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The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy MD
Jan 07 2012 06:25 PM

Reports today of Jorge Posada retiring.

metirish
Jan 07 2012 06:51 PM
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post your favorite Posada pix here, fucking twat.


Fman99
Jan 07 2012 07:28 PM
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Edgy MD
Jan 07 2012 07:39 PM
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Caught Wells' perfect game.

metirish
Jan 07 2012 07:44 PM
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Caught Syphilis of Jeter.

Edgy MD
Jan 07 2012 08:01 PM
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The same night?

G-Fafif
Jan 07 2012 11:23 PM
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Retiring from the MFYs now. Quit on the MFYs eight months ago.

Frayed Knot
Jan 08 2012 08:59 AM
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I get a kick out of the slant that a catcher who first had his mitt taken away then was increasingly shoved aside by his own team (see the 'Quit' link above) to the point where it was known all along that they weren't going to re-sign him, spending the first few months of the off-season trolling for offers (if not then why wouldn't he have retired during the first week of November?) then, when it's clear that none were forthcoming, is described as "going out on his own terms".
Yeah, he is in the same way several recently deposed middle-east potentates did.

I guess part of it is the relief to YLDBs that he isn't going to sully himself with a uniform other than the Yanqui pinstripes.

MFS62
Jan 08 2012 10:37 AM
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I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing that the YLDB shills in the media will be telling us how he deserves to be in the HOF. Constantly.

Later

Ashie62
Jan 08 2012 04:09 PM
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Heyman has already started..

Fman99
Jan 08 2012 06:55 PM
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So has [crossout]Smiley McDouchenstein[/crossout] Wallace Mathews on ESPN. Read this cocksuckery.

Fuckface wrote:
So it should be with relief, not sadness, that Yankees fans bid farewell to Jorge Posada. His decision spares them the heartbreak of having to see him in another uniform -- could you imagine him in a Red Sox get-up or the ersatz pinstripes of the Mets?


Fuck you in the least ersatz of your holes, sir.

bmfc1
Jan 09 2012 05:31 AM
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Matthews is an ersatz columnist.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 09 2012 06:57 AM
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Isn't "Ersatz" the mouse who was always throwing bricks at Krazy Kat?

Edgy MD
Jan 09 2012 08:23 AM
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Posada's case hurt by Girardi, to a degree, at both ends of his career.

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/1/9/269329 ... e-retiring.

It's kind of funny about this whole Core Four business is that the Yanks won two of their championships with Posada backing up and one with him sharing the catching position.

MFS62
Jan 09 2012 09:16 PM
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Here's someone who actually put together a compendium of ca-ca about George's retirement.
Warning!
You may want to check your supply of barf bags before opening the link.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-l ... 30144.html

I warned ya'.

Later

Ceetar
Jan 09 2012 09:42 PM
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lol, caught this comment to that article:

I am a 30+ year Yankees fan.Jorgie is without a doubt a class act, however, I am NOT a fan of his baseball play. Here's why. While catching:
1. He usually (90%) lightly tosses the ball back to the pitcher. Clemens hated that as did others.

Mets – Willets Point
Mar 09 2012 09:23 AM
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This article announces that Chelsea and Celtic will be playing a football match at Yankee Stadium III this summer. What grinds my gears is the opening sentence "For the first time in 36 years, a soccer game is set to be held at Yankee Stadium this summer." And thus the media-assisted mythology that allowed the 1976 Yankee Stadium II to be the same place where Ruth and Gehrig played is now considering the four-year old ballpark to be the same place that Pele played. At least with MFYSI & MFYSII one could argue that they were built on the same site but there's no excuse for this BS.

MFS62
Mar 09 2012 09:36 AM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
This article announces that Chelsea and Celtic will be playing a football match at Yankee Stadium III this summer. What grinds my gears is the opening sentence "For the first time in 36 years, a soccer game is set to be held at Yankee Stadium this summer." And thus the media-assisted mythology that allowed the 1976 Yankee Stadium II to be the same place where Ruth and Gehrig played is now considering the four-year old ballpark to be the same place that Pele played. At least with MFYSI & MFYSII one could argue that they were built on the same site but there's no excuse for this BS.

Edgy, its on a Soccer site, most likely written by a guy who only lives and breathes soccer. He probably can't find MFYS II with a GPS.
I'd give him more slack than if this were on the MFY site, written by one of the reporters who cover baseball. Or by the MFY PR department.

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 09 2012 09:41 AM
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In addition to the certain lie that David (Fuck that Guy) Robertson hurt his foot in a fall "while moving boxes" word is that Nick Swisher is dealing with a hand cut "from a picture frame."

In other bullshit MFY news, Raissman today relives some of the YES Network's greatest hits.

Edgy MD
Mar 09 2012 09:45 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Edgy, its on a Soccer site...

How am I involved here?

Edgy MD
Mar 09 2012 09:52 AM
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Ah, you've confused me with Willets.

Tough day for Willets.

Ceetar
Mar 09 2012 09:55 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
In addition to the certain lie that David (Fuck that Guy) Robertson hurt his foot in a fall "while moving boxes" word is that Nick Swisher is dealing with a hand cut "from a picture frame."

In other bullshit MFY news, Raissman today relives some of the YES Network's greatest hits.


picture frame? nice..

Mets – Willets Point
Mar 09 2012 10:13 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Ah, you've confused me with Willets.

Tough day for Willets.


If only I could be handsome with long-flowing locks and write poetry like you.

metirish
Mar 09 2012 10:19 AM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
This article announces that Chelsea and Celtic will be playing a football match at Yankee Stadium III this summer. What grinds my gears is the opening sentence "For the first time in 36 years, a soccer game is set to be held at Yankee Stadium this summer." And thus the media-assisted mythology that allowed the 1976 Yankee Stadium II to be the same place where Ruth and Gehrig played is now considering the four-year old ballpark to be the same place that Pele played. At least with MFYSI & MFYSII one could argue that they were built on the same site but there's no excuse for this BS.




two contrasting teams , Chelsea as blue a Brit team as there is(historically Chelsea fans would be cut from the same cloth as Glasgow Rangers fans).....and Celtic as historically Irish as there is.

MFS62
Mar 09 2012 10:27 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Ah, you've confused me with Willets.

Tough day for Willets.

Edgy, you are usually at the forefront in the fight for competent journalism.
No offense meant to either of you.

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Mar 09 2012 10:29 AM
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Chelsea is historically known for having some of the most vicious hooligan firms too, although I don't know how active they are these days.

G-Fafif
Mar 10 2012 05:42 PM
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Flipping by YEECH a few minutes ago, MFYs Magazine was doing a feature on Joba Chamberlain. Nancy Newman said (paraphrasing), "Of course Joba's goal is, as it is every year, to win another world championship." And by instinct, I heard myself telling Nancy Newman, "Oh, fuck you."

Fman99
Mar 10 2012 06:41 PM
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I would think Joba's goal is to keep his mother out of the Police Beat.

Frayed Knot
Mar 11 2012 08:56 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Flipping by YEECH a few minutes ago, MFYs Magazine was doing a feature on Joba Chamberlain. Nancy Newman said (paraphrasing), "Of course Joba's goal is, as it is every year, to win another world championship." And by instinct, I heard myself telling Nancy Newman, "Oh, fuck you."


That's not a paraphrase, that specific phrase is the one which was programmed into those specially selected Stepford Yanquis before they are allowed to speak on YEECH. No deviations are heard because no deviations are possible.

bmfc1
Mar 16 2012 10:51 AM
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Good news for New York baseball writers, one of their favorite MFY-mancrushes is back: Andy (PED) Pettitte is making a comeback. Look for Sherman, Lupica, Madden... well, all of them, to write loving, fawning, articles in the next few days.

Mets – Willets Point
Mar 16 2012 10:53 AM
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Maybe we should merge that and make Andy PEDitte, pitcher for the YanHGHees.

G-Fafif
Mar 16 2012 11:04 AM
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The Yankees have signed Pettitte to a one-year minor league deal, according to the YES Network's Jack Curry, who reports the deal is worth $2.5 million. Pettitte, 39, had been in camp as a special guest instructor. At that time, he admitted that being around the Yankees might raise the temptation of a comeback.


How suggestible is this guy anyway?

GYC
Mar 16 2012 01:36 PM
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OF ALL THE DRAMATIC THINGS

The Second Spitter
Mar 16 2012 08:52 PM
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Bobby V on Pettite's return: "Is he coming back as a starter or just to pick people off?"" #RedSoxTalk

https://twitter.com/#!/Sean_McAdam/stat ... 5871421440

G-Fafif
Mar 16 2012 11:09 PM
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Pettitte sucks. Fuck him.

themetfairy
Mar 17 2012 08:06 AM
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Call him by his proper name - Andy the Rat-Faced Boy.

Edgy MD
Mar 18 2012 07:31 PM
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Robby Cano walking off the field holding his hand after an HbP.

Ceetar
Mar 19 2012 06:49 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Robby Cano walking off the field holding his hand after an HbP.


I saw a kid in a Cano jersey doing sprints outside the Brooklyn Brewery yesterday. This probably isn't related though.

Edgy MD
Mar 19 2012 06:54 AM
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X-rays negative.

metirish
Mar 19 2012 06:58 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
X-rays negative.


"don't you know on Robbie Cano"

The Second Spitter
Mar 26 2012 10:05 PM
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This deserves to be on display

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 30 2012 09:56 PM
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Pineda confesses to shoulder pain after getting hammered in tonight's start and is having an MRI.

His velocity had been an ongoing story in the papers this spring, coming low 90s when mid 90s was expected. The writers to me never seemed convinced of his explanation that it would come as the spring wore on. I guess it hasn't.

Ceetar
Mar 31 2012 07:38 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Pineda confesses to shoulder pain after getting hammered in tonight's start and is having an MRI.

His velocity had been an ongoing story in the papers this spring, coming low 90s when mid 90s was expected. The writers to me never seemed convinced of his explanation that it would come as the spring wore on. I guess it hasn't.


he also confessed to trying to throw harder last night. You know, because everyone told him his velocity was down. That doesn't seem like a good thing.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 31 2012 09:22 AM
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Papers are Whitsonizing him ("Pineda needs shoulder to cry on" Kernan sez) seemingly with the assistance of the MFYs themselves.

I think this is a weird MFY retribution for coming into camp overweight and ready to embarras them for that trade. Kei Igawa and Irabu got the same kind of treatment, and of course they went to extraordinary measues keeping Joba from humiliating himself and them.

Ceetar
Mar 31 2012 09:28 AM
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DL'd.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 31 2012 10:39 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Papers are Whitsonizing him ("Pineda needs shoulder to cry on" Kernan sez) seemingly with the assistance of the MFYs themselves.

I think this is a weird MFY retribution for coming into camp overweight and ready to embarras them for that trade. Kei Igawa and Irabu got the same kind of treatment, and of course they went to extraordinary measues keeping Joba from humiliating himself and them.


It would be HILARIOUS if Montero went .300/.400/.500 with 30 HRs in Seattle, no?

MFS62
Mar 31 2012 04:39 PM
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Little Andy (or is it Andy Little?) scheduled to pitch for the MFYs against the Mets on Wednesday. (Think I heard it on WFAN)

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 04 2012 02:13 PM
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MFYs trade reliever George Kontos to Colorado for out-of-options catcher Chris Stewart and subsequently demote Cervilli.

(/fist pump)

Ceetar
Apr 04 2012 02:20 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
MFYs trade reliever George Kontos to Colorado for out-of-options catcher Chris Stewart and subsequently demote Cervilli.

(/fist pump)


Also former-Yankee catcher Chris Stewart (went 0-3 for them in '08 in 1 game)

it's an odd move.

They're apparently blaming it on depth. Romine hurt so the _need_ Cervelli to catch for "Scranton"

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 06 2012 01:32 PM
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MFY season opener on now. Rays have loaded the bases with 2 outs in the first. Carlos Pena batting...

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 06 2012 01:33 PM
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[bigpurple:31nuj3cd]GRAND SLAM!!![/bigpurple:31nuj3cd]

Ceetar
Apr 06 2012 01:45 PM
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we should've started an OOT thread. Apparently Girardi walked Sean Rodriguez for the L-L matchup before Pena.

Frayed Knot
Apr 06 2012 01:50 PM
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Shields now trying to give it all back: Walks, WPs, two runs in and bases loaded ... but Granderson Ks

4-2 middle of the 2nd

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 06 2012 02:11 PM
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FUCKing Ibanez.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 06 2012 02:18 PM
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And Longoria upper-decks it in the following half-inning. 6-5, Forces of Evil.

This is debased-ball.

bmfc1
Apr 06 2012 04:34 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 06 2012 04:47 PM

8th inning, Tampa has 1st and 3d, nobody out, and Robertson strikes out the next three... but is aided by Maddon taking over-managing to new heights by bunting on two strikes with one out and the catcher up.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 06 2012 04:36 PM
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"At least my glasses make me LOOK smart."

bmfc1
Apr 06 2012 04:47 PM
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Oh my goodness gracious, Mariano Rivera blows the save!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 06 2012 05:04 PM
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LOL YanKeEs

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 06 2012 05:08 PM
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The entire game-- right down to walk-the-bases-loaded-and-bring-in-a-fifth-IF at the end-- was like an Olympics-of-Overmanagement.

Frayed Knot
Apr 06 2012 06:06 PM
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I was in and out of this game so can't comment on all the goings-on, but I didn't have a problem with Girardi's machinations in the 9th. Once you start the inning by giving up single + triple there's only so much you can do. Walking Longoria was a no-brainer and seeing as how Mariano isn't prone to walks walking the 2nd guy is OK too. Then given how many squibbers he gives up you can certainly make an argument for the 5th infielder.

The Madden deal with the bunt is a whole different deal. That he did it with two strikes was even more off the wall.



The best part was Zobrist's triple. That's the kind of pitch that, in MR's prime, would have moved just a couple more inches inside and blowed-up the bat of a left-hander into many pieces. But pitches don't tend to move as much when you're 41 y/o and that, as much as a few lost mph, is the difference between great and ordinary.

Fman99
Apr 06 2012 06:08 PM
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God I hope he spends the whole year doing that. DELIGHTFUL.

Ceetar
Apr 06 2012 06:14 PM
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What seems funny to me is that they walked the bases loaded and pitched to Rodriguez. Rodriguez is the guy they intentionally walked in the first to get to Pena. They also intentionally walked him later on too, as YES graphic said he had two IBB. So he's scary in the first but you seek him out in the lineup in the highest leverage part of the game? that's just wacky.

Edgy MD
Apr 06 2012 07:23 PM
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C.C. Sabathia intentionally walking somebody in the first --- whether he's Sean Rodriguez or Babe F. Ruth = Living. Like. A Looza.

MFS62
Apr 06 2012 08:14 PM
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I was at work today, but we followed the game.
The best part to me was reminding a particularly annoying Yankee fan (is that redundant?) that Cee Cee gave up 5 runs in six innings to lineup that had Jeff Keppinger batting cleanup.
Let me repeat that.
Jeff Keppinger batting cleanup.

It was the highlight (other than the MFY loss itself) of an otherwise slow day.

Later

Frayed Knot
Apr 06 2012 08:34 PM
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I didn't see the beginning of the game, but if you're IW-ing somebody in the 1st inning of the 1st game of the season just to set-up a lefty-lefty situation with your supposed ace on the mound then, yes, THAT is over-managing.
At least the IWs in the 9th inning were dictated by the situation where only the first run mattered anyway.

MFS62
Apr 08 2012 02:45 PM
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Our third straight triple-happiness day.

And Jeff Keppinger is on a TEAR, I tell ya'.

Later

Edgy MD
Apr 14 2012 09:12 PM
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Hi, I'm 2-3 with a double, a homer, and three RBI. I'm also currently catching a three-hit shutout.

My name is...

Ceetar
Apr 14 2012 10:02 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Hi, I'm 2-3 with a double, a homer, and three RBI. I'm also currently catching a three-hit shutout.

My name is...


Montero. (I had to look it up)

The pitcher? his trade partner Hector Noesi.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 19 2012 10:31 AM
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Big blow to MFYs as Brett Gardner goes to DL with an elbow injury described in terms that could suggest 15 days might not be nearly enough. Kuroda in the meantime got lit up and seemingly for the first time in our lifetimes, the Twins have a chance to win a series (4 games) against the MFYs tonite.

sharpie
Apr 25 2012 03:41 PM
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Pineda out for season. Torn labrum.

Vic Sage
Apr 25 2012 04:17 PM
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schadenfreude is not a German beer.
it's the way i feel right now...

Frayed Knot
Apr 25 2012 04:52 PM
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Were this the old days, that elder Steinbrenner character would right now be petitioning the league (or at least threatening to via the press) for a reversal of the trade on the ground that the Mariners knew he was damaged goods. He would then claim anti-NYY bias as the reason the commish allowed the deal to stand.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 25 2012 06:38 PM
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Cashman simply blamed the Mets for abusing him.

The Second Spitter
Apr 26 2012 07:23 AM
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Wow, Swisher became a twat. Such a shame.

metsmarathon
Apr 26 2012 09:27 AM
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sharpie wrote:
Pineda out for season. Torn labrum.


good for the yankees!

you know, not that i think the mariners knew he was injured, but i'm fairly certain they suspected that an injury was on it's way. his second half was bad, and his velocity was way down at the end of the year. if those aren't impending shoulder-failure warning signs, i don't know what is.

it may have been the case that he developed some amount ofweakness or tiredness or fatigue in the muscles around his shoulder last year, and maybe he didn't work hard enough in the off season, but that weakness followed him to this season. and when he tried to turn it on and get back the velocity, or power thorugh some soreness, he shredded it up good.

i hate to see a promising career fall to pieces, but if a promising career is to fall to pieces, i'm glad for it to happen to a yankee. particularly when their fallbacks include freddy garcia, phil hughes and andy i haven't pitched in a year pettitte.

i'm really rooting hard for montero to be the stud everybody thought he would be.

as a side note - any time a team is willing to trade a sophomore pitcher who had an impressive rookie campaign, particularly a rookie campaign wherein the latter half had som red flags a-waving, you might not want to trade your top slam-dunk uber-prospect for him. i'm just sayin'

Gwreck
Apr 26 2012 12:01 PM
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The Second Spitter wrote:
Wow, Swisher became a twat.


