew 1.5). Ticket prices are comparable to the movies, or beach pricing, or other summer family/date/group outing options. If the weather is nice, a day at the bargain-basement-tickets-priced-to-move ballpark makes for a nicer outing than a trip to see Elongated Man: The Movie or Saw 7: Murdering the Chicks From Those WB Shows in Increasingly Lurid/Creative Ways.
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MFS62 Dec 29 2011 08:59 PM Re: Mets attendance |
I think this team will be very watchable.
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Nymr83 Dec 29 2011 09:06 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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The movies have a huge advantage all summer long: air-conditioning
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batmagadanleadoff Dec 29 2011 09:11 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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The S&P weighs in:
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/2 ... nds-sours/
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Edgy MD Dec 29 2011 09:25 PM Re: Mets attendance |
That's what prompted this thread.
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Benjamin Grimm Dec 30 2011 04:18 AM Re: Mets attendance |
I have no idea what the attendance is going to be, but I would love to see it as close to zero as possible.
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Edgy MD Dec 30 2011 04:37 AM Re: Mets attendance |
The cut-off-the-Wilpons'-nose position gains a new adherent.
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dgwphotography Dec 30 2011 04:50 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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This.
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metirish Dec 30 2011 05:29 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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Yeah,I think it's going to take a combination of things to force the Wilpon's out and attendance is s big one.
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Edgy MD Dec 30 2011 06:42 AM Re: Mets attendance |
And a few more.
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TransMonk Dec 30 2011 07:44 AM Re: Mets attendance |
I went with 2.1 million. I'm also rooting for zero.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 30 2011 08:05 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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If you don't want to put any money into their pockets directly, you can always avoid Stubhub and buy from a secondary market like eBay, or a friend of a friend; a bit of a cheat, but if your Monkier Half has never seen Citi (and likely won't for some time), it's livable, no? I'm not 100 percent certain, but I'm leaning heavily towards not buying any tickets this year. (I'm pretty sure BetterHalfer will be okay with it.)
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Benjamin Grimm Dec 30 2011 08:24 AM Re: Mets attendance |
I may go once. (Which would be as many times as I went in 2010 and 2011.) I saw a few road games in 2010, in Baltimore and Puerto Rico. Maybe I'll satisfy my Mets fix in 2012 (if I have one) in DC.
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Edgy MD Dec 30 2011 08:30 AM Re: Mets attendance |
Good luck. But fan revolt pretty much never, ever works.
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Ceetar Dec 30 2011 08:36 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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You've got the Mets mid-summer marketing campaign all written. "Buy Delta or Ceasar Club tickets! It's Air Conditioned!" Not rooting for 0. rooting for 0 is rooting for the Mets to fail. I'm not rooting for the Mets to fail. Especially when we don't know the color of the grass on the other side of the fence. It could be worse. I'd rather the Mets make a magical run and the Wilpons are solvent in 2013 then the Mets suck for 3-4 years and they're eventually forced to sell and it then takes even the most magical of owners 5 years to dig out of the dept and negative profit/revenue ratio it pushes them into.
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Benjamin Grimm Dec 30 2011 08:40 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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Well, I never made any kind of promise. I know that if I go once instead of twice, or nonce instead of once, it's not going to make any real difference. I want the Mets attendance to be zero. If I go to one game with my kids, they can still potentially draw a total of 3 for the 2012 season, and I'd be quite happy with that.
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Ceetar Dec 30 2011 08:45 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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well, they probably all have like a 1.8 commitment.
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TransMonk Dec 30 2011 09:05 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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We got to Citi in 2010, so we've both experienced it. Monkier Half actually loves the ballpark. It would be hard to make a trip to New York in the summer and not sneak in a Mets game. The last few times I've gone on pleasure trips to NYC, the trips have revolved around Mets games. We'll see. We've also talked about waiting until 2013 and maybe looking into the All-Star Game. Hopefully, the Wilpons have given up the ghost by then.
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themetfairy Dec 30 2011 09:34 AM Re: Mets attendance |
I'll go this year. Not as often as in the past, but I'll go. D-Dad loves Opening Day, I'm liking G-Fafif's tradition of being there for closing day, MK likes spending his birthday there, and there are the GKR events which are always fun. And Banner Day, of course, if they ever let us know when they're having it.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 30 2011 10:18 AM Re: Mets attendance |
If I buy at all, I'm buying eBay or otherwise direct-from-ticketholder. (StubHub kicks money back the Mets' way, which I dislike on principle under normal circumstances.)
