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Guess who died in 2012

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 01 2012 06:11 AM

Pivotal Burmese civil society leader Nay Win Maung has died of a heart attack, aged 50.

Nymr83
Jan 02 2012 06:26 AM
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Who?? Did you google "dead" just to find someone to start the thread for?

Edgy MD
Jan 02 2012 06:46 AM
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Hey, man, civil society is awesome. We are so blessed by it that we don't think about it until we experience its absence, nor consider that it's ertainly not human civilization's default condition.

Go, civil society! Well done, Nay Win Maung! Have a civil year in his honor. Even on the internet.

Frayed Knot
Jan 02 2012 07:27 AM
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Besides, a Burmese civil rights leader dying of natural causes is a pretty notable thing all by itself.

Nymr83
Jan 02 2012 08:05 AM
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You guys are seriously saying you'd heard of him before this post? Ok, fine, it just seemed like an excuse to start the 2012 thread to me!

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 02 2012 08:27 AM
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Nymr83 wrote:
Who?? Did you google "dead" just to find someone to start the thread for?


Well, um, yes.

bmfc1
Jan 02 2012 09:18 AM
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I would never have guessed that Nay Win Maung died.

TheOldMole
Jan 02 2012 09:23 AM
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2011 locked before we could say our adieus to



[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/29/arts/design/helen-frankenthaler-and-john-chamberlain-an-appraisal.html

SteveJRogers
Jan 02 2012 10:05 AM
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[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/bob-anderson-swordmaster-choreographed-star-wars-lord-rings-dies-89-article-1.999784

Edgy MD
Jan 02 2012 10:45 AM
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See that's what I like these thread for --- considering the legacy of fine and courageous folks I had never (or little) heard of, rather than merely ticking off the passings of supporting actors from long-dead sitcoms.

Edgy MD
Jan 02 2012 10:57 AM
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Meanwhile, the staining technique introduced in “Mountains and Sea” was quickly adopted by Kenneth Noland and Morris Louis and became fundamental to Color Field painting. (Those painters, who lived in Washington, were taken to Ms. Frankenthaler’s studio to see the work in 1953 by the eminent art critic Clement Greenberg, who was then Ms. Frankenthaler’s lover. That she was not present at the time of this historic, oft-cited visit continues to startle.)


So I ask my baby, "Baby, do you ever take my competitors around to look at my stuff while I'm not home?" She said she does it all the time. WHAT?!

Edgy MD
Jan 02 2012 08:34 PM
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There have been rumblings on Twitter (but no real reports nor denials that I've found) that Fidel Castro --- no democracy activist, he --- has passed.

Sounds dubious, but...

Ashie62
Jan 02 2012 10:22 PM
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Mark Sanchez

Nymr83
Jan 02 2012 10:36 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Mark Sanchez


uncalled for. could have just said "Jets Offense", but i guess that died in 2011

metirish
Jan 03 2012 06:01 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Mark Sanchez



out of bounds Ashie

G-Fafif
Jan 03 2012 06:11 AM
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Jim Huber, CNN Sports anchor back when CNN had such things, 67, from leukemia. He and Nick Charles were staples on Sports Night when it was a serious competitor to SportsCenter. Each man signed off, as it were, just over six months apart. Huber was associated with NBA and golf telecasts in recent years.

Edgy MD
Jan 09 2012 05:32 AM
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When folks asked me what NRBQ was like, I'd say, "What the young Beatles might have sounded like if they had Thelonius Monk on piano."

When they'd ask how that was possible, I'd say, "Tom Ardolino on drums holding it all together."

Spare a moment for NRBQ and the legacy of the late Tom Ardolino.

[youtube]h-s8JFTt-vo[/youtube]

Frayed Knot
Jan 09 2012 06:00 AM
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Don Carter - 85
-- legendary bowler and long-time 'Wide World of Sports' staple who was one of the earlier athletes to sign mega-bucks endorsement deals.
Take that main-stream sports stars!!


Tony Blankley - 62
-- British-born writer and conservative political spokesman gained fame as press secretary to Congressman Newt Gingrich

Ashie62
Jan 10 2012 09:32 PM
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metirish wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
Mark Sanchez



out of bounds Ashie


The idea of a dead thread period is ghoulish and out of bounds. I will ignore and desist.

SteveJRogers
Jan 10 2012 09:47 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
Mark Sanchez



out of bounds Ashie


The idea of a dead thread period is ghoulish and out of bounds. I will ignore and desist.


How is aggregating obits of noted persons on the occasion of their deaths ghoulish and out of bounds?

G-Fafif
Jan 11 2012 04:16 PM
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First name Harvey, last name same as mine: older relative (81) to whom my father was intermittently close yet he had to read about it in the Times. Met him twice that I can recall. That side of the family was and, from what I've been able to tell, is weird. But so was/is my mother's.

This was his paid notice...

Loving husband, brother, father and grand- father. Internist, bibliophile, US Army veteran, lover of music and politics, unshakeable Yankees and Giants fan. He will be sadly missed.


Except for half of what was unshakeable.

themetfairy
Jan 11 2012 04:19 PM
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My condolences Greg!

metirish
Jan 11 2012 05:25 PM
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Sorry Greg, condolences to you and your family.

TransMonk
Jan 11 2012 06:37 PM
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Sorry Greg.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 11 2012 06:57 PM
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We'll miss ya, Weird Uncle Harv.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 11 2012 06:58 PM
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"Weird," indeed. A lover of politics?

R.I.P.

Ashie62
Jan 11 2012 07:46 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
Mark Sanchez



out of bounds Ashie


The idea of a dead thread period is ghoulish and out of bounds. I will ignore and desist.


How is aggregating obits of noted persons on the occasion of their deaths ghoulish and out of bounds?


I think its the glee and competition to be the first to post it.

Edgy MD
Jan 11 2012 08:18 PM
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Smashie, I'm serious about the hugging thing. Go find somebody and hug them a good long time.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 11 2012 09:37 PM
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Also, maybe some new specs. I think you're mistaking us for somebody else.

Ashie62
Jan 12 2012 12:10 PM
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Improvement in Ashie1's health would do more than anything for us.

I apologize for being so miserable folks..New glasses on the way.

themetfairy
Jan 12 2012 02:25 PM
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Best of good vibes to Ashie1!

Ashie62
Jan 12 2012 05:47 PM
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Thank you MF..Lupus flares in winter are debilitating.

G-Fafif
Jan 16 2012 11:36 AM
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CBS and ABC correspondent Richard Threlkeld, 74, in a car accident on Eastern Long Island. Watching clips of him in a tribute aired on CBS Sunday Morning, it struck me what an extinct professional breed he represented from the perspective of 2012 -- the absolutely authoritative network reporter (and fill-in anchor). You would tune in, you'd get your serious, trustworthy ostensibly objective news, you'd accept it as Gospel. In retrospect, he seems like one of those Broadcast News characters dutifully doing his job in the background while the industry was changing underneath the feet of Albert Brooks and Holly Hunter. He could have been the guy who wanted Saturday off for the correspondent's dinner, thus enabling Brooks to get an ill-fated crack at anchoring.

Of course that was show business...though maybe Threlkeld's kind of presentation was, too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 18 2012 12:55 PM
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Yo Leroy! Jimmy Castor is dead. 70s soul/funk bandleader whose songs were sampled thousands of times by hiphop groups. Nobody made an album cover like he did though.

dgwphotography
Jan 18 2012 06:08 PM
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Dr. Mel Goldstein. http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/WTNH ... 611932.php

MFS62
Jan 18 2012 10:11 PM
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dgwphotography wrote:
Dr. Mel Goldstein. http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/WTNH ... 611932.php

As the article stated, we've known he was ill for quite a while.
We trusted his forecasts above all the others.
He didn't dwell on the causes of the upcoming weather.
He answered the questions we wanted answered: What is coming?; when will it get to MY town?; and how much of it will we get?

We'll miss him.

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 20 2012 09:45 AM
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Etta James ... at last.

TransMonk
Jan 20 2012 09:53 AM
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Dang!

Edgy MD
Jan 20 2012 09:59 AM
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Boo...

Not that I'd miss that song if I never heard it again. It kind of stands alongside "What a Wonderful World" as overused wedding song/film montage song/unfortunate proxy for a great artist's much-bigger-than-that-song career.

Great singer.

Edgy MD
Jan 20 2012 10:03 AM
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Gammons tweets: "Still have my 45 RPM of Etta James' 'Tell Mama'."

[youtube:9pq3tcs0]X8pcNIGjJX0[/youtube:9pq3tcs0]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 20 2012 12:50 PM
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Damn. Damn.

metsguyinmichigan
Jan 20 2012 01:49 PM
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I only discovered her a couple years ago after a trip to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Frayed Knot
Jan 20 2012 04:45 PM
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Also dead is musician Johnny Otis (90) noted, for among other things, writing/performing 'Willie and the Hand Jive' and also discovering and promoting various R&B artists including ... Etta James

MFS62
Jan 20 2012 07:53 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Etta James ... at last.

Her name seems to show up frequently on crossword puzzles as the answer to the clue
"Singer, _ _ _ _ James".
RIP, Etta.
Your music and your name will be with us for a long time.

Later

Frayed Knot
Jan 22 2012 08:31 AM
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Joe Paterno - 85

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 22 2012 08:43 AM
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Well, he only had to live in disgrace for a short period of time.

metsguyinmichigan
Jan 22 2012 09:33 AM
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If he'd died six months ago, he'd probably lie in state in Harrisburg. Now, not sure how they celebrate what he did with out mentioning the shameful activity he allowed to happen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 22 2012 10:46 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Joe Paterno - 85


holy cannoli

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 22 2012 12:20 PM
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Hold the phone... Washington Post reporting that he's still alive.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 22 2012 12:20 PM
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Oops, fix that. He wasn't dead on Saturday, but he IS dead on Sunday.

Frayed Knot
Jan 22 2012 01:08 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 22 2012 02:48 PM

Hold the phone... Washington Post reporting that he's still alive. ...
Oops, fix that. He wasn't dead on Saturday, but he IS dead on Sunday.


Yeah, there were erroneous reports of his death late Saturday, reports apparently started with the campus newspaper but were almost instantly denied by the family via various tweets/texts, etc.
The editor of the paper has already stepped down but, prior to their take-back, that report was picked up by various outlets including CBS Sportsline which ran a banner headline with the "news" although without any specific person's name attached to it (nice journalism).

I happened to be watching a news program this morning - ironically CBS - when they busted in with the news of Paterno's actual death..




If he'd died six months ago, he'd probably lie in state in Harrisburg.


And not that it's good the way things happened and all - but maybe it's better in the long run that we not deify football coaches quite as much.
I happened to be in the south (although Texas, not Alabama) when Bear Bryant died. Not sure that the President croaking would have garnered as much attention.

MFS62
Jan 22 2012 02:46 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Yeah, there were erroneous reports of his death late Saturday that were scotched by the family.
I happened to be watching a news program this morning when they busted in with the news.




If he'd died six months ago, he'd probably lie in state in Harrisburg.


And not that it's good the way things happened and all - but maybe it's better in the long run that we not deify football coaches quite as much.
I happened to be in the south (although Texas, not Alabama) when Bear Bryant died. Not sure that the President croaking would have garnered as much attention.

I was in Columbia, SC when Dale Ernhart died.
I couldn't count the tributes to him.
Down there, NASCAR is as important as football.
Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 26 2012 05:17 PM
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First of the Sweathogs to pass away, if I'm not mistaken.


Robert Hegyes, Juan Epstein of 'Welcome Back Kotter' dead at 60
Published: Thursday, January 26, 2012, 4:11 PM Updated: Thursday, January 26, 2012, 5:28 PM
Vicki Hyman/The Star-Ledger By Vicki Hyman/The Star-Ledger

Robert Hegyes, the Jersey-born actor who played Jewish Puerto Rican wheeler-dealer Juan Luis Pedro Phillipo de Huevos Epstein on the 1970s classic "Welcome Back Kotter," died from an apparent heart attack after suffering chest pains at his Metuchen home this morning. He was 60.

Hegyes, who also co-starred on "Cagney and Lacey" and taught occasional master classes at his alma mater, Rowan University, was best known for his work on "Kotter," in which he performed alongside a young John Travolta as one of the tough remedial students known at the Sweathogs. Hegyes and nearly all of the original cast members reunited last year at the TV Land Awards to recognize the show's 35th anniversary.

On his website, Hegyes wrote that he modeled the swaggering, skirt-chasing Epstein after Chico Marx, whom he played in a national touring production of "A Night With Groucho." He was a big fan of the Marx Brothers: "They were immigrant Jews, and I was an immigrant Italian. Groucho, Harpo, Chico, Gummo, and Zeppo were intellectuals ... They all played the piano and took music lessons, and they were all juvenile delinquents; I could definitely relate."

Hegyes had suffered a heart attack a couple of years ago and was not in good health, his brother Mark Hegyes of Montana said. Metuchen police responded to a call for medical assistance from Hegyes' home at 9:02 a.m., and Hegyes, who was experiencing chest pains, was taken to JFK Medical Center in Edison, police said. By the time he arrived at the emergency room at 9:40 a.m., he was in full cardiac arrest and died, according to hospital spokesman Steven Weiss.

Hegyes, whose father was Hungarian-American and whose mother was Italian-American, was born in Perth Amboy and grew up in Metuchen. He was one of the kids equally at home on the gridiron and in the footlights. His nickname: Chico. He wrote that his mother, a big Broadway musical and Frank Sinatra fan, stoked his theatrical ambitions, making him sing along with Ol' Blue Eyes and "incessantly" to "Maria" from "West Side Story."

He graduated from Rowan University (then Glassboro State College) with a bachelor's degree in speech/theater and secondary education -- Rowan spokesman Joe Cardona called him a "great friend" of the school, noting that he sported a Rowan shirt while co-starring as Det. Esposito on "Cagney and Lacey" -- and quickly found work in New York, co-starring Off-Broadway in "Naomi Court" and in the Broadway drama "Don't Call Back." He was then cast as Epstein, a role he played for "Kotter"'s four-season run on ABC.

Following "Kotter" and "Cagney & Lacey," he continued to act on television, mostly in guest-starring roles including "NewsRadio," "Diagnosis Murder" and "The Drew Carey Show," and made occasional films, including "Bob Roberts" with Tim Robbins. He also taught at Brooks College of Long Beach, Calif., and wrote screenplays. Peter Loewy, who runs the Forum Theatre Arts Center in Metuchen, says he planned to work with Hegyes on a one-man show a year or so ago, but Hegyes' health problems -- he needed a hip replacement, among other things -- put it on hold indefinitely. "He was a gentle guy," Loewy remembers. "He had, ironically, a big heart."

Hegyes was retired but still talked about directing and getting more involved in local arts efforts, Mark Hegyes said. "He always had these great schemes," his brother said, "but last week he said I'm not going to do that anymore."

Hegyes leaves behind three siblings, two children, Cassie and Mack, and two step-children, Sophia and Alex.

Visitation will be at Flynn & Son Funeral Home at 23 Ford Ave., Fords, on Sunday from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. The funeral will take place during the evening visiting hours.

Star-Ledger staff writer Tom Haydon contributed to this report


© 2012 New Jersey On-Line LLC. All rights reserved (About Us).

Edgy MD
Jan 26 2012 06:20 PM
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That's a really good obit.

Juan Luis Pedro Phillipo de Huevos Epstein


"de Hueavos." Excellent.

G-Fafif
Jan 27 2012 05:49 AM
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Eerie that it happens simultaneously with Franco's Mets HOF election, as both Epstein and Johnny were from Bensonhurst.

Either way, I guess Juan doesn't need a note this morning.

G-Fafif
Jan 27 2012 06:12 AM
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Danger! Danger! Dick Tufeld, 85, voice of Robot from Lost In Space.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 27 2012 08:39 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:

First of the Sweathogs to pass away, if I'm not mistaken.



On his website, Hegyes wrote that he modeled the swaggering, skirt-chasing Epstein after Chico Marx, whom he played in a national touring production of "A Night With Groucho." He was a big fan of the Marx Brothers....



I'm not surprised. He sounded like Chico, looked like Harpo, and walked like Groucho.

RIP

Vic Sage
Jan 27 2012 08:56 AM
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with the talent of Gummo.

Nicol Williamson, 75.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/theat ... wanted=all

one of my faves, he was a drunken lunatic. I'm surprised he lasted this long.

Edgy MD
Feb 01 2012 07:57 AM
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Oh, dear. Don Cornelius in an apparent suicide.

Hollywood Babylon, man.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 01 2012 08:00 AM
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Geez. I have been playing a lot about that early 70s soul he got out there.

Edgy MD
Feb 01 2012 10:01 AM
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And as always in parting, I wish you love, peace... and SOUL!

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 01 2012 10:30 AM
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Two strangers died last night. When I was commuting home with my son we were transferring from a bus to the subway and the station was swarming with fire trucks and ambulances. I found out later that someone had been struck and killed by the commuter train. Then we were walking to our house from our local subway stop and there were police cars and caution tape surrounding a house in the neighborhood. One of our neighbors committed suicide. I didn't know either of these people but I don't usually encounter so much death and despair on an evening's commute so it gave me a moment of pause.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 01 2012 11:16 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Oh, dear. Don Cornelius in an apparent suicide.


That's terrible and tragic.






But the procession should help lift everyone's spirits.

Frayed Knot
Feb 01 2012 11:30 AM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I found out later that someone had been struck and killed by the commuter train.


I'm amazed at how often this happens.
The LIRR alone seems to take out a person every month. It's probably not that many but, for a while at least, it seemed like I was reading/hearing about a different story every few weeks.
Some of those turn out to be suicides, but others are accidents and/or stupidity and/or unexplained causes that you'd think would occur far less often than they do.

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 01 2012 12:19 PM
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The location where this happened is below-grade so someone just walking across the tracks is pretty much out of the question. This person must have jumped or fallen from the platform.

metirish
Feb 02 2012 06:05 AM
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Angelo Dundee dies at 90

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/s ... 52926716/1

G-Fafif
Feb 04 2012 04:39 PM
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Former Boston mayor Kevin White, 82, who would have been George McGovern's running mate had someone remembered to check with Teddy. Instead White was vetoed, Tom Eagleton got the last-second nod and "Tom Eagleton" became code for everything that could go wrong with unvetted candidates, particularly for veep. Since Eagleton's implosion in 1972, VP picking has become a process not an afterthought.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 04 2012 05:05 PM
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And yet, somehow... Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin.

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 04 2012 08:37 PM
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My friend who works at the local historic society discovered that Kevin White lived in the house across the street from my house during his childhood. I'm working on getting my kids to get into an even higher political office so our house will be even more noted.

G-Fafif
Feb 05 2012 01:21 AM
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And yet, somehow... Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin.


The key is to appoint someone to head your search committee who will pick himself.

I once read a theory, vis-a-vis "Why Quayle?" and maybe it could be applied to the selection of Palin as well: Democrats are earnest good-government types and thus take VP selection deadly seriously, like it's a term paper, because it is potentially critical to the nation; Republicans, with their corporate underpinnings, instinctively think of vice president as a meaningless title you throw some not necessarily essential junior executive.

Since Eagleton (and his emergency replacement Sargent Shriver), the Democrats have made a sober choice (Mondale), a gimmicky/historic choice (Ferraro), a particularly calculated choice (Bentsen), what was perceived in political circles as a bold choice (Gore), a choice that wasn't as clever as they thought (Lieberman), a choice that looked better on paper than on the campaign trail (Edwards) and a safe choice with the caveat that the candidate was capable of going wildly off script (Biden). But they've always done it post-Eagleton with lots of homework and process, making sure everybody played fair with everybody else before arriving at an announcement.

In that same time span (following two elections in which Spiro Agnew proved no impediment to victory), the Republicans have tabbed Dole, Bush, Quayle, Kemp, Cheney and Palin -- all over the stature map -- with relatively light fanfare, often (by contemporary indications) as shots in the dark.

About the best you can say for the electoral impact of any of these candidates (in either party) was they probably did no substantial harm overall, no matter how much derision some of these people received and whatever gaffes they produced. I doubt a VP choice's home state has swung because the VP was from there since maybe -- maybe -- Gore helped ensure Clinton Tennessee in 1992 and 1996 (even if he couldn't win it for himself in 2000). Bush picked a lightweight in 1988 and won easily. McCain picked a lightweight in 2008 and lost badly. Cheney and his vague aura of gravitas couldn't have been less personally appealing in 2000 and it's doubtful a ridiculously close race hinged on him one way or another.

Frayed Knot
Feb 05 2012 09:58 AM
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Stage, movie, TV actor Ben Gazzara - 81

Slight NYM connection in that he played Yogi Berra on stage about a decade ago (although I'm betting that the role dealt mainly with his MFY years)



Anyone wishing to catch a glimpse of him need only turn on their TV to catch him as the bad guy in the inexplicably popular 'Road House' which I believe is playing on at least one cable channel at any moment during a given day.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 05 2012 10:57 AM
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He was a character-actor fave of mine (AND Cassavetes), even when making objects into women.

