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Confessions of a Met

bmfc1 Jan 09 2012 06:29 AM

New York magazine has a "workplace confidential" edition--anonymous "confessions" written by an employee. One of the articles is written by a Met. http://nymag.com/news/features/insiders/mets-2012/ Who do you think it is? The writer mentions Wright so unless Wright did this to make us think it's not him, then it's not Wright. Dickey is a logical choice.

Fman99 Jan 09 2012 06:33 AM Re: Confessions of a Met

Call me when Cleon Jones writes his confessional.

metirish Jan 09 2012 06:38 AM Re: Confessions of a Met

Does it necessarily have to be a player? Dickey is logical but then he opens one paragraph with " It hurts me to say this, because I’ve always liked Fred Wilpon", to me that sounds like a long time employee.

Ceetar Jan 09 2012 06:47 AM Re: Confessions of a Met

It's definitely not a hitter, because a hitter wouldn't cite impending last place or being unable to hit Strasburg. No way is it a player. It's written in a way that suggests the guys been here at least a little bit, and expects to be here and doesn't mention wanting to be elsewhere or anything like that. A non-player would probably have more interaction with Fred as well. I mean, how much do you think Daniel Murphy interacts with him? Bullpen coach or something? seems to take the Mookie thing personally.

Edgy MD Jan 09 2012 07:08 AM Re: Confessions of a Met

I really turn the hearing aid off when folks start talking about big markets and small markets. The Mets had spent at the top of the league for over a decade and everyone was miserable.

Gwreck Jan 09 2012 07:09 AM Re: Confessions of a Met

The Mets had spent at the top of the league for over a decade and everyone was miserable. Untrue.

Edgy MD Jan 09 2012 07:10 AM Re: Confessions of a Met

You're right. Everyone wasn't miserable. Most remained contemptuous of the owners.

metsguyinmichigan Jan 09 2012 08:22 AM Re: Confessions of a Met

. I like Derek Jeter, I think he’s a class act. I read some of the good things and the bad things that were said when he was renegotiating, but he ended up having a pretty decent year. Is he overpaid now? Sure, but he earned it when he was younger. The Yankees took care of him, the way you’re supposed to. The BS alarm just went off!

Gwreck Jan 09 2012 10:22 AM Re: Confessions of a Met

Edgy DC wrote: You're right. Everyone wasn't miserable. Most remained contemptuous of the owners. Last decade contained four straight winning seasons from 2005-2008 and the most dominant Mets team since the 1980s for the 2006 (and a good part of the 2007) seasons. Spending money got them results; the problem is that they spent some of it poorly and had bad management. It's obvious (at least to me) that sustained success requires good management and an infusion of cash. At this point, I think the Mets have the former but not the latter.

Edgy MD Jan 09 2012 10:42 AM Re: Confessions of a Met

Which is almost sort of my point too.

HahnSolo Jan 09 2012 11:46 AM Re: Confessions of a Met

Sounds like something Billy Wagner might write.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 09 2012 12:45 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

Ceetar wrote: It's definitely not a hitter, because a hitter wouldn't cite impending last place or being unable to hit Strasburg. He doesn't say "hit;" he says "beat." If it is a player/player-manque, it seems like a guy who thinks in a pitcher-y fashion... or close to pitchers. No way is it a player. It's written in a way that suggests the guys been here at least a little bit, and expects to be here and doesn't mention wanting to be elsewhere or anything like that. A non-player would probably have more interaction with Fred as well. I mean, how much do you think Daniel Murphy interacts with him? Bullpen coach or something? seems to take the Mookie thing personally. Racianello?

Edgy MD Jan 09 2012 12:51 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

My understanding is that Mookie's still on the payroll. Respect for loyalty has to come with a respect for quality.

G-Fafif Jan 09 2012 02:05 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

HoJo.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 09 2012 02:19 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

Hojo's a good guess. He's been around long enough to know Wilpon and Mookie, not to mention how many years Oberkfell was around, and also, jocky enough to give creedence to the silly beliefs. He's also hittingcoachfailureindenialized enough to consider the opponents' superior firepower as the source of his troubles.

G-Fafif Jan 09 2012 02:38 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

My other guess (and that's all it is) would be Darling. Talking about pitching is kind of a flag as is the "people around the game" remark. Darling gets around, particularly recently for TBS during the playoffs. Must have gotten his share of "hey, Ronnie, what's up with the Mets?" A current player probably wouldn't give too much of a damn about Oberkfell or Mookie. These are Darling's and HoJo's pals. The "Look what happened paragraph" sounds a lot like his voice. And the vague, respectful pablum about Jeter sounds about right. But the "used to be equal" thing with the MFYs sounds too tame for Darling (or Keith). They're on the air every night recalling when they ruled New York. Equal would be a comedown for them. Also, Ronnie doesn't necessarily have a personal reason to be pissed off at the Wilpons. HoJo does. No current player has the juice to be making these remarks. I thought maybe Bay, based on general MLB seniority, or even Pelfrey, as something of a free spirit, but if Pelf is saying "who's gonna match up with those other pitchers?" I don't wanna know him. And it's doubtful Bay has formed enough of an attachment to the organization or feels confident enough to throw around charges based on his crappy two years. For the current players, as long as the check clears, I'm thinking they're more or less OK.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 09 2012 03:01 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

I thought Hojo, and only Hojo, as soon as I read the confession earlier this morning.

