Ronny

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2012 12:06 PM

Buzz in Cyberland that the Mets are negotiating with Ronny Cedeño to see if he'd like to come over their house to play.

Career sub-.300 OBP and pretty consistent about it, too. Modest extra-base power fell off last year too. Mets and Pirates seem to be shopping at each other's yard sales these days.

Me, I was more jazzed by Quintanilla.

sharpie
Jan 06 2012 12:08 PM
Re: Ronny

If they're letting Ronny Paulino go they need to fill the Ronny slot somewhere.

Ceetar
Jan 06 2012 12:10 PM
Re: Ronny

Are there actually any sorta maybe not completely worthless backup SS out there?

Honestly, isn't it probably more beneficial to just make Turner practice it a little bit more?

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 06 2012 12:10 PM
Re: Ronny

sharpie wrote:
If they're letting Ronny Paulino go they need to fill the Ronny slot somewhere.

Maybe they can reactivate Ron Darling and slot him into their rotation.

TransMonk
Jan 06 2012 12:14 PM
Re: Ronny

I'm not sure we'll ever need another Cedeno.

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2012 12:17 PM
Re: Ronny

Had his best season ever WAR-wise last year, but that's largely because both BB-r and Fangraphs show his defense spiking remarkably.

That could be an illusion or an unsustainable reality, but at least they agree.

seawolf17
Jan 06 2012 12:23 PM
Re: Ronny

Sucks.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 06 2012 12:36 PM
Re: Ronny

I don't know about that. I suspect he's good enough to be a backup shortstop on a last-place team.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 06 2012 12:42 PM
Re: Ronny

Just because the team's got no realistic chance of finishing higher than third or fourth doesn't mean they have to aim at "f*cking terrible."

If he'll play for the league minimum-plus, he's worth it. Maybe.

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2012 12:49 PM
Re: Ronny

Not a big Ronny Cedeño Fan Club chapter here, i'm gathering.

bmfc1
Jan 06 2012 12:55 PM
Re: Ronny

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I don't know about that. I suspect he's good enough to be a backup shortstop on a last-place team.

Excellent.

Ceetar
Jan 06 2012 01:02 PM
Re: Ronny

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I don't know about that. I suspect he's good enough to be a backup shortstop on a last-place team.

self-fulfullling prophesy, that.

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2012 01:08 PM
Re: Ronny

Started at short the last season for the fourth-place Buccos.

I mean, they were fourth pretty much despite him, but still.

TransMonk
Jan 06 2012 01:12 PM
Re: Ronny

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I don't know about that. I suspect he's good enough to be a backup shortstop on a last-place team.

Perspective and reality packed into concise statement.

I agree...come on down, Ronny!

Gwreck
Jan 06 2012 01:30 PM
Re: Ronny

Hey, Sandy: Booooooo

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2012 02:27 PM
Re: Ronny

RumBunter already missing their Ronny.

Nymr83
Jan 06 2012 02:48 PM
Re: Ronny

I don't think Cedeno hurts the team, unless he ends up blocking someone from getting promoted who would help, but he won't help things around here either.

Ceetar
Jan 06 2012 02:54 PM
Re: Ronny

Nymr83 wrote:
I don't think Cedeno hurts the team, unless he ends up blocking someone from getting promoted who would help, but he won't help things around here either.

well he sucks.

Turner may be the most logical guy without a chair now.

metirish
Jan 06 2012 03:29 PM
Re: Ronny

Done deal says Heyman....

Ashie62
Jan 06 2012 07:35 PM
Re: Ronny

Shooting for the 75 million dollar payroll

I guess Turner must have pissed somebody off, he's better than Cedeno.

smg58
Jan 06 2012 08:01 PM
Re: Ronny

He's better than Chin-lung Hu, at least. The Mets had room on the bench for a second reserve infielder, so I don't think this adversely affects Turner. I think Ryan Theriot would have been a better fit among the free agents, but not if he'd need a starter's salary.

It's tough to get excited about filling out the bench, but I don't see the point of booing it either.

MFS62
Jan 06 2012 08:29 PM
Re: Ronny

This guy is far better than Omar Whatzisname they signed a few days ago.
Two years ago, hit ten homers. Was injured part of last year.
Let's face it, they have nobody else on the roster who could fill in for a week or so as the backup shortstop and not make you cringe every time a ground ball is hit to the left side. Turner can't play that position for more than an (eventful) inning or so.
There may be some guys in the minors who can play there in a year or two (Valdespin for one), but they're not ready.
A decent pickup.