Gwreck
Feb 11 2012 06:05 PM
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Whitney Houston, 48.

metirish
Feb 11 2012 06:15 PM
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Whitney Houston, 48.


what a waste , pix of her leaving a club last night looking shit faced


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... -wear.html

themetfairy
Feb 11 2012 08:11 PM
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Whitney Houston, 48.


what a waste , pix of her leaving a club last night looking shit faced


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... -wear.html


So sad, but not shocking....

Edgy MD
Feb 11 2012 08:20 PM
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She had been reported dead the day the World Trade Center fell. Somebody went with the rumor and some news desks were running it without following it up because they were busy on the big story.

Anyhow, this one seems real enough. Sorry to see talent to entertain go down. But it often enough does.

Amazin' to think that she shared DNA with both Dionne Warwick and Aretha Franklin. More amazin' to think they've both outlived her.

Ashie62
Feb 11 2012 09:15 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
She had been reported dead the day the World Trade Center fell. Somebody went with the rumor and some news desks were running it without following it up because they were busy on the big story.

Anyhow, this one seems real enough. Sorry to see talent to entertain go down. But it often enough does.

Amazin' to think that she shared DNA with both Dionne Warwick and Aretha Franklin. More amazin' to think they've both outlived her.


As has Bobby Brown.

TransMonk
Feb 12 2012 07:52 AM
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'Tis a shame. Her 1991 National Anthem at the Super Bowl is still considered one of the best renditions ever.

Great pipes.

MFS62
Feb 12 2012 07:53 AM
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She was a tremendous talent that is a shame she wasted.
RIP, Whitney.
You apparently waited too long to exhale.

Later

Frayed Knot
Feb 12 2012 09:21 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Amazin' to think that she shared DNA with both Dionne Warwick and Aretha Franklin. More amazin' to think they've both outlived her.


I keep hearing that Aretha is her god-mother so no DNA there even though an obvious close connection. The Warwicks are apparently cousins.
Also is out-lived by her gospel singing mother Cissy who, among other things, is one of the backing vocals you hear on Paul Simon's 'Mother and Child Reunion'

G-Fafif
Feb 12 2012 09:26 AM
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metirish
Feb 13 2012 08:25 AM
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David Kelly , a wonderful actor has died in Dublin aged 82

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ire ... tml?via=mr

Edgy MD
Feb 15 2012 04:17 PM
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I'm a little concerned that the final legacy of Michael Jackson is the introduction of a new tradition of garish celebrity public funerals/spectacles that allow the media to feed off of shots of (and encourage) public mourning of questionable taste and allow the heirs and business interests to relaunch the deceased's brand and back catalog with a robust new commercial vigor. A vigorous new commercial robustness.

Edgy MD
Feb 15 2012 07:19 PM
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A prison fire in Honduras kills more than 350, trapped and screaming in their cells.

That's the sort of nightmare that stuns me.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/ ... OK20120216

metirish
Feb 16 2012 05:29 PM
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My father in law died Tuesday morning , been at the Wake all day, he was sick with kidney and heart failure for many years yet was only 52 when he passed peacefully in a Florida hospital. Huge baseball fan, huge MFY fan, great guy , very quite and he had to have suffered these past years going through all he did but never complained, loved going to City Island to eat sea food that he knew he shouldn't eat. Great with kids, and he had a lot of them and a lot of grand kids too,he and his wife along with having five girls and one boy of their own also raised two other girls who's parents were either gone or couldn't cope.....he was that type of person.

Edgy MD
Feb 16 2012 05:35 PM
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Sorry to hear. Sorrier to hear Lorcan won't have him around.

Hats off to the Yankee fan. The more I think about adoption and the sort of unofficial foster parenting that is its cousin, the more I realize how sort of miraculous it can be.

themetfairy
Feb 16 2012 06:14 PM
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My condolences irish :(

metsguyinmichigan
Feb 16 2012 06:48 PM
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Sorry for your loss, Irish.

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 16 2012 06:56 PM
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My condolences to you and your wife and her family Irish. 52 is way too young.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 16 2012 06:58 PM
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Damn. DAMN, that's young.

Kong76
Feb 16 2012 07:38 PM
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Sorry to hear, irish.

Ashie62
Feb 16 2012 08:52 PM
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Gary Carter..

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/sports/baseball/gary-carter-exuberant-power-hitting-catcher-dies-at-57.html

smg58
Feb 16 2012 09:18 PM
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Kong76 wrote:
Sorry to hear, irish.


Likewise.

MFS62
Feb 16 2012 09:52 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
My condolences to you and your wife and her family Irish. 52 is way too young.

Same here, Irish.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Later

TransMonk
Feb 17 2012 07:24 AM
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Sorry Irish.

HahnSolo
Feb 17 2012 07:32 AM
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Terribly sorry, Irish. Damn, 52.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 17 2012 07:49 AM
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Best to the Irish and Puerto Rico families.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 17 2012 12:04 PM
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My condolences, Irish.

Rockin' Doc
Feb 17 2012 09:27 PM
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Belated condolences to you and your family, irish.

metirish
Feb 18 2012 05:15 AM
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Thanks everyone for the condolences. Going to Woodlawn cemetery this morning.

G-Fafif
Feb 18 2012 07:19 PM
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Very sorry to hear, Irish. Best to the whole family.

Fman99
Feb 19 2012 06:02 AM
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Sorry to hear of your family's loss Irish.

metirish
Feb 29 2012 11:08 AM
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Sad news

Davy Jones Dead: Singer Of The Monkees Dies At 66

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/2 ... 10769.html

Edgy MD
Feb 29 2012 11:14 AM
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Whoah.

Wake up, Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 29 2012 11:17 AM
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Damn. Hard to believe Marcia Brady outlived him.

TransMonk
Feb 29 2012 11:21 AM
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Dang...thought he would be around for another couple decades.

Maybe he did some hard livin' we don't yet know about. Never thought he'd be the first Monkee to go. Prolly would have picked him last.

Edgy MD
Feb 29 2012 11:32 AM
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Oh, I have little doubt that Davy Jones lived like a 5'3" Manchester bad ass. He was with his third wife, half his age, and all bios on the Monks report that while they were all at each other's throats, the diminutive lover got his licks in as a fighter as well.

Still, the consummate entertainer. First came to the US as The Artful Dodger in a production of Oliver! and returned to tour with the show decades later as Fagin. He was appearing on The Ed Sullivan Show with an Oliver! excerpt the night the Beatles debuted and set America on fire, and he said, "Man, I could do with a little of that."

[youtube]vDzemlztea4[/youtube]

OE: Early reports are saying heart attack.

themetfairy
Feb 29 2012 11:41 AM
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Too sad.

Watching him on The Monkees always made me feel a little better about my lack of height.

RIP Davy - you brought a lot of joy into the world.

[youtube:qnar8dmk]nU615FaODCg[/youtube:qnar8dmk]

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 29 2012 01:16 PM
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This Monkee gone to heaven.

TransMonk
Feb 29 2012 01:29 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
This Monkee gone to heaven.

BOC!

G-Fafif
Feb 29 2012 04:15 PM
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[youtube:3etoyzjg]2Ccw2t0FnVk[/youtube:3etoyzjg]

The title belies the substance: A glaze of optimism atop a chunk of indecision. Davy played Neil Diamond's cognitive dissonance perfectly.

Frayed Knot
Feb 29 2012 08:29 PM
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As a musician Davey, ummmmm ... played a mean tambourine.

When music radio started homogenizing into stricter playlists, the few jocks I would stumble across who still had the ability to choose their own stuff (generally those on small stations or at odd hours) seemed to almost invariably be closet Monkees fans.

Jim Monaghan on the old NEW was one; he'd get shuffled to time slots like the early Sunday AM shift but he was practically a Monkees groupie.
In later years I found a guy off a station working out of Nassau Comm Coll who'd always throw in at least one of their songs per hour.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 29 2012 09:11 PM
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He had a pretty good voice too, and the chixx dug him.

me, I always liked what I heard from the Monkees, but didn't develop a real appreciation for the whole Monkee thing until more recently. I think Norrin Radd influenced me.

Vic Sage
Feb 29 2012 09:32 PM
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yeah, i thought i put up a pretty good showing in the music archives somewhere, when i championed the Monkees over the Red Hot Chili Peppers, to the chagrin of some and the amusement of others. where is that thing?

Edgy MD
Feb 29 2012 09:41 PM
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I loved it. I think about it way more than I should. They were given a show in 1966 to capture the spirit that the Beatles were moving on from after 1965, but that still had some juice --- that joyous subversion. The suits tried to play along and be hip, saying "Sure, the world needs it, and the young generation really gets society's goat with it, but it doesn't have to Gimme Shelter. It can be fun and sweet and groovy." Ka-ching.

But that's where it gets awesome, because the stars ended up subverting their own damn show. While their producers assembled these random nameless moptops to cash in the society's mania for moptops getting the goats of stuffy middle-aged business guys, the band totally got the goats of their stuffy middle-aged business-guy producers.

It was watered-down Beatles, sure, but it was also Chaplin and Zappa and Bugs Bunny and Python and the spirit of countless other really funny subversive cultural forces. And if you're going to sing contributions from hired guns, it might as well be Boyce and Hart and King and Coffin and Neil Diamond, man.

They couldn't figure out how to present the band. Namely, who was going to drum? Tork and Nesmith were the best musicians, so they couldn't be wasted back there. So it was down to Davy and Mickey, but Davy just disappeared behind the Kit. So Mickey got a crash course, and they ended up with the relatively unprecedented presentation of their most frequent lead singer being their drummer. Even the accidental stuff like that was kinda subversive. Davy would occasionally swap in on the skins during the concerts though.

Really great stuff. Drove Don Kirschner absolutely crazy. And show me a better Greatest Hits album and I'll show you a Hall-of-Famer.

He wore a slamming mullet by the eighties, too.

Edgy MD
Feb 29 2012 09:43 PM
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Monkees v. Peppers.

As I noted, two bands that are pure Hollywood, both featuring former child actors, and round ten features both bands putting forth a song about a girl whose name ends in "i." Both had theme songs.

I didn't mention, both bands had a guy who was really, really small.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 29 2012 11:31 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Monkees v. Peppers.

As I noted, two bands that are pure Hollywood, both featuring former child actors, and round ten features both bands putting forth a song about a girl whose name ends in "i." Both had theme songs.

I didn't mention, both bands had a guy who was really, really small.


Great thread, and surprisingly great matchup. (Though the mini-waterfall of 10-0s is a little embarrassing.)

MFS62
Mar 01 2012 07:06 AM
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Edgy, thank you.
You eloquently explained exactly why I didn't like the Monkees at the time.
I felt they were foisted upon us like children. Parents telling us "We know you like that. So we know you'll like this" and then jamming a new food down our throats.
They were a made-for-tv Sci-fy movie. It may have been good, but to give more modern comparisons, it would never be Jaws or Alien.
So I paid no attention. But now, as time has passed, I do listen to their music.
This had nothing to do with the band members themselves.
RIP.

Later

Edgy MD
Mar 01 2012 07:20 AM
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Monkees vs. Peppers now a Facebook phenomenon.

Mets – Willets Point
Mar 01 2012 07:21 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Monkees v. Peppers.

As I noted, two bands that are pure Hollywood, both featuring former child actors, and round ten features both bands putting forth a song about a girl whose name ends in "i." Both had theme songs.

I didn't mention, both bands had a guy who was really, really small.


And don't forget "one band has a member who wears a sock cap while the other band wears socks on their members." That Willets Point guy was freakin' hilarious.

Mets – Willets Point
Mar 01 2012 07:50 AM
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Conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart dies at the age of 43.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 01 2012 07:53 AM
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Natural causes?

metirish
Mar 01 2012 08:13 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Natural causes?


Or Olbermann?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 01 2012 08:16 AM
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The Weinerman did it.

Edgy MD
Mar 01 2012 08:36 AM
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If he didn't have a family, I wouldn't put it past him to fake his own death in order to better go undercover.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 01 2012 08:58 AM
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Well, if Obama can fake his own birth, Breitbart can fake his own death.

SteveJRogers
Mar 01 2012 09:22 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
If he didn't have a family, I wouldn't put it past him to fake his own death in order to better go undercover.


There is a Breitbart wannabe attention whore out there that actually did fake his own demise at the hands of a brutal beating.

I wish I was making that up. I forget whom, I looked it up because the attention whore was attacking someone in an article a friend posted on Facebook and I explained that the attention whore wasn't worth anyone's time.

Put it this way, I saw a clip of Sean Hannity running him down for him being one of those "I hate the troops" types.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 01 2012 09:25 AM
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metirish wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Natural causes?


Or Olbermann?


Obviously, it was Obama.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 01 2012 12:34 PM
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I just found out... that he was Orson Bean's son-in-law.

sharpie
Mar 01 2012 01:00 PM
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I had no idea that Orson Bean still walked the earth.

cooby
Mar 01 2012 02:31 PM
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It is a good thing I didn't say that

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 01 2012 03:09 PM
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You don't want to incur the wrath of the legions of Orson Bean fans?

Edgy MD
Mar 01 2012 05:29 PM
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People I conflated as a 10-year-old.

Orson Welles: fat guy with a serious baritone voice who sold wine on TV.
Orson Bean: not particularly fat guy who would comically affect a serious baritone voice
George Orwell: the serious guy that Orson Welles got famous adapting.
Orson: Mork's serious, baritone supervisor, unseen but frequently suggested to be portly in Mork's zingers.

smg58
Mar 01 2012 06:56 PM
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Breitbart didn't exactly endear himself to me when he posted a tweet calling for the execution of my boss. But any time the father of a child and the son of living parents passes, it's sad.

cooby
Mar 02 2012 06:00 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
You don't want to incur the wrath of the legions of Orson Bean fans?


No I was thinking more of the (thankfully) lately dormant "cooby curse"

Edgy MD
Mar 02 2012 07:08 AM
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Orson Bean zings Radar.

[youtube:39d2965l]YLDR8oc8k6Y[/youtube:39d2965l]

MFS62
Mar 02 2012 07:52 AM
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Its not the only thing he zinged.
As Gene said, Bean was involved in education.
I remember him being interviewed about that. I heard him say:
"The bad thing about the current education system is that there are too many Jews involved in it."
Yes, he said those words.
The reporter didn't know how to respond.
And it was a long time until Orson showed up on TV again.(if ever)

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 02 2012 08:28 AM
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It looks like he's done plenty of TV in the last decade or so. His IMDB page lists Desperate Housewives; How I Met Your Mother; Hot in Cleveland; The Closer; Two and a Half Men; 7th Heaven; Becker; Normal, Ohio; Diagnosis Murder; Ally McBeal; Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman and more.

HahnSolo
Mar 02 2012 08:35 AM
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According to Wikipedia, he's also schtupping Kevin Arnold's mom.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 04 2012 06:04 PM
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Ronnie Montrose, 64, of prostate cancer. He could bring the thundah. Also brought along Sammy Haggar.

[youtube:3h3s2fw9]loaxDYWPZ54[/youtube:3h3s2fw9]

Fman99
Mar 04 2012 07:08 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
People I conflated as a 10-year-old.

Orson Welles: fat guy with a serious baritone voice who sold wine on TV.
Orson Bean: not particularly fat guy who would comically affect a serious baritone voice
George Orwell: the serious guy that Orson Welles got famous adapting.
Orson: Mork's serious, baritone supervisor, unseen but frequently suggested to be portly in Mork's zingers.


I did this too but I would add:

Merlin Olsen: stocky bearded guy who called football games and hangs out with Ron Burgandy

Mets – Willets Point
Mar 05 2012 07:51 AM
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Welsh actor Philip Madoc who played multiple guest roles on Doctor Who among other things died at the age of 77.

Edgy MD
Mar 07 2012 09:33 AM
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Honor James Q. Wilson by fixing a broken window. Planting a shrub.

G-Fafif
Mar 15 2012 02:36 PM
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Jimmy Ellis, 74, lead singer of the Trammps, whose calling card was "Disco Inferno," but whose catalogue was far deeper than a serendipitous soundtrack hit.

The Trammps were formed in the early ’70s, according to their keyboard player and manager, Edward Cermanski. Mr. Cermanski said the second “m” in the group’s name came from the days when Mr. Ellis and his friends sang on street corners.

“The police called them tramps,” he said. “So they said they wanted to be high-class tramps, with two ‘m’s in the name.”


[youtube]024mLkPxcP4[/youtube]

Edgy MD
Mar 15 2012 02:44 PM
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Trammps and the Spinners were pretty much the last charting of the coordinated dance vocal soul groups. I guess the boy band movement brought that delivery back a little, but also guaranteed no adult would ever go for that presentation again.

G-Fafif
Mar 16 2012 05:30 AM
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Michael Hossack, 65, drummer for the Doobie Brothers, pre- and post-McDonald.

[youtube]bJqk2yWUGTM[/youtube]

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 16 2012 06:30 AM
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He was only half of their drum section for awhile. Oh, and he died from inhaling too much dry ice.

cooby
Mar 17 2012 09:15 AM
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I lost my last remaining uncle and one of my childhood friends this week. Ironically, they lived across the street from each other when she was a little girl.

The world will be a less funny place without them

themetfairy
Mar 17 2012 09:46 AM
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My condolences cooby.

{{Big Hugs}}

MFS62
Mar 17 2012 11:31 AM
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Big hugs, Cooby.
Thoughts and prayers with you.

Later

cooby
Mar 17 2012 02:43 PM
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It was a sad week...

Frayed Knot
Mar 22 2012 05:09 PM
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Furman Bisher - 93
Long time sports writer out of Atlanta, the NC native retired from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution in 2009 after 59 years at the paper. His influence and the length of his career gave him the label 'voice of the south'.
In a story which has echoes to topics from this week, one obit I read mentioned a long-running feud with coach Bear Bryant based on Bisher's opinion that Bryant taught his players to 'play dirty'.


He was one of the first non-NY writers I was exposed to as a result of him being one of the stable of regional writers syndicated by old 'The Sporting News'

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2012 06:00 PM
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Furman Bisher.

That's a name that sticks with a kid.

Mets – Willets Point
Mar 25 2012 01:57 PM
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New Yorker cartonist and Mets fan Al Ross.

metirish
Mar 25 2012 05:36 PM
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Bert Sugar, cardiac arrest says Newsday

Frayed Knot
Mar 25 2012 07:18 PM
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That's Dundee, Fraizer & Sugar all in the last, what, six months or so?
Not a good half-year for boxing in the midst of what's been a bad couple of decades now for boxing.

G-Fafif
Mar 25 2012 09:45 PM
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I had the pleasure of Sugar's company less than a year-and-a-half ago. "Rascal" doesn't begin to describe him. Wonderful man, am saddened by his passing.

Frayed Knot
Mar 26 2012 07:00 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 26 2012 07:17 AM

Burt Sugar was also a huge baseball fan.
I heard him in a number of interviews over the years proving that his sports mind wasn't just confined to the goings-on in the squared circle, often displaying knowledge of the game that put him well beyond those who simply claim to be a fan because they think it's what the interviewer wants to hear.
Hell, his baseball knowledge put him well beyond that of most current ESPN desk jockeys.

metirish
Mar 26 2012 07:15 AM
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I would see him infrequently on Metro North, I believe Chappaqua was his stop,the times I saw him he was always talking to the conductor or the person next to him. I caught his eye once and said hi and he gave a smile back and said hello, he seemed that type of man.

Edgy MD
Mar 26 2012 07:32 AM
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Nolan Ryan Henderson III: a Jackson State University student shot and killed at a party this weekend: known perhaps by few outside of his circle, but a man who bore one bold-assed name.



The strange thing is that, being the third, it's nearly impossible that his namesakiness to Lynn Nolan Ryan is much more than coincidence.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 26 2012 07:44 AM
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BetterHalfer was crushed when she heard about Sugar. She used to work at HBO Sports, and chatted with him on many, many occasions at the office/at fights. A hilarious, almost unbelievably warm man "in terrible, terrible pants."

HahnSolo
Mar 26 2012 10:34 AM
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Back in Fordham working on 'FUV, Sugar came to our studios on a handful of occasions. What a character! Came up first with Pinklon Thomas, then later for a couple of our sports trivia marathons.

It floors me that he was only 73. It's going on 25 years since those FUV days, and I would have sworn he was 70 back then.

G-Fafif
Mar 27 2012 09:19 AM
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My fifteen minutes of Sugar.

MFS62
Mar 27 2012 09:22 AM
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I "spoke" to him when he was a guest on the Art Rust Jr. sportstalk radio show. We started out talking boxing (the second Louis-Schmelling fight), then the conversation moved to baseball. Yes. he knew his stuff, and he was delightful.
RIP, Bert.

Later

TheOldMole
Mar 29 2012 07:46 AM
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Two towering figures in different fields. Adrienne Rich, poet. Earl Scruggs, musician.