What do you mean, "became"?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 26 2012 01:16 PM
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Gwreck wrote:
Wow, Swisher became a twat.


What do you mean, "became"?



Point of order: Swisher is much more of a shmuck or twit than a twat.

metsmarathon
Apr 27 2012 07:59 AM
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for once, i actually agree with michael kay.

i know. shocker.

since when in the history of ever is a ball tossed into the stands by a ballplayer or ballboy intended to go into the hands of an okay-looking woman with an older lover, when there is an unrelated toddler immediately nearby?

now, look, i'v e never been on the receiving end of a foul ball, or a ball tossed into the stands, and i know that when i've gone to ball games in the past, i've always dreaded getting such a ball and having a little kid nearby that i'd be tempted to hand over my loot to. but i'm pretty sure that i would. especially if i didn't catch a batted ball all by my lonesome. a ball tossed into the stands goes to the munchkins. everybody knows that.

and when you're sitting next to the muinchkin, and he's asking for the ball, and crying that he didn't get the ball that everybody knows was meant for him, you give it to him. you don't pretend that the kid doesn't exist. he's right. next. to. you.

do the right thing.

on a related note, i really need to take minimm to a game soon, so that we can get a baseball given to [crossout]me[/crossout] [crossout]us[/crossout] him just for being a cute little munchkin.

Ceetar
Apr 27 2012 08:02 AM
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did the kid ask for the ball? I've been busy and I'm not sure I'd 'follow' this story closely anyway, but I saw some talk that the kid was crying already, that it wasn't about the ball, and that Michael Kay basically just blew everything out of proportion (because clearly from the occasional camera view shown him he knew the whole story exactly while broadcasting the game on the field)

Fman99
Apr 27 2012 08:18 AM
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metsmarathon wrote:
for once, i actually agree with michael kay.

i know. shocker.

since when in the history of ever is a ball tossed into the stands by a ballplayer or ballboy intended to go into the hands of an okay-looking woman with an older lover, when there is an unrelated toddler immediately nearby?

now, look, i'v e never been on the receiving end of a foul ball, or a ball tossed into the stands, and i know that when i've gone to ball games in the past, i've always dreaded getting such a ball and having a little kid nearby that i'd be tempted to hand over my loot to. but i'm pretty sure that i would. especially if i didn't catch a batted ball all by my lonesome. a ball tossed into the stands goes to the munchkins. everybody knows that.

and when you're sitting next to the muinchkin, and he's asking for the ball, and crying that he didn't get the ball that everybody knows was meant for him, you give it to him. you don't pretend that the kid doesn't exist. he's right. next. to. you.

do the right thing.

on a related note, i really need to take minimm to a game soon, so that we can get a baseball given to [crossout]me[/crossout] [crossout]us[/crossout] him just for being a cute little munchkin.


That happened to us last year at the spring training Mets/Nats tilt we took in at Melbourne. Only problem was, they gave Fgirl a ball and not Fboy. Luckily I had a couple of minor league foul balls at home and was able to give one of those to him instead.

Frayed Knot
Apr 27 2012 08:20 AM
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ABC News included this "story" as part of their national "news" broadcast last night.

metirish
Apr 27 2012 08:24 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
ABC News included this "story" as part of their national "news" broadcast last night.


Christ, in a way I feel for the douchy couple, getting married this weekend to boot.It was on NBC News with Brian Williams too. Didn't help though that they practically taunted the kid. Still , leave them the fuck alone .

metsmarathon
Apr 27 2012 08:25 AM
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well, as you can see on the video replay, the ball is tossed into the crowd, in the general direction of the kid, and probably right towards him. he's the only munchkin in the vicinity, and ballplayers have an uncanny ability to toss balls at munchkins. the kid also has a glove on, so he's primed to expect that he'll get a ball. the ball is coming towards them, the dad stands up or is standing, and reaches up for the ball. the ball drops, and hte dad bends over to reach for it.

at this point, the movement and jerking around has clearly begun to upset the tyke, but he also recognizes that the ball is intended to be his. as a toddler, everything is intended to be his, but hte actions of his dad and the expectations of the glove have magnified this assumed intention. the ball was coming to him, because it was thrown to him, and it is his. the toddler knows it to be true.

the old dude picks up the ball and holds it up, right in the face of the toddler. not intentionally, but still, it's right there. the toddler thinks he is being presented with the ball. he reaches. he expects the ball to be given to him. the ball is given to the fiancee instead. the kid cries.

having been in the company of toddlers, i know for dead certain that the kid, while blubbering away, is saying "i want the ball!" "i wanted it!" and "my ball" and words to that effect, and the parents are surely tring to soothe him by saying, "you'll get another ball" "we'll catch a different ball" and "do you want some ice cream?"

i don't care how loud hte stadium is. if you're sitting next to a toddler yelling "i want the ball" after you just picked up a ball that was at his feet, you cannot claim to have neither noticed nor heard nor realized what had happened. especially since they claim ot have kids of their own, who surely once were toddlers. they surely noticed the toddler before the play in question, and tehy certainly noticed him afterwards. they were tying relaly hard to pretend not to so as not to feel the need to make the kid happy.

if they were a bunch of college kids, or oblivious young adults, fine - maybe its excusable because they're ignorant of how awesome it is to make little kids happy. but they should know better. in fact, i'm certain they do know better. and for that, shame on them.

never in the history of baseball has a foul ball been tossed into teh stands by a ball player or a ball boy to an old guy sitting with his better looking, younger fiancee instead of hte toddler sitting next to them. never. the ball wasn't theirs to begin with. it was always the kid's.

metsmarathon
Apr 27 2012 08:27 AM
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also, yes, it's one thing for the clip to become internet famous. its another entirely for it to make actual news.

Edgy MD
Apr 27 2012 08:37 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I'll guess the kid was over it by the time America got wind of it.

Fman99
Apr 27 2012 08:43 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

The kid should be happy his dad didn't plummet to his death like that guy in Arlington did last year.

metsmarathon
Apr 27 2012 08:45 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
I'll guess the kid was over it by the time America got wind of it.


no doubt. kids are fickle. it helps that someone in hte rangers dugout eventually tossed him a ball, too.

i'm pretty certain the toddler in question will be bringing that baseball to bed with him every night, like it's his new favorite stuffed animal.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 27 2012 10:08 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I agree with his first comment: "This is just a blip. There's gonna be much worse to come, kid." This generation needs to toughen up.

HahnSolo
Apr 27 2012 10:16 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I agree with his first comment: "This is just a blip. There's gonna be much worse to come, kid." This generation needs to toughen up.


I generally agree, but the couple didn't have to be total asshats about it.

If I were the dad of the kid, I wouldn't have asked for the ball, but were it given to my kid, I would have bought the couple some food and drink and all would be well with the world.

metsmarathon
Apr 27 2012 10:24 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

HahnSolo wrote:
I agree with his first comment: "This is just a blip. There's gonna be much worse to come, kid." This generation needs to toughen up.


I generally agree, but the couple didn't have to be total asshats about it.


this. they cannot NOT have known that tehy were sitting by a toddler who subsequently was crying because they got the ball he wanted.

the couple got a ball. good for them. they could have made a kid's day. that's better.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 27 2012 10:31 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Note: there's a certain level of sarcasm content on my post, mostly informed by the fact that I have a 4-year-old who constantly says "I want!" I'm working on getting him to accept "You get what you get and you don't get upset."

HahnSolo
Apr 27 2012 10:32 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

metsmarathon wrote:


the couple got a ball. good for them. they could have made a kid's day. that's better.


Bingo.

Edgy MD
Apr 27 2012 10:40 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

We're just the best people in the world, aren't we? If only the world would act more like us.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 27 2012 10:46 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Wifey would never let me take Lunchpail to a night baseball game when he was that little. If she saw this clip that's exactly what she'd say.

metsmarathon
Apr 27 2012 10:58 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
We're just the best people in the world, aren't we? If only the world would act more like us.


well, there'd be a lot more mets fans, thats for sure.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 27 2012 11:06 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

And this forum would have about seven billion members.

metsmarathon
Apr 27 2012 11:09 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

jeez, think how much harder it would be to ifnd a good parking spot at the game!

metirish
Apr 27 2012 11:12 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I can do without the six billion nine hundred ninety-nine million nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred eighty-five extra members.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 27 2012 12:35 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Well, also, there would be no wars, except over the fairness of classic-rock-countdown-contest scoring, and how unreasonably hopeful Ceetaria was.

The way they conducted themselves seems unfortunate, and they seem like people I'd have an easy time disliking. But then, I also dislike James Blunt and Brett Ratner and too-slow drivers in the left-hand lane, and I'm not going out of my way to line THEM up against the wall. Yet.

Vic Sage
Apr 27 2012 02:11 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

i hate being in line for something behind people who, when they get up to the window/cash machine/clerk/etc, act as if they didn't expect it, or are too busy texting/phoning/etc to notice, and so don't have their card/cash/item/etc ready to use/purchase/etc, and have to dig through their bags/wallet/pockets/etc looking for the thing THEY SHOULD HAVE OUT AND WAITING SINCE THEY HAD SO MUCH GODDAMN TIME WAITING ON THE GODDAMN LINE ALREADY!

It started with old people at cash machines but its become everybody everywhere and i want to kill them. kill them all. skinning them slowly with a dull blade and stuffing their flayed flesh down their goddamn throats...

ah, don't get me started.

Frayed Knot
Apr 27 2012 02:22 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Vic Sage wrote:
i hate being in line for something behind people who, when they get up to the window/cash machine/clerk/etc, act as if they didn't expect it, or are too busy texting/phoning/etc to notice, and so don't have their card/cash/item/etc ready to use/purchase/etc, and have to dig through their bags/wallet/pockets/etc looking for the thing THEY SHOULD HAVE OUT AND WAITING SINCE THEY HAD SO MUCH GODDAMN TIME WAITING ON THE GODDAMN LINE ALREADY!


Along those lines, mine is the women (and, yes, it's ALWAYS women) who, upon hearing the total at the supermarket check-out line when paying cash, suddenly declare to the checker; "oh wait, I have the three pennies" before proceeding to rummage through the overnight bag-sized purse for the three cents - AS IF THE FACT THAT THE TOTAL OF NINE RANDOM ITEMS NOT COMING OUT TO AN EXACT ROUND DOLLAR AMOUNT COMES AS A COMPLETE SHOCK TO THEM!!!
If dumping off the three pennies rather than gaining two is so fuckin' important to you then have four pennies at the ready BEFORE YOU GET THERE so that you can dish off however many it takes to round to the nearest nickel.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 27 2012 02:27 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I'm not sure where the Yankees thread became a pet peeve thread, but it doesn't seem inappropriate that it went that way.

I remember once I was at Woolworths (yes, this was quite a while ago) and the man in front of me at the checkout line was from the Middle East somewhere. He actually wanted to negotiate the total of his order with the cashier. She said $72 and he offered her 50. When she refused to budge even a little he was totally perplexed and walked away without completing his purchase.

Edgy MD
Apr 27 2012 02:37 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

A moral roadmap at Deaspin to help you escape the censure of Sterling.

The Second Spitter
Apr 30 2012 02:33 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Red Sox chick gets kicked in the face at MFY Stadium III on Sat night.

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Understand now why Gwreck told me not wear a Mets cap there.

Gwreck
Apr 30 2012 05:49 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Note the usher standing in the background doing nothing. Classy joint, that place.

Disclaimer: it seems pretty clear she was being a douchebag herself.

Met Hunter
Apr 30 2012 06:01 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:
Vic Sage wrote:
i hate being in line for something behind people who, when they get up to the window/cash machine/clerk/etc, act as if they didn't expect it, or are too busy texting/phoning/etc to notice, and so don't have their card/cash/item/etc ready to use/purchase/etc, and have to dig through their bags/wallet/pockets/etc looking for the thing THEY SHOULD HAVE OUT AND WAITING SINCE THEY HAD SO MUCH GODDAMN TIME WAITING ON THE GODDAMN LINE ALREADY!


Along those lines, mine is the women (and, yes, it's ALWAYS women) who, upon hearing the total at the supermarket check-out line when paying cash, suddenly declare to the checker; "oh wait, I have the three pennies" before proceeding to rummage through the overnight bag-sized purse for the three cents - AS IF THE FACT THAT THE TOTAL OF NINE RANDOM ITEMS NOT COMING OUT TO AN EXACT ROUND DOLLAR AMOUNT COMES AS A COMPLETE SHOCK TO THEM!!!
If dumping off the three pennies rather than gaining two is so fuckin' important to you then have four pennies at the ready BEFORE YOU GET THERE so that you can dish off however many it takes to round to the nearest nickel.



I've often wondered about these people. If they're always sifting through their purse for the exact change, how do they have it to begin with? Are there times when they say fuck it, and take the extra pennies? And why am I never around when they do?
The only time I give exact change is to mess with the kid taking the money. I'll usually give them a penny or two, when the total is like 56 or 67 and watch them scramble to figure out the change. They always look at the register for help. I remember when you'd have to constantly count in your head. And you never got it wrong.

Fman99
Apr 30 2012 06:05 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Fucking savages, all of them. See what the designated hitter does to people?

MFS62
Apr 30 2012 06:22 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Fman99 wrote:
See what the designated hitter does to people?

This.
And if it remains unchecked, it will mean the end of civilization as we know it.

Later

Met Hunter
Apr 30 2012 06:30 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Being drunk or acting like a douchebag or not, any man that kicks a woman in the face is no man.

themetfairy
Apr 30 2012 06:32 AM
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It appears there was no shortage of douchbaggery or adult beverages with any of the participants.

HahnSolo
Apr 30 2012 09:14 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Met Hunter wrote:
Being drunk or acting like a douchebag or not, any man that kicks a woman in the face is no man.


It was a woman kicker, no?

metsmarathon
Apr 30 2012 09:30 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

red sox chick walked outta there with a concussion, no?

bitch-kicker shoulda walked outta there with an assault & battery charge.

usher should walk outta there with a pink slip.

Edgy MD
Apr 30 2012 09:38 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

It's amazing to me how much aggression is permitted to fester in ballparks before staff intervene. With concrete floors ready to crack skulls open, iron rails and armrests ready to break spines over, and bleacher overhangs inviting you to plummet to your death, it's just outrageous to look the other way at ballpark violence.

It would help if some those Cellphone Scorsceses would stop recording and call security.

My last time in Yankee Stadium was... my last time in Yankee Stadium. I tried to intervene in a fan-on-fan thing and it got all pear-shaped really fast.

Met Hunter
Apr 30 2012 11:31 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

HahnSolo wrote:
Met Hunter wrote:
Being drunk or acting like a douchebag or not, any man that kicks a woman in the face is no man.


It was a woman kicker, no?



Geez. Just looked at it again. You're right. Sure don't make 'em like they used to.

Methead
Apr 30 2012 01:52 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I'm currently serving the 39th year of my self-imposed lifetime ban from Yankee Stadium.

Ceetar
Apr 30 2012 01:54 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Methead wrote:
I'm currently serving the 39th year of my self-imposed lifetime ban from Yankee Stadium.


I get out to on average .75 games a year at that place (i.e. I've been to two in three years) I like feeling superior and walking around think "Look at this ridiculousness" and "Citi Field does this better" and "They sponsor THIS too?!"

I mean, I like stadiums and I'm guaranteed to like exactly one of the teams playing baseball that day, so it's not all bad.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 30 2012 02:02 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I've been to Yankee Stadium twice. Once, in 1984, because I figured I ought to go once in my life, and I was able to get $1.50 bleacher seats for a Yankees-Red Sox game.

The second time was in 1985, to see Tom Seaver win his 300th game.

I can't imagine anything that would induce me to go there again. So I'm in the 27th year of my personal Yankee Stadium exile.

And Ceetar, check your math. Two divided by three isn't 0.75.

Ceetar
Apr 30 2012 02:09 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I've been to Yankee Stadium twice. Once, in 1984, because I figured I ought to go once in my life, and I was able to get $1.50 bleacher seats for a Yankees-Red Sox game.

The second time was in 1985, to see Tom Seaver win his 300th game.

I can't imagine anything that would induce me to go there again. So I'm in the 27th year of my personal Yankee Stadium exile.

And Ceetar, check your math. Two divided by three isn't 0.75.


there's a tax at Yankee Stadium. costs you half a game to get in, and you pay with your dignity.

The new place is..better. At least from a fan perspective. I went once with my Uncle and once to see the Mets, so there were mitigating factors. I think the perfect comparison is an airport terminal. Maybe terminal 4 or 5 would make a good example at JFK. You have to go through a ridiculous screening process, can't bring in bags above a certain size, and everything inside is designed to try to get you to spend money. They've got some good food, but it doesn't make up for it.

soupcan
Apr 30 2012 02:52 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I think I was at the old Yankee Stadium maybe 3 times for baseball games (the first Yankee/Met interleague when Mlicki pitched and a Yankee playoff game against the Rangers in the early 90's, or late '80s? Don't remember any others but there must have been at least one) and I saw a U2 concert there.

I've been to the new place once and that was for a Syracuse football game (2011 Pinstripe Bowl -v- Rutgers) so I need a ruling on whether or not it counts.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 30 2012 02:53 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Did you feel as if you were surrounded by evil?

TransMonk
Apr 30 2012 03:16 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

They're finally thinking about changing this...

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_ ... ources-say

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 30 2012 03:26 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I've been to both of the more recent incarnations of MFY Evil many times (including my first ball game ever, and pennant-clinching Game 6 of the ALCS in 2009), and openly, loudly cheered against the home team on a few of those occasions, and rarely gotten more than a little rude razzing.

metsguyinmichigan
Apr 30 2012 05:33 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I've been to Yankee Stadium twice. Once, in 1984, because I figured I ought to go once in my life, and I was able to get $1.50 bleacher seats for a Yankees-Red Sox game.

The second time was in 1985, to see Tom Seaver win his 300th game.


I was at the Seaver game, too! Brought my parents, brother and sister, too. That was magical.