Later

Fman99
Jan 06 2012 08:34 PM
Re: Ronny

Edgy DC wrote:

Me, I was more jazzed by Quintanilla.

Seriously. I'd make a short stop on that.

MFS62
Jan 06 2012 08:36 PM
Re: Ronny

Very short.

Later

Ashie62
Jan 06 2012 08:46 PM
Re: Ronny

MFS62 wrote:
Very short.

Later

Bada bing.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 06 2012 08:49 PM
Re: Ronny

MFS62 wrote:
This guy is far better than Omar Whatzisname they signed a few days ago.
Two years ago, hit ten homers. Was injured part of last year.

Better? Probably. Far better? Highly doubtful.

The year he hit 10 HRs? He slugged worse that year than a 14-year-old Ruben Tejada did last year. He's Alex Cora with the baserunning awareness of Angel Pagan. He's Starlin Castro, without the glove, and minus the bat, and plus a few years. He makes Jeter look like Jeter thinks he looks. He is... the Least Interesting Signing In The World.

MFS62
Jan 06 2012 08:59 PM
Re: Ronny

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
MFS62 wrote:
This guy is far better than Omar Whatzisname they signed a few days ago.
Two years ago, hit ten homers. Was injured part of last year.

Better? Probably. Far better? Highly doubtful.

The year he hit 10 HRs? He slugged worse that year than a 14-year-old Ruben Tejada did last year. He's Alex Cora with the baserunning awareness of Angel Pagan. He's Starlin Castro, without the glove, and minus the bat, and plus a few years. He makes Jeter look like Jeter thinks he looks. He is... the Least Interesting Signing In The World.

And, when he drinks beer, he drinks DosEquis.

Later

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2012 10:04 PM
Re: Ronny

Yeah, I don't know why youse guys think this effects Justin Turner at all at all. The job he looks to get was symbolically being held by Jordany Valdespin, and will be held by Valdespin in fact if the relative performances make an argument for it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 06 2012 10:10 PM
Re: Ronny

Generally, I like it when you can fill a bench role with a guy who until he joined your team was a starter. If he's cool with it, especially. Not like Bobby Bo, but like Desi Relaford. Usually they are considered talented enough to have been given chances to start, might do one or two things well, but also proven in need of a successful role switch to save their career. Probably still young enough to believe a strong showing in a limited role can get them back on the big-money path.

That can be a good moment to have such a guy.

Now, what Cedeno brings I'm not sure. He doesn't appear to hit well, shows no particular platoon strengths and I'm ignorant of his D though I'm sure its considered acceptable at SS. But he fits the young-veteran-at-the-moment-his-career-switches definition otherwise, and maybe he shows us something.

/crosses fingers

Ceetar
Jan 06 2012 10:12 PM
Re: Ronny

Edgy DC wrote:
Yeah, I don't know why youse guys think this effects Justin Turner at all at all. The job he looks to get was symbolically being held by Jordany Valdespin, and will be held by Valdespin in fact if the relative performances make an argument for it.

because he's getting 1.1 million, although I haven't heard if he's guaranteed a major league deal or not, but given that he's started the last two years..

while it's easy to pigeon hole him into backup SS and Valdespin's supposed job, he also backups up 2B which really makes Turner redundant in terms of coverage.

Edgy MD
Jan 06 2012 10:44 PM
Re: Ronny

Sheesh, all this sense of a space shortage.

There was room for Turner and Tejada last year. If they both perform, there'll be room for Turner and Cedeño in 2012.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 06 2012 11:37 PM
Re: Ronny

Ceetar wrote:
because he's getting 1.1 million, although I haven't heard if he's guaranteed a major league deal or not, but given that he's started the last two years...

Well, if that's a $1.1M minor-league contract, it's about the worst minor-league contract ever offered.

bmfc1
Jan 07 2012 06:33 AM
Re: Ronny

Judging from the picture at Rotoworld, I don't know how Cedeno catches the ball since he doesn't have any eyes:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/774/ronny-cedeno

Edgy MD
Jan 07 2012 07:27 AM
Re: Ronny

Great day fishing when the Mets caught Desi Relaford. Check out that Cedeñonian career.

Year Team OPS+
1996 PHI 22
1997 PHI 56
1998 PHI 65
1999 PHI 62
2000 PHI/SD 69
2001 NYM 118
2002 SEA 92
2003 KCR 77
2004 KCR 56
2005 COL 58

Is the world full of suckers or what? The guy packs his bats one year in ten and it's for us. Probably scouted by Omar Minaya, too.