Edgy MD
Mar 29 2012 07:55 AM
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"Complications from arthritis"? That was a tough one for us to wrap our heads around when we read it last night.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 29 2012 07:57 AM
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I'm still getting used to the idea that an ankle injury suffered on a trampoline could be "nearly fatal."

Edgy MD
Mar 29 2012 08:01 AM
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Oh and on Earl Scruggs.

“Earl was to the five-string banjo what Babe Ruth was to baseball.
--- Porter Wagoner

metirish
Apr 01 2012 11:05 AM
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Giorgio Chinaglia has died.....sad news, had a heart attack ten days ago.

Edgy MD
Apr 01 2012 11:39 AM
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Giant in American soccer. I saw him score nine times once in a 10-1 rout.

metirish
Apr 01 2012 11:41 AM
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Here is something I just learned about him

April 1 (Reuters) - Former Italy and Lazio striker Giorgio Chinaglia has died aged 65, Italian media reported on Sunday.
He won the Serie A title with Lazio in 1974, played at the World Cup later that year and is also remembered for being one of the pioneers of the North American Soccer League with Pele and Franz Beckenbauer at the New York Cosmos.
More recently, Chinaglia was a fugitive of Italian justice in the United States after prosecutors brought charges of stock market rigging linked to his consortium's bid to buy Lazio.
Chinaglia died in Florida after suffering heart problems, the reports said. (Writing by Mark Meadows; Editing by Ken Ferris)

Frayed Knot
Apr 02 2012 06:48 AM
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From Phil Mushnick's Monday NYPost column:

GIORGIO Chinaglia, the most loved and loathed character among a deep cast of intriguing international figures throughout the Cosmos’ brief, fantastic Giants Stadium run in the late 1970s, died yesterday of heart failure at his home in Florida. Chinaglia, 65, who co-hosted a soccer show on SiriusXM with his longtime friend Charlie Stillitano, had recently suffered a heart attack.

Covering the Cosmos — the most famous, corporate-constructed sports team in history — meant one was obligated to despise Chinaglia as a meddler for his so-close relationship with Warner Communications boss Steve Ross (Warner owned the team) that provided Chinaglia strong-armed influence on hiring and firing coaches, for Chinaglia’s on-field disregard for and jealousy of Pele and stars who followed, for his demand for the ball, served just-so, at the top of the box.

But I cherished George because he told the truth — as far as he was concerned, his version. We could argue for hours — pack of Marlboros, bottle of scotch — and we always left on good terms. He knew what he was, how he did it, and he never ran from tough questions, only straight into them. Nothing was off the record.
He was conceited — “I am Chinaglia!” — but only because he was convinced. He honestly thought what was best for him was even better for the North American Soccer League.

Even as a soccer radio/TV analyst, he held to a simple standard: “See it, say it.”
Last year on their SiriusXM show, he scolded Stillitano, in his Italian/Welsh accent (before starring for Lazio in Italy, Chinaglia was raised in Wales, where his Italian-immigrant parents ran a restaurant), “Charlie, don’t compare [Lionel] Messi with [Diego] Maradona, please.”
“Everyone else has, Giorgio.”
“Everyone else,” said Chinaglia, “is an idiot.”

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 02 2012 07:37 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Filip Bondy quoted him in the Snooze today. "I am a finisher. When I am finished with the ball, it's in the back of the net."

Edgy MD
Apr 02 2012 07:54 AM
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There seems to be a lot opinion stated as fact in that Mushie story. I cut my teeth on the Cosmos teams and I don't see him as that most loved/most loathed dichotomy at all. As far as most loved, the guy put up Ruthian numbers as a striker but he never escaped Pele's shadow. As far as most loathed, well, soccer wasn't big enough in other towns for the Cosmos to inspire the kind of Yankee-hating a superstar-importing behemoth like them probably deserved. But if anybody was regularly derided, it was that self-promoting, porn-posing, cowboy-mustachioed, over-rated Shep Messing.

Frayed Knot
Apr 06 2012 04:13 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Joe Scarpa who wrestled professionally under several names & characters occasionally even his own but most notably in full head-dress and moccasins as 'Chief Jay Strongbow'
He was, quite naturally, a Philadelphian of Italian descent. Age is variously listed as somewhere between 79 and 83

metsguyinmichigan
Apr 07 2012 07:51 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Thomas Kincade, the artist most likely to be found in a Hallmark near you, died yesterday at 54. I didn't care for his stuff -- but millions certainly did.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 07 2012 08:19 AM
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I'm emptying a 40 of malt liquor on some terrible, terrible paintings in his honor.

MFS62
Apr 07 2012 08:41 AM
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Gil Noble:
http://news.yahoo.com/groundbreaking-bl ... 40460.html

Later

Ashie62
Apr 07 2012 02:43 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Kinkade screwed alot of startup franchisees...

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 08 2012 08:53 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Mike Wallace, of 60 Minutes fame, 93.

Edgy MD
Apr 08 2012 04:25 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Wow. Looked 75 when he was 60. Looked 75 when he was 93.

Frayed Knot
Apr 18 2012 02:00 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Dick Clark - 82

G-Fafif
Apr 18 2012 02:12 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

World's oldest teenager no more.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 18 2012 02:19 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Ready, here's your first subject. Go!

HahnSolo
Apr 18 2012 02:20 PM
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The big heyday of American Bandstand was before my time, and the Dick Clark-produced stuff on ABC like New Year's Eve and the American Music Awards generally annoyed me, however, as a young kid, I loved the 10/25/100,000 Pyramid. He was fantastic on that show.

Loved how they would come close in the final round, then whisper a giveaway clue once it was all over.

"Here is your first subject. GO!"

G-Fafif
Apr 18 2012 02:27 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Dick Clark was 56 and still hosting American Bandstand when Jamie Moyer, now 49, broke in.

First AB I watched featured Steely Dan playing "Do It Again".

Attended a taping of $10,000 Pyramid (inflation!) in 1975. Carol Burnett and Alan Alda were the guests. Husband of lady who won sat behind me and clapped louder than anyone I've ever heard clap. Dick did a good, professional job of moving those shows along.

I also liked that radio show he hosted that called New Yorkers at random and asked opera questions in the quest to give away a car.

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2012 02:48 PM
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Says it all:



Something happened along the way where the type of geniality he represented came to be seen as something worse than empty-headed; like it was all maliciously false. In the post-Nirvana/NWA world, it seemed there was virtually no place for him or his ilk on the dial, even as our entertainment channel options multiplied. Can Casey Kasem be far behind Dick?

And then Carson Daly came along around the turn of the century, and while many were vehemently against him, he had to have had some support, because he was everywehere. Were his fans just being hiply ironic?

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 18 2012 03:33 PM
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My main experience with Dick Clark growing up was "TV's Bloopers & Practical Jokes" which I loved, loved, loved and probably watched regularly after everyone else had given up. I was a weird child.

RIP.

G-Fafif
Apr 18 2012 03:41 PM
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Just crossing my mind was Dick's weekly Top 30 countdown (Dick Clark's National Music Survey) presented by Dr Pepper. Debuted on the day I graduated high school, June 21, 1981. Used Styx's "Too Much Time" for its bumpers. Its pick to click was Hall & Oates's "You Make My Dreams," and No. 1 was "Bette Davis Eyes" by Kim Carnes. Total AT40 knockoff. Didn't use Billboard, thus was blasphemy.

But a pleasant show for countdown freaks to enjoy when Casey Kasem wasn't on.

I heard "Dick Clark Presents Rewind With Gary Bryan" not that long ago some syndicated Sunday morning somewhere. Of late it's been mostly Gary Bryan, as you can imagine.

themetfairy
Apr 18 2012 03:44 PM
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It was weird - just this past weekend we were attempting to explain Dick Clark and American Bandstand to MK, and give him some understanding of just how iconic they were.

RIP Dick - you made your mark on the world, and it will never be the same!

Ashie62
Apr 18 2012 04:21 PM
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Inspirational after the stroke. I miss him already.

Frayed Knot
Apr 18 2012 08:18 PM
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It's a good thing that 'Here's Your First Subject' line was explained because I may be the only person on the planet who's never seen one minute of $___ Pyramid.

MFS62
Apr 18 2012 09:25 PM
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Before we moved back to NYC, I went to A.B. Davis High School (I think its now a Jr, High) in Mount Vernon, NY for one year. In the main hallway were pictures of famous alumni. Dick Clark was one of them, and I don't remember any others.

For those of you who watched American Bandstand - I guess his heart didn't have a good beat, It only got an 82.

RIP, Dick.

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 18 2012 10:15 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
It's a good thing that 'Here's Your First Subject' line was explained because I may be the only person on the planet who's never seen one minute of $___ Pyramid.


It really was a great game show, especially considering it relied to an extent on celebrities. I liked how the play reversed itself between the first round and the pyramid round.

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2012 10:26 PM
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Celebrities really seemed to put pressure on themselves because it sucked to be the weak link on the team when you were the one getting paid either way. There was also that rail that separated Dick from the competitors, reserving this private sanctum of teamwork for you and your celebrity. In between rounds, Dick would lean over the the rail and chat with you. He was the benevolent dockmaster, bidding you an encouraging Ahoy! but it was just you and the celebrity on the boat --- Gary Burghoff, Sherman Hemsley, Jerry Reed or Betty White. Pity you if it was Bob Denver.

The Second Spitter
Apr 19 2012 05:14 AM
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Men at Work band member Greg Ham (flautist) is going down under. Treated as homicide at this stage.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 19 2012 05:44 AM
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The Second Spitter wrote:
Men at Work band member Greg Ham (flautist) is going down under. Treated as homicide at this stage.


Police asking "Who can it be now?"

Seriously, I never knew that flute riff was controversial.

G-Fafif
Apr 19 2012 09:58 AM
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Ironically in a good week for Australian artists (one anyway) on the US charts.

List of singles by Australian acts which have topped the US Hot 100.
August 1971 How Can You Mend a Broken Heart? (Bee Gees)
December 1972 I Am Woman (Helen Reddy)
September 1973 Delta Dawn (Helen Reddy)
October 1974 I Honestly Love You (Olivia Newton-John)
December 1974 Angie Baby (Helen Reddy)
March 1975 Have You Never Been Mellow (Olivia Newton-John)
August 1975 Jive Talkin' (Bee Gees)
September 1976 You Should Be Dancing (Bee Gees)
July 1977 I Just Want To Be Your Everything (Andy Gibb)
December 1977 How Deep Is Your Love (Bee Gees)
February 1978 Stayin' Alive (Bee Gees)
March 1978 (Love Is) Thicker Than Water (Andy Gibb)
March 1978 Night Fever (Bee Gees)
June 1978 You're The One That I Want (Olivia Newton-John and John Travolta)
June 1978 Shadow Dancing (Andy Gibb)
January 1979 Too Much Heaven (Bee Gees)
March 1979 Tragedy (Bee Gees)
June 1979 Love You Inside Out (Bee Gees)
August 1980 Magic (Olivia Newton-John)
July 1981 The One That You Love (Air Supply)
August 1981 Jessie's Girl (Rick Springfield)
November 1981 Physical (Olivia Newton-John)
October 1982 Who Can It Be Now? (Men at Work)
January 1983 Down Under (Men at Work)
January 1988 Need You Tonight (INXS)
January 1998 Truly Madly Deeply (Savage Garden)
January 2000 I Knew I Loved You (Savage Garden)
April 2012 Somebody That I Used To Know (Gotye)

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2012 10:29 AM
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A bitter list for The Little River Band.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 19 2012 10:32 AM
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I never knew Helen Reddy was a She Sheila.

Chad Ochoseis
Apr 19 2012 10:37 AM
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I thought she was Canadian, until I realized I was thinking about Helen Reddy-conflatee Anne Murray.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2012 10:58 AM
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Cool Dick Clark remembrance at Grantland.

Clark never had a moment like that, where he tried to punch above his weight class, coolness-wise. He was described as the World's Oldest Teenager, but he never acted anything but his age. He was a cultural chaperone, a reassuring presence who convinced generations of parents that Iron Butterfly or Run-DMC or whoever might actually be (as he'd invariably say) nice young men with bright futures ahead of them, despite the threat they might have seemed to present to common decency.

Chad Ochoseis
Apr 19 2012 01:29 PM
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Levon Helm, 71, now feeling more than half past dead.

Ashie62
Apr 19 2012 02:27 PM
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His family wrote the goodbye note yesterday. His annual benefits to help pay Woodstock & Saugerties property taxes for the arts were well attended and fun.

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2012 03:00 PM
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Levon's website as first linked by Sharpie a few days back.

For a performer who had a great first act in life before that band -- THE Band -- broke up and then survived a nasty bout with throat cancer, Levon's career had a pretty good second act.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 19 2012 04:10 PM
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I am a LOT more bummed about his passing than I ever expected.

[youtube:3fep7jaw]4RjqcTsxx-8[/youtube:3fep7jaw]

Fman99
Apr 20 2012 10:53 AM
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Feel this way about all of the passed Band members, maybe it comes from having grown up so close to Big Pink, Woodstock and the places these guys called home for so long. I associate their music as the most American of sounds, despite the fact that they were all Canucks with the exception of Helm.

Frayed Knot
Apr 20 2012 11:35 AM
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I remember seeing a pairing of Rick Danko & Richard Manuel at the old 'Lone Star Cafe' in NYC, a performance that turned out to be one of their last as Manuel hung himself just a few weeks later. Hearing about that one, especially with the timing and all, was a real bummer. Just Robbie & Garth left now.

My impression is that the biggest post-Band feud was between Robbie & Levon although that may not be totally accurate.
Not sure if there have been any quotes from Robbie about him since yesterday.

sharpie
Apr 20 2012 02:04 PM
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Saw the Band at what was then the Oakland Coliseum in, I think, the summer of '75. Opened for Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. Great show.

Vic Sage
Apr 20 2012 02:36 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I remember seeing a pairing of Rick Danko & Richard Manuel at the old 'Lone Star Cafe' in NYC, a performance that turned out to be one of their last as Manuel hung himself just a few weeks later...


i used to go to that place all the time! saw Jorma, Levon, Willy Nelson, many other country/folk rocker types there, in the 1980s. It was an awful venue, with no good seats anywhere, but a consistently fun lineup of acts over the years. It had a giant lizard on the roof, and a banner that said "too much ain't enough".

i ran into a friend there one night. we were both out of work at the time and drinking heavily. we decided to just pick up and fly to Europe for a few weeks (People's Express = $99 to Brussels) and the next thing i knew i was getting a blowjob from a hooker in Amsterdam and eating space cakes at the Milkweg. Unemployment never tasted so sweet.

ah, youth. i miss you.

Frayed Knot
Apr 20 2012 03:14 PM
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Yeah, the LSC was a pretty bad venue comfort-wise under normal circumstances.
This particular show, fortunately, was a small, Sunday afternoon, and lightly-advertised one organized by DJ Pete Fornatale via his then Sunday morning radio program which catered to the kind of folk-rock and other stuff that was starting to fall through the cracks of increasingly formatted rock radio. So the bottom line (to invoke the name of another one-time venue) is that I wound up on a stool not more than twenty or so feet from the stage for short sets from not just Danko & Manuel but also Odetta, Roger McGuinn, and a handful of others I can't remember right now.

Oddly enough, I also suggested jetting to Europe and getting blow-jobs to the person I was with that day but, seeing as how it was my girlfriend at the time, that idea got shot down with extreme prejudice. Some people just have no sense of adventure.
And I wonder why she no longer speaks to me.

Fman99
Apr 20 2012 07:29 PM
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I just feel bad that I blew so many old men in Europe during my formative years.

sharpie
Apr 21 2012 04:08 PM
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Chuck Colson, 81.

Not many of the Watergate felons left. Gordon Liddy will be lonely at reunions, he'll have to talk with John Dean.

Frayed Knot
Apr 21 2012 09:13 PM
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Colson was one of those who suddenly found religion while sitting out a few years in rooms with the striped sunlight.



I guess if Liddy does find himself alone at some future Watergate reunion, he could always just have lengthy conversations with the voices in his head.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 21 2012 10:11 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Colson was one of those who suddenly found religion while sitting out a few years in rooms with the striped sunlight.


As a matter of fact I saw him speak at my college (invited by my evangelical friends, naturally) about his religious awakening.

TheOldMole
Apr 27 2012 03:42 PM
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Reports say Greg Ham of iconic Australian band Men at Work found dead in Melbourne home

G-Fafif
Apr 27 2012 10:42 PM
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DJ Pete Fornatale, 66.

Edgy MD
Apr 28 2012 06:52 AM
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We got a Fornatale thread going.

Covered Greg Ham on the previous page.

Fman99
Apr 28 2012 09:42 PM
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I must have listened to fifty hours of music by The Band in the last week. Time well spent.

sharpie
May 02 2012 03:59 PM
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Junior Seau, 43. Apparent suicide.

TransMonk
May 02 2012 04:10 PM
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Great football palyer. Too young.

Obviously had more problems than we will probably ever know.

RIP

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 02 2012 04:15 PM
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Read he was the 8th member of the Chargers SB team to be dead already. Making pro wrestlers look long-lived.

metirish
May 02 2012 04:22 PM
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Awful , speculation that he shot himself in the chest so his brain can be donated for science to study the effects of the brutality they go through playing in the NFL. Another player who did the same this last year donated his brain too.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 02 2012 05:24 PM
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Enjoy football while you can: in about another decade or two, the CTE evidence from this generation of players-- the overwhelming majority of it from repetitive subconcussive trauma-- will be un-fucking-deniable.

Edgy MD
May 02 2012 08:43 PM
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It is unfuckingdeniable now.

Obviously had more problems than we will probably ever know.


I think we know plenty.

metsmarathon
May 02 2012 10:13 PM
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i know enough to be sure that minimm will never be allowed to play football.

Fman99
May 03 2012 06:18 AM
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metsmarathon wrote:
i know enough to be sure that minimm will never be allowed to play football.


Same applies to Fboy. Not happening.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 03 2012 07:16 AM
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Yeah, we're moving Lunchpail directly into MMA. I already got him a bunch of douchy tattoos.

DocTee
May 08 2012 07:51 AM
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Maurice Sendak, 83.

Boo.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 08 2012 08:00 AM
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Let the wild rumpus begin.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 08 2012 08:54 AM
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"I don't care."

-Pierre, reached for comment

metirish
May 08 2012 09:01 AM
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It's rather unfortunate and unpleasant that James Gandolfini was the first thought that entered my head when I saw the news.

Benjamin Grimm
May 08 2012 09:04 AM
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Why? What's the connection between Maurice Sendak and Tony Soprano?

metirish
May 08 2012 09:14 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Why? What's the connection between Maurice Sendak and Tony Soprano?


He was in the movie of "Where The Wild Things Are".

Benjamin Grimm
May 08 2012 09:17 AM
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Oh! I didn't even remember that is was a movie.

Frayed Knot
May 09 2012 06:27 PM
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Vidal Sassoon - 84

metsmarathon
May 09 2012 07:34 PM
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i can't believe that was a real name

Frayed Knot
May 09 2012 07:38 PM
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metsmarathon wrote:
i can't believe that was a real name


He was Greek/British/Ukranian/Jewish. Perhaps his name is a common one amongst that tribe.

Edgy MD
May 09 2012 08:46 PM
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I assume the Rangers had an on-ice tribute to him this evening.

Frayed Knot
May 09 2012 08:50 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I assume the Rangers had an on-ice tribute to him this evening.


That was my first reaction too. Until I remembered that Sassoon was the hair-stylist and had nothing to do with Sasson jeans.
Because if he did I would have announced the news with an "Ooh, La-la, he's dead"

soupcan
May 11 2012 08:10 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I assume the Rangers had an on-ice tribute to him this evening.



Any New Yorker worth his salt fondly remembers that commercial.

[youtube]SNjntNHHUs0[/youtube]

I had friends that lived at Waterside Towers on 21st street on the East River and they told me that it was filmed at the ice rink in that complex but I don't know if that's true or just legend.

Edgy MD
May 11 2012 08:15 AM
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Phil Esposito had to be roped in as the future Hall of Famer in residence. But otherwise, it's hard to think of a more unlikely fashion model.

Frayed Knot
May 11 2012 08:17 AM
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Phil Esposito had to be roped in as the future Hall of Famer in residence. But otherwise, it's hard to think of a more unlikely fashion model.


Yeah, Phil was known for his jumbo-sized bum even during his younger playing days.


But the best thing about that commercial was the derisive rant it gave rise to whenever the team wasn't playing up to expectations (or for Islander fans at any point):
Ohh La-La YOU SUCK

G-Fafif
May 11 2012 08:47 AM
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Nicholas Katzenbach, one of JFK's "best and brightest," 90.

His six years in government put him in the thick of some of the major events of the ’60s. He advised President John F. Kennedy during the Cuban missile crisis, negotiated the release of Cuban prisoners captured during the Bay of Pigs invasion and pushed for an independent commission to investigate the Kennedy assassination. He was Robert F. Kennedy’s No. 2 in the Justice Department and took on J. Edgar Hoover, the pugnacious F.B.I. director, over his wiretapping of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. As an under secretary of state, he defended Johnson’s escalation of the Vietnam War before Congress.