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Fman99 Dec 30 2011 10:22 AM Re: Mets attendance |
I've always only gone to a few games per year, living 300 miles away and all. I'll be going at least once, with Fboy, who is now a card carrying member of the Mets Kids Club. Maybe we go twice this year, in 2011 we saw them once in Florida and twice in Queens.
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batmagadanleadoff Dec 30 2011 11:07 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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I agree there, but the small percentage of the transaction fee that's kicked back to the Mets won't make or break 'em. What I did dislike about buying off of StubHUb is that (so I heard) some of the tickets the site offered were team controlled unsold tickets, rather than secondary market tickets. So buying a Met-owned ticket on StubHub was like buying directly from the Mets ticket office. Anyway, the Mets will use a different online service in 2012, right?
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Gwreck Dec 30 2011 11:17 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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Yeah, from an artificially inflated price. The quality of the product presented and the pricepoint are still way off.
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Edgy MD Dec 30 2011 11:22 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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Ceetar Dec 30 2011 11:29 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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Yankees lowered ticket prices too. (in a very similar manner if I recall) That's more a factor of the economy than the state of the team. I'm not really convinced they're way off from the quality of product (meaning a baseball game at a terrific stadium, not the team itself). I think this is a factor my age. i didn't buy tickets in the early 90s or before that. my ticket stub for an Upper in 2000 against the Giants says $9. the comparable prom reserved seating is very comparable a whole 12 years later.
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Gwreck Dec 30 2011 11:30 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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I heard those rumors too. I don't know if anyone proved it definitively but I believe it.
The primary market sales will be through Tickets.com which is...get ready for it...a wholly-owned subsidiary of MLB Advanced Media.
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Gwreck Dec 30 2011 11:38 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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1. "Quality of product" = the team you're paying to see. A nice stadium makes for a good experience but people are always going to show up (or not show up) based on the quality of the team, irrespective of the quality of the stadium. 2. Promenade Reserved tickets are $28 (marquee) and $20 (classic) for 2012. I don't see those as all that comparable to a Shea Upper Reserved Seat at $9 in August 2000 at Shea. 3. In fairness, the promenade level is not where the Mets have their big pricing problems, anyway.
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Gwreck Dec 30 2011 11:40 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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That's the plan in the Gwreck household. Realistically, I know I will be going to opening day, Reyes' first game back and Beltran's first game back, but aside from those three, I'm making no other Mets commitments. It was very freeing to be able to change how I was going to spend my entertainment budget for 2012.
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Edgy MD Dec 30 2011 11:46 AM Re: Mets attendance |
Shit, you guys. This is the worst boycott ever.
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metirish Dec 30 2011 11:48 AM Re: Mets attendance |
Lorcan has been asking about going to games , he loves the Mets 'cos" the Mets never lose", if only.
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Gwreck Dec 30 2011 11:50 AM Re: Mets attendance |
It's more of a "spending slowdown." Even in the worst years I was still going to Mets games and I don't think that will change for 2012, the first year in a while that I will be entering the season expecting a last-place finish.
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Ashie62 Dec 30 2011 12:09 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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True enough..TV is "free" 2.2 million
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metsguyinmichigan Dec 30 2011 03:19 PM Re: Mets attendance |
Easy for me to say, being so far from New York. But I wouldn't want to let disagreements with owners get in the way of my enjoying my team.
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Gwreck Dec 30 2011 03:30 PM Re: Mets attendance |
I don't think anyone here is renouncing the Mets (certainly not me)...but it's safe to say that the Wilpons have indeed gotten in the way of enjoying the Mets.
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Benjamin Grimm Dec 30 2011 03:38 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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Yes, and the best way we can contribute to that outcome (in a small way) is by staying away from Citi Field as much as possible.
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G-Fafif Dec 30 2011 03:40 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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I'm almost certain I won't be attending any postseason games there in 2012.