I used to go to the MFY House II during the three years we lived in Connecticut. My wife worked nights, and in those carefree days I probably went to a game a week, depending on whether the Mets or MFY's were in town. I'd never root for the MFYs, of course. But they sucked in those years, and I'd go and cheer for players I liked in the AL. I was in an AL rotisserie league at the time, so it was a chance to see players I liked, like Joe Carter, Kelly Gruber and BJ Surhoff. I became a master at buying one, inexpensive seat, and ending up in the sections behind the visitors dugout. The MFYs were during a down period, so getting a cheap seat and moving down was never a problem. And I could wear a Blue Jays, Indians or Brewers cap and not get any crap from fans. I guess it just wasn't as toxic as it is today.

I had two other special moments there. The second-ever Subway Series game was a lot of fun even though the Mets lost, and I saw Jim Abbott's first New York appearance. I've never seen a visiting pitcher get a standing ovation just for his warm-up tosses. But watching him switch the glove back and forth in that fluid motion was really cool.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 30 2012 05:43 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

TransMonk wrote:
They're finally thinking about changing this...

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_ ... ources-say


"The nine largest crowds at Citi Field during the first three seasons of the stadium's existence were the Yankees' nine visits to Queens -- an average of 41,513 tickets sold per game."

metirish
Apr 30 2012 06:16 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I was at the new place on Father's Day when Santana got hammered in the 1st inning , I was in the bleachers wearing my FAFIF shirt, apart from not being able to see the field from 2nd base all the way over to RF all I got was some ribbing , plenty of Mets fans there though .....didn't hang around long though in those shit seats ...

Fman99
May 01 2012 06:55 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I went to the old park for a MFY/Red Sox tilt, sometime in the early 2000's. The fans were all animals, from both teams. I won't go back.

metirish
May 01 2012 06:57 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Yes, it's absolutely not a place I would bring my son.

Ceetar
May 01 2012 06:59 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Fman99 wrote:
I went to the old park for a MFY/Red Sox tilt, sometime in the early 2000's. The fans were all animals, from both teams. I won't go back.


Sunday?

I find in general weekend night crowds are the worse, even at Shea. I blame ESPN.

Fman99
May 01 2012 07:15 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

It was a Saturday matinee, box score here.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 01 2012 12:30 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Pettitte just testified that Roger told him he took HGH to help recover from injuries.

Edgy MD
May 01 2012 12:32 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Andy Pettitte: American.

(Of course, he's helping Roger set up his steroids-didn't-make-me-great-I-just-used-them-as-medicine-the-way-you-or-I-would-use-an-aspirin-so-we-could-go-to-work-and-feed-our-kids defense.)

Edgy MD
May 01 2012 12:38 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

So, the Mets are home on Friday night. Should they hoist the 2000 championship flag then or wait until the Sunday matinee?

SteveJRogers
May 01 2012 03:24 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

metsguyinmichigan wrote:
The MFYs were during a down period, so getting a cheap seat and moving down was never a problem. And I could wear a Blue Jays, Indians or Brewers cap and not get any crap from fans. I guess it just wasn't as toxic as it is today.


Not to play amateur psychoanalyst, but I'd wager it also wasn't a "thing" to rip in opponents, especially if they aren't playing in the same stadium. And most of the fights generally stemmed from just the usual reasons fights break out rather than blaming it on a fan being in the wrong place.

Don't know whom to entirely blame for this kind of behavior, ESPN for constantly driving home the "rivalry" to the point where I'm sure a match up between the teams 20 games apart in the standings will be treated as if the division title is on the line.

Hell, Bobby Valentine has a paid spot on ESPN radio in New York! What does that say about how they treat the Red Sox.

Makes you wonder though about how much shit people take these days just for wearing a cap or a hat when the team isn't playing.

I usually approach those fans in a good natured way usually saying "(chuckle) shouldn't you be in (wherever that team is that day)?" but I tried that bit on a Phillie fan one time at Citi and he looked at me with a cold "don't fuck with me" glare and said "Walk away." Even after I explained I was just having some good natured fun and conversation.

Did have another experience outside a ballpark here in the Westchester area one time that was similar when I saw a child in a Chipper Jones Braves shirt outside of a movie theatre. I walked up to him, same manner chuckling and smiling and saying how it was pretty bold to be wearing that shirt around these parts. Kid stared at me blankly and didn't respond, the mother (or a woman whom I'd assume was his mother) scurried him away as I was explaining what I was talking about, saying, it looks like he's a Braves fan. Her response while walking away was "No...no...he's not." Almost as if the kid had real stupid DB shit thrown at him that was worse than a simply saying it's a bold move to be wearing that shirt in this town.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 01 2012 03:53 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

It's also possible, Jeets, that she saw an older guy talking to her little boy and made another protective assumption.

Frayed Knot
May 01 2012 04:22 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

SteveJRogers wrote:
The MFYs were during a down period, so getting a cheap seat and moving down was never a problem. And I could wear a Blue Jays, Indians or Brewers cap and not get any crap from fans. I guess it just wasn't as toxic as it is today.


Not to play amateur psychoanalyst, but I'd wager it also wasn't a "thing" to rip in opponents, especially if they aren't playing in the same stadium. And most of the fights generally stemmed from just the usual reasons fights break out rather than blaming it on a fan being in the wrong place.

Don't know whom to entirely blame for this kind of behavior, ESPN for constantly driving home the "rivalry" to the point where I'm sure a match up between the teams 20 games apart in the standings will be treated as if the division title is on the line.


I vote for: 'Sense of entitlement among YLDBs who think their team winning extends to them a feeling of superiority over those unfortunate fans who root for the "wrong" teams and therefore the right to mock and/or intimidate (verbally or physically) them'.
But, hey, that's just me.

Edgy MD
May 01 2012 05:24 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Steve, considering how high the stakes and tensions have risen, instead of gently and jokingly playing the part of unwelcoming asshole, I'd cut right past that and play the part of welcoming prince.

Seriously: "You must be from Atlanta! Welcome to New York! Are you having a good time?! I hope everybody's been hospitable! My name's Steve and I just want you to know that... Wait, let me get that cotton candy! No, I insist! Folks do no less for me when I'm down in Georgia!"

metirish
May 01 2012 06:25 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
It's also possible, Jeets, that she saw an older guy talking to her little boy and made another protective assumption.



dying

Ceetar
May 02 2012 05:54 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I vote for "economy sucks, people struggling at home or walking crappy jobs. pent up aggression likely to come out with other strong emotional (Fan) reactions. "

Probably a contributing factor to "Ya Gotta Believe" becoming "Ya Gotta Sell!" too.

metsmarathon
May 02 2012 06:28 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

yankee fans were raging assholes before the housing house of cards tumbled to the ground.

mets fans were raging lunatics before the madoff hit the fan.

Ceetar
May 02 2012 06:46 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

metsmarathon wrote:
yankee fans were raging assholes before the housing house of cards tumbled to the ground.

mets fans were raging lunatics before the madoff hit the fan.


yeah...but that may have bumped up the percentages.

Edgy MD
May 02 2012 07:01 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

metsmarathon wrote:
yankee fans were raging assholes before the housing house of cards tumbled to the ground.

mets fans were raging lunatics before the madoff hit the fan.


I see a bumper sticker.

MFS62
May 02 2012 07:20 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

metsmarathon wrote:
yankee fans were raging assholes before the housing house of cards tumbled to the ground.

That's funny, because the most virulent Yankee fan in my office calls people from the State in which the Red Sox play "Massholes".

I see a pot/kettle thingie going there.

Later

soupcan
May 02 2012 10:07 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

metirish wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely not a place I would bring my son.


That's how I felt about Giants Stadium and probably holds true for Giants/Jets/MetLife Stadium.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
SteveJRogers wrote:
Did have another experience outside a ballpark here in the Westchester area one time that was similar when I saw a child in a Chipper Jones Braves shirt outside of a movie theatre. I walked up to him, same manner chuckling and smiling and saying how it was pretty bold to be wearing that shirt around these parts. Kid stared at me blankly and didn't respond, the mother (or a woman whom I'd assume was his mother) scurried him away as I was explaining what I was talking about, saying, it looks like he's a Braves fan. Her response while walking away was "No...no...he's not." Almost as if the kid had real stupid DB shit thrown at him that was worse than a simply saying it's a bold move to be wearing that shirt in this town.
also possible, Jeets, that she saw an older guy talking to her little boy and made another protective assumption.


I would say that that is EXACTLY what she did.

Mets – Willets Point
May 02 2012 10:09 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Masshole is a term used locally here in Massachusetts as well, generally to describe the stereotypical aggressive and selfish drivers of our fine Commonwealth.

metsmarathon
May 02 2012 11:24 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

soupcan wrote:
metirish wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely not a place I would bring my son.


That's how I felt about Giants Stadium and probably holds true for Giants/Jets/MetLife Stadium.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
SteveJRogers wrote:
Did have another experience outside a ballpark here in the Westchester area one time that was similar when I saw a child in a Chipper Jones Braves shirt outside of a movie theatre. I walked up to him, same manner chuckling and smiling and saying how it was pretty bold to be wearing that shirt around these parts. Kid stared at me blankly and didn't respond, the mother (or a woman whom I'd assume was his mother) scurried him away as I was explaining what I was talking about, saying, it looks like he's a Braves fan. Her response while walking away was "No...no...he's not." Almost as if the kid had real stupid DB shit thrown at him that was worse than a simply saying it's a bold move to be wearing that shirt in this town.
also possible, Jeets, that she saw an older guy talking to her little boy and made another protective assumption.


I would say that that is EXACTLY what she did.


stranger danger!

seawolf17
May 02 2012 01:49 PM
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Frayed Knot
May 02 2012 07:43 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Ivan Nova (I like to call him New John) in danger of actually losing a game in the Bronx tonight. Such a loss would break his streak of like 89 in a row or something despite only pitching well in about 1/3 of them. This season, for instance, he was 3-0 in 4 starts coming into this game even though his ERA sits north of 5.00.
All the O's have to do is hold on to their 5-0 lead through the final two innings. IOW, it's about a 50/50 proposition.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 02 2012 08:31 PM
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first place O's

G-Fafif
May 02 2012 09:10 PM
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If A.L. playoffs began today, MFYs out of the picture completely, even with the extra Wild Card.

Not that I notice stuff like that or anything.

MFS62
May 02 2012 09:48 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
first place O's

And leading off tonight for those first place O's was Endy Chavez. (hitting .109)

Later

MFS62
May 03 2012 06:03 PM
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Don't know if there's a thread for the new Clemens trial, but ...
Lying fuckers:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/andy-petti ... -case.html
Both of them.
Later

Ceetar
May 03 2012 06:26 PM
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Mariano with some knee strain. nothing a dose of HGH doesn't solve I imagine.

metirish
May 03 2012 06:36 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
Don't know if there's a thread for the new Clemens trial, but ...
Lying fuckers:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/andy-petti ... -case.html
Both of them.
Later


scumbags the both of them.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 03 2012 06:55 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Mariano with some knee strain. nothing a dose of HGH doesn't solve I imagine.


Guy's 42 years old. Was shagging flies before the game when his knee bucked and went flat on his back.

Near home plate, teammate Alex Rodriguez could be seen reacting to the scene in the outfield, saying ''Oh, my God. Oh, my God.''


This is about to get real interesting. I guess that scuz they got from the Rays is the new closer.

Fman99
May 03 2012 07:05 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Throw him in his own pool, he's done.

HahnSolo
May 03 2012 07:09 PM
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metirish wrote:
Don't know if there's a thread for the new Clemens trial, but ...
Lying fuckers:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/andy-petti ... -case.html
Both of them.
Later


scumbags the both of them.


I agree with the scumbags part, but I thought all along that this case will hinge on how believable McNamee is.

metirish
May 03 2012 07:14 PM
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Fman99 wrote:
Throw him in his own pool, he's done.



dying over here....which is better than dying over there..

themetfairy
May 03 2012 07:22 PM
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Fman99 wrote:
Throw him in his own pool, he's done.


Revenge is a dish best served fried?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 03 2012 09:49 PM
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Torn ACL.

Plus they just became the first team to lose to to the Royals in KC this year.

The Second Spitter
May 04 2012 01:07 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Torn ACL.


Shocking.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
Mariano with some knee strain. nothing a dose of HGH doesn't solve I imagine.


Guy's 42 years old. Was shagging flies before the game when his knee bucked and went flat on his back.


As a speaker of British/Australian English, 'shagging fly balls' has always sounded like a bad idea.

Ceetar
May 04 2012 07:05 AM
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I've actually been looking forward to this for a while. Now despite the Yankees having relievers just as effective over the last couple of years, they get to panic and judge and hate their closer and call for his head when he blows the first one.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 04 2012 07:17 AM
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Old Hoss Radbourn ? @OldHossRadbourn
Like M. Rivera, I too was forced to retire from base ball due to an injury acquired whilst shagging. Mine of course was syphilis.

MFS62
May 04 2012 07:25 AM
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If Joe Torre dies in the next few days, will it mean that he really did have a pact with the Devil?

Later

Frayed Knot
May 04 2012 07:29 AM
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David Robertson - the obvious choice to slide into the 9th inning role - has been pretty damn good, essentially throwing to an ERA of 1.00 since the beginning of 2011, a span covering nearly 80 innings.

Where losing your closer really hurts (for anyone really but especially so in this case) isn't that the 9th innings will suddenly become disasters, but that now some lesser light has to move in and cover Robertson's innings and on down the chain.
Yanx have a 137-to-86 starter to reliever innings ratio through 25 games: IOW, their starters are covering just 61% of the innings (AL avg = 66%) so things were already a bit tight. Last night they had to press David Phelps into a start because of the failures of Freddie Garcia. Phelps was a starter in the minors but not a particularly top-flight one and, while he wasn't bad last night, he went through a ton of pitches before having to be pulled after four IP.

Bottom line is that losing Rivera, as valuable as he is by himself, hurts more because it's another brick in the cumulative set of problems the Yanqui staff has going on.

Ceetar
May 04 2012 07:41 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:


Bottom line is that losing Rivera, as valuable as he is by himself, hurts more because it's another brick in the cumulative set of problems the Yanqui staff has going on.


Right. I haven't paid a ton of attention but I don't think the back end of that bullpen is particularly good. Robertson was arguably better than Rivera over the last years or so, despite the whole 'proven closer' thing. I'm looking forward to the panic involved over that idea and if Robertson dares to have a shaky outing soon (which he's probably due for too since no one's perfect).

Edgy MD
May 04 2012 07:53 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:

Old Hoss Radbourn ? @OldHossRadbourn
Like M. Rivera, I too was forced to retire from base ball due to an injury acquired whilst shagging. Mine of course was syphilis.

Wait. Have I missed this? Rivera hasn't come out and announced his retirement, has he, Hoss?

seawolf17
May 04 2012 08:05 AM
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They can have Francisco if they want.

Frayed Knot
May 04 2012 08:20 AM
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I'm looking forward to the panic involved over that idea and if Robertson dares to have a shaky outing soon (which he's probably due for too since no one's perfect).


Especially from those raised in the Mike Francesa school of critical thinking, the one that teaches that good relievers do not necessarily make good ninth inning relievers, or about how good players in the regular season not automatically being good October players.
So it'll be the graduates of that school - and certainly the teacher himself - who are going to be quickest to express the thought that Robertson, because he's going to a new role, is currently nothing more than an unproven commodity until he shows otherwise, and that his the first stumble is not just a bad day but rather the first piece of "evidence" that he's out of his element meaning that a real 9th inning replacement must be found so that Robertson can be moved back to the 8th inning that therefore back to being good.


As Captain Queeg put it about missing strawberries: "and I was proving it with geometric logic..."

Edgy MD
May 04 2012 08:25 AM
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On the other hand. This may have saved the Yankee the challenge of replacing a legend just when he was going to start declining anyhow.

Robertson is exactly where Rivera was back in 1996 --- past 25 and still setting up for a vet he's consistently outperforming.

MFS62
May 04 2012 08:28 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Especially from those raised in the Mike Francesa school of critical thinking,

Which he loves to summarize in one brief prrase "I told ya' so".

Later

metirish
May 04 2012 08:39 AM
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Have the beat writers suggested a video tribute at Citi Filed yet and then chastise any of us who tell them to cop the fuck on?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 04 2012 09:00 AM
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FACEBOOK PRO TIP: Even the most ostensibly good-humored FB-friends-who-happen-to-be-MFY-fans don't seem to take kindly to one's suggestions that Rivera's injury might be due to something he did that displeased his God.

Ceetar
May 04 2012 09:01 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
FACEBOOK PRO TIP: Even the most ostensibly good-humored FB-friends-who-happen-to-be-MFY-fans don't seem to take kindly to one's suggestions that Rivera's injury might be due to something he did that displeased his God.


try telling them don't worry the HGH will have him back soon. That'll cheer them up.

metsguyinmichigan
May 04 2012 09:07 AM
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He's the last active No. 42, I think.

That injury sounds like the kind of thing that happens to Mets.

Benjamin Grimm
May 04 2012 09:14 AM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
He's the last active No. 42, I think.


The Mets should reactivate Butch Huskey or Ron Hodges so that they can take that honor away from Rivera.

Edgy MD
May 04 2012 09:16 AM
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Or insist that legacies get grandfathered in so Cory Vaughn can inherit the number from Unky Mo.

Edgy MD
May 04 2012 09:32 AM
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Rivera hurt for the Yanks.
Bailey hurt for Sawx.
Farnsworth hurt for the Rays.
Santos hurt for the Jays.

Does that mean the Orioles with (looking him up...) Jim Johnson are the only team in the AL East that still have the closer they opened the season with active and healthy?

metsmarathon
May 04 2012 09:59 AM
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it's obvious to me in the wake of this injury, that pitchers have no business attempting to field balls, and especially should not practice to do so. they should throw the ball and get the fuck off hte field. major league baseball needs to adopt the DF (designated fielder) rule immediately and put an end to this ridiculous charade.

metsguyinmichigan
May 04 2012 01:21 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Supposedly Andy Pettitte is wrapping up his minor league warm-ups now that he's done defending Clemens. Think he'd be a candidate for them to throw out there for the ninth?

metirish
May 04 2012 01:30 PM
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Only the bore of the core is left, is AP considered part of the famed "four core"?