“Few men have been so deeply involved in the critical issues of our time,” Johnson wrote to him when Mr. Katzenbach left government in 1968.

Perhaps his tensest moment came on June 11, 1963, when he confronted George C. Wallace in stifling heat on the steps of the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa. Mr. Wallace was the Alabama governor who had trumpeted “segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever” and vowed to block the admission of two black students “at the schoolhouse door.”

Mr. Katzenbach, in front of television cameras and flanked by a federal marshal and a United States attorney, approached Foster Auditorium, the main building on campus, around 11 a.m. Mr. Wallace was waiting behind a lectern at the top of the stairs, surrounded by a crowd of whites, some armed. “Stop!” he called out, raising his hand.

Mr. Katzenbach read a presidential proclamation ordering that the students be admitted and asked the governor to step aside peacefully. Mr. Wallace read a five-minute statement castigating “the central government” for “suppression of rights.”

Towering over Mr. Wallace, Mr. Katzenbach, a 6-foot-2-inch former college hockey goalie, was dismissive. “I’m not interested in this show,” he said.

About four hours later, with the acquiescence of the governor, Mr. Katzenbach escorted the students to register.

smg58
May 13 2012 10:16 AM
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Donald "Duck" Dunn, legendary bassist for Booker T. and the MG's who played on most of the great Stax recordings. And if you're younger than 50, you were probably introduced to his work courtesy of The Blues Brothers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 13 2012 10:28 AM
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Just caught that.

I'll be listening to a LOT of Stax today.

Edgy MD
May 13 2012 10:42 AM
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Big fan here.

[youtube:1o1vrm41]LMiYfu9OwrA[/youtube:1o1vrm41]

The Stax crew was definitely greater than the sum of their parts, but that's no insult to the gorgeous parts.

Edgy MD
May 13 2012 07:04 PM
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Does Adam Yauch and Donald Dunn mean there's a third bassist out there that needs to watch out?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 13 2012 10:07 PM
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"Baby aspirin is by my side... yes it is."

RealityChuck
May 17 2012 09:23 AM
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Jay Kay Klein If you're a science fiction fan, you know the name. He was the photographer of the field, taking tens of thousands of photos at all major SF cons since the 1940s. He also wrote a few short stories, as well as the "Biolog" feature in Analog. He was a member of First Fandom (an association of the earliest SF fans) for years.

Edgy MD
May 17 2012 09:47 AM
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Godfather of Go-Go Chuck Brown. If you're a fan of shakin' yo' ass, you know the name.

HahnSolo
May 17 2012 09:55 AM
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Chuck Brown dead?

Edgy MD
May 17 2012 09:57 AM
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Know thy Chuck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Brown

Benjamin Grimm
May 17 2012 09:59 AM
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And this only a few days after learning that Donald Duck had died. Bad week for cartoon characters.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 17 2012 10:09 AM
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Was there a cartoon character named Donna Summer? Cuz she's dead too.

sharpie
May 17 2012 10:10 AM
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Saw Chuck Brown a year or two ago at Celebrate Brooklyn. He brought the funk.

Mets – Willets Point
May 17 2012 10:11 AM
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RealityChuck wrote:
He was the photographer of the field, taking tens of thousands of photos at all major SF cons since the 1940s.


Trying to imagine what a science fiction con in the 1940s would be like. Probably not so much cosplay.

MFS62
May 17 2012 10:22 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Was there a cartoon character named Donna Summer? Cuz she's dead too.

Saw her perform at the Ives Center in Danbury about two years ago. Her voice was still great.
Shame, only 63.
http://news.yahoo.com/report-donna-summ ... 41578.html

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 17 2012 10:25 AM
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Freak-a-deak

Benjamin Grimm
May 17 2012 11:00 AM
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She'll boogie no more.

I think she had pretty much given up on boogieing anyway. I recall her saying that Satan was in her heart during her disco heyday.

Edgy MD
May 17 2012 11:03 AM
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Oh, she boogied. Heckuva performer. She would get standing O's for every single song in her setlist.

One of those hitmaking acts that so redefined her career with each hit that each one could anchor the set as the signature song for any number of lesser artists. If you were writing up her setlist, what would you choose for the encore?

[list]"Hot Stuff"? That would be cathartic!

"Dim All the Lights"? Show stopping!

Oh, you've got to go with "On Your Radio," right?! It's cinematic, it's heartbreaking, it's got a big tempo change!

Well then what do you do with "Last Dance"?[/list:u]

It's unpossible.

After the hit machine dried up, she nearly destroyed her viability as an oldies touring act by making some profoundly stupid remarks about AIDS. But people --- including gay people --- kept coming to see the machine, because she was so good at what she did.

(Oh and "Boogie Oogie Oogie" [the "Boogie no more" song] wasn't her, man.)

Benjamin Grimm
May 17 2012 11:06 AM
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Serves me right for trying to work in a musical reference.

Who was "Boogie No More" then?

Edgy MD
May 17 2012 11:10 AM
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A Taste of Honey.

Cool disco act that transcended the svengali-male/diva-chick thing by fronting themselves with chickz that played guitar and bass in addition to singing.

[youtube]DD7da-A0kWs[/youtube]

Mets – Willets Point
May 17 2012 11:25 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
But people --- including gay people --- kept coming to see the machine, because she was so good at what she did.



She worked hard for the money so the people gave her unconditional love.

That's how you work in a musical reference.

G-Fafif
May 17 2012 06:40 PM
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[youtube]LHRalpos8wU[/youtube]

To paraphrase from A Chorus Line, hello 16, hello 17, hello love. Donna Summer on my radio was as pervasive when I was in high school as her catalogue strikes me tonight as immortal. Embellished some of the best-crafted records of all-time. Transcended the genre of which she was reluctantly crowned queen. Plus everything had a great beat and you could dance to it.

I learned of her passing while at Citi Field for a 9-4 springtime win I will always associate with The Joys of Summer.

G-Fafif
May 20 2012 06:22 PM
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Bad week continues for the 1978 Billboard charts, as Robin Gibb, 62, loses his battle with cancer.

[youtube]sqsM-rhF8Ns[/youtube]

Barry left as the last of the Brothers Gibb.

G-Fafif
May 20 2012 06:30 PM
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Jesus, what a sad week and month in music. Peter Jones of Crowded House, dead at 45.

[youtube]J9gKyRmic20[/youtube]

TheOldMole
Jun 01 2012 10:54 AM
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Jack Tywman, early NBA star and best known to folks of my generation for taking care of Maurice Stokes, a teammate stricken with a debilitating brain disease. A good man.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 03 2012 10:54 AM
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Richard Dawson, 79.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 03 2012 10:59 AM
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ST. PETER: [Kisses family DAUGHTER on mouth, hard] "Oh, that's sweet. You're a peach. [Lingers a second too long, then] We asked 100 people how they felt about Richard Dawson's death. We're looking for... the top reactions to Richard Dawson's death. Mom?"

DAUGHTER: "He was alive? I thought he died in, like, 1989."

ST. PETER: "Let's see, 'Thought he died in 1989'... Survey SAYS... ["DING" sound effect] NUMber one answer."

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 03 2012 11:30 AM
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DAUGHTER: "He was alive? I thought he died in, like, 1989."

ST. PETER: "Let's see, 'Thought he died in 1989'... Survey SAYS... ["DING" sound effect] NUMber one answer."


This is creepy because a few days ago, I was visiting some friends and they were watching Hogan's Heroes episodes from a DVD box set. The dominant topic of conversation that unfolded was whether Richard Dawson was still alive. We all thought he was dead, though we weren't entirely sure.

Frayed Knot
Jun 03 2012 12:36 PM
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I would have said:
a) already dead
b) if not, a lot older than 79

Fman99
Jun 03 2012 08:54 PM
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Always loved Richard Dawson. The man did yeoman's work in The Running Man, lest we forget.

HahnSolo
Jun 04 2012 07:35 AM
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Also great on Match Game.

Edgy MD
Jun 04 2012 07:44 AM
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Great doesn't cover it. He was awesome. He was on the stupidest show in television and he took it seriously, intensely studying the contestants, pursing his lips, and putting the butt of his magic marker to his chin, and focusing-focusing-FOCUSING --- trying to create a panelist-contestant mind-meld with them in order to facilitate a match.

MFS62
Jun 04 2012 07:49 AM
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Fman99 wrote:
Always loved Richard Dawson. The man did yeoman's work in The Running Man, lest we forget.

Loved that movie.

There's a station on my cable provider called The Game Channel. (TGC) All day yesterday, they had re-runs of Richard Dawson hosted game shows.
RIP Richard.
Survey Says "You'll be missed".

Later

Fman99
Jun 04 2012 07:34 PM
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Rest in Peace, Mr. Trolololo guy.

And, because he deserves another view, here you go.

[youtube]?v=1orMXD_Ijbs[/youtube]

Mets – Willets Point
Jun 04 2012 08:02 PM
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Fman99 wrote:
Rest in Peace, Mr. Trolololo guy.

And, because he deserves another view, here you go.

[youtube]?v=1orMXD_Ijbs[/youtube]


Now that's entertainment! I missed that viral meme up until now.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 05 2012 08:03 AM
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My son was devastated that Mr. Trololo is dead. It was the big buzz in high school yesterday. Go figure.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 05 2012 08:05 AM
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I have to confess here I never really knew Richard Burton and Richard Dawson were different people.

MFS62
Jun 05 2012 08:16 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I have to confess here I never really knew Richard Burton and Richard Dawson were different people.


I don't know if Richard Dawson ever married Elizabeth Taylor. There were so many.
But he may have kissed her, for the same reason.

Later

themetfairy
Jun 05 2012 08:25 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I have to confess here I never really knew Richard Burton and Richard Dawson were different people.


OMG - that is so funny!

Edgy MD
Jun 05 2012 09:32 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Great doesn't cover it. He was awesome. He was on the stupidest show in television and he took it seriously, intensely studying the contestants, pursing his lips, and putting the butt of his magic marker to his chin, and focusing-focusing-FOCUSING --- trying to create a panelist-contestant mind-meld with them in order to facilitate a match.


Or, as Deadspin remembers:

He did a lotta years on Match Game and he was ALWAYS the one picked by the players in the "Final Match" and the "Super Match," because homeboy came to play. Always. He was a fucking GAMER. He wanted the guests to win. More than he wanted to make a funny with a wacky double-entendre answer to a question such as, "Her hands were full, so Dumb Dora dropped her car keys between her BLANK." Beyond the fun of the show and his responsibilities as a performer, when a contestant missed an easy one, or when he let the side down, he always looked like it meant something to him personally.

Chad Ochoseis
Jun 05 2012 11:07 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I'm trying to figure out where Deadspin found a writer old enough to remember Richard Dawson on Match Game and young enough to use the phrase "homeboy came to play".

themetfairy
Jun 05 2012 12:06 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Chad Ochoseis wrote:
I'm trying to figure out where Deadspin found a writer old enough to remember Richard Dawson on Match Game and young enough to use the phrase "homeboy came to play".


Perhaps he saw Family Feud in syndication.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 05 2012 01:54 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Watching Match Game reruns is like visiting an alternate universe of brightly-colored polyester and huge eyeglasses, where you just know that everybody except the contestants has been drinking. Heavily.

TransMonk
Jun 06 2012 09:27 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Ray Bradbury, 91.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/06/showbiz/r ... ?hpt=hp_c1

Edgy MD
Jun 06 2012 09:32 AM
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Globular guttersnot!

American treasure, that guy.

Mets – Willets Point
Jun 06 2012 09:51 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Edgy DC wrote:
Globular guttersnot!

American treasure, that guy.


Indubitably. I read Dandelion Wine (my favorite), The Martian Chronicles, Something Wicked This Way Comes, and Fahrenheit 451, but I remember him most for the tv show "Ray Bradbury Theater."

Edgy MD
Jun 06 2012 10:15 AM
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Farenheit 451 was literary cocaine to me.

Dandelion Wine was more like... well, wine, actually.

TheOldMole
Jun 06 2012 10:24 AM
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[youtube:33y1mw6a]59XyCSU2EWY&feature=related[/youtube:33y1mw6a]

Herb Reed, bass singer and last original Platter.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 06 2012 11:25 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I started reading a Ray Bradbury anthology a few days ago. Between this and my Richard Dawson experience of last week, I wonder if it's a good time for me to start wishing bad things on my enemies.

Chad Ochoseis
Jun 06 2012 03:24 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I started reading a Ray Bradbury anthology a few days ago. Between this and my Richard Dawson experience of last week, I wonder if it's a good time for me to start wishing bad things on my enemies.



In a related development, the Mets announced today that Jeff Wilpon has been moved to a secure bunker in an undisclosed location.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 07 2012 10:26 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

X-Fleetwood Mac Daddy and solo Beret Rocker Bob Welch, of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at 63.

I quite liked this record and 'Three Hearts" that followed it. Rock with a disco aesthetic, kinda what Steve Miller was trying to do back then with less blues basis.

[youtube:2t3zjf00]FnJOsfalSYs[/youtube:2t3zjf00]

Edgy MD
Jun 08 2012 04:50 AM
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Ah, shit, Bob Welch. Opening act of Cal Jam 1978 to this.

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2012 07:06 AM
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Welch's 'French Kiss' album--the one that spawned the above 'Ebony Eyes'-- was a fairly successful release.
I even saw him in concert around then. IIRC 'Clover' (essentially the forerunner for Huey Lewis + News) opened for the moderately popular in-their-day cast-offs from larger bands gone solo: Bob Welch & Dave Mason, doing a double bill. I believe Mason got top billing.

Not the most exciting show I ever attended but I don't remember any rotten fruit being tossed or anything.

Edgy MD
Jun 08 2012 07:18 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Dave Mason would eventually join an in-between version of Fleetwood Mac while Nicks, Buckingham, and McVie were all sitting out.



A seemingly wired (and also now deceased) Jeff Conaway interviews Bob Welch as he's getting set to go on as the opening act of Cal Jam 1978. Has the gall to ask Welch how it feels to give the best years of his rocking life to a band, only to quit just before they become the biggest band in America.

Bob responds by sticking it Jeff by rocking the morning crowd just about as hard as a man can do when going on at that hour and equipped with a middle-of-the-road single like "Ebony Eyes" and a simply awful stage costume.

Suck it, Jeff Conaway.

[youtube]B_m70-kUKGk[/youtube]

Edgy MD
Jun 08 2012 08:06 AM
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Can't find our Beret Rockers thread.

Welch had been a recovering junkie. Pretty awful to think of him reduced to suicide.

G-Fafif
Jun 08 2012 08:11 AM
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[youtube:q6wybi2g]LNiJx_WMB_s[/youtube:q6wybi2g]

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2012 08:22 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Edgy DC wrote:
Can't find our Beret Rockers thread.

Welch had been a recovering junkie. Pretty awful to think of him reduced to suicide.


Read where he had back troubles that recent surgery didn't fix.

RealityChuck
Jun 11 2012 06:03 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Frank Cady, an actor best known for playing Mr. Drucker in Green Acres and Petticoat Junction. He was 96.

Frayed Knot
Jun 12 2012 04:56 PM
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Teofilo Stevenson - 60

Dominating Cuban heavyweight boxer who won gold medals in the 1972, 1976, and 1980 Olympics while resisting (or being forced to do so) large amounts of money to fight professionally.
Was, and still remains, one of the biggest sports stars from Cuba.

SteveJRogers
Jun 13 2012 06:04 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Goodfella's Henry Hill dies at 69

Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2012 10:01 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

SteveJRogers wrote:
Goodfella's Henry Hill dies at 69


Cause of death was listed as a bad reaction to his last meal. He had ordered spaghetti with marinara but instead got egg noodles and ketchup.

smg58
Jun 13 2012 10:57 AM
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Serves him right for ordering pasta at an Irish pub.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 13 2012 11:48 AM
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I hope the church organist knows the "Layla" coda.

Fman99
Jun 13 2012 07:44 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
I hope the church organist knows the "Layla" coda.


BOC

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 17 2012 10:22 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Rodney King, 47.

Nymr83
Jun 17 2012 11:12 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Rodney King, 47.


I feel terrible for hisa wife who apparently found him dead in their swimming pool. No signs of foul play, police investigating (cameras watching...zing!)

Met Hunter
Jun 17 2012 01:18 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Nymr83 wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Rodney King, 47.


I feel terrible for hisa wife who apparently found him dead in their swimming pool. No signs of foul play, police investigating (cameras watching...zing!)


That investigation should last 5 minutes.

Edgy MD
Jun 17 2012 03:32 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I'll guess it lasts a lot longer than that.

Chad Ochoseis
Jun 19 2012 03:54 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Hosni Mubarak, 84 declared "clinically dead".

On the other hand, you never can tell in Egypt. Some sources say he's still on life support.

Vic Sage
Jun 20 2012 01:32 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Andrew Sarris, dean of American film criticism, author of THE AMERICAN CINEMA, the fundamental text of auteur film theory.
http://news.yahoo.com/leading-film-crit ... 42402.html

So long, Mr. Sarris, and thanks for all the fish.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 20 2012 01:36 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Strauss Auto stores, 4th round in Chapter 11, I think they're dead for for good this time.

I knew there was a problem when I attempted to take the Lunchmobile there earlier this month for an oil change and they told me they were out of oil. Seriously!

Vic Sage
Jun 20 2012 09:22 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Andrew Sarris, dean of American film criticism, author of THE AMERICAN CINEMA, the fundamental text of auteur film theory.
http://news.yahoo.com/leading-film-crit ... 42402.html

So long, Mr. Sarris, and thanks for all the fish.


i won't allow Mr. Sarris' passing to go unnoticed and bumped by a car shop.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 21 2012 05:24 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

RIP Mr. Sarris

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 21 2012 05:30 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

What about a famous artist?

LeRoy Nieman, 91

G-Fafif
Jun 21 2012 06:13 AM
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RealityChuck
Jun 23 2012 06:02 PM
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Broadway composer and lyricist Richard Adler. With Jerry Ross, he won two consecutive Tonys for The Pajama Game and Damn Yankees!.

Here's one of his songs. You should be able to guess the choreographer the minute the dancers come on stage:
[youtube]0szHqIXQ2R8[/youtube]

The most appropriate for this forum (and maybe the theme song for the Mets this year):

[youtube]Ry8CpIg2fvU[/youtube]


His best-known song wasn't from any musical, however:
[youtube]p4qslTTVNt4[/youtube]

G-Fafif
Jun 24 2012 05:48 PM
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A high school classmate, I learned through Facebook, about the dozenth we've lost, I think, since ninth grade or thereabouts. I'm not sure of the circumstances, and I only vaguely recall the person involved (a perfectly lovely girl with a very high academic ranking and very short hair if I'm putting the name to the face correctly), but beyond being a little sad, I notice it no longer seems strange. It was weird losing 18- or 23-year-old classmates. This person would have been 48 or 49.

Still too young.

themetfairy
Jun 24 2012 06:05 PM
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I'm sorry for your news Greg.

metirish
Jun 25 2012 06:54 AM
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Sorry to hear that Greg


Lonesome George dead

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bre ... king3.html

MFS62
Jun 25 2012 08:22 AM
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metirish wrote:

Lonesome George dead

The last of the species.
RIP, old guy.

Later

soupcan
Jun 25 2012 08:23 AM
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Sorry for your loss Greg.

I can relate. I'll be 48 this November and I'm amazed that 3 guys that were in my fraternity have passed. 3! To me that is just inconceivable.

One was cancer, one was a heart attack and the third - while its never been said - I'm certain was drug and/or alcohol related.

Very humbling stuff.

Oh and by the way - all of them were younger than me.

themetfairy
Jun 25 2012 08:36 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I can top that - I reached three by the time I was 28. My high school class had a slew of deaths in the decade after we graduated. What's more, they included a presumed mob rubout, a suicide and a mauling by a tiger at the Bronx Zoo (she was a zookeeper there).

soupcan
Jun 25 2012 09:14 AM
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Holy crap!

Frayed Knot
Jun 25 2012 10:30 AM
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It's possible that all your classes have been particularly unlucky to lose members so young - but there's also a decent chance that it only seems that way to you because it's your group and that from an actuarial standpoint it's nothing unusual at all.

I've seen numbers in the past (and I'm sure in this internet age someone can dig some up some up) detailing what pct of your HS class you could expect to be dead not only 20 and 30 years down the road but even just 5 and 10. The odds may be long against any individual dying at those ages but, when extrapolated out to a large enough group, deaths from accidents, crime, (yes, even including mob rubouts), military, or various oddities starts to add up long before you get to the point where even early deaths from things that can be termed "natural causes" starts to seem vaguely appropriate.

I haven't kept up with past classes enough to know what status my group(s) are in, but I'd be shocked if there weren't numerous names I'd recognize who have been gone for years.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 26 2012 07:06 PM
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Nora Ephron, you've got eulogies.