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Ashie62 Dec 30 2011 04:45 PM Re: Mets attendance |
Resons to be cheerful Part 1. "almost"
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themetfairy Dec 30 2011 05:14 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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This
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Ceetar Dec 30 2011 07:45 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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We're also all commenting on the supposedly last place team on a holiday weekend in cold December. If you have the chance to see Wright and Duda and Ike smack some home runs in May, you gonna turn around as say "No! Fred kicked my baby!"
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 31 2011 11:08 AM Re: Mets attendance |
Prolly make it to the same halfdozen I made the last few years. They could ne interesting.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 05 2012 10:08 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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So, I was in Queens for lunch and a few errands today, and I was driving the baby around to get her to nap, and I ended up giving blood at Citi for tickets. Loophole!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 05 2012 10:19 PM Re: Mets attendance |
Nice. Did you take the traditional needle or did you let K-Rod punch you in the face?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 05 2012 10:44 PM Re: Mets attendance |
Neither. Actually, entrusted care of my arm to a "friend" of management. I'll be bleeding for a while, yet.
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dgwphotography Jan 06 2012 06:59 AM Re: Mets attendance |
If I go at all, it will only to work the GKR events - I won't bail on them.
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Ashie62 Jan 12 2012 12:01 PM Re: Mets attendance |
Any ideas folks? If you buy a package this year do you get a crack at the All Star game at Citi, 2013?
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Edgy MD Jan 12 2012 12:03 PM Re: Mets attendance |
Michael Kay balls-out predicting 55-60 wins for the Mets.
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Ceetar Jan 12 2012 12:04 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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gotta officially announce it first, but I imagine that will be based on seniority and ownership of 2013 season tickets, yes. the Mets without a doubt will package an end of the season package geared towards renewing in 2013 with this carrot. (Michael Kay is an idiot)
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metirish Jan 12 2012 12:04 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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I would think a premium package?
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Edgy MD Jan 12 2012 12:29 PM Re: Mets attendance |
Do the Mets get any kaching from hosting the All Star Game?
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Ceetar Jan 12 2012 12:38 PM Re: Mets attendance |
at the very least they get the ticket sales from selling a game out at World Series prices including all the luxury suites. That's probably well over $5million just from ticket sales. (I think I paid $200 for a my SRO ticket strip in 2006 in Pittsburgh..)
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Edgy MD Jan 12 2012 12:45 PM Re: Mets attendance |
I'm just looking at the game itself relative to the balance sheets.
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Ceetar Jan 12 2012 01:07 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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other than the ticket/stadium related stuff, I think all All-Star Profits benefit MLB Pension fund.
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Gwreck Jan 12 2012 07:19 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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Nope. From the Major Leage Constitution, Article X, Section 2:
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Ceetar Jan 12 2012 07:21 PM Re: Mets attendance |
uh oh, could they actually _lose_ money from the game? heh.
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Gwreck Jan 12 2012 07:30 PM Re: Mets attendance |
They essentially get 1/30th of everything. The MLB central fund receives money from a whole host of sources including, most significantly, national TV rights money. After paying certain expenses and keeping a strategic reserve, the Central Fund makes annual payments of equal amounts to each team.
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Fman99 Jan 12 2012 07:51 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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BOC
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jwmann2 Jan 21 2012 01:58 AM Re: Mets attendance |
Under 2 million is not a hard stretch. The Reds did it in 2007 and the Royals seem to do it every year. Then again, I doubt the Mets could fall under that playing in New York.
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Ceetar Jan 21 2012 06:47 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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A lot will have to do with where they are in July once the weather gets warm.
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MFS62 Jan 21 2012 11:53 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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If that's true, do you realize how much money it cost me? I bet a MFY fan that Kay had no balls.* Later * Not borrowed from Animal House. Paraphrased from Ghostbusters.
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Ashie62 Jan 21 2012 01:32 PM Re: Mets attendance |
Guessing the Mets Vegas o/a will be 69 1/2
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Ceetar Jan 21 2012 09:03 PM Re: Mets attendance |
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Could be. Easy money. Odds to win WS at 60:1 on "bodog"
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Edgy MD May 10 2012 08:45 AM Re: Mets attendance |
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I figure that we could re-check after every homestand.
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Edgy MD Sep 24 2012 09:51 AM Re: Mets attendance |
Current attendance, as per baseball-reference: 2,141,049.
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