Frayed Knot
May 04 2012 01:41 PM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Supposedly Andy Pettitte is wrapping up his minor league warm-ups now that he's done defending Clemens. Think he'd be a candidate for them to throw out there for the ninth?


Nah, they're even more desperate for starters.
Once you get past Sa-bathtub-ia and Rookie Carroca (I once knew a lethal Bantamweight by that name), they're left with Phil Hughes who they'd like to demote to the pen but can't; Freddie Garcia who they'd like to dump in the river but can't; [crossout]Michael Pi[/crossout] oops, not him, and Ivan (not-so Super) Nova whose wins are going to go down rapidly as soon as he stops stumbling into games where he gets 12 runs/game scored for him.
Even their vaunted prospects Manny Banuelos & Dellin Batances -- whom they've cleverly dubbed with the highly original name 'The Killer Bees' -- have been injured and/or sucking in the minors so far this year.



is AP considered part of the famed "four core"?


Yes.
Also is considered part of the field in the Kentucky Derby tomorrow. As in; "Hey Andy, why the long face?"

Frayed Knot
May 04 2012 04:21 PM
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'I'm coming back ... there's no way I'm going out like this" -- So says Mr. Rivera.

Prior to this season he had been cagey about his plans for 2013 even though he claimed to have already decided - so either this injury changed those plans or just moved up the announcement of them.
That means a lengthy rehab plus gearing up for a season having turned 43 and with an 11 month or so lay-off.
I believe this also entails negotiating a contract for next season as his current one runs out at the end of this year.
And does he automatically get his old role back even if Robertson is good there?

Should be interesting to follow.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 09 2012 01:34 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Something tells me Rusty Torres won't be invited to Old Timer's Day.

(warning: gross)

Frayed Knot
May 09 2012 03:08 PM
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Former MFY OFer (and out-spoken Christian IIRC) Chad Curtis was in the news recently over some accusations involving youth players.
The charges over that one sounded a bit more iffy although he dissed Jeter once so the odds of him ever getting an OTD invite were already in the toilet.

Ashie62
May 09 2012 04:41 PM
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Pettitte starts Sunday against the Mariners..

Frayed Knot
May 09 2012 08:28 PM
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Pettitte starts Sunday against the Mariners..


Getting your first start in over a year against Seattle is what they call in the business, a soft landing.




Meanwhile, YLDBs not enjoying the first two days of the David Robertson era:

- Tuesday night; comes in in the 9th with a 2-run lead:
GO, BB, 1B, K, BB, K -- gets the save but loads the bases in doing so

- Tonight; comes in with a one-run lead to begin the 9th:
1B, 1B, BB, K, SF (Blown Save), 3R-HR ... and yanked.

Ceetar
May 09 2012 08:39 PM
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Robertson feeling a little bit of the Parnell effect. Due for a bit of a letdown, and promoted just before it happens. Now let the blame fall on the promotion rather than the randomness of it.

MFS62
May 10 2012 07:09 AM
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Something tells me Rusty Torres won't be invited to Old Timer's Day.

(warning: gross)

That's sick.
Please don't tell us that he gave them gift baskets and autographed pictures afterwards.

Later

MFS62
May 13 2012 10:43 AM
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Yogi Berra visited Yankee Stadium III yesterday.
There was a picture of him in today's NY Daily News. It shows him being driven around in a golf cart. And hanging around his neck is what looks to be an ID badge.
Anyone associated with baseball in general and the team in particular should recognize Yogi Berra - from the casual fan to the stadium guards to the ushers to the vendors and especially to the person who told him to wear it.

Infamia!

That person who made YOGI BERRA wear an ID badge at YS III should be banned from baseball, then locked in a warm humid room for a week, listening to a continuous audio tape of Suzyn Waldmann.


Later

Frayed Knot
May 13 2012 10:46 AM
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Everyone has to wear a badge in order to get past the "moat" in the stands that separates the elite from the mere mortals who only pay like one or two hundred dollars for their seats.

MFS62
May 13 2012 11:11 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Everyone has to wear a badge in order to get past the "moat" in the stands that separates the elite from the mere mortals who only pay like one or two hundred dollars for their seats.

I like your sarcasm.
But if Yogi isn't elite there and needs to wear either an ID badge or some other type of pass, then someone has to redefine that word.

Later

Kong76
May 18 2012 03:43 PM
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It's pretty comical listening to Sweeny M. sounding like
Eddie C. of old lately.

Frayed Knot
May 19 2012 07:21 AM
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Does anybody on this fucking team ever get old?

- Jeter, 38 in a few weeks, is having his best season in about a decade while leading the ML in hits

- Rivera is already 42 fer chrissakes and, in a position where no one dominates for more than a few seasons, was, prior to fucking up his knee, maintaining sub-1.00 WHiP and sub-2.00 ERAs throughout his late 30s and into his 40s

- Raul Freakin' Ibanez turns 40 next week and, after signing for dirt cheap, is on pace for 30+ HRs (after hitting 36 over the last TWO seasons combined), has had half of his hits go for extra-bases, and is averaging nearly an RBI per hit

- and now Pettitte, 40 next month, tosses a 4-hit (8 inning) shutout w/9 Ks in his 2nd start in 18 months.

MFS62
May 19 2012 07:23 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Somewhere there's a Yankee team picture ...
Later

Ceetar
May 19 2012 07:44 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Does anybody on this fucking team ever get old?

- Jeter, 38 in a few weeks, is having his best season in about a decade while leading the ML in hits

- Rivera is already 42 fer chrissakes and, in a position where no one dominates for more than a few seasons, was, prior to fucking up his knee, maintaining sub-1.00 WHiP and sub-2.00 ERAs throughout his late 30s and into his 40s

- Raul Freakin' Ibanez turns 40 next week and, after signing for dirt cheap, is on pace for 30+ HRs (after hitting 36 over the last TWO seasons combined), has had half of his hits go for extra-bases, and is averaging nearly an RBI per hit

- and now Pettitte, 40 next month, tosses a 4-hit (8 inning) shutout w/9 Ks in his 2nd start in 18 months.


there's a pill for that.

Ceetar
Jun 15 2012 06:47 AM
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I always enjoy the Braves organist. I forgot to pay attention last week though.

#Braves vs #Yankees - Jet and 'Leaving on a Jet Plane' for Jeter


#Braves vs #Yankees - Take the Money and Run for Teixera next time


#Braves vs #Yankees - Next for A Rod - 'I Wan't a New Drug' ;-)


#Braves vs #Yankees - they just showed a sleeping Yankees fan on BravesVision ;-)


#Braves vs #Yankees - Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer for Andruw Rudolph Jones


#Braves vs. #Yankees - Mrs. Robinson for Robinson Cano

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 26 2012 11:04 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

A-Rod loves Mex and the Davey Johnson Mets; even owns a game used Keith Jersey, gifted to him by Keith himself.


A-Rod's first true love? Mex's Mets
Yanks? As if! Bombers star grew up idolizing Keith Hernandez and the Amazin's

By Andrew Marchand | ESPNNewYork.com

The apprehensive 13-year-old approached Keith Hernandez. Like any other kid meeting his idol, a "super nervous" feeling rushed though his body. Finally, with his courage up, the youngster addressed the player he had spent so many nights watching on TV.

"You are my favorite player," Alex Rodriguez recalled saying. "I hope to be drafted one day."

The funny thing about that chance meeting in 1988 is that Hernandez remembers it, too. Hernandez, the former MVP, was rehabbing a hamstring injury at Florida International University when this kid -- who had yet to hit any of his 640 homers -- walked up to him.

What sticks out most in Hernandez's mind was not Rodriguez's "imposing physique," but his intensity.

"He was very intent to listen," said Hernandez, now an analyst on the Mets' network, SNY. "He asked questions."

Rodriguez has shown some chameleon tendencies during his career, claiming this place or that place was always his dream spot. But, in reality, on the eve of the latest Subway Series, Rodriguez knows it wasn't Texas, despite the money, or the Yankees, despite the history, that tugged at his heart.

It was the Mets.

Growing up in Miami in the '80s, there were three main outlets for Rodriguez to watch baseball. There was WGN for the Cubs, WTBS for the Braves and WOR for the Mets.

He didn't have much affection for anyone at Wrigley. He loved Dale Murphy during the years that preceded the Braves' glorious run in the '90s. But A-Rod's favorite team was the Mets, cemented by the fact that they added Hernandez in 1983.

"Him and [Gary] Carter were the finishing two pieces of furniture to create the perfect house," Rodriguez said. "And they got the championship in '86."

Fourteen years later, the Mets would return to their next World Series. By that time, A-Rod, just 25, had already nailed 241 homers -- 79 more than Hernandez had in his entire 17-year career.

Rodriguez, on the verge of hitting the market as possibly the most celebrated free agent in baseball history, famously showed up at Shea Stadium for the Subway Series, hoping he would emulate his idol and one day lead the Mets to a World Series title.

Rodriguez wanted to be a Met so bad that one person close to him still insists he would have taken less than the $252 million the Texas Rangers ended up forking over.

Instead, in the first of A-Rod's many public relations disasters, a back-and-forth between his then-agent, Scott Boras, and the Mets resulted in the Mets failing to even bid on A-Rod. All he got from his favorite team was the "24-plus-one" tag pinned on him like a scarlet letter by then-GM Steve Phillips.

These days, A-Rod is struggling at the plate, on pace for 26 homers and fewer than 80 RBIs. He will turn 37 next month, which is an age Hernandez never made it to as a player. Rodriguez is no longer a kid.

In the Yankees' clubhouse the other day, Rodriguez relished reminiscing about Hernandez's game.

Rodriguez never played first base. He was always a shortstop growing up, which is why he has an equal fondness for Cal Ripken Jr. as he does for Hernandez. But Hernandez's intensity, and his leadership on the field, drew A-Rod in.

For all of Rodriguez's physical skills, one of the aspects of his game that perhaps has not received enough attention is his mind. While Derek Jeter's success resides in the fact that he simplifies everything, Rodriguez loves the complexities of the game, talking it, living it and, most of all, playing it.

"Everything about Hernandez, I loved," Rodriguez said. "I love the game so much. I'm such a gym rat. Hernandez was kind of the epitome of all of it. He was like a manager out on the field. He was always in the pitcher's ear. He was kind of like Davey Johnson, Part 2. And he was such a clutch hitter."

The two are acquaintances now. Rodriguez, who can afford nearly anything in the world, calls the game-used uniform and mitt Hernandez gave him one of his "prized possessions."

Rodriguez's career will never be looked at as perfect, largely because of his performance-enhancing drug use admission. But players respect his skill level and his accomplishments.

Nearly a quarter-century after the two met, the meeting is just as special to Hernandez as it was for the apprehensive teenager in Miami.

"It means a lot to me," the 58-year-old Hernandez said. "It is a great compliment. He is a far better player than I ever was. It is always very flattering. Everyone has someone they looked up to. Mine was Mickey Mantle. For Alex Rodriguez to idolize me coming up, that makes me feel very good."


http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_ ... andez-mets

Frayed Knot
Jun 26 2012 11:23 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Sportswriters fall for this story every time ARod tells it - and there probably are some bits of truth to it.

But he also insisted that his favorite team was the Braves (Dale Murphy, TBS, etc) right around the time he was talking to them during his FA tour; curiously that talk stopped when they wouldn't give him the money or the no-trade deals he insisted on.
And while he asserts that he would have signed for less money, that doesn't at all jive with hiring the agent whose whole raison d'etre in agenting it to go after the most money or that Boras freely admitted on the old M&MD show that he absolutely asked for the merchandising tents and all that other rumored stuff that were at least a factor in stopping negotiations; or that when the Mets backed out there was no apparent attempt to go back to them with a less monsterous offer; or that or that the deal he eventually took WAS the one for the most money even though it wasn't in one of the previously mentioned favorite places; or that that he's used escape clauses twice in attempts to up his deals; or that he's often said that he wanted to be the highest paid player in MLB and that it's something he's proud of.

But the biggest crock in this whole thing is that he knows he's got a captive audience of both NYC-based and national writers, each of whom seem to trot this 'I really wanted to be a Met' story out as if they're breaking news despite being on its 25th or so iteration by now.
At least Reggie was a charming bullshitter back when these same writers and/or their previous generation brethren were taking down his words as if they belonged on a stone tablet. ARod doesn't even have that going for him.

SteveJRogers
Jun 26 2012 11:53 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:

But the biggest crock in this whole thing is that he knows he's got a captive audience of both NYC-based and national writers, each of whom seem to trot this 'I really wanted to be a Met' story out as if they're breaking news despite being on its 25th or so iteration by now.


Especially in times where Wilpon hate is at its highest levels. "Want more things to blame the Wilpons for? Don't forget that they were the reason the Mets failed to sign ARod when he wanted to be here."

One of my favorite conspiracy theories that got attached to that, is that if the Mets had signed ARod, that would have meant a higher franchise value, and more money to payout to Nelson when the split occurred.

As if the Mets couldn't be creative with future financial considerations, like with the infamous Bonilla deal.

Edgy MD
Jun 27 2012 11:30 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

So, DeWayne Wise, you spend a lifetime playing baseball, ten years at the big-league level, then you join the Yankees and become a shameless, pointless cheater. How does that happen? Do they give you a manual at orientation?

metsmarathon
Jun 27 2012 11:37 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

in his defense, he didn't actually try to deceive the ump. he was still trying to pry himself out of the seats when the ump called the out. i don't really expect him to open up his glove and tell the up, 'no, actually i never caught it. go talk to the guy in the red shirt a few rows up. i think he has it'

he just smiled and ran, undoubtedly happy the inning was over so that he didn't have to return the phantomball to the pitcher.

G-Fafif
Jun 27 2012 11:40 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Nobody's better at having birthdays than Derek Jeter, who is better at having everything than everybody, per usual.

round 3:30 p.m. Tuesday, two Yankee Stadium kitchen employees walked through the tunnel pushing a cart with a birthday cake on it almost the size of the jersey it was designed to replicate.

The cake was for Derek Jeter, who turned 38 on Tuesday but did not exactly embrace his advancing age with much warmness or acknowledgment.

It was business as usual, Jeter preparing to bat leadoff and play shortstop as he has done almost every game this season — save for the eight he has served as the designated hitter — with the same verve as when he first arrived as a 20-year-old rookie in May 1995.

“I never took anything for granted,” Jeter said. “I never assumed that just because I’m 30, that I’d be back playing the next year. I’ve just never had that mind-set. I’ve always had the mind-set that you have to prove yourself and do your job. That’s what I’ve had since I came up.”


One assume he had the kitchen employees reassigned.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 27 2012 11:55 AM
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Mazzillionth update: Lacey has joined dad Lee in working for the MFYs.

Also: Sabathia to DL with a strained I-Don't-Wanna-Go-To-The-All-Star-Game.

seawolf17
Jun 27 2012 11:57 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Mazzillionth update: Lacey has joined dad Lee in working for the MFYs.


??

Edgy MD
Jun 27 2012 11:57 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Why do they always let Jeter essay on how awesome his attitude is? If I'm a reporter, I have to call him on that.

Ceetar
Jun 27 2012 11:58 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Why do they always let Jeter essay on how awesome his attitude is? If I'm a reporter, I have to call him on that.


yeah, but they you wouldn't get any gift baskets.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 27 2012 12:02 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Mazzillionth update: Lacey has joined dad Lee in working for the MFYs.


??


I'm talking about the Mazzilli clan.

Ceetar
Jun 27 2012 12:22 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread



Lacey June Mazzilli ?@lacey_june
I cannot wait for Spice Girls the musical!! http://t.co/4NRg8rkW


Frayed Knot
Jun 27 2012 12:33 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Also: Sabathia to DL with a strained I-Don't-Wanna-Go-To-The-All-Star-Game.


That's the line of the day. Although it's probably more along the lines of 'I was ordered not to go to the ASG'
Now the only problem with that strategy is that Pettitte just took a liner off his foot and had to leave the game.

Edgy MD
Jun 27 2012 12:35 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

One pitch and the hook. A John Maine start.

The Yankees will probably go get John Maine.

Ceetar
Jun 27 2012 12:41 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
One pitch and the hook. A John Maine start.

The Yankees will probably go get John Maine.


how's he doing?

Maine is 1-2 12ERA in 6 IP with 7 walks and 8 Ks.

Ceetar
Jun 27 2012 12:46 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Maine's last start was Saturday

lead off walk

pick off throwing error

walk

single and an RBI

pitching coach visit

HBP

single, 2 RBI.

infield single to Maine.

K swinging.

single, 1 RBI.

walks in a run.


and pulled for Nelson Figueroa.

Edgy MD
Jun 27 2012 01:40 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Hochster reporting from the game. Fractured ankle for Pettitte. No surgery, but six weeks minimum. They may indeed work their way down to Maine by then.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 27 2012 01:42 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Hochster reporting from the game. Fractured ankle for Pettitte. No surgery, but six weeks minimum. They may indeed work their way down to Maine by then.


LOL

Frayed Knot
Jun 27 2012 01:57 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

So, in typical MFY fashion, on the day Pettitte exits early and successor's Epply & Rapada combine to give up more hits than outs, Freakin' Freddie Garcia pitches 2-1/3 of perfect relief while the bats tack on a few.
5-3 Skanks in the 9th although Soriano is in a bit of trouble.

Frayed Knot
Jun 27 2012 02:14 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Freaking Indians loaded the bases with one out then went K - BB - FO and so lost by one.

No word on how many non-catches were tallied as outs.

Ceetar
Jun 27 2012 02:41 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I thought the Yankees had two stud Ace pitching prospects about to come up? What do you mean one's injured and one has a 6+ ERA?

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 27 2012 05:03 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Why do they always let Jeter essay on how awesome his attitude is? If I'm a reporter, I have to call him on that.


Sports writers tend to be pack animals. You want someone to get shunned for going against the story line?

Ashie62
Jun 27 2012 07:50 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

The Mets strained Sabathia's groin.

Ceetar
Jun 29 2012 05:47 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Hochster reporting from the game. Fractured ankle for Pettitte. No surgery, but six weeks minimum. They may indeed work their way down to Maine by then.


interesting to note, Pettitte went on the _60_ day DL (Mets aren't the only one with roster management concerns) so six weeks is not even an option. Gonna be at least almost nine.