I had no idea she was that old.

Ashie62
Jun 26 2012 07:46 PM
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Man you guys are fast.

Edgy MD
Jun 26 2012 09:15 PM
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Ephron was one of Bret Sabermetric's specialties. I thought she was kind of beneath him --- F. Scott Fitzgerald, Frank O'Connor... Nora Ephron --- but he insisted she was nothing to sneeze at, literarily. I had to give him the benefit of the doubt.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 26 2012 10:37 PM
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Her writing shames her stuff for the screen, frankly. I've read some of her stuff in a couple of non-fiction writing courses I've taken; take the brand name off of it, and some of the memoir/personal essay stuff can stand toe-to-toe with Tobias Wolff, or Didion (only funnier).

themetfairy
Jun 27 2012 06:29 PM
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My Three Son's Don Grady

Mets – Willets Point
Jun 28 2012 08:52 AM
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Infomercial pioneer Barry Becher.

His tombstone will be carved with a Ginsu Knife with the epitaph "But wait there's more!"

G-Fafif
Jun 28 2012 02:12 PM
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Former Knick Pat Cummings, 55.

seawolf17
Jun 28 2012 02:21 PM
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Dave Alexander, who's been coaching our swim/dive teams here at Stony Brook since 1979.

HahnSolo
Jun 28 2012 02:43 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Former Knick Pat Cummings, 55.


Wow. RIP ShortCummings.

Frayed Knot
Jun 30 2012 07:03 PM
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Former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir - 96

MFS62
Jul 01 2012 01:06 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Frayed Knot wrote:
Former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir - 96

Alevai Sholom.

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 02 2012 11:10 AM
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Soccer writer David Wangerin. I read his book Soccer in a Football World last year which is a fascinating history of soccer in the US from the late 1800s to today. Surprisingly he actually had a lot of history to cover and it was very interesting.

themetfairy
Jul 03 2012 08:17 AM
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RIP Andy Griffith

metirish
Jul 03 2012 08:19 AM
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Damn, I would have sworn he was already dead.....

Rest in Peace and thanks for the laughs.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 03 2012 08:22 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

metirish wrote:
Damn, I would have sworn he was already dead.....

Rest in Peace and thanks for the laughs.


same

MFS62
Jul 03 2012 08:29 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
metirish wrote:
Damn, I would have sworn he was already dead.....

Rest in Peace and thanks for the laughs.


same

Same.

I wonder who is going to take care of Opie.

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 03 2012 08:51 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I knew he was still alive. (And so, by the way, is Don Rickles!) What I didn't know is that his theme song had lyrics. Here they are, in Andy's own voice:

[youtube:1qc4v2lx]6PVUit1-0Ck[/youtube:1qc4v2lx]

Edgy MD
Jul 03 2012 09:16 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Oh, I knew he was a-livin'.

I think about Andy Griffith a lot. If you haven't, check out A Face in the Crowd sometime, in which Andy --- before his eponymous show made him a household name --- demonstrates the really dark side of the hold of that his genial hayseed character had. From the beginning to the end, it's really chilling how well that film saw the future.

Frayed Knot
Jul 03 2012 11:03 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I knew Griffith was still alive as he was doing some televised public service ads for health care in the last year or so that got some publicity.
Actually I don't think they were specifically 'public service' announcements but rather some sort of advocacy ads - which of course was what generated the publicity.

Ashie62
Jul 04 2012 10:22 PM
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Check out Andy's comedy on 50's Fireside Radio.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 05 2012 08:19 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Edgy DC wrote:
Oh, I knew he was a-livin'.

I think about Andy Griffith a lot. If you haven't, check out A Face in the Crowd sometime, in which Andy --- before his eponymous show made him a household name --- demonstrates the really dark side of the hold of that his genial hayseed character had. From the beginning to the end, it's really chilling how well that film saw the future.


When I saw A Face in the Crowd for the first time ever about five or six years ago, I couldn't believe that I was viewing a film that was about 50 years old. What a precocious, way ahead of its' time flick, I thought. Recommended. Three thumbs up! And it's on tonight on TCM.

Frayed Knot
Jul 09 2012 07:31 AM
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Ernest Borgnine - 95

It's a pretty nice run when, despite getting a late start in acting (mid-30s) and being neither tall nor handsome, just four years into your career Grace Kelly is handing you the Best Actor Oscar for the lead role in 'Marty' over competition consisting of James Cagney, Frank Sinatra, James Dean, and Spencer Tracy; and then you get to enjoy looking at the statue for the next half-century while working steadily for virtually all that time up to and including your very last year.

MFS62
Jul 09 2012 07:38 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

McHale, I salute you!
RIP, Ernie.

Later

Edgy MD
Jul 09 2012 07:49 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012



Marty: the answer that Herbie Stempel was forced to gakk on, leading to his demise.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 15 2012 04:22 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Celeste Holm, 95. Was in, among other things, All About Eve.

Ashie62
Jul 15 2012 09:43 PM
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Rutgers football coach Frank Burns 84

[url]http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2012/07/frank_burns_former_rutgers_foo.html

Edgy MD
Jul 16 2012 07:50 AM
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Went to a public discussion by Celeste Holm when I was in college. Close to Princess Grace in her Hollywood days, so that's all anybody wanted to ask her about. Come to think about it, it might have been some sort of anniversary for the princess and that was the point of the appearance in the first place. Always had to remind myself that she wasn't related to Ian Holm.

Actually, I saw Frank Burns when I was in college too --- in the form of actor Larry Linville. The topic of his lecture was pretty much that M*A*S*H* was awesome pretty much right up to the time he left, an that Mike Farrell was an intolerable tool.

sharpie
Jul 16 2012 08:18 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Spoke with Celeste Holm on the phone in the mid '80's when I was working for the Theatre Guild. The only reason I spoke to her was that everyone else ducked her calls as she tended to keep people on the phone for long stretches talking about whatever her minor complaints of the day were.

Ashie62
Jul 16 2012 10:30 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Edgy DC wrote:
Went to a public discussion by Celeste Holm when I was in college. Close to Princess Grace in her Hollywood days, so that's all anybody wanted to ask her about. Come to think about it, it might have been some sort of anniversary for the princess and that was the point of the appearance in the first place. Always had to remind myself that she wasn't related to Ian Holm.

Actually, I saw Frank Burns when I was in college too --- in the form of actor Larry Linville. The topic of his lecture was pretty much that M*A*S*H* was awesome pretty much right up to the time he left, an that Mike Farrell was an intolerable tool.


Frank was a great man, no need to belittle him Edgy..

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 16 2012 11:02 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I have to say, when I saw the name "Frank Burns" I thought of Larry Linville too. Never heard of the football coach. (In England, by the way, a "football coach" is a bus full of soccer players.)

Fun fact about Celeste Holm: She married her fifth husband at the age of 87. He was 42.

Edgy MD
Jul 16 2012 11:03 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I didn't belittle him. I made an aside which noted a coincidence.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 16 2012 11:41 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Stop disrespecting busses already.

Edgy MD
Jul 16 2012 11:57 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Am I missing something? Pretty strange to field two objections in two days for noting the similarity of the name of a forum subject with that of a CBS character from the seventies.

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 16 2012 12:05 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I'm sure Bugs Meany was behind this. Turn to the back of the book for the solution.

Swan Swan H
Jul 16 2012 12:23 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I'm sure Bugs Meany was behind this. Turn to the back of the book for the solution.


I ate those books up when I was a kid. I was a big reader, and Encyclopedia Brown, Chip Hilton and Henry Huggins were among my best friends back then.

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 16 2012 01:15 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Swan Swan H wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I'm sure Bugs Meany was behind this. Turn to the back of the book for the solution.


I ate those books up when I was a kid. I was a big reader, and Encyclopedia Brown, Chip Hilton and Henry Huggins were among my best friends back then.


Me too. I read a ton of Encyclopedia Brown. I was never smart enough to figure them out on my own.

Ashie62
Jul 16 2012 02:49 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Ashie62 wrote:
Rutgers football coach Frank Burns 84

[url]http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2012/07/frank_burns_former_rutgers_foo.html


Back when the college All Stars players the NFL champs Burns played QB and MLB and made 17 tackles against the NY Giants.

He was coach in 1977 for the "whats a Rutgers" 7-3 win at Tennessee and the near win against #1 Alabama at the Meadowlands..

His replacement was meant to usher in a higher caliber of competition but until Schiano it was not so.

Passed with his family last weekend.

No his son in law is not named Tuttle.

There were no survivors.

Chad Ochoseis
Jul 16 2012 08:10 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Stephen Covey, 79, no longer highly effective.

smg58
Jul 16 2012 09:17 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Deep Purple keyboardist Jon Lord, 71.

Vic Sage
Jul 17 2012 11:10 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

even though i couldn't play guitar, i could play the opening phrases of SMOKE ON THE WATER.

DUM DUM DUM
DUM DUM de DUM
DUM DUM DUM ...DUM... DUM

G-Fafif
Jul 19 2012 11:59 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Robert W. Creamer, 90, original SI writer, biographer of Casey Stengel and Babe Ruth.

Great interview from earlier this year here. Love the digression on Jimmy Cannon.

Edgy MD
Jul 19 2012 03:05 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

G-Fafif wrote:
Robert W. Creamer, 90, original SI writer, biographer of Casey Stengel and Babe Ruth.

Been reading The Gospel According to Casey on the commute --- borrows heavily from the Creamer bio.

themetfairy
Jul 19 2012 04:30 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Tom Davis, of Franken & Davis.

G-Fafif
Jul 20 2012 10:45 PM
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Sylvia Woods, 86, legendary Harlem restaurateur.

Being at Sylvia’s was like being at your mother’s table, several regulars said. Ms. Woods doted on everyone, they said, always asking, “What can I get you to eat?”

Edgy MD
Jul 23 2012 03:20 PM
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Sally Ride, superstar.

TransMonk
Jul 23 2012 03:51 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

17 years of pancreatic cancer?

Now that's a fighter. RIP.

Edgy MD
Jul 23 2012 05:55 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

If you think about it, she was probably one of the most thoroughly vetted persons for a job in the past few decades. If makeup means anything, she had it.

TransMonk
Jul 23 2012 07:57 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
17 years of pancreatic cancer?

Now that's a fighter. RIP.

Boy did I read that wrong this afternoon...17 MONTH battle with pancreatic cancer.

Still a fighter. Still sad.

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 24 2012 07:32 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I've heard pancreatic cancer is one of the most painful forms of cancer too. Another hero of my childhood gone.

MFS62
Jul 24 2012 09:02 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Was looking at the Seattle paper for an Ichiro tribute and found this:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... it23m.html

RIP JP Patches.
You made a lot of people happy.

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 24 2012 09:25 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

MFS62 wrote:
Was looking at the Seattle paper for an Ichiro tribute and found this:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... it23m.html

RIP JP Patches.
You made a lot of people happy.

Later


Don't let Mary Tyler Moore read the eulogy.

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2012 02:54 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

George Jefferson, movin on up

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/sherman-hemsley-dead-dies-the-jeffersons_n_1699590.html

Edgy MD
Jul 24 2012 06:41 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Knocked 'em dead on three different hit TV shows. Not a lot of folks could say that. Also did a smashing James Brown-imitiation dance routine.

Most of all, played hooky from his introductory dinner with the Bunkers to catch the Mets at Shea.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 25 2012 04:59 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

He's not a doctor, but he played one on TV: Chad Everett at 75.

[url]http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/general/view/20120725actor_chad_everett_star_of_tvs_medical_center_dies_at_75/

The Second Spitter
Jul 25 2012 05:13 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I've heard pancreatic cancer is one of the most painful forms of cancer too. Another hero of my childhood gone.


From witnessing what my Pop endured, I can attest to this.

TheOldMole
Jul 25 2012 08:21 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Larry Hoppen, great friend, great singer, dead at 61. He's Still the One.

Edgy MD
Jul 25 2012 09:45 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

That's too young. Very sorry.

TransMonk
Jul 26 2012 07:30 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

RIP

Edgy MD
Jul 26 2012 07:40 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Hoppen's the short, Van Morrison-y one with the soulful stare on the lower right?

TransMonk
Jul 26 2012 07:44 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012



I believe Larry's in the middle here. Lots of Hoppens in that band.

RealityChuck
Jul 26 2012 01:44 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Mary Tamm, who played the first Romana on classic Doctor Who.



One of my favorites among the Doctor's companions (next to Leela, of course) and one of the few who avoided the "damsel in distress" trope (most of the time). She was only there for one season before quitting because the role was devolving back to the norm for his female companions: someone whose role was to ask, "What's that, Doctor?" and get into trouble.

Oddly, I just started rewatching that season of Classic Who (the first with a season-long story arc: "The Key to Time").

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 27 2012 08:01 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

TheOldMole wrote:
Larry Hoppen, great friend, great singer, dead at 61. He's Still the One.


Great singer, sorry to hear this.

metirish
Jul 30 2012 05:03 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Maeve Binchy , great writer


RIP

Kong76
Jul 30 2012 07:16 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

[youtube:1ro161u0]5fZBiqVjEhw&noredirect=1[/youtube:1ro161u0]

Kong76
Jul 30 2012 07:27 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Don't judge DP by Smoke is all I'm saying, and if anyone made
it through that ... Ritchie did it better back in the day and it
wasn't Dum Dum Dum hahaha.

TransMonk
Jul 31 2012 11:52 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Gore Vidal, 86

RIP

Fman99
Aug 01 2012 06:13 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I read and enjoyed many of his books over the years. Historical fiction is a nice break from historical non-fiction, for me at least. Yet I am reminded of this exchange from season 7 of the Simpsons:

Marge: So, did you call any of your friends?
Lisa: Friends? [scoffs] These are my only friends. [holds up a book] Grownup nerds like Gore Vidal, and even he's kissed more boys than I ever will.
Marge: Girls, Lisa. Boys kiss girls.

MFS62
Aug 01 2012 07:42 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

RIP, Gore Vidal.
Later

Edgy MD
Aug 01 2012 12:30 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

The New York Times"]Correction: August 1, 2012

An earlier version misstated the term Mr. Vidal called William F. Buckley Jr. in a debate. It was crypto-Nazi, not crypto-fascist.

Fman99
Aug 01 2012 08:59 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

In a car accident today, a childhood friend of mine, a guy who grew up six houses down from me, that I played Monopoly and Star Wars toys with, who camped out with my brother and I in our backyard, who I rode bikes with to the neighborhood pool. And his wife. Leaving two kids behind. Just tragic.

I have seen him a few times over the years, when home visiting my parents, and had a chance to introduce him to my wife.

He would have turned 38 next week.

Don't take your days for granted, folks. No guarantees in life.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 01 2012 09:06 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

That sucks. holy crap

themetfairy
Aug 01 2012 09:35 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I'm so sorry, my friend.

Edgy MD
Aug 01 2012 09:35 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

That's awful.

My friend Brian works on traffic safety with the passion others bring to cancer research. Forty-thousand-plus deaths per year in the US alone.

metsmarathon
Aug 02 2012 07:25 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

fuck, that's awful.

sharpie
Aug 02 2012 07:25 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Sorry to hear about your friend.

A friend of my daughter's was killed about a week ago, riding his motorcycle and clipped by a car, he caromed into oncoming traffic, got hit and was decapitated. She was quite upset.

TransMonk
Aug 02 2012 07:26 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Yeah, bad news...sorry, Fman.

bmfc1
Aug 02 2012 07:43 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

So sorry fman99.

G-Fafif
Aug 02 2012 08:26 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Deepest condolences, Fman.

metirish
Aug 02 2012 08:29 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Fman99 wrote:
In a car accident today, a childhood friend of mine, a guy who grew up six houses down from me, that I played Monopoly and Star Wars toys with, who camped out with my brother and I in our backyard, who I rode bikes with to the neighborhood pool. And his wife. Leaving two kids behind. Just tragic.

I have seen him a few times over the years, when home visiting my parents, and had a chance to introduce him to my wife.

He would have turned 38 next week.

Don't take your days for granted, folks. No guarantees in life.




awful , truly awful......


Poughkeepsie police said was caused by a vehicle driving aggressively.



I encounter assholes like this at least once a week driving home on the southbound sprain brook , driving at high speeds and weaving in and out of traffic, usually it seems like two assholes are racing each other.......and now this asshole is ok while these kids are left without parents.........fucking prick.

seawolf17
Aug 02 2012 08:36 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I've been thinking about your friend and his wife and their kids ever since I saw your post; laying in bed this morning, driving to work, sitting here. I clicked through to your friend's facebook profile, and having kids that age myself... I just can't imagine.

Fman99
Aug 02 2012 08:39 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Thanks all. I'm a hot mess today; I woke up my kids this morning by hugging them and crying on their pajamas. I think they thought I was having a seizure or something. Working from home so I have proper space to deal with my womanly slop.

Like I posted on Facebook, for those of you who aren't on Facebook -- do me a favor today. Tell someone you love them. Hug your children, your spouse, your partner, your parents. Don't wait another day to tell them how you feel.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2012 08:42 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

seawolf17 wrote:
I've been thinking about your friend and his wife and their kids ever since I saw your post; laying in bed this morning, driving to work, sitting here. I clicked through to your friend's facebook profile, and having kids that age myself... I just can't imagine.

Yeah, those are pictures of a man who loved his kids wildly.

Swan Swan H
Aug 02 2012 09:07 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Those kids.... I can't even conceive of the grief and shock those poor kids are going through. I hope they can be surrounded by love, and shielded, at least for now, from the proper anger toward the unspeakable bastard that took their parents from them.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 02 2012 09:11 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

At the very, VERY least, they'll have each other.

I'm at a loss, and getting mildly slop-py myself. I'm so very sorry, man.

The Second Spitter
Aug 02 2012 09:11 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Fman99 wrote:
In a car accident today, a childhood friend of mine, a guy who grew up six houses down from me, that I played Monopoly and Star Wars toys with, who camped out with my brother and I in our backyard, who I rode bikes with to the neighborhood pool. And his wife. Leaving two kids behind. Just tragic.

I have seen him a few times over the years, when home visiting my parents, and had a chance to introduce him to my wife.

He would have turned 38 next week.

Don't take your days for granted, folks. No guarantees in life.


I'm real sorry for your loss man. He was like 2 weeks older than me. My thoughts and prayers to you.

Swan Swan H
Aug 07 2012 08:47 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Marvin Hamlisch, 68, from a brief illness. My personal favorite memory of Marvin is that he was the piano player for Groucho Marx in his legendary concert at Carnegie Hall, released as as 'An Evening With Groucho,' but of course he had a very long and successful career.

According to reports, Hamlisch was one of just two people to win a Tony, Emmy, Oscar, Grammy, and Pulitzer Prize. The other was Carrot Top. (Richard Rogers, actually).

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 07 2012 09:18 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

[youtube]3OSOl3ykv50[/youtube]

I can't get enough of The Sting soundtrack.



RIP

Swan Swan H
Aug 07 2012 09:27 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

batmagadanleadoff wrote:

I can't get enough of The Sting soundtrack.

RIP



For sure. We had a pool table in the basement in the mid '70s, and listened to nothing but The Sting soundtrack and Jim Croce when we played.

themetfairy
Aug 07 2012 09:53 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

He wrote the music for They're Playing Our Song, which was an entertaining Broadway musical of the late '70s starring Robert Klein and Lucie Arnaz. I still listen to the soundtrack on occasion; I'm going to put the CD in my car right now.

RIP Marvin

Frayed Knot
Aug 07 2012 10:29 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

And, of course, Lisa Lupner told Todd that she was saving herself for her one true love: Marvin Hamlisch

Edgy MD
Aug 07 2012 05:42 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

[youtube]3OSOl3ykv50[/youtube]

I can't get enough of The Sting soundtrack.



RIP



I have a friend who's got to be 91 or so, but she's active and energetic and nobody dares ask how old she actually is. She also has symphony tickets to the NSO Pops Orchestra and gives us the tickets at least once a year. She's one of those people who, because of a subscription that's lasted untold decades, has moved up to like the sixth row.

The NSO Pops, in recent years has been directed and conducted by Hamlisch. My wife, totally unused to the cadences of Jewish New York comedy, had become as much a fan of Marvin's between-songs shtick as the actual music. Among the shows we were privileged to see was their tribute to Richard Rogers, which was a worthwhile evening just with the opener of the overture from Carousel.

Between songs he'd recall his favorite Richard Rogers shows and stories, interviewed Rogers' daughter (not a bad dramatic composer in her own right), and told a tidbit about going on the Mike Douglas show in the glorious seventies. Mike, liking family acts, asked Hamlish to bring his mother, and she whipped up a Jewish Brooklyn meal during Douglas' cooking segment.

[list]Douglas: Mrs. Hamlisch, who's your favorite composer?

Mrs. Hamlisch: Oh, Richard Rogers!

Marvin Hamlisch: (Crestfallen faceplant...)