PiggiesTomatoes
Jun 29 2012 10:02 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Another banner pitching night for the Stripers. Even had Wise pitch the last 2/3 inning.

Edgy MD
Jun 30 2012 06:18 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Wow, is Rick Wise still hanging around?

PiggiesTomatoes
Jun 30 2012 08:51 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Even 30 years after retiring, they could have used him last night.

seawolf17
Jun 30 2012 06:50 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

PiggiesTomatoes wrote:
Another banner pitching night for the Stripers. Even had Wise pitch the last 2/3 inning.

The best part was where Wise only pretended to throw a pitch but the umpire called a strike anyway.

Swan Swan H
Jul 19 2012 08:28 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

So Brett Gardner got hurt on April 17, and after three months of rehab and general dicking around will undergo elbow surgery within a week, likely ending his season.

bmfc1
Jul 23 2012 04:07 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Ichiro Suzuki is now a MFY.

metirish
Jul 23 2012 04:14 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

bmfc1 wrote:
Ichiro Suzuki is now a MFY.



If this were five years ago I'd be thinking wow great player , now its wow he's washed up....great trade .

Ashie62
Jul 23 2012 04:45 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Watch...he'll go wild.

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2012 05:14 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

metirish wrote:
bmfc1 wrote:
Ichiro Suzuki is now a MFY.



If this were five years ago I'd be thinking wow great player , now its wow he's washed up....great trade .



He never walked much even in his prime, so now that his BA is down in the mid-.200s instead of mid-.300s, you're right, he's not nearly the player he used to be.
On the other hand he doesn't really have to be on that team. They wanted speed in the absence of Gardner; a glove that's better than Swisher (who is on the shelf for a couple of days at least); and it'll allow them to switch up the DH spot between Jones, Ibanez and whichever infielder they're resting that day.
Plus it's a lefty bat and we know what that means in that stadium especially when compared to Seattle. He has 4 HRs to date this year and I'll bet he trumps that in his first 15 home games with the MFYs.

Don't know much about the pitchers. Ichiro, like Dempster, is signed just through this season so this is strictly a 60 game rental for the Yanx.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 23 2012 05:59 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

he'll hit 25 homers in that little league park.

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2012 07:29 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Don't know much about the pitchers.


Turns out they're both small-ish (5' 9" & 6' 0") right-handers and both from the 10th round of the 2008 draft (one by Yanx, one by Toronto) who John Sickels describes as "not stars but possible useful bullpen types".

For a 38 y/o, sub-.300 OBA guy who you weren't going to re-sign anyway you probably couldn't expect much more - especially seeing as how the deal will save you some $6mil (assuming no money changed hands). Of course that money is couch cushion change for the Yanx.

The Second Spitter
Jul 23 2012 07:31 PM
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He also gives the Yankees an excuse to retire another number. And in the 50's. Wow!

DocTee
Jul 23 2012 07:34 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Wonder if he'll keep 51 or defer to Bernie and opt for sumpin' different.

he did take 51 from Randy Johnson before that uni was even cold so there's a precedent

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2012 07:36 PM
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He also gives the Yankees an excuse to retire another number. And in the 50's. Wow!


Even the Yanx' standards aren't that low.
Now if he hung around for two more years and got his 3,000th MLB hit with them ... well then that's a different story! That the first 2,500 came elsewhere would conveniently be ignored.


oe: That's right, #51 is most likely off limits.

Swan Swan H
Jul 23 2012 07:37 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

31, reports say.

The Second Spitter
Jul 23 2012 07:47 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:
He also gives the Yankees an excuse to retire another number. And in the 50's. Wow!


Even the Yanx' standards aren't that low.
Now if he hung around for two more years and got his 3,000th MLB hit with them ... well then that's a different story! That the first 2,500 came elsewhere would conveniently be ignored.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2012 08:23 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

The Second Spitter wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
He also gives the Yankees an excuse to retire another number. And in the 50's. Wow!


Even the Yanx' standards aren't that low.
Now if he hung around for two more years and got his 3,000th MLB hit with them ... well then that's a different story! That the first 2,500 came elsewhere would conveniently be ignored.

Exactly what I was thinking.


He should definitely a Yanqui cap when he goes into the Hall of Fame though.
You're not really a HoF-er if you don't.

Edgy MD
Jul 23 2012 08:27 PM
Ichiro?

Fuck that. Make your own legends, you fucks.

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2012 08:51 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

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Single and SB in his first NYY AB
Batting 8th.

Edgy MD
Jul 23 2012 08:52 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Way to ruin a perfectly good legacy, Ichiro.

metsmarathon
Jul 24 2012 06:31 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Way to ruin a perfectly good legacy, Ichiro.


my thoughts exactly. that and, "damn, i used to like ichiro"

themetfairy
Jul 24 2012 06:46 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

What a slap in the face to Mariners fans, who basically didn't exist before Ichiro.

And to show up at the park only to see their hero suited up in the colors of the hated adversary had to have been a real kick in the gut on top of that.

Edgy MD
Jul 24 2012 06:47 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

It's like something hastily created in underground lab.

Ceetar
Jul 24 2012 06:51 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

themetfairy wrote:
What a slap in the face to Mariners fans, who basically didn't exist before Ichiro.

And to show up at the park only to see their hero suited up in the colors of the hated adversary had to have been a real kick in the gut on top of that.


There were probably fans there last night, that were running late and got there in the second, didn't look closely at the lineups, and were just suddenly blindsided by Ichiro batting in the top of the third.

MFS62
Jul 24 2012 07:02 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

metsmarathon wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Way to ruin a perfectly good legacy, Ichiro.


my thoughts exactly. that and, "damn, i used to like ichiro"

This.
Later

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2012 07:04 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I once pretended to like him, in order to be polite to three teenage girls on a bus in Kyoto.

Gwreck
Jul 24 2012 07:11 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

themetfairy wrote:
What a slap in the face to Mariners fans, who basically didn't exist before Ichiro.


Point of order: The Mariners were already an outstanding team with tons of fan support before Ichiro. His Mariner tenure did not overlap with Randy Johnson, Ken Griffey Jr. or Alex Rodiguez. The Mariner fans were already packing their new stadium a couple of years before Ichiro showed up.

As for the slap-in-the-face thing: yep. Mariner fan friends report this weeks' series as "surreal."

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2012 07:12 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
What a slap in the face to Mariners fans, who basically didn't exist before Ichiro.


That's a bit over the top.
The 1995 Griffey Jr/Randy Johnson/Edgar Martinez team which featured a crazy September run (winning 14 of 17 at one point) culminating in the one-game play-in win vs the Angels followed by the 1st round playoff comeback from 0-2 against the Yanx is the season that really woke up that franchise. That city had no idea what pennant race baseball was all about until they were suddenly immersed in it on a daily basis and suddenly discovered that baseball was a fun sport.
That year was the drive that got them out of the horrid Kingdome ("like watching a game in a Price Club" was my friend's comment) and the one which gave them the status to sign Ichiro.
He was a huge phenomenon no doubt, but they were already several years removed from being the invisible franchise by the time he got there.



And to show up at the park only to see their hero suited up in the colors of the hated adversary had to have been a real kick in the gut on top of that.


In some ways, yeah. Turns out he had asked to be traded and doing so to the team that is coming into town that very night is kind of weird.
But, if I'm a Mariners' fan, I'm looking at it like this: he's 38, barely productive, and was gone in two months whether he was dealt or not, so if this helps out the bullpen over the next year or three then better now than later. The only thing this really crushes is the 'one and only one' franchise thing if it turns out that he never plays again, but of course that ignores the entire first half of his career thing and even Yanqui fans aren't going to think of him as a Yanqui once this is all over (until they claim him as one of "their" HoF players years from now and wonder why he's wearing a Seattle cap on his plaque).

Ceetar
Jul 24 2012 07:15 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:
(until they claim him as one of "their" HoF players years from now and wonder why he's wearing a Seattle cap on his plaque).


This only happens, god forbid, if he gets a big hit on the way to a title.

themetfairy
Jul 24 2012 07:40 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Gwreck wrote:
What a slap in the face to Mariners fans, who basically didn't exist before Ichiro.


Point of order: The Mariners were already an outstanding team with tons of fan support before Ichiro. His Mariner tenure did not overlap with Randy Johnson, Ken Griffey Jr. or Alex Rodiguez. The Mariner fans were already packing their new stadium a couple of years before Ichiro showed up.

As for the slap-in-the-face thing: yep. Mariner fan friends report this weeks' series as "surreal."



Trust me on this one - I have in-laws in the Pacific Northwest. There were plenty of folks out there who had a team for 20 years but who never paid attention to them until Ichiro arrived. I witnessed that phenomenon firsthand - your point of order is denied.

Edgy MD
Jul 24 2012 09:46 AM
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Jason Bay hasn't been the same since Ichiro fucked with his house.

sharpie
Jul 24 2012 09:54 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I went to a Mariners game earlier this season and sat in right field. Place was filled with Japanese fans (Yu Darvish was going for the Rangers). Everytime Ichiro made a routine catch in right field the section would go wild. Not gonna happen here.

The Second Spitter
Jul 24 2012 09:56 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Jason Bay hasn't been the same since Ichiro fucked with his house.


On the basis of this article, I conclude the following:

Jason Bay can't smell what the Barack is cooking.

Ceetar
Jul 24 2012 10:09 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

sharpie wrote:
I went to a Mariners game earlier this season and sat in right field. Place was filled with Japanese fans (Yu Darvish was going for the Rangers). Everytime Ichiro made a routine catch in right field the section would go wild. Not gonna happen here.


no? The RF crowd goes crazy for Nick Swisher to wave at them. and then for Curtis Granderson to wave to them..

Gwreck
Jul 24 2012 11:22 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
Trust me on this one - I have in-laws in the Pacific Northwest. There were plenty of folks out there who had a team for 20 years but who never paid attention to them until Ichiro arrived. I witnessed that phenomenon firsthand - your point of order is denied.


I think you (or your in-laws) are confused on the timeline and are forgetting that Ichiro did not arrive until 2001.

As an example, the Mariners drew 3.2 million fans in 2000. To suggest their fans didn't exist before Ichiro is ludicrous.

themetfairy
Jul 24 2012 01:54 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I remember clearly a lot of folks who never paid attention to baseball jumping on the Mariners bandwagon in 2001.

And the attendance figures spiked that year, even in the new stadium.

Gwreck
Jul 24 2012 02:16 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

They did also win 116 games that year (admittedly with Ichiro a large part of that).

themetfairy
Jul 24 2012 02:41 PM
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Yes, but what was different in the rural areas was the merchandise and the people who never talked baseball before who were suddenly into Ichiro. Not necessarily people who would be making it into Seattle for games either way, but people who were suddenly following the team and into the merch. And they were all about Ichiro Ichiro Ichiro, where a couple of years prior they couldn't be bothered with baseball at all.

It happened that way. I witnessed the transformation. The Ichiro bandwagon effect was huge.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2012 03:09 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Well, that means that there were more Mariners fans once they got Ichiro, but not that there were none before that.

themetfairy
Jul 24 2012 03:21 PM
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We're quibbling. And I don't have an entire evening at hand to split hairs.

The difference was immense. You don't have to believe me. But I know what I witnessed.

Ashie62
Jul 24 2012 06:50 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

He will go the the HOF as a Yankee, right?

Frayed Knot
Jul 25 2012 07:16 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Your math lesson for the day kiddies

King Felix + baseball + ARod's hand = DL x 6 weeks

Edgy MD
Jul 25 2012 07:22 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Whoah.

Can Ichiro play third?

Ceetar
Jul 25 2012 07:23 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Whoah.

Can Ichiro play third?


They obviously are going to trade for Chipper, hold tight.

Edgy MD
Jul 25 2012 07:25 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Or Murphy.

Ceetar
Jul 25 2012 07:29 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Or Murphy.


Murphy isn't an over the hill hall of famer (yet) who's prime was like 10 years ago. he doesn't fit the theme.

But yeah, Murphy would actually fit in real well over there.

Frayed Knot
Jul 25 2012 07:30 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Some mix of Eric Chavez & Jayson Nix will play there for now.

Eduard Nunez, who played a bunch while ARod was sidelined last season, was demoted earlier this year and is now hurt. Nunez is a typical MFY hitter (high Ks, lots of HRs) so he'd fit right in, but he's also hoping that one day he can be as good a fielder as Daniel Murphy or Dan Uggla.

Edgy MD
Jul 25 2012 08:09 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

So, Reggie Jackson gets his number retired and Winfield gets his reshuffled. Nice.

Frayed Knot
Jul 25 2012 03:45 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

So, Reggie Jackson gets his number retired and Winfield gets his reshuffled. Nice.


Well, y'know, it's that whole May/October thing.




btw, a quick ARod/Chavez comparison seeing as how Chavez will probably be getting the majority of ARod's ABs for a while:

AR: .276/.358/.449; Walk Rate = .084; IsoP = .173; HRs = 1 every 28.5 PAs; XBHs = 1 every 13.3 PAs
EC: .269/.324/.474; Walk Rate = .055; IsoP = .205; HRs = 1 every 21.6 PAs; XBHs = 1 every 10.8 PAs

Now Chavez has seen only about 40% of the playing time compared to Rodriguez and has, up to now, had the advantage of facing almost exclusively RHPs. You figure that cushion won't be happening as often for a while but this is still not as big a blow to the Yanx as it would have been even a year or two ago especially, oddly enough, in the power department.

Edgy MD
Jul 29 2012 09:04 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Ichiro, looking for that True Yankee moment, lines out to end the eighth. Sox/Yanks go to the ninth tied.

Frayed Knot
Jul 29 2012 10:00 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Sawx finally win it with a run in the 9th but not before getting the short end of several calls -- Bobby got hisself tossed after the worst of them.

The Second Spitter
Jul 31 2012 12:26 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Confirmation Teixeira is a compulsive masturbator .

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 31 2012 07:54 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

He could be out for awhile, interesting to see if this outs any more pressure on the MFYs to deal for Daniel Muffy who could fill in for both Gayrod and Gayxiera.

Edgy MD
Jul 31 2012 07:56 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

He'd add ten homers to his total before the season was over.

G-Fafif
Jul 31 2012 01:01 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Don't worry, MFYs are reportedly moving in on Dempster.

Ceetar
Jul 31 2012 01:11 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

heard a couple of radio callers/hosts (in all of the 20 minutes I listened today) lining up the playoff rotation. They're all content if pettite gets back by mid-September that he'll be good to go in the playoffs. yup, he'll just turn it on, turn back the clock, not get hurt, and will be just awesome!

Frayed Knot
Jul 31 2012 01:56 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Teixeira's wrist "inflammation, not structural damage"

DeWayne Wise, dropped when Ichiro was added, refuses AAA assignment and will be FA.
Don't think he'd be of much use to us, but could see him hooking up with Philly for the rest of the year to serve as a kind of Victorino-lite.

G-Fafif
Jul 31 2012 02:02 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Dempster to Texas. MFYs announce thawing of cryogenically frozen Ewell "The Whip" Blackwell for fifth-starter role.

G-Fafif
Jul 31 2012 02:08 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

They are getting Casey McGehee for Chad Qualls. I'll just go ahead and say I hate Casey McGehee after not having thought of him since the last time we played Milwaukee.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 31 2012 02:09 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Always hated McGehee. Now I know why.

Frayed Knot
Jul 31 2012 02:11 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

G-Fafif wrote:
They are getting Casey McGehee for Chad Qualls. I'll just go ahead and say I hate Casey McGehee after not having thought of him since the last time we played Milwaukee.


Pittsburgh actually.

McGehee fills in at 1B & 3B/platoons with Eric Chavez

Ceetar
Jul 31 2012 02:15 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:
G-Fafif wrote:
They are getting Casey McGehee for Chad Qualls. I'll just go ahead and say I hate Casey McGehee after not having thought of him since the last time we played Milwaukee.


Pittsburgh actually.

McGehee fills in at 1B & 3B/platoons with Eric Chavez



Gee Golly McGehee just homered for the Yanks!

TransMonk
Jul 31 2012 02:19 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I've always said McGehee's name as if it were a Michael Jackson vocal riff.

G-Fafif
Jul 31 2012 02:28 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I always think of Casey McGehee when the Mets play the Brewers. I just block him out when they play the Pirates.

The Second Spitter
Jul 31 2012 02:32 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Neal Huntington ......smh. He's either on drugs or on the MFY payroll.

Vic Sage
Jul 31 2012 03:44 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

i love that they got Mcgehee. He sucks. I hope he plays every day.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 01 2012 06:58 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

TransMonk wrote:
I've always said McGehee's name as if it were a Michael Jackson vocal riff.


Same. (And same with Shawon Dunston.)

G-Fafif
Aug 02 2012 02:05 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Jeter reportedly out for surgery.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2012 02:09 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Not that Deadspin has a conscience, but they really shouldn't reward gay-hatin' hackers.

Ceetar
Aug 02 2012 02:12 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Not that Deadspin has a conscience, but they really shouldn't reward gay-hatin' hackers.


and the first two comments are Mets bashing. yay.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 02 2012 02:52 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Deadspin made a story the other day of teen olympic gymnasts period.

Because they're really Important for changing the dialog of sports in this country.

MFS62
Aug 02 2012 03:03 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Don't worry. ESPN Radio is still hasn't lost its focus. They're talking about the NFL the NBA and who will be transferring from Penn State.

Later

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2012 03:11 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

And of course, their army of [crossout:1v08h1gi]dittohead attention whores[/crossout:1v08h1gi] citizen journalists follow that up by hacking in to a bunch of other MLB twitter accounts and posting juvenile shit.

Frayed Knot
Aug 02 2012 07:46 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

This post is a bit long (OK it's a lot long. It started short but I got carried away) all for a pretty small point, but, wtf, we’re in a 30-some hour holding pattern between games here.


Let me just start this off by saying how much I love BB-Ref.com
For many reasons obviously, but mainly just for the information that used to be hidden from almost everyone but now is look-up-able in the matter of minutes by almost anyone.
And this morning I was able to look up something that's been bugging me much of this season.

You know when you watch games you pick up what certain players seem to do a lot, and I emphasize seem because it's hard to be sure if they really do that thing more often than most or if it's just a coincidence wherever you're watching. Like at one point a bunch of years back when I swear I went two seasons without seeing Keith Lockhart make an out. I'd look at the stats and he'd be hitting .231 with a .280 OBA and yet when I watched Braves games (and I watched often in those days via TBS) he'd get hits, or he'd get walks, or he'd get hit by pitches, but never make an out. It became almost an obsession with me, especially after the one time I'm watching a Braves game and Lockhart comes up with men on and I'm dreading the double in the corner that I know is coming; except that Lockhart suddenly popped up, and I’m amazed that the Atlanta opponent is going to get out of the inning, and not only that but I'm finally going to see Keith Lockhart make an actu ...
and the infielder dropped the ball!
At that point I'm looking around the room for ghosts but at least I knew KL’s out-less streak was just my bad luck because it was universally knowable that he actually made outs more than 70+% of the time, even if they all happened to be while I wasn’t looking.


Well I've had a similar thing going this year, and it involves a certain Derek Jeter and infield hits.
I usually catch a decent amount of Yanqui games although a lot fewer than my usual this year. But I’ve still seen Jeter get what seems like (there’s that key phrase) a TON of IF hits and I'm wondering if it's just one of those Lockhart things again. And the whole problem with even bringing up this topic without being able to prove it one way or the other is that the legion of Jeter defenders will just simply dismiss my so-called observations (and admittedly partial ones at that) as playa-hating from my Met-tilting brain which is programmed to dismiss all Jeter success as the result of luck. And maybe they'd even be right in this case.

But that's why it's great that we have BB-Ref
Using their 'Hit Location' breakdown under the yearly 'Splits' section we can easily see that more than 20% of Jeter's hits this year (28 of 137 for 20.4%) have been in the infield. ‘Well sure’ the Jeter-ites will say, ‘it’s because he’s fast and hustles more than any other human ever created’. Except that that reasoning doesn’t explain why, at age 38, his current IF-hit pct turns out to be the 2nd highest of his career (below only the 22% from 14 years ago) and nearly 50% higher than his career average of 14.3%

And what we're seeing aren't speedy-guy slap/bunt hits anyway - not like back in 1980 when the career .265-hitting Miguel Dilone managed, for exactly one season, to hit .341 by slapping the ball as he ran out of the batters box. No, what I keep seeing are the kind of topped "swinging bunts" that can't possibly be done on purpose but all just happen to wind up in a place where no one can make a play on them.

So anyway, this is just a long-winded way of saying that, no, I'm not wallowing in paranoia screaming to my TV set that the Yanx get all the breaks; that the facts point to Jeter really getting an absurd amount (even for him) of cheap hits this season to the point where at his normal rate (which I suspect is still higher than most) he'd lose some 20+ points off his current BA, and that I don't see any other conclusion except to think that he's just being really, really lucky these days at a pace which would be incredibly difficult to sustain.

Edgy MD
Aug 02 2012 08:42 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Well, you could really go off the deep end and conclude that a .330 hitting Jeter has been deemed to be good for baseball and American League infielders have been ordered to play him impossibly deep --- give him the cheapies to pump the stats and polish his image, but not tilt the outcomes of games so much as letting flares drop into the outfield for doubles would.

Ceetar
Aug 03 2012 05:29 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Well, you could really go off the deep end and conclude that a .330 hitting Jeter has been deemed to be good for baseball and American League infielders have been ordered to play him impossibly deep --- give him the cheapies to pump the stats and polish his image, but not tilt the outcomes of games so much as letting flares drop into the outfield for doubles would.


Could this not be true (that it's the defenders?) he plays on a team nicknamed the Bombers, when he's actually more like Luis Castillo. Everyone played Castillo short, but if he'd had the short porch, or had just taking a full freaking swing once or twice, defenders would've lined up normally and he would've gotten more hits, had a higher BABIP like Jeter, and hell actually contributed more. The comparison isn't a bad one, Castillo was often the leader in infield hits.

I've noticed the same with Jeter but it's been going on a while now. I think it also has something to do with his funky inside out swing, that puts some sort of crazy spin on the ball that infielders have more trouble fielding it. I don't get it though, it's Yankee Stadium and if he hits it hard it'll float out, so play him like Castillo and you'd do well right?

Also he gets a ton of benefit of the doubt in terms of beating out throws, and hits that should be errors.

Ceetar
Aug 03 2012 05:37 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

this is a fun one. Derek Jeter's OPS against AL Teams, starting from the worst

Red Sox: .752
Mariners: .769
White Sox: .774
Rays: .803

His highest BABIP, minimum 20 games? the Mets. .401. He's not a "Mets killer" he just gets all the breaks.

Shouldn't the aggressively shifting Rays be good at taking away these cheap hits?

10/49, no home runs this year. .529 OPS .227 BABIP
18/63 with 1 home run last year. .729 OPS .370 BABIP
25/83 no home runs in 2010. .699 OPS .347 BABIP

Edgy MD
Aug 03 2012 07:10 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

More interestingly, the Twitter hacks supposedly weren't actually hacks at all, but an inside job.

MFS62
Aug 03 2012 07:24 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Two things:
1) I'd love to see what those unseen "best ones" were.
2) The person who did it could write for The Onion, where they share the same opinion of Jeter.

Later

Edgy MD
Aug 03 2012 07:33 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I think way too much of the legitimate criticism of Jeter-ism is dulled by that sort of playground bully gay-baiting. It's the kind of ugly that nobody has mastered so well as the bleacher denizens of Yankee Stadium.

Ceetar
Aug 03 2012 07:42 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
I think way too much of the legitimate criticism of Jeter-ism is dulled by that sort of playground bully gay-baiting. It's the kind of ugly that nobody has mastered so well as the bleacher denizens of Yankee Stadium.


Hasn't happened in a while, but there was a subset of fans that used to chant "A-Rod's Boy-Friend" during Subway series games.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 03 2012 10:05 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Mild homophobia aside, the MLBAM-going-rogue act definitely had its moments.

Padres wrote:
Just a note: though the handicapped are allowed to enjoy Padres games at Petco Park, their presence is STRONGLY DISCOURAGED.


Cubs wrote:
Fuck Bill Murray.

metirish
Aug 03 2012 10:29 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Fman could totally work there.....not for pennies though.

seawolf17
Aug 03 2012 11:02 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

I liked the "going back to Montreal" one.

G-Fafif
Aug 03 2012 12:20 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

What's worse: A sitting Supreme Court justice going on a hunting trip with a sitting Vice President of the United States and not recusing himself from an upcoming case involving the VP -- Scalia and Cheney, circa 2004 -- or this shit with Sonia Sotomayor? I'd say it's a draw (though Scalia doesn't come off well here, either, MFYLDB-style).

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor joins Yankee Stadium Bleacher Creatures during first-inning Wednesday
Bronx native Sotomayor lauds Yankee fans as the 'greatest'

BY ROGER RUBIN / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS


Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor sat in judgment of the Bleacher Creatures Wednesday at the Stadium, and they got a very positive ruling.

“I pay homage to the bleacher creatures,” Sotomayor said during a seventh-inning interview in the Stadium press box. "They are the greatest fans."

Sotomayor, 58, came to the game and sat with “Bald Vinny” Milano in Section 203, where he leads the traditional “Roll Call” during the top of the first inning of every home game. She later moved to other seats, and saw her hometown Yankees pile up the runs against the Baltimore Orioles.

Well-known for her fandom when it comes to the Yankees, Sotomayor was invited to sit in the bleachers and do the Roll Call earlier this season when the Yanks played the Nationals in Washington. She loved every minute of being at the park.

“Having sat in the old Stadium bleachers anonymously, there is quite a chord that gets touched when you come back on a day like today and people are screaming out ‘Justice’ or ‘Sonia’ and it brings a little bit of a tear to my eye,” Sotomayor said. “I have changed so much, and we have a new Yankee Stadium, but the spirit of the Yankees is still in the house. It’s very moving to me and important to me that the comfort they gave me most of my life — watching most of the time win – continues.”

Sotomayor said that even though she is known as a baseball fan, she cannot call herself the High Court’s biggest.

“Justice (Antonin) Scalia is fond of reminding me that he was the first Yankees fan on the Court and he is still a very loyal Yankees fan,” she said. “I keep telling him the only difference is that I was born in the Bronx and he wasn’t.”

The Creatures were thrilled to have her with them.

“The first thing I said to her was, ‘I’m probably going to be the loudest guy you meet today, but I’m absolutely speechless,’ ” Milano told the Associated Press. “I don’t think she knew before she got here what she was in for.”

Of the creatures, she said “To sit in sweltering heat when the sun is blazing, to sit out there in the rain, to sit out there on days when we’re losing and not to take it out on our players takes heart. They show it every game, every time they come out. I felt very proud to be with them.”

Sotomayor took a moment to recount her favorite Yankee memory and didn’t hesitate to name the Bucky Dent home run from the one-game playoff with the Red Sox in 1978.

“I was in law school, made a bet with my dearest friends in law school and Bucky hit that home run and all the guys in the room lost the bet,” Sotomayor said.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 03 2012 12:37 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

She's pretty good at adjudicatin' and assignin' value an' all that. So, does she prefer the exuberant celebration of tolerance here...
[youtube]bRX01uclaRM[/youtube]

... or the totally non-threatening version of same here?

[youtube]ztPQieRucKE[/youtube]

Or is she more of a gangbang song gal?

Edgy MD
Aug 03 2012 01:09 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Sotomayor, 58, came to the game and sat with “Bald Vinny” Milano in Section 203, where he leads the traditional “Roll Call” during the top of the first inning of every home game. She later moved to other seats...


I'll bet she did.

Frayed Knot
Aug 03 2012 02:18 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Real easy to sit with the 'Bleacher Creatures' and have a good time and say great things about them ... as long as you have secret service protection with you.

Ceetar
Aug 03 2012 02:20 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:
Real easy to sit with the 'Bleacher Creatures' and have a good time and say great things about them ... as long as you have secret service protection with you.


Is it just me or have the critters made a point this year of having celebrities hang out there?

Frayed Knot
Aug 03 2012 02:34 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Ceetar wrote:
Real easy to sit with the 'Bleacher Creatures' and have a good time and say great things about them ... as long as you have secret service protection with you.


Is it just me or have the critters made a point this year of having celebrities hang out there?



Beats me, I've been too blinded this year by the fact that the maybe twenty different guest columns in the Sunday NY Times Sports Section have all started with some variation of: "As a life-long Yankee fan, ...".
What then proceeds from there has been an assortment of self-reverential pieces on what that means to that particular author, or about how it reminds them of their grandma, or even, and these were the best, about how tough it was to maintain that fandom during the Horace Clarke years or during that gaping chasm of the late '80s/early '90s and how all the winning since is somehow not as much fun.
Most of those were earlier in the spring/summer but it seems like they were printing them at about a one-per-week clip there for a while.


From what I've heard, the conduct of the BCs isn't quite as criminal or quite as tolerated in the new stadium as it was compared to what went on in the old. That could all just be pr bullshit though.

Ceetar
Aug 03 2012 02:46 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Frayed Knot wrote:


From what I've heard, the conduct of the BCs isn't quite as criminal or quite as tolerated in the new stadium as it was compared to what went on in the old. That could all just be pr bullshit though.



Well the old place was a separate entrance and private area and all so it probably lent itself to a more "This is the be stupid area" than the new place where it's all connected.

Ceetar
Aug 03 2012 06:38 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

chopper to the pitcher. Millwood deflects it into the outfielder for a double. YES announcers call it "good instincts"

Frayed Knot
Aug 19 2012 08:49 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Frayed Knot on 7/23 wrote:
[Ichiro] has 4 HRs to date this year and I'll bet he trumps that in his first 15 home games with the MFYs.


Following his 2 HRs tonight, he only made it to 3 HRs in his first 16 home games.

metirish
Aug 20 2012 04:32 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

asshole


AUG 20, 2012 6:15 PM 616 1 Share

Yankees Pitcher Michael Pineda Arrested On DUI Charges
Jack Dickey

Yankees pitcher Michael Pineda was arrested on suspicion of DUI in Tampa at 2:35 a.m. today. Police say he had a .128 blood alcohol content.

Pineda, the ex-Mariner and would-be crown jewel of Brian Cashman's pitching-rich offseason haul, tore his labrum in March and hasn't pitched since.


Ceetar
Aug 20 2012 04:54 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

metirish wrote:

Yankees pitcher Michael Pineda was arrested on suspicion of DUI in Tampa at 2:35 a.m. today. Police say he had a .128 blood alcohol content.



Right, but what was his Testosterone Blood Content?

The Second Spitter
Aug 20 2012 06:16 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

The Antichrist is still active..

Fman99
Aug 20 2012 07:27 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Mild homophobia aside, the MLBAM-going-rogue act definitely had its moments.

Just a note: though the handicapped are allowed to enjoy Padres games at Petco Park, their presence is STRONGLY DISCOURAGED.

Agreed. Comedy gold, there.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 21 2012 06:20 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

The Second Spitter wrote:
The Antichrist is still active..


I wonder whether the fucker's taking an outside shot at postponing his HoF ballot introduction. Actually, I outright suspect it.

SteveJRogers
Aug 21 2012 06:22 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
The Second Spitter wrote:
The Antichrist is still active..


I wonder whether the fucker's taking an outside shot at postponing his HoF ballot introduction. Actually, I outright suspect it.


That rule about Professional baseball is no longer in affect for HOF ballot inclusion, it's just MLB.

Ceetar
Aug 21 2012 06:34 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

SteveJRogers wrote:
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
The Second Spitter wrote:
The Antichrist is still active..


I wonder whether the fucker's taking an outside shot at postponing his HoF ballot introduction. Actually, I outright suspect it.


That rule about Professional baseball is no longer in affect for HOF ballot inclusion, it's just MLB.


yeah, Henderson played some afterwards right?

This is going to be a fun class coming up, full of drama and moralizing and name calling.

Frayed Knot
Aug 21 2012 06:39 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

SteveJRogers wrote:
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
The Second Spitter wrote:
The Antichrist is still active..


I wonder whether the fucker's taking an outside shot at postponing his HoF ballot introduction. Actually, I outright suspect it.


That rule about Professional baseball is no longer in affect for HOF ballot inclusion, it's just MLB.


But if he can parlay this re-introduction to competitive ball into a (however brief) stint somewhere in the majors (Houston?) that would 're-set the clock' for his HoF vote for another five years and would allow the whole steroids issue to be argued with other guys' names involved rather than his. It would also 'de-link' his name with Barry's on next year's ballot ("of all the dramatic things ...")

metirish
Aug 21 2012 06:41 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Wow, that seems totally plausible , what a dick he is.

Edgy MD
Aug 21 2012 06:46 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Why else would he develop a sudden interest in August?

metirish
Aug 21 2012 06:49 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Yes, aged 50 no less........wanker

Ceetar
Aug 21 2012 06:58 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

people said the same thing about McGuire's hitting coach role last year and Tony La Russa was going to pinch hit him in September.


But I think McGuire is a perfect example of why it's stupid. they're not going to all leave him off so that he drops off the ballot. the worst that happens is he gets kicked forward to next year.

of course, his chemically-enhanced ego may not permit him to accept a non first-ballot election to the Hall.

if he's successful at 50 aren't rumors about PEDs just going to have more fuel? Is there a drug testing policy in this league?

Edgy MD
Aug 21 2012 07:08 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Ceetar wrote:
people said the same thing about McGuire's hitting coach role last year and Tony La Russa was going to pinch hit him in September.

I don't remember anyone saying that here.

Ceetar
Aug 21 2012 07:11 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

also unrelated, Jeter apparently has had a cough for two months but refuses to talk about it.

And this is magically okay or something. Oh, i'm fine, it's just a cough. I'm not going to talk about it. go away.


Edgy DC wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
people said the same thing about McGuire's hitting coach role last year and Tony La Russa was going to pinch hit him in September.

I don't remember anyone saying that here.


no, maybe not. But the sentiment was out there. I was merely noting the somewhat similar situation.

Edgy MD
Aug 21 2012 07:19 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Playing independent minor league ball your late forties and coaching in the bigs in your late forties aren't that similar.

Ceetar
Aug 21 2012 07:20 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Playing independent minor league ball your late forties and coaching in the bigs in your late forties aren't that similar.


the concept of getting a cameo in MLB to delay/extend your Hall of Fame eligibility is eerily similar though.

Frayed Knot
Aug 21 2012 08:48 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

The reason behind delaying one's HoF eligibility would be based on the hope that maybe five years down the road public sentiment on this topic will be less harsh than it is today. Attitudes change over time so those writers, ex-players, and other keepers of the flame who actually lived through the era and aren't viewing the pre-roids time as some bastion of purity may start to come around to the idea that total banishment of anyone who ever used, thought about using, or knew about others who used is maybe a bit over the top.

McGwire was a different boat IMO. The idea behind his return was more just to get him back in the game and in uniform to rehab his image somewhat. Clemens would have to save a few bus-loads of nuns and orphans before he could even get his image to approach the level that McGwire's started at, and ditto for Bonds who recently floated the idea of naming himself SFG hitting coach at some unspecified future date.

Frayed Knot
Aug 21 2012 10:09 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

In other MFY news, Jeter had four more hits last night (and is hitting .400 in August) giving him 3,255 for his career.
That tied him with Eddie Murray for 12th place overall although that's not really the significant part. The significant part is that his next hit puts him exactly 1,000 hits behind Pete Rose's record of 4,256

Jeter turned 38 not quite 2 months ago. Rose's total at the exact same age as Jeter is now? 3,242. IOW, Rose, starting at the same point, stroked another 1,014 hits before hanging them up, meaning that if Jeter matches the same pace he'll have the record by 13 hits -- although I don't guess we'll be doing a countdown for this one.