Mrs. Hamlisch: What? I couldn't lie. We're on TV![/list:u]

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 08 2012 08:40 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Fman, just saw this & read the news report. So sorry, that's just horrible. I did tell my peeps I love em.

Reach out if you need anything.

Fman99
Aug 08 2012 10:27 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
Fman, just saw this & read the news report. So sorry, that's just horrible. I did tell my peeps I love em.

Reach out if you need anything.


Thanks bro. The funeral services were yesterday, I drove down to Poughkeepsie for them. It was a long and sad day.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 10 2012 08:34 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Humorist/author (Fraud, Half Empty) and prolific "This American Life" contributor David Rakoff, 47 (cancer).

G-Fafif
Aug 11 2012 05:30 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Irving Fein, manager of Jack Benny (his biographer, too) and George Burns, 101.

Vic Sage
Aug 13 2012 02:05 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

comic book legend Joe Kubert. He was 85.

He was best known to me for his work at DC, first on HAWKMAN, starting in the 40s, and later on SGT ROCK and TARZAN. I came to know him in the 70s through a quirky little book called RAGMAN, which i liked alot. I then went back and sought out reprints of the earlier stuff, including his 50s work on TOR. In his later years, he did some groundbreaking work on graphic novels with the award-winning non-fiction work FAX FROM SARAJEVO, and with YOSSEL, a very personal work about the Warsaw uprising of 1943. He also created a well-regarded school for comicbook artists, and turned out 2 well-regarded comicbook artist sons, as well.

S'long, Joe, and thanks for all the fish.

Kong76
Aug 13 2012 02:17 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Sorry Fman, little slow to this thread.
Sad story, losing friends young sucks bhmc.

Edgy MD
Aug 13 2012 02:20 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Helen Gurley Brown, editor, maniac, dead at 90.

Fman99
Aug 13 2012 07:09 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Kong76 wrote:
Sorry Fman, little slow to this thread.
Sad story, losing friends young sucks bhmc.


Thanks Kase. Sad indeed.

Swan Swan H
Aug 14 2012 11:32 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Ron Palillo, a.k.a. Arnold Horshack, 63. That's two Sweathogs this year. Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs is hiding under his bed. No word on who or what John Travolta is hiding under.

Swan Swan H
Aug 15 2012 05:29 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Joan Roberts, who played Laurey in the original cast of 'Oklahoma' died at age 95. Ms. Roberts lived across the street from the house my wife lived in during the '70s in Rockville Centre.

metirish
Aug 20 2012 05:54 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Tony Scott , jumped off the Los Angeles harbour bridge .

Wow

Edgy MD
Aug 20 2012 07:10 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Amazing. Really busy dude. Hit his IMDB page and he's got a dozen things in production. Two years ago I was stuck at a convention on PPV'd his last movie --- Unstoppable --- a runaway train movie starring Denzel Washington and young Captain Kirk. As stupidly watchable as most of his films.

The Tony Scott filmography is hidden in this thread.

sharpie
Aug 20 2012 08:29 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Scott McKenzie, who sang San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair).

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/187329/ ... isco-dies/

MFS62
Aug 20 2012 08:42 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

sharpie wrote:
Scott McKenzie, who sang San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair).

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/187329/ ... isco-dies/

San Francisco was a medley of images in those days - the flower children and the GIs getting on the boats in SF harbor to go to 'Nam.

Later

TransMonk
Aug 20 2012 01:59 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

metirish wrote:
Tony Scott , jumped off the Los Angeles harbour bridge .

Wow

True Romance is one of my faves all time.

Phyllis Diller...95.

RIP to both.

Swan Swan H
Aug 20 2012 02:43 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

TransMonk wrote:

Phyllis Diller...95.


I should send a card to Fang.

SteveJRogers
Aug 20 2012 06:15 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Amazing. Really busy dude. Hit his IMDB page and he's got a dozen things in production. Two years ago I was stuck at a convention on PPV'd his last movie --- Unstoppable --- a runaway train movie starring Denzel Washington and [crossout]young Captain Kirk[/crossout] Chris Pine, Kirk in the Star Trek reboot. As stupidly watchable as most of his films.

The Tony Scott filmography is hidden in this thread.


No...just...no.

OE: There, that's better.

MFS62
Aug 20 2012 09:46 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

RIP to Tony and Phyllis.
They entertained us in very different ways.

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 24 2012 11:46 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Jerry Nelson, Muppet puppeteer, aged 78.

[youtube]N7yAe2MBIpE[/youtube]

Ashie62
Aug 24 2012 06:08 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

MFS62 wrote:
Scott McKenzie, who sang San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair).

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/187329/ ... isco-dies/

San Francisco was a medley of images in those days - the flower children and the GIs getting on the boats in SF harbor to go to 'Nam.

Later



you betcha

RealityChuck
Aug 24 2012 07:43 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Josepha Sherman.

The name probably means nothing to you, but if you knew her, this is an immense shock.

Josepha was a fantasy and folklore author. She wrote about a dozen novels, plus several Star Trek and Buffy the Vampire Slayer tie-ins. Her stories appeared in dozens of anthologies. She was a collector of folklore, probably best known for Greasy Grimy Gopher Guts: The Subversive Folklore of Childhood as well as for biographies, and other writing (I remember when she was delighted in selling a coloring book -- the lines at the bottom of each page). She was also a freelance editor for Baen Books for quite a few years.

And if you went to a science fiction convention in the northeast, you invariably ran into her. She was one of the leading lights behind the "It Came From the Slushpile" panels at Lunacon, and was a fixture there, at Boskone, and at Readercon. She was always a delight to hang out with, and was known to spontaneously break into showtunes at the drop of a hat.

I got to know her in the late 80s on panels and at parties. She was the life of the party any time she showed up (and with no alcohol needed). At odd intervals she'd turn to you and say, "Hiiii" and wave.

She was also a great friend. Back in the 90s, I sent a novel to her at Baen. They rejected, pretty much with a form. The next time I saw her, without even my mentioning it, she took me aside and said, "You are a good writer." I treasure that moment.

I hadn't realized she'd been sick, since I'm not attending many cons these days, and the news was an utter shock. I'm deeply saddened to hear it.

That's her on the left, with Esther Friesner.

Frayed Knot
Aug 25 2012 01:36 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Neil Armstrong - 82

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 25 2012 03:35 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Bad week for guys named Armstrong. Somebody check on Louis...

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 25 2012 04:17 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Only 9 people left who have walked on the moon, the last on December 14, 1972.

Frayed Knot
Aug 25 2012 05:53 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Only 9 people left who have walked on the moon, the last on December 14, 1972.


I get eight: Pete Conrad (12), Alan Shepard (14), James Irwin (15) are also deceased in addition to now Armstrong.
Left are Aldrin, Alan Bean (12), Edgar Mitchell (14), David Scot (15), John Young (16), Charles Duke (16), Harrison Schmitt (17), Gene Cernan (17)
Schmitt at 77 is the youngest

Twelve more went as far as the moon but never set foot including Jim Lovell twice (8 + 13). Nine of them are still around.
Young & Cernan both orbited with 10 and later set foot via 16 & 17 joining Lovell as the only two-timers.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 25 2012 06:10 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Rats, worse than I thought. It's amazing how something so "futuristic" is rapidly becoming something of the bygone past.

Edgy MD
Aug 25 2012 07:52 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

It's been so long that I'm starting to become a disbeliever.

Frayed Knot
Aug 25 2012 08:21 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Edgy DC wrote:
It's been so long that I'm starting to become a disbeliever.


Checking the films for the flapping flags, are you?

Edgy MD
Aug 25 2012 09:06 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Frayed Knot wrote:
Only 9 people left who have walked on the moon, the last on December 14, 1972.


I get eight: Pete Conrad (12), Alan Shepard (14), James Irwin (15) are also deceased in addition to now Armstrong.
Left are Aldrin, Alan Bean (12), Edgar Mitchell (14), David Scot (15), John Young (16), Charles Duke (16), Harrison Schmitt (17), Gene Cernan (17)
Schmitt at 77 is the youngest

Nine. You left out Steve Austin.

Zvon
Aug 26 2012 04:23 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Josepha Sherman.

The name probably means nothing to you, but if you knew her, this is an immense shock.

Josepha was a fantasy and folklore author. She wrote about a dozen novels, plus several Star Trek and Buffy the Vampire Slayer tie-ins. Her stories appeared in dozens of anthologies. She was a collector of folklore, probably best known for Greasy Grimy Gopher Guts: The Subversive Folklore of Childhood as well as for biographies, and other writing (I remember when she was delighted in selling a coloring book -- the lines at the bottom of each page). She was also a freelance editor for Baen Books for quite a few years.

And if you went to a science fiction convention in the northeast, you invariably ran into her. She was one of the leading lights behind the "It Came From the Slushpile" panels at Lunacon, and was a fixture there, at Boskone, and at Readercon. She was always a delight to hang out with, and was known to spontaneously break into showtunes at the drop of a hat.

I got to know her in the late 80s on panels and at parties. She was the life of the party any time she showed up (and with no alcohol needed). At odd intervals she'd turn to you and say, "Hiiii" and wave.

She was also a great friend. Back in the 90s, I sent a novel to her at Baen. They rejected, pretty much with a form. The next time I saw her, without even my mentioning it, she took me aside and said, "You are a good writer." I treasure that moment.

I hadn't realized she'd been sick, since I'm not attending many cons these days, and the news was an utter shock. I'm deeply saddened to hear it.

That's her on the left, with Esther Friesner.

Article doesn't say much but its nice to see she is remembered.
http://www.startrek.com/article/remembe ... -1946-2012

G-Fafif
Aug 31 2012 08:11 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Oceanside HS basketball star who went on to fame at Duke and the pre-championship Knicks, Art Heyman, 71.

Edgy MD
Aug 31 2012 08:11 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

No relation to Jon?

G-Fafif
Sep 01 2012 04:14 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

All-Star lyricist Hal David, 91, from complications from a stroke. He was the jelly to Burt Bacharach's peanut butter on so many classics.

Bacharach and David wrote many top 40 hits including "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head," "Close to You" and "That's What Friends Are For."

"As a lyric writer, Hal was simple, concise and poetic -- conveying volumes of meaning in fewest possible words and always in service to the music," ASCAP's current president, the songwriter Paul Williams, said in a statement. "It is no wonder that so many of his lyrics have become part of our everyday vocabulary and his songs... the backdrop of our lives."

Many lyrics and tunes from Bacharach and David continue to resonate in pop culture, including "Do You Know the Way to San Jose" and "I Say A Little Prayer" to "What The World Needs Now Is Love." Their music was recorded by legendary singers including The Beatles, Barbra Streisand, Frank Sinatra, Neil Diamond and their longtime partner Dionne Warwick.

In May, Bacharach and David received the Library of Congress Gershwin Prize for Popular Song during a White House tribute concert attended by President Barack Obama.

Bacharach, 83, thanked Obama, saying the award for his life's work topped even the Oscars and Grammys he won for individual projects. David could not attend because he is recovering from a stroke. His wife, Eunice David, accepted on his behalf.

MFS62
Sep 01 2012 04:24 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

G-Fafif wrote:
Oceanside HS basketball star who went on to fame at Duke and the pre-championship Knicks, Art Heyman, 71.

"Crazy Artie" also played for my New Jersey Americans (original name of the Nets in the ealry days of the ABA).
Olevai Shalom, Artie.

Later

sharpie
Sep 01 2012 04:45 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Hal David was my cousin's best friend's father. A distant connection but there it is.

Frayed Knot
Sep 02 2012 03:30 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Rev Sun-Myung Moon - 92

Frayed Knot
Sep 03 2012 06:58 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Michael Clarke Duncan - the 6' 5" - 300 lb actor was 54
Apparently he had a heart attack in July and had been hospitalized since.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 03 2012 08:36 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Ironically, Survivor remained as the opening act.

NORFOLK, Neb. — Mark Abrahamian, the lead guitarist for the rock group Starship, died of a heart attack after a concert in Norfolk, Neb., his road manager said. He was 46.

Road manager Scott Harrison said Abrahamian collapsed after a performance Sunday night.

“We had just finished the show. We were back in the dressing room eating. He apparently told the bass player he wasn’t feeling well,” Harrison said Monday.

Abrahamian went into the next room and was talking to his fiancee on the phone when he collapsed, Harrison said. He was taken to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Harrison says an autopsy was done Monday.

“It’s a shock to everyone,” Harrison told The Associated Press in a phone interview from the airport in Omaha, where he was waiting for Abrahamian’s fiancee. They planned to get married in December in Hawaii, Harrison said.

Starship was the opening band for a concert that also featured Survivor and Boston.

Harrison said Abrahamian hadn’t mentioned any health problems to him, but he apparently had been telling his fiancee.

“He had been having chest pains for a while,” Harrison said.

Harrison said Starship’s concert on Monday in Orem, Utah, was canceled.

Abrahamian joined Starship 11 years ago. Starship’s history goes back to the 1960s with Jefferson Airplane and in 1980s Jefferson Starship.

Abrahamian lived in Austin, Texas. Funeral services are pending.

metsguyinmichigan
Sep 04 2012 04:36 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

MFS62 wrote:

"Crazy Artie" also played for my New Jersey Americans (original name of the Nets in the ealry days of the ABA).
Olevai Shalom, Artie.



The Americans? That explains the red, white and blue uniforms with the stars. Always thought they were kinda cool.

G-Fafif
Sep 05 2012 05:54 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

[youtube]PojXf-spKKM[/youtube]

Joe South, singer/songwriter, 72.

Singer-songwriter Joe South, who wrote Lynn Anderson's pop crossover hit "Rose Garden," died Wednesday morning (Sept. 5) in Atlanta at age 72.

Released in 1970, "Rose Garden" spent five weeks at the top of the country chart and became Anderson's signature song.

As a solo artist, South is best known for his 1969 pop hit "Games People Play," which received Grammys for best contemporary song and song of the year. Born in Atlanta, he joined steel guitarist Pete Drake's band in the late '50s. He worked as a studio guitarist in Nashville and Muscle Shoals, Ala., playing on Bob Dylan's classic Blonde on Blonde album and other sessions for artists ranging from Marty Robbins and Eddy Arnold to Aretha Franklin and Solomon Burke.

One of his songs, "Hush," was recorded by Billy Joe Royal and later covered by Deep Purple. The British rock band's version became their first Top 10 hit. South also wrote other hits for Royal, including "Down in the Boondocks" and "I Knew You When." After a string of solo hits that included "Don't It Make You Want to Go Home" and "Walk a Mile in My Shoes," South went into semi-retirement following his brother's death in 1971 but briefly returned to the music scene with a new album in 1974.

He was inducted into the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1979 and became a member of the Georgia Music Hall of Fame in 1981.

seawolf17
Sep 05 2012 06:01 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Bob Denver, aka Gilligan.

Seven years ago.

http://blog.aarp.org/2012/09/05/oh-no-g ... -facebook/

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 05 2012 06:56 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
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Joe South, singer/songwriter, 72.

Singer-songwriter Joe South, who wrote Lynn Anderson's pop crossover hit "Rose Garden," died Wednesday morning (Sept. 5) in Atlanta at age 72.

Released in 1970, "Rose Garden" spent five weeks at the top of the country chart and became Anderson's signature song.

As a solo artist, South is best known for his 1969 pop hit "Games People Play," which received Grammys for best contemporary song and song of the year. Born in Atlanta, he joined steel guitarist Pete Drake's band in the late '50s. He worked as a studio guitarist in Nashville and Muscle Shoals, Ala., playing on Bob Dylan's classic Blonde on Blonde album and other sessions for artists ranging from Marty Robbins and Eddy Arnold to Aretha Franklin and Solomon Burke.

One of his songs, "Hush," was recorded by Billy Joe Royal and later covered by Deep Purple. The British rock band's version became their first Top 10 hit. South also wrote other hits for Royal, including "Down in the Boondocks" and "I Knew You When." After a string of solo hits that included "Don't It Make You Want to Go Home" and "Walk a Mile in My Shoes," South went into semi-retirement following his brother's death in 1971 but briefly returned to the music scene with a new album in 1974.

He was inducted into the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1979 and became a member of the Georgia Music Hall of Fame in 1981.


Love 'GPP'

Edgy MD
Sep 06 2012 10:01 AM
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Me, I'm a "Down in the Boondocks" man.

Speaking of backstabbers, though, fare-thee-well to Art Modell.

seawolf17
Sep 06 2012 11:05 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Love 'GPP'

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G-Fafif
Sep 06 2012 11:12 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 06 2012 11:12 AM
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This chick does it sweet. Sounds like Stevie Nicks Jr.

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G-Fafif
Sep 06 2012 11:24 AM
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Clevelander Joe Posnanski paying his last respects to Art Modell, 87.

Art Modell died on Thursday. He was 87 years old. It’s hard to describe the emotions. Modell was a giant in pro football, the driving force behind the television impact that made the NFL the biggest thing. He was an owner who cared about his team and who tried perpetually to win, and really what else could a fan ask of a sports team owner? He inspired loyalty in many, and he was often called a good family man, and he was self-made. His teams, for better and worse, branded and shaped my childhood and, let’s face it, my adulthood too. I’m a sportswriter in part because of Art Modell. I try to be hopeful in part because of Art Modell. I believe it will all end badly in part because of Art Modell.

And he moved the Cleveland Browns. There are new Cleveland Browns, of course, and I have tried to care about them in some way, but I do not live in Cleveland anymore, and it’s not the same. Something was severed. Something broke. In the end, Modell might have just told me that moving the Cleveland Browns was a business decision -- an obvious business decision, at that -- and that he had to do it, and while he regretted that people were hurt by it, well, people often get hurt by hard business decisions, a lot of people in Baltimore were made happy by it, and anyway, countless people every day make painful decisions about things that matter a whole lot more than football.

He might have been right if he had said all that. The adult in me would have heard him. The child, though, would not. The child is still waiting for the Cleveland Browns, my Cleveland Browns, to win the Super Bowl. They never will. I know, deep down, it’s not Art Modell’s fault. But he was the guy on television.

G-Fafif
Sep 10 2012 11:42 PM
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Oceanside HS basketball star who went on to fame at Duke and the pre-championship Knicks, Art Heyman, 71.

"Crazy Artie" also played for my New Jersey Americans (original name of the Nets in the early days of the ABA).
Olevai Shalom, Artie.


Rudy Martzke, Floridians PR director (later USA Today sports TV columnist), from Terry Pluto's ABA oral history Loose Balls:

One of the owners decided to trade for Art Heyman from Pittsburgh without telling anyone else. Heyman showed up in Miami without half the people in the front office knowing he was coming. Bob Halloran from TV-4 in Miami spotted Heyman and interviewed him.

Heyman asked Bob, "Does this go out to Miami Beach?"

Bob said it did.

Heyman said, "Hello, Jews out there! Your boy is here!"

Swan Swan H
Sep 18 2012 12:19 PM
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Steve Sabol of NFL Films, age 69, brain cancer.

Edgy MD
Sep 24 2012 11:35 AM
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Tough times for New York Jewish baskeball lifers, as Marv Kessler joins Art Heyman.

Great obit at the Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/sport ... .html?_r=1

He asked a player who had hogged the ball: “What year are you, a senior? Did you ever pass the ball to a teammate and yell ‘Shot’?”

Frayed Knot
Sep 26 2012 08:41 AM
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Singer Andy Williams - 84

Edgy MD
Sep 26 2012 08:49 AM
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Andy Williams, class act, all the way.

Swan Swan H wrote:
Steve Sabol of NFL Films, age 69, brain cancer.


Great article about the Sabols and NFL films in this month's Atlantic, ending on the sour note that Steve's cancer (he wasn't dead yet, but the writing was there) and Ed's elderliness leave the studios' future pretty cloudy.

G-Fafif
Sep 26 2012 12:46 PM
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[youtube:1s9bcx1b]L_jgIezosVA[/youtube:1s9bcx1b]

Frayed Knot
Sep 26 2012 01:57 PM
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Then there's this one where the then 16 y/o Andy Williams was hired to dub in the vocals for the then 19 y/o Lauren Bacall for this song on the movie 'To Have and Have Not' - although Bacall and director Howard Hawkes later denied that Williams's version was the one used in the final cut.

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MFS62
Sep 28 2012 09:27 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
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Back then, everyone's first dance was Moon River.
Of course, we were different. Ours was Cherish, by The Association.

RIP, Andy.
Lter

Ashie62
Sep 29 2012 01:20 PM
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Chris Economaki, the voice of Motorsports hits the pits at 91.

G-Fafif
Sep 29 2012 05:38 PM
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Punch Sulzberger, 86, Times publisher.

Frayed Knot
Sep 30 2012 06:37 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Punch Sulzberger, 86, Times publisher.


Isn't that What Nixon wanted to do so badly, punch Sulzberger?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 03 2012 09:54 AM
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R.B. Greaves, 68, survived by his secretary.