Of course the trick is to staying around as long as Pete did (45 yrs + 5 months) and managing yourself helps out in those cases.
- Rose turned 38 at the beginning of the 1979 season (Jeter in the middle of this one) a year which turned out to be his final 200-hit campaign.
- After that he dropped to 185; then had the strike year in '81 where his 140 hits still managed to lead the league.
- He had two more full seasons at ages 41 & 42: 162 games/720 PAs for the '82 Phils and 172 hits, then slumped to 121 hits in 151 games/555 PAs
- Then both the games and hits dropped pretty drastically: 121 games/421 PAs/107 hits (.286 BA) in a year split between Montreal and back in Cincy, followed by another season of 107 hits (.264 BA), before his final 52-hit/272 PA season (.219) in 1986 at age 45

In August of '86 Rose's Reds faced the Giants in a 4-game series in Cincy and Rose went 8 for 11 (7 singles) with 4 RBI and raising his average 25 points. (it was nice of his manager to hit him 2nd in the order despite the .204 BA)
But then he went 0-for-10 against the Padres in the following series and never batted again.
Last hit: single to LF against Greg Minton
Last AB: a bases-empty strike out in the 8th inning facing Goose Gossage. I don't remember if it was known at the time that that would be his final AB.



Side note found in research: Pete Rose Jr played 21 seasons in both affiliated and unaffiliated minor league baseball and amassed 1,877 hits.
He was 2 for 14 as a major leaguer.

Vic Sage
Aug 21 2012 10:52 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

i have no illusions about Jeter being denied 1st ballot HOF status 5 years after he retires (unless some damning personal facts come to light).
But is he an all-time great, or more of an accumulator who benefited from the luck of hitting atop a high scoring (high priced) lineup for a very long time, without loss of skills or significant time to injury?

What are the arguments against, if any? Just his deficit in the Black Ink test, and his overrated defense?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 21 2012 11:24 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Playing independent minor league ball your late forties and coaching in the bigs in your late forties aren't that similar.


Also, the guys are different. There's McGwire-and-baseball dependency... and then there's Clemens-and-baseball self-delusional dependency.

Ceetar
Aug 21 2012 11:56 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Vic Sage wrote:
i have no illusions about Jeter being denied 1st ballot HOF status 5 years after he retires (unless some damning personal facts come to light).
But is he an all-time great, or more of an accumulator who benefited from the luck of hitting atop a high scoring (high priced) lineup for a very long time, without loss of skills or significant time to injury?

What are the arguments against, if any? Just his deficit in the Black Ink test, and his overrated defense?


None that would keep him out. (although he certainly won't be unanimous, like I know someone somewhere suggested) But no MVP (though maybe deserved one?), never the best SS in the league (or really his own team..although that never seems to count for much. He gets credit for still playing SS even though clearly the right baseball move was probably to move him. But even the logical fallacies in his game are often glossed over and the narrative grants him so many intangible points. The media loves him because the things he's bad at (like the defense) aren't that clearly measurable and he gives them just enough nothing to placate their columns so that when he runs away and avoids questions they have enough that they don't speculate.

Edgy MD
Aug 21 2012 01:31 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Two prizes left for him to steal:
[list:2omb5a7t][*:2omb5a7t]Pete Rose's hit crown.[/*:m:2omb5a7t]
[*:2omb5a7t]Tom Seaver's HOF vote percentage crown.[/*:m:2omb5a7t][/list:u:2omb5a7t]

seawolf17
Aug 21 2012 01:48 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Two prizes left for him to steal:
[list][*]Pete Rose's hit crown.[/*:m]
[*]Tom Seaver's HOF vote percentage crown.[/*:m][/list:u]

No and no.

Pete Rose Jr played 21 seasons in both affiliated and unaffiliated minor league baseball and amassed 1,877 hits.
He was 2 for 14 as a major leaguer.

Li'l Pete was a Duck for a while. Dumbass behind us one night: "Hey, that Pete Rose Junior over there? That's Pete Rose's son."

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 21 2012 02:11 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

seawolf17 wrote:
Two prizes left for him to steal:
[list][*]Pete Rose's hit crown.[/*:m]
[*]Tom Seaver's HOF vote percentage crown.[/*:m][/list:u]



These things are connected in that some voters submitted blank ballots in protest against Pete Rose's banishment thus denying Seaver an even higher percentage of the HOF vote.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 22 2012 03:46 PM
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Apparently, I'm not the only one to see a likely HoF ballot-eligibility-end-run here.

"So, I think it's hard to evaluate," Luhnow said. "We did send a scout yesterday to look at him, since it's right there. There's a bunch of guys that have been in that league that have big-league time and Roger is still associated with our organization."

.... The Astros are just hopeless enough—and Jim Crane is just enough of a jock-sniffer—to help Clemens with his plan.

Frayed Knot
Aug 22 2012 05:18 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Two prizes left for him to steal:
[list][*]Pete Rose's hit crown.[/*:m]
[*]Tom Seaver's HOF vote percentage crown.[/*:m][/list:u]



These things are connected in that some voters submitted blank ballots in protest against Pete Rose's banishment thus denying Seaver an even higher percentage of the HOF vote.


Yeah, Seaver received five 'No' (blank) votes and I recall at least one writer admitting to submitting a totally blank ballot to protest the exclusion of Rose from consideration.
The other four are, I suppose, subject to speculation although there always seemed to be several in those days who would 'proudly' proclaim to never casting a 'Yes' vote for any first-timer, often based on the idiotic logic that if DiMaggio didn't get in on the first ballot then no one should.

That the Rose issue won't be there for Jeter's vote and that the no-first-timer mindset seems to be going away (not to mention the widespread Jeter-love among media-types) both add to the idea that Jeter could very well surpass Seaver's vote pct (total votes casts vary per year).

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 22 2012 08:38 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

VENTURA 2012
MFY's swept on the South side

Ceetar
Aug 22 2012 09:33 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

the Yankees Ivan Nova 'got hurt' on his last pitch of the game the other night. So they're going to DL him. awfully convenient.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 23 2012 08:07 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Watch Joe Girardi look like a rookie manager taken to school by a wiley vet:

[url]http://waswatching.com/2012/08/23/girardi-to-heckler-shut-up/

Frayed Knot
Aug 23 2012 09:18 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
VENTURA 2012
MFY's swept on the South side


The only thing that's salvaged this week so far.
Yanx had a 10-game lead in late July. Now it's down to 3.

Ceetar
Aug 23 2012 09:30 AM
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And the first two non-playoff teams are only 3.5 and 4 behind for the WC.

Edgy MD
Aug 23 2012 09:41 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Only wish some of that water that spilled out of the Yankee bucket ended up in our'n.

Frayed Knot
Aug 23 2012 08:03 PM
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Rays win v Oakland slices the lead to 2-1/2 on Yanx off day.

John New (Ivan Nova) to DL


btw, the Rays & As are playing a three-game series which started today. Series will be Thurs, Fri + Sat but both are off Sunday.
I assume that's got something to do with the Repub convention.

Frayed Knot
Aug 24 2012 07:17 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Back to the whole recent Yanquis/steroids connection thing for a minute.

Skip Bayless, the former Dallas-area writer who's been an ESPN talking head for years now, is apparently making "news".

Speaking on [ESPN show] "First Take" on Wednesday morning, Bayless said, "I am shocked by what I'm seeing from Derek Jeter right now. They all said he was washed up. All of a sudden, this man has turned 38 years of age in June and already he has more hits than he had last year. ... I'm seeing a whole new guy this year from last year ... Are you kidding me? You would have to have your head in the sand or your head somewhere else not to at least wonder, 'How is he doing this?' "



Now, make no mistake about it, Bayless is nothing more than a professional side-show clown and the show/role he's on is essentially a 'look how outrageous I can be' yap-fest which employs the worst aspects of the tired, sports-oriented point/counter-point format. Add in the fact that he's usually paired with the equally horrid (and, not-coincidentally, an MFY/Jeter suck-up) Steven A. Smith certainly raises the possibility (more likely the probability) that Bayless's "rant" was designed specifically so Smith had a ready-made counter-rant delivered to him on a platter.

But the more interesting part of the story is the backlash it's producing. I mean, sure, producing a backlash was the whole purpose of airing the piece in the first place, but the reaction naturally falls on the 'how can he say this about Jeter'/anti-Bayless side of the scale. And again, pointing out that Bayless is an idiot and that he has no proof other than speculation is hardly necessary here. But if one were to replace the name 'Jeter' with anyone else in the same age/performance/surge situation and it becomes exactly what media types should be doing with this topic and exactly what they most recently - and retroactively - scolded baseball and the public for NOT doing in the wake of the Melky & Bartolo Colon situations.

The problem, in the end, is not what Bayless said but that Bayless being the first (and probably only) one to say it thus far sullies the ground for a legitimate someone to even wade into the whole topic.

Edgy MD
Aug 24 2012 07:25 AM
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Can one of these reporters actually dig for facts rather than just speculate? Lord knows, there are enough of them.

Leave the idle and baseless speculations to the rest of us.

Ceetar
Aug 24 2012 07:37 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Edgy DC wrote:
Can one of these reporters actually dig for facts rather than just speculate? Lord knows, there are enough of them.

Leave the idle and baseless speculations to the rest of us.


if you mean Bayless, I don't think he's a reporter, he's a ESPN 'be idle and baseless' guy.

What Murray Chass has said isn't any more idle or baseless. maybe less, considering it wasn't based on a statistical observation but a appearance one. But could that keep Mike from the first ballot? Could this keep Jeter from being left off by 5-6 so as to preserve Seaver's percentage?

Edgy MD
Aug 24 2012 07:42 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Do I mean Bayless? Do I mean Chass?

I mean one of these reporters. Any of them. They missed steroids last time. They're missing HGH this time. Like so much of latter-day reporting, it's opinion-rich and fact-poor.

Anybody sit through 11 seconds of a UFC bout? It's hard not to imagine that these guys aren't on just about everything. Can somebody please inquire?

Frayed Knot
Sep 02 2012 03:14 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Yanx lose two of three to Baltimore at home - and were a bit lucky to get the one they did.
In all they scored just 8 runs in the whole series on only 15 hits. Naturally half the runs came via HRs.
The Saturday game was the killer in that the Yanx, down by two in the 8th, were handed three runs via Walk - Walk - Error with 2 outs and the bases-loaded.

And this series is going to really drive Yanx fans crazy. In my limited FAN listening lately what I've heard has been an endless stream of YLDBs complaining about, of all things, that their teams hits too many HRs. It seems to me that they've always been a sensitive bunch about that topic because it interferes with the fantasy about how their team is actually a scrappy, underdog crew that just happens to be disguised in a $200,000,000/year costume.
So the complaints about how they hate the make-up of this lineup of theirs and are calling for more bunting and more hitting behind the runner (as if they're willing to adopt that strategy as a replacement for all the runs they've scored this year) -all egged on by the fact that most of the hosts blindly agree with them.
And it's tough for them to blame the injuries since the presence of Teixeira and (especially) ARod were seen as part of the problem rather than the solution.


O's now 2 back and the Rays 3.5
And who do the Yanx have coming up? 3 at the Rays, then 4 more with Baltimore, then (following 3 with the Sawx) the Rays again.

Should be a fun two weeks.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 02 2012 04:25 PM
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With teams like the Mets, Braves, and Red Sox showing us the possibilities of monumental collapse in recent seasons, wouldn't it be great if the Yankees followed suit this September? I'd love to see them lose the 2nd Wild Card spot on the last day of the season or better yet behind and struggling to gain ground with a week to go.

Mind you, I fully expect that the Yankees will be hoisting the trophy for Championship 28 this October, but it's nice to daydream.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 02 2012 04:41 PM
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I knew the minute Selig announced there'd be an extra WC team that the MFYs would be one.

It would be Super Awesome if they failed to get that much.

I also am considering a ride on the SHaMwagon.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 02 2012 04:58 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I knew the minute Selig announced there'd be an extra WC team that the MFYs would be one.


Yeah, they'll probably snag the second wild card with like 87 wins and then everyone will roll over for them in the postseason.

Ceetar
Sep 02 2012 06:45 PM
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hard to see. That team is extremely flawed.

of course, all it takes is some pitchers getting hot. for anyone.

Frayed Knot
Sep 02 2012 07:01 PM
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Yanx still have a ways to go before they'll be in danger of missing the playoffs altogether - although a scenario where they need the 2nd WC is certainly in play and their 16-18 record since July 27 says something.

To miss entirely they'll have to get passed in the division by either Baltimore or Tampa, and then at least two of the West loser between Oakland & Texas (and maybe LAA), the Central loser (Detroit/ChiSox) and whichever of Baltimore/Tampa doesn't win that division

Yanx are 2 games behind Texas
1 game ahead of Oakland
2 games ahead of Baltimore
3.5 up on Tampa
3.5 up on Chicago and 4.5 up on Detroit -- both pending Sunday Night's outcome

G-Fafif
Sep 02 2012 10:19 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Tigers won, breathing down MFYs' necks.

Girardi said "we're in control of our own destination." Hope it's a distant third.

Ceetar
Sep 03 2012 06:08 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

G-Fafif wrote:
Tigers won, breathing down MFYs' necks.

Girardi said "we're in control of our own destination." Hope it's a distant third.


yeah, Joe, but so are the Orioles and Rays.

Fman99
Sep 03 2012 07:04 AM
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I think I'd like to see them win one of the wild card spots and then lose the one game play-in. It'd give those rubes in the Bronx an entire winter to gripe about how they got screwed by the system.

I'm curious to know what Mr. Met Puppet Guy thinks about this whole thing.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Sep 03 2012 08:08 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Ate lunch at a Jersey TGIFriday's yesterday, seated about 15 minutes after the Bay grannie. Noticed that there were four TVs hovering in/near our booth, and that two of them were playing the MFY game, with the other two playing a college football game that nobody-- and, doing a scan of the scantly-populated booths, I mean NOBODY-- was tracking. I asked a few times-- the server twice, and a bartender once-- if they would mind changing one of the screens to the Met game; I got sure-not-a-problem-yeah-yeah-yeah-ed by all of 'em. A trying hour-and-a-half later of screaming YoungerPooper, furtive MLB AtBat checks on the phone, and smeared food detritus in/around my face and shirt... there were two TVs playing the MFY game, and two playing that college football game.

As grating as that was from a service standpoint-- leaving aside the specifics, I'd made a reasonable request politely, and been ignored multiple times-- it turned out to be wonderfully satisfying when Hughes gave up the lead to Reynolds and the O's in the sixth or seventh, and the bullpen did their Acostalypse-y thing soon thereafter. As I noticed the falling faces on the families around us-- one member (Dad? Older kid?) of whom, I SWEAR, snickered a little when I asked the server about the Met game-- I started to feel almost full, nourished and smiling fatly like I'd just sucked down the world's best barbecue.

It's gratifying to watch from afar as the Braves threaten to crash out of the playoffs again. It makes my day a little brighter when I find that the Phils have coughed up a ninth-inning lead to fall into fourth. Absent the joy of a Met playoff run, it sticks to my motherfucking ribs and lights up my brain's joyjoy center to overload to watch these fuckers suffer. I kinda hope it always does.

MFS62
Sep 03 2012 11:09 AM
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As my old Army buddies might have said, "The Yankee fans are getting so tight, you couldn't drag a needle out of their ass with a tractor."

Later

Frayed Knot
Sep 03 2012 11:33 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

But ARod's back today so all the problems for Yanx fans are reduced ... or multiplied depending on one's point of view.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 03 2012 09:02 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:

It's gratifying to watch from afar as the Braves threaten to crash out of the playoffs again. It makes my day a little brighter when I find that the Phils have coughed up a ninth-inning lead to fall into fourth. Absent the joy of a Met playoff run, it sticks to my motherfucking ribs and lights up my brain's joyjoy center to overload to watch these fuckers suffer. I kinda hope it always does.


Amen

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 04 2012 08:11 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

MFYs lose!

O's up big.

Ceetar
Sep 04 2012 08:42 PM
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so you think they just slot in Pettitte as the #2 for the playoffs?

what do you mean that type of talk is premature, it's been discussed since June!

G-Fafif
Sep 05 2012 04:19 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

The expansion of the playoffs in 1995 gave the Wild Carding, second-place MFYs an unprecedented in, while the expansion of the playoffs in 1969 presented the Mets with a hurdle no team with the best record in its league ever had to clear.

The 1969 Mets swept the first League Championship Series en route to winning arguably the most iconic world championship in baseball history. The 1995 MFYs built a two games to none lead en route to having their hearts smashed by the instantly beloved 1995 Seattle Mariners.

So now, maybe, the 2012 MFYs, who deserve to fall through about twelve holes in perpetual motion to a place lower than hell -- not just for being the 2012 MFYs but the franchise for which they carry the tradition-laden flag -- will descend from first to second and then second to third yet, for the first time a team can do this, make the playoffs anyway.

Their hearts getting smashed in a one-game playoff would be swell, but a completely MFY-free postseason would be way better.

Just the fact that I'm thinking about this with a month to go is dangerous. Clear the mechanism...

Edgy MD
Sep 05 2012 06:55 AM
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More exposure, scandal, and disgrace would be nice.

Ceetar
Sep 05 2012 07:00 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
More exposure, scandal, and disgrace would be nice.


maybe this Cano being lazy story will gain legs, as they struggle, and people will call for Girardi's head because he "lost the clubhouse".


obviously a completely MFY-free postseason is preferable, but how perfect would it be if they fall into the second spot and desperately call on Pettitte off the DL to make that start, and he's very predictably not ready for prime time and gets shelled, hard.

Fman99
Sep 05 2012 07:57 PM
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My son's douchy YLDB Little League coach on Facebook wrote:
Sitting here watching the Yankee game... Derek Jeter makes yet another spectacular play so I say to my wife "that mans a player" her response is "I bet he is a player and I would play with him" my response "what and give up all this" she says " Yup I sure will" gotta love her honesty lol


Vomit.

themetfairy
Sep 05 2012 08:37 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Get your son off that team NOW!!!

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2012 07:38 AM
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So last night was ARod's 300th HR as a Yankme, more than twice as many as Reggie in less than twice the time, plus he has that all-important ring.
That means they have to retire his number right? I mean, sure he gets booed half the time, but so did Reggie - or has that part been conveniently expunged from the record and from fans' memories now that he's both on their wall of fame and on the payroll?

And once you do it for Alex can you deny such an honor for Teixeira? And once they re-sign Granderson it'll be tough to keep his digits out of Monument Park. And then what about Swisher? Look, the guy invented the post-game pie! Nothing like that had been done before in MLB history. Plus he's so popular with the bleacher bums.

And I haven't even gotten to Sabathia yet.

Ceetar
Sep 08 2012 08:24 AM
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I'm toying with writing a book that takes place 30-50 years in the future. Fiction or not, I'm envisioning a world where the Yankees are no longer held up as some sort of 'better than thou' franchise, but instead are a relic and a laughing stock. They routinely have spring uniforms with letters (or THREE! digits) They were a world-wide laughing stock back in 2035 when one of their fringe invitees, wearing 2A (he fancied himself the 'next' Jeter but was a long shot at best to make the majors.) He hit like crazy in Spring Training and the Yankees suffered injuries to two SS that spring and he ended up making the team and refused to give up the uniform number so he became the first player to ever wear a letter in a regular season game. They called him "The Apartment" and he ended up having a pretty decent career as a backup middle infielder, but the Yankees were teased all season long for the letter thing.

metirish
Sep 08 2012 08:21 PM
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lol.....great game ending double play of the bat of Texeria as the O's hold on to win 5-4, looks like a blown call actually as Texaria dived into first base and the ump got it wrong....delightful.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2012 08:24 PM
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LOLMFY

Swan Swan H
Sep 08 2012 08:25 PM
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It was totally blown - Douchebag Cop got there well before the ball, but the slide didn't help him get the call. I think Kay is about to start crying. He just named Jerry Meals the Orioles player of the game.

metirish
Sep 08 2012 08:29 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
It was totally blown - Douchebag Cop got there well before the ball, but the slide didn't help him get the call. I think Kay is about to start crying. He just named Jerry Meals the Orioles player of the game.



I bet Ken Singleton isn't inching up on his seat right now......probably fell back crying...Christ but they are homers.

Swan Swan H
Sep 08 2012 08:32 PM
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Bases loaded, none out and they hit two weak infield grounders. Fuck 'em.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2012 08:53 PM
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Zackly. Fuck. Them. And fuck Michael Kay. F-U-C-K him.

Frayed Knot
Sep 08 2012 09:11 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Bases loaded, none out and they hit two weak infield grounders. Fuck 'em.


The Yanx continue to specialize in hitting grounders too shitty to be turned into DPs. I know I can't prove that they do it more often than other teams and don't ask me how a team can do that on purpose but I'll go to my grave believing they have a knack for taking full swings and getting shit exactly when needed as if on demand.
Swisher did it the first time and it brought in a run, and then Teixeira did the same thing only he is a bit slower and probably dove himself into a bad call (I still couldn't tell definitively) or else the tying run would have scored.


Meanwhile Nick Markakis got himself a broken hand in the game and is almost certainly out for the rest of the reg season.


And just minutes before the O's/Yanx ended the Rays lost to Texas in extras, one day after winning in extras on a Ben Zobrist walk-off.
Too bad, a Tampa win tonight would have really tightened things up.

metirish
Sep 08 2012 09:27 PM
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It's getting better


Now it's the media's fault RT @AndrewMarchand Postgame Chaos: Girardi got into it with Joel Sherman of the Post, too. They were separated at one point.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 08 2012 09:33 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

metirish wrote:
It's getting better


Now it's the media's fault RT @AndrewMarchand Postgame Chaos: Girardi got into it with Joel Sherman of the Post, too. They were separated at one point.

Lololol

Ceetar
Sep 08 2012 11:14 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Zackly. Fuck. Them. And fuck Michael Kay. F-U-C-K him.


who do I look like, Jodi Applegate?

The Second Spitter
Sep 08 2012 11:54 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

Meanwhile Nick Markakis got himself a broken hand in the game and is almost certainly out for the rest of the reg season.

And just minutes before the O's/Yanx ended the Rays lost to Texas in extras, one day after winning in extras on a Ben Zobrist walk-off.
Too bad, a Tampa win tonight would have really tightened things up.


Shame. Six games against Tampa, including the upcoming series is likely to define the O's season.

Didn't get to see a replay of the double play as the feed ended immediately. Was Forrest in fact out?

Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2012 07:10 AM
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Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 09 2012 07:20 AM

Certainly looked to be safe, but he got there via a head-first slide which, as we're often told, almost certainly slowed him down, and I never did see a definitive replay (maybe there isn't one). Plus I think the head-first thing makes it tougher for the ump to call that play.

Either way, Teixeira was crying about it in the locker room, about that call and about the called strike-3 he looked at in the 8th inning even throwing in a; "while I'm out there playing on one leg", for good measure. He then went on to imply (if not outright state) that the umps were maybe just looking to go home and didn't want to see the Yanx come back and have to work an extended game.
Can't be any other reason why a call would go against the Yanx otherwise, right?

Joe McGrane on MLBN jumped all over him for that, talking about how he understands the frustration but also about how many calls he's seen go the Yanx way over the years -- definitely becoming the most direct I've ever heard from a paid commentator (as opposed to from a biased fan) about the Yanx getting more than their share of calls, particularly at home games.

Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2012 07:14 AM
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Upon further review ...

Swan Swan H
Sep 09 2012 07:25 AM
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To reiterate, this cocksucker is making $23 million and he can't get the ball out of the infield. Fuck him with a broken bottle.

Ceetar
Sep 09 2012 07:39 AM
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Wow, the Yankees really are embarrassing and sore losers huh?

smg58
Sep 09 2012 07:50 AM
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Not only should he have never slid, but the right hand that the ump had the clearest view of never touched the bag. The left still beat the throw, but Texeira ought to answer for doing some fundamental things wrong in a very critical situation. The ump should never have been given the opportunity to get the play wrong.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Sep 09 2012 09:19 AM
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smg58 wrote:
Not only should he have never slid, but the right hand that the ump had the clearest view of never touched the bag. The left still beat the throw, but Texeira ought to answer for doing some fundamental things wrong in a very critical situation. The ump should never have been given the opportunity to get the play wrong.


I'm all about Team Fuck-The-MFYs... but we're kind of talking around the thing now, aren't we?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Sep 09 2012 02:37 PM
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But then, in the middle of the ninth inning, with the MFYs leading 11-3, Michael Kay and Ken Singleton (I think) are having a five-minute-long (and counting) conversation bitching about the Baltimore Sun's and the Orioles broadcast's coverage of last night's game-ending call.

Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2012 05:09 PM
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I guess the biases at MASN & The Baltimore Sun are too much for Kay et al who prefer the unvarnished truth that one gets from YES as well as from the NY Daily News, a paper that has fostered a commercial and symbiotic relationship with the team they supposedly cover so deep and for so long now that any pretense of objective journalism left the stall about 20 years ago.

Ceetar
Sep 09 2012 06:33 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I guess the biases at MASN & The Baltimore Sun are too much for Kay et al who prefer the unvarnished truth that one gets from YES as well as from the NY Daily News, a paper that has fostered a commercial and symbiotic relationship with the team they supposedly cover so deep and for so long now that any pretense of objective journalism left the stall about 20 years ago.


20 years ago? wasn't the Daily News pretty much put on the map by the coverage of Ruth and the Yankees?

Frayed Knot
Sep 09 2012 06:49 PM
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The DN has been around for a long time covering the Yanx, but it was only relatively recently (probably less than 20 years) that they became essentially a full-time partner with the club, doing things such as hiring Torre as their spokesman when he was also supposedly their biggest target to cover; having the DN pay for one of their writers to be a "guest" in the radio booth for an inning each game; running promotions that are designed to boost both the team and the paper as if there's no line between the two, etc.

This stuff happens with other media outlets and other teams, but few are as long lasting and cozy as this one.

Fman99
Sep 09 2012 07:00 PM
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metirish wrote:
lol.....great game ending double play of the bat of Texeria as the O's hold on to win 5-4, looks like a blown call actually as Texaria dived into first base and the ump got it wrong....delightful.


Happened to be watching this live when it happened. SO MUCH JOY. Hey, even my kid's superdouchy YLDB coach tells his players all the time not to slide into first.

Edgy MD
Sep 10 2012 03:24 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Teixiera out 10-14 days.

Girardi vs. Sherman. You can't lose in a matchup like that.

Fman99
Sep 13 2012 07:42 PM
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Willie Mays Refers to Derek Jeter as "Captain Douche"

Former Met (and Giant) legend contends Yankee shortstop is an 'overrated hack with womanly hips and a sissy swing'

By Adam Rubin
ESPN News
....

On a night where Derek Jeter tied Willie Mays for tenth all time on the hit list with 3,283 hits, and shameless YES and radio announcers sang his praises to a mostly tone deaf audience, the man he tied on that list was asked at a memorabilia show what he thought of the Bronx Bummer's accomplishment.

"Look, all I'm saying is I got that many hits too. Plus, you know, way more of mine were home runs and doubles and triples than him," said Mays. "I understand, in the Bronx, Captain Douche is a big shot and all, but he didn't have to freeze his ass off at the 'Stick like I did."

Jeter, seen by this reporter drinking a vinegar and water at a local juice bar, had no comment.

MFS62
Sep 14 2012 07:49 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Toss Jackie Robinson's memorabilia out of the rotunda and replace it with Willie Mays stuff ... NOW!

Later

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 14 2012 07:57 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Fman99 wrote:

Willie Mays Refers to Derek Jeter as "Captain Douche"

Former Met (and Giant) legend contends Yankee shortstop is an 'overrated hack with womanly hips and a sissy swing'

By Adam Rubin
ESPN News
....

On a night where Derek Jeter tied Willie Mays for tenth all time on the hit list with 3,283 hits, and shameless YES and radio announcers sang his praises to a mostly tone deaf audience, the man he tied on that list was asked at a memorabilia show what he thought of the Bronx Bummer's accomplishment.

"Look, all I'm saying is I got that many hits too. Plus, you know, way more of mine were home runs and doubles and triples than him," said Mays. "I understand, in the Bronx, Captain Douche is a big shot and all, but he didn't have to freeze his ass off at the 'Stick like I did."

Jeter, seen by this reporter drinking a vinegar and water at a local juice bar, had no comment.



I wish this was real. On the other hand it probably would bump all the news from Libya & Egypt off the air if Saint Jeter were dissed in this way.

Swan Swan H
Sep 14 2012 08:34 PM
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One of the many things I despise about the DH is its use as a semi-DL for aging players with minor injuries. Well, tonight Jeter is the DH to rest his injured ankle, and Eduardo Nunez just gakked a routine grounder to give the Rays a big insurance run.

We'll never know whether Jeter would be playing SS were it not for the DH, or if he would have made the play that Nunez did not, but with the decision to 'sit' him at DH Girardi got to watch Nunez's buffoonery with Jeter just watching, and you can be sure that every Yankee fan knows Jeets makes that play.

And speaking of Cap'n Crotch, he just waved at a slider in the on-deck circle to end the game. Thuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh Yankees lose 6-4.

Frayed Knot
Sep 14 2012 08:53 PM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

One of the many things I despise about the DH is its use as a semi-DL for aging players with minor injuries. Well, tonight Jeter is the DH to rest his injured ankle, and Eduardo Nunez just gakked a routine grounder to give the Rays a big insurance run.

We'll never know whether Jeter would be playing SS were it not for the DH, or if he would have made the play that Nunez did not, but with the decision to 'sit' him at DH Girardi got to watch Nunez's buffoonery with Jeter just watching, and you can be sure that every Yankee fan knows Jeets makes that play.



When Nunez came up swinging the bat last year some of the MFY mouthpieces were naming him the 'heir apparent' for Jeter at SS - but he's a truly atrocious fielder and spent most of this year in the minors on account of it even with ARod on the shelf for a lengthy run in mid-year while the Yanx traded for Jayson Nix instead.

But once they brought him up with the September call-ups he's been getting time in the field semi-regularly because Girardi feels the need to rest the "veterans" down the stretch even when they're not nursing an injury. As a result, Jeter, ARod or Cano have served as the DH in each of their last 13 games.
Do that often enough, and it's not a question of IF you're going to get burned by it but when. I just consider it icing on the cake that it happened tonight during the 9th inning of a close and important game.

Frayed Knot
Sep 15 2012 06:37 AM
Re: The Enemy Uptown: The 2012 Yankee Thread

Funny how on the same day and in the same game that Jeter passes Mays to get to 10th on the all-time career hits list prompting mentions and plaudits that stop just short of a Congressional vote for a new national holiday, Alex Rodriguez passes Gehrig to takeover 9th place on the all-time career runs scored list and is greeted by the sound of .... crickets.




btw, Jeter's 'record breaking' hit hit the 2nd baseman right in the glove.

Edgy MD
Sep 15 2012 08:17 AM
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of course it did.

And if the half-millionth error hits him right in the glove, it'll be scored a hit.

G-Fafif
Sep 17 2012 04:08 PM
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Charles Pierce explores MFYS III for the first time on Grantland and gets it immediately.

...George Steinbrenner, who glowers in from a billboard in center field that makes him look for all the world like a movie that's coming out this Christmas.

Frayed Knot
Sep 17 2012 04:39 PM
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Speaking of MFY articles, I realize that writers don't often get to choose their own headlines so we probably shouldn't crush good ol' Bryan Hoch too much for this one -- but did someone really think that Through injury, Jeter's singular focus is winning was a unique or fresh angle just crying out to be covered?

G-Fafif
Sep 17 2012 04:44 PM
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Wait, let me get this straight: Derek Jeter has an edge? Huh...learn something new every day!

Swan Swan H
Sep 17 2012 06:28 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Charles Pierce explores MFYS III for the first time on Grantland and gets it immediately.

...George Steinbrenner, who glowers in from a billboard in center field that makes him look for all the world like a movie that's coming out this Christmas.


Charlie Pierce is probably my favorite journalist, and I love his knack for getting to the core of everything he writes about. And, he kills on Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me.

bmfc1
Sep 23 2012 09:39 AM
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It's not cool to be exuberant, unless you're an MFY:

Eric Chavez stared into the visitor’s dugout from first base as each devastating dagger cleared the left field fence.

It was bad enough the A’s were delivering what Chavez, at that moment, assumed was a devastating Yankees loss. But after each of three 13th-inning homers that turned 5-5 to an 9-5 Oakland advantage, Chavez said, most of those on the A’s bench participated in what he described as “an orchestrated clapping, chanting” celebration that he had a great view of from first — a view that made him angrier and angrier with each long ball.

Chavez told The Post he considered the acts “high school-ish” and “pretty unprofessional.”

“I thought it was distasteful,” Chavez said. “That’s not cool. That’s not how you play the game. I am all for having fun, but that crossed the line. It is all about being humble.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/ ... wCE2f2lloN

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2012 10:48 AM
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The idea that clapping and celebrating is childish and unprofessional is childish and unprofessional.

As far as I'm concerned, if it happens in the dugout, it's fine. Unless you're yelling vulgarities out of the dugout, you're sharing joy with your teammates and keeping it in the family. Nobody is being "shown up."

Get a grip, Chavez. You were an Athletic once. The whole free word celebrates when people score against the Yankees.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Sep 25 2012 01:11 PM
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This is really, really unsurprising. It's also all too common in the restaurant business these days.

The servers claim that the 20-percent service charge that Yankee Stadium patrons paid went straight into the pockets of the Yankees and Legends Hospitality LLC, a corporation created to run the stadium's concessions. Legends Hospitality was formed by the Yankees, the Dallas Cowboys and Goldman Sachs...

Even so, before we go full-on Occupy Yankee Stadium, let's remember: This particular service charge did have its purpose. Patrons were indeed paying for a "service," and if the actual service providers didn't have a deal that stipulated they received that "charge," well, is that the Yankees' fault? Or responsibility?
Yes, says the lawsuit, which charges that state law specifically speaks to this question. The waiters note that from 2009 to 2011, the "service charge" was added to customers' bills as a mandatory fee, and a line on the menu noted that "additional gratuity is at your discretion." (The service charge was discontinued after the 2011 season.)

Edgy MD
Sep 25 2012 01:20 PM
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Patrons were indeed paying for a "service," and if the actual service providers didn't have a deal that stipulated they received that "charge," well, is that the Yankees' fault? Or responsibility?


"Yes." Because "patrons" were deceived into thinking the "fee" was for their servers.

I can picture this going to court and the hearing just being a festival of lawyers making quotey-quotey fingers.

metsguyinmichigan
Sep 25 2012 01:35 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Patrons were indeed paying for a "service," and if the actual service providers didn't have a deal that stipulated they received that "charge," well, is that the Yankees' fault? Or responsibility?


"Yes." Because "patrons" were deceived into thinking the "fee" was for their servers.

I can picture this going to court and the hearing just being a festival of lawyers making quotey-quotey fingers.



Wait a second, customers are asked to pay stupid-expensive prices for food, and then the MFYs tack on a 20 percent surcharge for the privilege of paying stupid-expensive prices for their food -- and that money isn't a tip?

And other restaurants are doing that, too?

It sounds like the personal seat license scam the football teams get away with.

Ceetar
Oct 05 2012 08:43 PM
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I know the game's not until Wednesday..but shouldn't the Yankees have sold out their first playoff home game by now?

and it's not like..couple of singular seats floating around..there are huge swaths of empty seats. 6-7 rows in the bleachers (well, $78 for a bleacher seat?) and a bunch of $40 'foul pole in the way' seats in the uppers in LF. The entire 406 section appears to be unsold, for $68. the Malibu Rooftop Deck..whatever that means.

Edgy MD
Dec 26 2012 09:25 AM
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Andruw Jones graduates from batter to batterer.

SteveJRogers
Dec 26 2012 10:08 AM
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MFY Fans all over rejoice that for once a former MFY is not indicated as such in one of these stories!

Yes I know Jones is identifiable as a Brave more so than the other franchises he has played for, but generally more times than not articles will point out the MFYness of the perp.

For example, when Jeff Reardon was having his episodes articles actually said "Former Yankee pitcher Jeff Reardon."

Edgy MD
Dec 26 2012 10:13 AM
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Well, he was a Yankee most recently.

Details are starting to emerge, including reports (don't know how authentic) of him allegedly dragging his wife downstairs early Christmas morning. Shmitt.