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Frayed Knot
Oct 10 2012 10:53 AM
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No longer just pawn in game of life, former actor/footballer Alex Karras was 77

Edgy MD
Oct 10 2012 11:17 AM
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I was thinking of a Top Ten Film Appearances by Football Players for the CPF-REDs thread. Karras would be number one.

seawolf17
Oct 10 2012 12:43 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
I was thinking of a Top Ten Film Appearances by Football Players for the CPF-REDs thread. Karras would be number one.

John Matuszak would take issue with that. So would Bubba Smith. (And OJ.)

Edgy MD
Oct 10 2012 01:04 PM
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OJ has been separated from society for inability to take issue with people in a civil manner, so I don't think I'm going to concern myself with him.

Vic Sage
Oct 10 2012 01:16 PM
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i put a list up in that thread; go argue there.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2012 10:25 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
No longer just pawn in game of life, former actor/footballer Alex Karras was 77


In reading some Karras obits it's amazing how his second career as an actor and announcer (briefly did MNF) pushed to a barely-mentioned afterthought the thing that will be in the first paragraph of Pete Rose's, that a gambling scandal led to his suspension from the game.
In Karras's case the suspension was only for a year even though he admitted to betting on games while he was a player and possibly even on games in which he played.

MFS62
Oct 11 2012 10:50 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
In Karras's case the suspension was only for a year even though he admitted to betting on games while he was a player and possibly even on games in which he played.

Was he reinstated because Mongo wasn't that kind of guy?

IIRC, Paul Hornung was also suspended fro gambling, but the Golden Boy was reinststed after one year also (I'm betting under pressure from Vince Lombardi). So they couldn't bring Hornung back and not Karras for the same offense.

Later

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2012 11:15 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
In Karras's case the suspension was only for a year even though he admitted to betting on games while he was a player and possibly even on games in which he played.

Was he reinstated because Mongo wasn't that kind of guy?

IIRC, Paul Hornung was also suspended fro gambling, but the Golden Boy was reinststed after one year also (I'm betting under pressure from Vince Lombardi). So they couldn't bring Hornung back and not Karras for the same offense.

Later


I don't know if a one-year suspension was the plan all along or if those punishments were open-ended before being rescinded after one season (under pressure or not). That the NFL was shocked, SHOCKED to discover that there was gambling going on in its league has long been a part of the league's hypocritical stance on betting (hell, a fair number of its owners were degenerate gamblers). That Rozelle dared to suspend Hornung was seen on the surface as a big move for the then young commish although most likely it was more intended to send the message that, if you're going to gamble, at least be a bit more discreet about it in the future.

G-Fafif
Oct 11 2012 11:22 AM
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Beano Cook, 81, baseball-bashing college football maven.

One of Cook's most famous quips was "Haven't they suffered enough", in response to Major League Baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn's offer of lifetime passes to games for returning hostages from Iran


I've occasionally wondered how that worked. Were the former hostages actually given a card of some sort? Did they/do they continue to use it? Or did they go up to the turnstiles and explain who they were? And were they thus thrown out?

Edgy MD
Oct 11 2012 11:30 AM
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That's a story you need to go git. The names are all public.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 11 2012 11:34 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
That's a story you need to go git. The names are all public.


Wow, that would be an awesome story to do.

G-Fafif
Oct 11 2012 12:12 PM
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Washington Post on it on the 25th anniversary of the hostages' release.

Safe at Home

25 Years Ago, a Gift From Major League Baseball Helped Iran Hostages Reconnect With America

By Les Carpenter
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, January 20, 2006


It was a small thing really, barely bigger than a credit card, tucked unpretentiously in a small black case. For each of the 52 American hostages who bounded off the plane, free at last, the ticket stuffed inside the box was another of the trinkets that piled up around them. A modest reward for the cold, metal muzzle of a shotgun pressed against their faces.

For 444 days they had been tied and blindfolded, held hostage in the U.S. Embassy in Iran by student revolutionaries incensed at the United States' decision to admit Iran's ailing and deposed shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, for medical treatment. Long before 9/11, Afghanistan and Iraq, there were the Iran hostages. Their plight paralyzed a country unaccustomed to such an affront and likely cost President Jimmy Carter reelection in 1980. Then, 25 years ago today, they were released the moment Ronald Reagan took the oath of office.

They returned to an adoring nation that gave them a ticker-tape parade and welcomed them as heroes. They were besieged with flags, yellow ribbons and countless gifts, among them the tiny box from Major League Baseball. Inside was a lifetime pass to any major or minor league game.

What each did with the pass says something about the group of 52 diplomats and military personnel. Some embraced it, using it often. Others tucked it away, rarely, if ever, pulling it out. The response was as varied as the ways they approached their notoriety and fame, back then and in the quarter-century that has passed, a quarter-century that has seen the number of living former hostages dwindle to 42.

Rocky Sickmann, a Marine guard from outside St. Louis, immediately put his in a safety deposit box. Bruce Laingen, the embassy's charge d'affaires, would later gush about the pass: "Not many people have that!" Steve Kirtley, another Marine guard who now lives in McLean, used it last June to take his two youngest sons to a Nationals game.

In the case of Barry Rosen, the embassy's press attache from New York, the little gold card helped to heal his family.

He stepped off the plane at Stewart International Airport in Newburgh, N.Y., on Jan. 25 gaunt, weary and a disheveled mess. He scanned the crowd and found his wife, Barbara, "looking as beautiful as ever." Beside her stood their son, Alexander, dressed in a suit and their little girl, Ariana, an infant when he had left more than two years before, in a red coat and a matching red dress.

"The movie should have ended right there," Rosen said with a laugh.

But the hero to America was a mystery to his family. Alexander, just 2 1/2 when Rosen left for Iran, had only vague recollections of his father; Ariana didn't know him at all. His return was an intrusion.

"My children were very fearful of me," Rosen recalled. "It wasn't that I was an ogre, they didn't know who the hell I was. They were with their mother all the time and then this strange man walked in the house. I couldn't take them out of the house. They wouldn't go anywhere with me."

Then the baseball pass arrived. Rosen grew up in Brooklyn a Dodgers fan and loved National League baseball. Maybe his kids would, too. "If it's a way of bringing us together, let's use it," he remembered Barbara saying.

Their first game, at Shea Stadium in New York, was so wonderful, he couldn't have drawn it better himself. The sky was clear, the sun sparkled on the grass. They arrived early to watch batting practice and then didn't want to leave.

"They had never, never been to a baseball game," he said. "You see a baseball field for the first time and it's a beautiful, beautiful thing. I got Alexander a glove, I got the kids hats. My little girl was squirming all over the place. But we were all together and that was the important thing."

For the next several years, the family fractured by the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, Iran's revolutionary leader, went to baseball games together, often as many as 10 times a season. The ritual was always the same, as soon as the coming year's Mets schedule came out, Alexander and Barry picked the games they wanted to see. Then Barry called the Mets and the tickets would be waiting.

"It really cemented my family," said Rosen, who now runs Columbia University's Afghanistan Education Project. "Even now, my son is going to be 30 and we still go to games. It's a way to connect."


* * *

In the days after they came home, the gifts started arriving. It began with a rush of American flags, attached with overwrought missives insisting the flag had flown for 444 days over the sender's home and how they wanted the hostage to have this memento. "A lot of them looked like they had just been sewed," Laingen said.

But it was more than just flags. Soon, some or all began receiving an eclectic collection of presents -- a new Electrolux vacuum cleaner ("the really good one" recalled William Belk, an embassy communications and records officer), a Ducane grill, the promise of a new pair of jeans every year, free rentals from Budget Rent-a-car in Detroit, free dinners, trips to Mardi Gras, trips to Hawaii, trips to Puerto Rico.

There seemed no end to the glut of handouts.

It's hard to pinpoint the worst moment of the 444 days, but the mock executions seem a good place to start. For several days in late January and early February of 1980, the captors showed revolutionary films to the hostages, gory movies with scenes that always ended the same way: with a supposed enemy being tortured and shot.

Then, one morning, about a week later, Sickmann remembers being jostled awake at 2 a.m. by men wearing masks, just like the executioners in the revolutionary films. Sickmann was pulled out of bed and dragged by his hair to a hallway outside where, he said, the other hostages were lined up against the wall. His heart dropped.

"You thought instantly that there had been a military rescue and they're going to shoot us," he said. "You want to be tough in that situation, but everything changes. You lose body fluids. Some were praying, some were cursing left and right."

They took Sickmann into a room and told him to strip -- an act of shame in Islamic culture. His mind flew back to the films. There were three men with rifles and he was certain this was the end. They told him to turn around and put his arms in the air, then they blindfolded him, which in the films was the final act before the killing.

He braced himself and waited for the bullet to crash into his skull.

Only it never came. After a few minutes the guards told him to put on his clothes and go back to his room.

And while shots weren't fired, something died in him, in each of them that night.

"How does someone ever forget that?" Sickmann, now the director of military sales for Anheuser-Busch in St. Louis, said all these years later. "Life was uncertain after that. You didn't know if you would live or die."

* * *

In the garage of his home outside Jacksonville, Fla., Alan Golacinski, an embassy security officer, keeps three boxes of things that were sent to him after his return from Iran. In the containers are football jerseys, sports memorabilia and letters. He hasn't opened them in years. His wife keeps after him about throwing away the cartons and one of these days he is sure he will.

"I don't want to sound ungrateful," he said. "I just don't remember all" the gifts.

But still they kept coming: a box of Idaho potatoes, tickets to a Broadway show, a VCR back when VCRs were cutting-edge technology.

Another Marine guard, Kevin Hermening, was given a scholarship to the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, though he later turned down the offer to study journalism at UW-Oshkosh. The Ducane grill he received was stolen off his porch several years ago.

What is the reward for suffering? Baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn discussed the topic one day in the middle of the hostage crisis with Jeremiah Denton, a Navy admiral who had been held captive in Vietnam and later became a senator from Alabama, as they sat at a baseball game in Cincinnati. Sometime that afternoon, Kuhn is convinced, the idea of a lifetime baseball pass was discussed, though he can't remember the actual conversation. What he does know is that the gift is unique.

"You know, I'd be hard-pressed to tell you that we gave out passes to anyone other than them," Kuhn, who retired in 1984, said recently.

Charles Scott, an Army colonel who was the embassy military attache, often found himself face-to-face at Atlanta Braves games with the man most responsible for his captivity and ultimately his release -- Jimmy Carter. To this day, Scott, now a public speaker, can't forgive the former president for allowing the shah into the country.

Still, whenever he would run into Carter, he'd eschew the traditional handshake and bury the former president in a giant hug.

Many years ago, Scott offered the Carter Library several boxes of letters he received in the days after his return, but when the library told him he would have to catalogue each envelope, he took the package to the back of his yard and burned it.

"Life does go on," he said.

Hermening, the youngest hostage who celebrated his 21st birthday in captivity, came home to the Milwaukee area and immediately into the best years of the Brewers. He loved going to the games in those days. So much so that he and his wife drove from Milwaukee to Baltimore the last weekend of the 1982 season for a showdown that would determine the winner of the American League East.

Belk settled in Bellingham, Wash., not far from the Canadian border and fell in love with the local minor league team, going to games on a regular basis. He brought the pass when he traveled, watching games in Seattle, Baltimore and Los Angeles.

He now has a home in Georgia. "In fact, from here I'll probably go down to Atlanta quite a bit; I can use it there," he said.

Laingen, who lives in Bethesda, used it to go to Orioles games but gave up after the franchise seemed to spiral into disarray. Embassy political officer John Limbert, who grew up watching the Washington Senators in Griffith Stadium, used the pass in Baltimore as well, but he lost interest.

Like many of his colleagues, he got busy and fell into work, in Limbert's case as president of the American Foreign Service Association, the union that represents active and retired foreign service officers. He held the post until last year.

* * *

In Marin County north of San Francisco, an Iranian immigrant and oriental rug dealer named Taghi Rezaian made a public declaration: He would give each hostage a $1,000 oriental rug. All they had to do was call.

"I wanted to welcome them back," Rezaian said. "I'm Persian by birth but by choice I'm American. I'm a proud American."

The hostage crisis had not been good for Rezaian or his business. Several times people threw rocks through his window. The first few times he called the police but after the police reports of the attacks on his store started to appear in the papers, he stopped calling.

"I wanted to tell everyone that I'm an American no matter how long I've been an American citizen and a taxpayer," he said.

When asked how many hostages had taken him up on his offer, Rezaian said he thinks 48 or 49 eventually got rugs. However, none of the 10 hostages reached for this story said he took one of Rezaian's carpets.

When he first returned from Iran, Kirtley went to baseball games all the time. He was a Marine drill instructor stationed in San Diego. Sometimes in the evenings, he'd drive over to where the Padres played, flashed the pass and spent the rest of the night sitting in the bleachers.

"I used it to just go down and watch the San Diego Chicken," he said.

But eventually life took over. He became a father and moved to a new, stable life in McLean, working as an information technology consultant. He turned out to be more of a football fan than baseball, but it was hard not to notice the new baseball team that came to Washington last year.

Only Kirtley didn't know how to go about using the card at the Nationals games.

"It took me literally weeks of research," he said. Finally he stumbled across a site for the D.C. Sports and Entertainment Commission. He called and the woman who answered told him to just come to the game. So one night last June, Kirtley brought his two youngest sons to Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium. They showed up early to the main gate only to discover the ticket takers had no idea who he was or why he had this strange pass. Some calls were made and suddenly the woman he had talked to on the phone came racing up shouting, "Mr. Kirtley! Mr. Kirtley!"

She led them inside and brought them to a section of seats 12 rows from the field, just to the third base side of the Nationals' dugout. But the woman didn't leave; instead she walked to the bottom of the section, spoke to a security guard and then waved Kirtley's two boys down, giving them seats in the front row right next to the dugout. About 15 minutes later, the guard came up to Kirtley and said, "You can go down too."

"It was amazing," Kirtley said. "But the thing that was too bad is I don't think my kids knew what a big deal it was. I did know but it was their first game, they didn't know that this didn't normally happen."

After all, how many fathers get a lifetime ticket to baseball?

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2012 02:10 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Beano Cook, 81, baseball-bashing college football maven.

One of Cook's most famous quips was "Haven't they suffered enough", in response to Major League Baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn's offer of lifetime passes to games for returning hostages from Iran


Yeah, fuck you Beano.

I find myself amazed (although increasingly less so) at the amount of contempt that a number of the mostly national sports figures have for baseball, as if they object to the fact that, every once in a while, they have to hold their noses and acknowledge that it even exists. I heard one talking head refer to baseball as "the broccoli of talk radio", something he had to force down every now and then.
Then there was the story from about a year or so ago that MLB was going to require a minimal dress code for their writers (no t-shirts or flip-flops in the locker room kind of stuff). I heard some radio sports geek reading that story wonder about what the punishment would be for not complying; "what are they going to do, make them watch more baseball?", as if the guy couldn't imagine a harsher sentence.

seawolf17
Oct 11 2012 02:25 PM
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Sammi Kane Kraft, who played Amanda Whurlitzer in the 2005 BNB remake. Apparently tutored by one of the finest baseball players ever.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/1 ... 57449.html

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2012 07:28 PM
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Bill Jauss - 81
Longtime Chicago based sportswriter who worked in newspapers for 50 years but also gained wider fame as one of the 'Sportswriters on TV'. The simple and low-budget looking set featured a group of Chicago area writers sitting around a table in a haze of cigar smoke as if at a pub talking about the week's issues in sports. It paved the way for both the (few) good and (mostly) bad imitators that abound today.

G-Fafif
Oct 13 2012 01:49 PM
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Gary Collins, 74, “inquisitive, sensitive, caring, likable, non-confrontational” television person (if not exactly personality...too soon?). Hosted Hour Magazine and Miss America pageant, post-Bert Parks. Was married to a Miss America, Mary Ann Mobley, one of those actresses whose name I recognize instantly yet am stumped as to why. Had a dark side later in life:

He had been arrested in Biloxi last year for leaving a restaurant without paying his dinner tab; in 2007 and 2009 he was convicted in separate DUI cases in California.


Is neither Gary Owens, announcer from Laugh-In, nor Gary Moore, another television personality from the days when a lack of personality didn't keep you from being labeled a personality. But I'm pretty sure I conflated him with both long ago.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 14 2012 11:39 AM
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Former Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter, 82.

MFS62
Oct 14 2012 12:33 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Former Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter, 82.


Olevai Sholom.

Later

Nymr83
Oct 14 2012 12:53 PM
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You really never want to see a retired politician trending on twitter, they're either dead or going to jail.

metirish
Oct 14 2012 12:56 PM
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Derek Jeter...............NOT dead, can these fans be anymore hateful, relax you assholes.


Rest in Peace Mr. Spector, seemed like a decent guy.

metsguyinmichigan
Oct 14 2012 08:40 PM
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Sorry for your loss, Greg.

HahnSolo
Oct 14 2012 08:48 PM
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Gary Collins, 74, “inquisitive, sensitive, caring, likable, non-confrontational” television person (if not exactly personality...too soon?). Hosted Hour Magazine and Miss America pageant, post-Bert Parks. Was married to a Miss America, Mary Ann Mobley, one of those actresses whose name I recognize instantly yet am stumped as to why. Had a dark side later in life:

He had been arrested in Biloxi last year for leaving a restaurant without paying his dinner tab; in 2007 and 2009 he was convicted in separate DUI cases in California.


Is neither Gary Owens, announcer from Laugh-In, nor Gary Moore, another television personality from the days when a lack of personality didn't keep you from being labeled a personality. But I'm pretty sure I conflated him with both long ago.


Also bore a striking resemblance to Maury Povich.

Edgy MD
Oct 15 2012 05:22 AM
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I associate Gary Collins with John Darling (but not with Gary Darling).

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2012 07:18 AM
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George McGovern - 90

G-Fafif
Oct 21 2012 07:48 AM
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Had/maybe still have a button pretty close to this one.

RIP, Senator.

MFS62
Oct 21 2012 08:54 AM
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RIP, George.

Later

Fman99
Oct 21 2012 07:37 PM
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I just read this book not two months ago about his ill-fated 1972 campaign and specifically the issues faced by his naming of Thomas Eagleton as his running mate.

Vic Sage
Oct 22 2012 09:46 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 26 2012 01:24 PM

one of my favorite books about politics was FEAR AND LOATHING ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, Hunter Thompson's gonzo reportage on the `72 election. McGovern was the last presidential nominee from the 2 major parties that i would have voted for (except i was 11 at the time).




S'long, George, and thanks for all the fish.

metirish
Oct 26 2012 11:45 AM
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Emanuel Steward , dead at 68.......

obviously a brilliant boxing coach, great analyst too, broke down fights in a straight forward manner.....

G-Fafif
Nov 04 2012 03:14 PM
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Missed this as it was news amid the storm: Letitia Baldrige, 86, de facto social secretary in the Kennedy White House and etiquette expert. She was a recurring guest on Late Night With David Letterman and charmed the heck out of the host.

Edgy MD
Nov 05 2012 06:42 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Correction: November 1, 2012

An obituary on Wednesday about the author, etiquette adviser and business executive Letitia Baldrige misspelled the given name of the wife of David Bruce, the former United States ambassador to France, for whom Ms. Baldrige worked as social secretary. She was Evangeline Bruce, not Evengeline.

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: November 2, 2012

An obituary on Wednesday about the author, etiquette adviser and business executive Letitia Baldrige misidentified the college from which Jacqueline Kennedy, for whom Ms. Baldrige worked in the Kennedy White House, graduated. Mrs. Kennedy attended Vassar, as did Ms. Baldridge, but she graduated from George Washington University; Mrs. Kennedy did not receive a bachelor’s degree from Vassar.

Tsk, tsk...

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 05 2012 06:45 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

That's why I try not to get mentioned in other people's obituaries.

Frayed Knot
Nov 05 2012 06:49 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
That's why I try not to get mentioned in other people's obituaries.


I spend most of my energy trying not to get mentioned in my own.

Frayed Knot
Nov 06 2012 01:18 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Milt Campbell - 78

Won a spot on the US Olympic team for the Decathlon in 1952 as an 18 y/o Plainfield, NJ HS student - and went on to win the silver medal.
Four years later became the first black American to win a gold medal at that event in the 1956 games in Melbourne, Australia.
Later on he briefly played in the NFL and also in the Canadian Football League.

In discussions of past American decathlon champions his name seems to somehow get overlooked more than others.

sharpie
Nov 06 2012 01:42 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Composer Elliott Carter -103

Will go down next to Gary Carter in notable deaths for 2012.

Died the day before Election Day. Would have been eligible to vote in the 1932 Roosevelt-Hoover race. Probably didn't bother holding out for this one since he probably already voted in a big city Democrat vs. CEO Republican race.

G-Fafif
Nov 07 2012 03:33 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Darrell Royal, 88, championship University of Texas football coach.

Nymr83
Nov 09 2012 03:04 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Patraeus' wife may put him on this thread soon.

Edgy MD
Nov 09 2012 04:00 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

This deserves it's own thready.

Three things come to mind.

[list=1][*]This can really throw a spotlight on the military's code of conduct prohibiting extramarital affairs. It's altogether possible that Patraeus never bed-hopped until he was out of uniform, but his conduct certainly puts one in mind of the de facto "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" enforcement of the prohibition.

[/*:m]
[*]Congratulations to the administration for not only keeping a lid on this until after the election, but for letting it sit somehow until close of business on Friday, the deadest time for media coverage. Cracking good show!

[/*:m]
[*]If the head of the CIA can't conduct a simple clandestine sexual affair without being caught, I'm going to guess nobody can.[/*:m][/list:o]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 09 2012 05:21 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I'd bet a kidney that the news was indeed delayed deliberately. The Obama administration's lack of transparency so far regarding all things military-/intel-related would fill Cheney with pride and awe; I suppose this counts.

Edgy MD
Nov 09 2012 07:11 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I'd love to see a list of bad news that has dropped on Friday afternoon. I'm pretty sure more than a few sex scandal admissions have. John Edwards finally copped on a Friday at 4:30, I think.

TransMonk
Nov 10 2012 05:44 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Just in time for Veteran's Day.

Poor Newsweek...they ran their Heros edition this week, which is mostly dedicated to military service-folk. The full final page was an article titled "Rules For Living" by David Petraeus. On news stands NOW!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... iving.html

G-Fafif
Nov 11 2012 12:08 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Major Harris, 65, whom love wouldn't let wait.

[youtube]BQAFluMiwIo[/youtube]

MFS62
Nov 11 2012 10:30 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Just in time for Veteran's Day.

Poor Newsweek...they ran their Heros edition this week, which is mostly dedicated to military service-folk. The full final page was an article titled "Rules For Living" by David Petraeus. On news stands NOW!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... iving.html

That's gonna' be a keeper.

Later

Edgy MD
Nov 12 2012 06:06 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Cleve Duncan, the lengendary voice that fronted the Penguins, died this week at 77, reportedly after being stricken while waiting in line to vote.

The Penguins may or may not be the greatest of the bird groups. I always think of how "Earth Angel" was forever consigned to be number two on the CBS top 500 countdown, eternally a notch below "In the Still of the Night."

Frayed Knot
Nov 12 2012 06:30 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Edgy DC wrote:
Cleve Duncan, the lengendary voice that fronted the Penguins, died this week at 77...


I think it would have been cool if, as a post-music career that would take advantage of his superior pipes, he were hired by the Pittsburgh Penguins to be their PA announcer.
He could go from being the voice of the Penguins to being the voice of the Penguins. And just think of the marketing opportunities!!
Probably should have narrated that penguin movie too instead of that hog Morgan Freeman.


... reportedly after being stricken while waiting in line to vote


See, increased acceptance of early voting could have saved his life!

Edgy MD
Nov 12 2012 07:20 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Second Penguin from the bottom.

Edgy MD
Nov 16 2012 09:34 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Bernard Lansky, haberdasher to kings.

G-Fafif
Nov 20 2012 10:54 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Former N.H. Sen. Warren Rudman, 82, a name that instantly evokes "Gramm-Rudman".

TransMonk
Nov 24 2012 05:52 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Larry Hagman, 81



Benjamin Grimm
Nov 24 2012 06:05 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Hagman had a wide eccentric streak. When he first met actress Lauren Bacall, he licked her arm because he had been told she did not like to be touched

Edgy MD
Nov 24 2012 06:24 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Hagman was alright.

Had been at death's door once or twice over the last two decades, if'n' I recall correctly.

He's definitely the coolest thing in Primary Colors. His hair was gone and his face was craven and his eyebrows were all shrubbery. One of those actors who had to get less handsome to make people realize how interesting he was.

Frayed Knot
Nov 24 2012 07:09 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Boxer Hector Camacho --officially now after several days of being so in all but name following being shot in the face & neck in what appears to be drug-related causes-- after 50 years of, let's say, a quite colorful life.

Kong76
Nov 24 2012 08:01 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I think I'm the only person who never watched an episode of
Dallas. Loved him in I Dream of Jeannie though, especially the black
and white early ones.

Kong76
Nov 24 2012 08:42 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

"Hagman wrote that for the past 15 years he had been drinking about four bottles of champagne a day"

That would make anyone see Jeannies!

Frayed Knot
Nov 24 2012 09:11 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Kong76 wrote:
I think I'm the only person who never watched an episode of Dallas.


No you're not.

soupcan
Nov 24 2012 09:27 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I had a fraternity brother who was Hagman's nephew. My frat bro was a great guy but one of those perpetual students - you know the type, several colleges over 6 or 7 years.

A few years out of school, I was maybe 24 (which meant Tim was probably 25 or 26) and I was in a bar in L.A. Larry Hagman was having a drink at the bar. I went over to him and I said, 'Hi, Mr. Hagman. My name is Nick and I'm a friend of your nephew Tim. I went to college with him.' Hagman says 'You're a friend if Tim's? Is a junior yet?'

I was dying. Told him I thought Tim had long since graduated (although honestly at that point, I wasn't really sure), shook his hand, told him it was nice to meet him and let him get back to his drink.

A few years later when I saw Tim again and told him that story, he didn't think it was as funny as I did.

cooby
Nov 24 2012 10:55 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I think it's funny :)

I loved Dallas and Jeannie, so this is sad news.

Also loved Macho Camacho, and indeed, boxing back in those days.

MFS62
Nov 24 2012 04:26 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Frayed Knot wrote:
Kong76 wrote:
I think I'm the only person who never watched an episode of Dallas.


No you're not.

Add me to that list.

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Nov 24 2012 05:20 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Frayed Knot wrote:
Kong76 wrote:
I think I'm the only person who never watched an episode of Dallas.


No you're not.


Never watched an episode, but loved the opening credits when I was a kid. After that it was bedtime.

TransMonk
Nov 24 2012 07:09 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Never watched an episode, but loved the opening credits when I was a kid. After that it was bedtime.

This. Exactly this.

My step-mom was a fan though, so I do remember when her and her friends would excitedly gossip about the characters on the show...especially the summer after J.R. was shot.

themetfairy
Nov 24 2012 07:25 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

We'd get together with friends on Friday nights to watch Dallas in college. It was a fun, social event that fit the student budget.

RIP JR!

Mets – Willets Point
Nov 24 2012 08:05 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 24 2012 08:27 PM

The "Who Shot J.R." reveal was broadcast the night before my 7th birthday party. At the party, all the grownups were talking about the show and getting a good laugh out of the fact that my neighbor who was named J.R. was at the party with his sister Kristen, since J.R. the tv character was shot by a Kristen (I hope I didn't spoil that for anyone).

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 24 2012 08:17 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Kong76 wrote:
I think I'm the only person who never watched an episode of Dallas.


No you're not.


Never watched an episode, but loved the opening credits when I was a kid. After that it was bedtime.


Never saw one, but did see, like, three episodes of Falcon Crest when I had Friday night stomachaches. I don't think the folks watched Dallas, but they never missed an episode of the Crest, weird-Wyman-lovin' people that they were.

MFS62
Nov 25 2012 09:55 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

TransMonk wrote:
Larry Hagman, 81




Now that I think of it, I never watched either show.
But I DID see his mom, Mary Martin in Peter Pan.
(and, no, I didn't clap for Tinker Bell)

Later

Edgy MD
Nov 26 2012 01:43 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Earl Carroll, another of the voices that made CBS CBS.

[youtube]bNXES7MzT74[/youtube]

G-Fafif
Nov 29 2012 03:21 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Zig Ziglar, 86, all-star motivational speaker I'd never heard of before I began covering trade shows that brought him in to impress and, presumably, motivate attendees.

He'll see you at the top!

Swan Swan H
Dec 05 2012 09:44 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Dave Brubeck, 91. I'd have thought he was long gone.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 05 2012 09:50 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Wow, I would also not have guessed he was still hanging around. "Take 5" is probably the coolest single thing of the entire 20th century.

Edgy MD
Dec 05 2012 11:54 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I hope you all remember to swing a little today in his honor.

Also among musicians, we failed to note last week the passing of the passing of Martin Fay, great fiddle player for the Chieftains.

[youtube:yyq27hz2]WQd51OItvTU[/youtube:yyq27hz2]

Chad Ochoseis
Dec 05 2012 12:44 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Swan Swan H wrote:
Dave Brubeck, 91. I'd have thought he was long gone.


Moving in ahead of Richard Speck and behind Mozart on the Most Famous People to Die on My Birthday list.

I've known some jazz people who look down their nose at him. I'm not sure why...popular doesn't always equal sucky. "Take Five" turned me into a jazz fan, along with countless others.

Edgy MD
Dec 05 2012 01:03 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Popular = sucky, if you're a snob.

And the jazz world knows more than a few of those.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 05 2012 01:36 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

The obit mentioned that the critics who championed Brubeck as an unknown resented it when the secret got out.

Edgy MD
Dec 05 2012 02:02 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Which almost never happens.

MFS62
Dec 06 2012 08:30 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

The album "Bernstein Plays Brubeck Plays Bernstein" was one of the first I ever owned.

RIP, Dave

Later

metirish
Dec 07 2012 11:29 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

This is truly sad and awful.


Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

TransMonk
Dec 07 2012 11:50 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Sometimes I just don't understand some people.

Edgy MD
Dec 07 2012 12:04 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Satire is an increasingly powerful currency of the Western developed world. It's totally warped the perspective of the satirist and the audience.

I mean, is there any doubt that had this woman not taken her life that this would have been another day at the office for these two, and Alison Moyet and the like wouldn't be out tweeting their objections?

cooby
Dec 07 2012 12:24 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

TransMonk wrote:
Sometimes I just don't understand some people.



Me either, Monky. In the first place, the pranksters, but also, how could this nurse be so upset that she felt she had to end it all? That is really more shocking to me.
I've been reading/watching videos "The Tudors" and really, just another sad tale of English "royalty" that'll go down in history...

Edgy MD
Dec 07 2012 12:43 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I can only speculate, but maybe allowing herself to be duped exposed her to deep shame, or threatened her job. Holidays are coming, and pressure and depression are heightened.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 07 2012 12:55 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Yeah, that has to be it.

Meanwhile, the DJ's who made the call are being accused of having pulled a "sick" prank. It may have been juvenile, but I don't think it was "sick" or "twisted". They couldn't have reasonably suspected there was any chance at all that it would cause somebody to die.

cooby
Dec 07 2012 12:56 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

My thoughts exactly.

metirish
Dec 07 2012 01:10 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Yeah, I share all those thoughts , of course the DJ's have closed their twitter accounts....that's like the first thing to do these days......and damn it, people want them to lose their jobs.....why is that seemingly always called for in situations like this and similar ones?

TransMonk
Dec 07 2012 01:14 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Edgy MD wrote:
I can only speculate, but maybe allowing herself to be duped exposed her to deep shame, or threatened her job. Holidays are coming, and pressure and depression are heightened.

Bolding mine.

I'm thinking that being indirectly responsible for personal info about a patient potentially being leaked to someone (media members, no less) who had no authorization to have it coupled with the fact that the patient is royalty had her literally scared to death of the ramifications.

metirish
Dec 07 2012 01:23 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

The hospital CEO or whatever he is called there had come out in support of her after the prank, I had read nothing to suggest her job was at risk.

Frayed Knot
Dec 12 2012 10:31 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Ravi Shankar - 92

seawolf17
Dec 12 2012 01:55 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Frayed Knot wrote:
Ravi Shankar - 92

"Paul McCartney is play with WHO?!?" /dies

Edgy MD
Dec 12 2012 02:22 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

^nice^

Edgy MD
Dec 12 2012 02:39 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Kanye West is going on?

Oh, dear. It's almost as if he doesn't say that Obama hates white people, it'll be a disappointment.

Mets – Willets Point
Dec 12 2012 02:42 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Edgy MD wrote:
Kanye West is going on?

Oh, dear. It's almost as if he doesn't say that Obama hates white people, it'll be a disappointment.


"Imma let you finish, but Traveling Wilburys were the greatest supergroup with an ex-Beatle ever."

Frayed Knot
Dec 12 2012 02:49 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Edgy MD wrote:
Kanye West is going on?

Oh, dear. It's almost as if he doesn't say that Obama hates white people, it'll be a disappointment.


Staten Island, the Jersey shore, and the Rockaways, certainly among the whitest areas of the NYC region, were the hardest hit sections and are still in need of the most help much of which is tied up in bureaucratic red tape. Can there be any other explanation for this except hatred of whitey??

Ashie62
Dec 12 2012 04:54 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

TransMonk wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
I can only speculate, but maybe allowing herself to be duped exposed her to deep shame, or threatened her job. Holidays are coming, and pressure and depression are heightened.

Bolding mine.

I'm thinking that being indirectly responsible for personal info about a patient potentially being leaked to someone (media members, no less) who had no authorization to have it coupled with the fact that the patient is royalty had her literally scared to death of the ramifications.


The concept of satire is quite different in England, stiff upper lip and that. Those tabloids crushed this nurse. To an American? Its just the prank of the day.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 12 2012 07:26 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

You do know that Brits pretty much INVENTED modern Western satire, right?

sharpie
Dec 17 2012 04:16 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Senator Daniel Inouye of Hawaii at 89 a couple of weeks before retirement.

Chad Ochoseis
Dec 17 2012 04:26 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Great stuff about him in this thread starting at 2/19/11.

http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/1320 ... 3259.shtml

themetfairy
Dec 17 2012 04:37 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

RIP Senator!

Edgy MD
Dec 17 2012 10:23 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Bravest man I ever didn't know.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 19 2012 08:43 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Robert Bork. (Remember him?) 85 years old.

Edgy MD
Dec 19 2012 09:09 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Met him while I was working in a book store. Terrified of talking to people.

G-Fafif
Dec 19 2012 04:20 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Had a college professor who, three years before he was nominated, told us to remember the name Robert Bork -- "he would rape his own mother to get on the Supreme Court."

Frayed Knot
Dec 24 2012 04:47 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Jacob Joachim "Jack" Klugman - 90


Oh Oscar, Oscar, Oscar.




Acccording to Wikipedia (so you know it's true) Klugman and (Odd Couple TV wife) Brett Somers were married in 1953 then separated in 1974. But they never divorced and remained legally married until her death in 2007, living together only 21 years of a 54 year marriage. There must have been some interesting reasons behind that decision. The year following Somers' death Klugman married the woman he had been living with for the previous twenty years.
Not surprisingly, as he looked to be the youngest member, he had been the final survivor of the 'Twelve Angry Men' cast.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 24 2012 06:34 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Sad.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 24 2012 06:40 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 24 2012 06:50 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

crap. Love to Blanche.

themetfairy
Dec 24 2012 06:55 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

As a kid, he always reminded me of my grandfather.

RIP Oscar!

Edgy MD
Dec 24 2012 08:14 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

He outlived punk, and that's the most important thing.

Edgy MD
Dec 24 2012 08:14 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

He outlived punk, and that's the most important thing.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 24 2012 08:32 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

You can say that again!

Edgy MD
Dec 24 2012 08:42 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Dude, it happens.

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 25 2012 12:16 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

G-Fafif
Dec 25 2012 02:20 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Reported on WCBS-FM as the passing of Jack "KLOOG-man". Sigh.



Jesse Cardiff is presumably being called to Mason's Pool Hall in Sandusky, Ohio, as we speak.

G-Fafif
Dec 25 2012 04:18 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Charles Durning, who was in everything, 89.

Edgy MD
Dec 25 2012 06:08 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Heck, I'd be disappointed to hear he didn't play Oscar at some point. Must've at least read for the part, right?

I think that, at least at some point, Jack Klugman had appeared in more TV shows than anybody in history, going back to some ephemeral 1950s shows with names like Private Dicks! or That's Ernie!

Kong76
Dec 25 2012 08:09 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Verklempt over Klugman ... loved that guy

Swan Swan H
Dec 25 2012 11:34 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Klugman, Durning.... if I were Ned Beatty I'd stay home with the doors locked.

Edgy MD
Dec 25 2012 03:45 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

G-Fafif wrote:
Reported on WCBS-FM as the passing of Jack "KLOOG-man". Sigh.



Jesse Cardiff is presumably being called to Mason's Pool Hall in Sandusky, Ohio, as we speak.

Sandusky, Ohio --- also the hometown of Brian Bixler.

Edgy MD
Dec 25 2012 03:48 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Swan Swan H wrote:
Klugman, Durning.... if I were Ned Beatty I'd stay home with the doors locked.

It all began back in July with the passing of Ernest Borgnine. It's like the shlumpocalpyse or something.

Fman99
Dec 26 2012 05:09 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

G-Fafif wrote:
Charles Durning, who was in everything, 89.


He was great in so many films, but my lasting image of him is that from O Brother, Where Art Thou? as the incumbent governor of Mississippi, Menelaus "Pass the Biscuits Pappy" O'Daniel, surrounded by the idiocy of his son and campaign managers.

Edgy MD
Dec 26 2012 07:33 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

The first role that pops to my head with him is the titular character in The Hudsucker Proxy. He also played foil to Burt Reynolds a lot on TV (Evening Shade) and in film (Best Little Whorehouse in Texas).

The funny thing is that there are a lot of roles I associate with him that aren't him. I continue to think of him as Sting's uncle in Dune, but that was Kenneth McMillan. I think of him as the priest in Rudy, but that was Robert Prosky, who sort of got white collar avuncular roles where Durning would get the blue collar ones. And I think of him as the racist firefighter in Ragtime, but that was... McMillan again. If you wanted an overtly racist Irish firefighter or cop between 1975 and 1990, you were pretty lucky to have Durning and McMillan to choose from.

He seemed to get a lot of Boss Hogg-type roles too --- comically greasy lawmakers and civil servants who run the gamut from modestly to irredeemably corrupt.

Played Pope John XXIII, despite having a relatively un-prominent pug nose rather than the pope's big shnozz.

Also played a Mets legend:

TransMonk
Dec 26 2012 09:10 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Oddly, my first spontaneous memories upon hearing the news about Durning are as Doc Hopper in The Muppet Movie and a terrible made for TV movie that scared the bejeezus out of me as a kid, Dark Night of the Scarecrow.

Frayed Knot
Dec 26 2012 09:52 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I think of him in 'Tootsie' and as Lt Snyder, the corrupt Joliet, Illinois cop in 'The Sting'

Edgy MD
Dec 26 2012 12:13 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

A second Mets connection: Charles Durning appeared in Dirty Deeds, produced by Todd Zeile.

themetfairy
Dec 26 2012 08:50 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Sir Richard Rodney Bennett, Oscar-Nominated Composer

Chad Ochoseis
Dec 27 2012 08:44 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf, 78

Chad Ochoseis
Dec 27 2012 09:16 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Also, Fontella Bass, 72

[youtube]dwt3kr0_l6I[/youtube]

MFS62
Dec 27 2012 09:30 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Chad Ochoseis wrote:
Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf, 78

Fade away, then RIP, sir!

Later

Edgy MD
Dec 28 2012 05:58 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Fontella was a pretty slick pianist, too.

G-Fafif
Dec 28 2012 04:46 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Sometimes a song you sorta know grabs you by the ears and elevates its place in your esteem. In early 1988, as I fiddled with the AM dial in my car, the old WFIL -- 560 out of Philly -- came in briefly as I entered the Loop Parkway on my way to work. I heard "Rescue Me" not for the first time but, somehow, it was brand new. Has remained fresh ever since.

RIP, Miss Bass.

Edgy MD
Dec 28 2012 06:09 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Fontella giving an actual live (not lippy synchy) TV treatment in 1965, and predicting Nancy Seaver's 1969 look.

[youtube:3kexpq14]RJmz7UJK_CY[/youtube:3kexpq14]

Chad Ochoseis
Dec 28 2012 08:31 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Whole lotta dying going on in this last week of 2012.

Jean Harris, murderer, 89.

Edgy MD
Dec 28 2012 09:06 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Wrote for the little magazine I edited, before she got to the murdering. http://www2.nais.org/publications/ismag ... ber=145956

Somebody wrote a Times editorial about the ethics of imprisonment, and the prison-industrial complex, centered around her case, as if jail is only inappropriate and a tragic waste for sophisticated wealthy white ladies of a certain background.

Sure enough, I go and visit my mother two days later and she's arguing about how stupid it is that Jean Harris is still in jail.

Chad Ochoseis
Dec 29 2012 06:15 AM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Anna Quindlen was writing articles like that on a near-daily basis for a while and, boy howdy, did they annoy me. Reverse the genders and try to picture anyone - anyone! - coming to the killer's defense.

Frayed Knot
Dec 31 2012 01:52 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

Bruce Stark - 79
One of the great cartoonist/caricaturists of recent vintage and author of many NYM-related drawings whose work has been cited here on many occasions.

http://www.artofbrucestark.com/index.php

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 31 2012 02:29 PM
Re: Guess who died in 2012

I had the full set of these Sunday comics inserts from the Daily News, and I'd like to think that they're (somehow) in a box somewhere in my basement. (I have a number of cartons that have moved around with me from home to home, unopened, since the 1980's.)