G-Fafif Jan 09 2012 03:04 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

The whole thing here: It’s really sad to see what the Mets have become: A great franchise, on the biggest stage in sports, is now a laughingstock. Ownership is trying to turn the Mets, a big-market franchise, into a small-market franchise. That’s not just sad, it’s disgusting. You know what I think when I read about the Mets nowadays? We’ve become the Oakland A’s. We’re the Pittsburgh Pirates. Our fans deserve better than that. You can’t possibly build a dynasty when you’re cutting costs left and right. The only way to turn it around is to sell the team. It hurts me to say this, because I’ve always liked Fred Wilpon. I know in his heart how much he wants the Mets to succeed. He’s always lived and died with the team. But there comes a time when it’s no longer possible to be in charge. Fred doesn’t have enough money to make it work. People ask me all the time about the Madoff controversy. How much did the Wilpons know? My heart wants to believe Fred wasn’t in on the scheme, that there’s no way he would take that big of a gamble. The part of me that likes Fred thinks he just got taken advantage of. But there’s a flip side that I can’t ignore: No one makes that much money without knowing where it’s coming from. Either way you look at it, what you have now is a team that feels like it’s bankrupt. Jose Reyes was allowed to walk without even getting an offer? If that’s your plan, you better have someone to replace him with. But the Wilpons don’t. Reyes and David Wright were the heart of that team. Those were the guys the Mets had to build around. But now that Reyes is in Miami, Wright will be traded by the All-Star break. If they’re going to run this like a small-market team, that’s the way it’s going to unfold. If I’m David Wright, I’d want to be gone. That’s because it’s going to be a long summer—you’re talking about last place. It’s a tough division all of a sudden. Who do we have that’s going to beat Stephen Strasburg or Cliff Lee? Who’s going to match up against Tim Hudson or Tommy Hanson? We won’t even be able to beat Mark Buehrle. Everyone in the division has at least one big weapon that we don’t have. I feel bad for the fans because they deserve so much better. But I also feel bad for some of the guys who’ve gotten a raw deal. That’s one thing I can say about the front office—they don’t show a lot of loyalty. Look at what happened to Mookie Wilson: He just got fired. Mookie went to the wall for the organization, but they still canned him. Look at Ken Oberkfell. Guy puts in twelve years with the organization; next thing you know, he’s been fired. No explanation. Those are the little things that tell you what direction a team is going in. People around the game hear about this stuff. They talk about it: “What’s happening to the Mets?” It depresses the hell out of me because I don’t think it’s going to improve until 2014 at the earliest. It’s going to be hard to ask the fans to sit through two brutal seasons, even though there’s some talent coming through the system. What makes it worse is being in the same market as the Yankees. Obviously they have more money, but there used to be a time when the Mets and Yankees were equals. Today, it’s totally lopsided. But that’s not to say I have a problem with the Yankees—I don’t. I’m not jealous of them. They’ve given New York a product their fans can be proud of, like it’s supposed to be. I like Derek Jeter, I think he’s a class act. I read some of the good things and the bad things that were said when he was renegotiating, but he ended up having a pretty decent year. Is he overpaid now? Sure, but he earned it when he was younger. The Yankees took care of him, the way you’re supposed to. I’m waiting for the day when the Mets get back to doing things the right way. In the meantime, it’s a disaster.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 09 2012 03:15 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

G-Fafif wrote: No current player has the juice to be making these remarks. I think that Wright has the clout to be heard, even though the actual comments point to many others as likelier, ahem, deepthroaters.

G-Fafif Jan 09 2012 03:20 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

batmagadanleadoff wrote: G-Fafif wrote: No current player has the juice to be making these remarks. I think that Wright has the clout to be heard, even though the actual comments point to many others as likelier, ahem, deepthroaters. No doubt, though the third-person Wright stuff eliminated him for this particular feature...unless he's Amazin'ly diabolical.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 09 2012 03:27 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

G-Fafif wrote: G-Fafif wrote: No current player has the juice to be making these remarks. I think that Wright has the clout to be heard, even though the actual comments point to many others as likelier, ahem, deepthroaters. No doubt, though the third-person Wright stuff eliminated him for this particular feature...unless he's Amazin'ly diabolical. I also considered Wright playing some misdirection. Whether or not Wright was the anonymous Met, Wright is likely to be the Met most affected by the departures of both Hojo and Reyes, given Wright's close relationship with each of them. OE: I wouldn't be shocked if privately, Wright is livid over Reyes' departure.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 09 2012 03:41 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

No current player has the juice to be making these remarks. I think that Wright has the clout to be heard, even though the actual comments point to many others as likelier, ahem, deepthroaters. No doubt, though the third-person Wright stuff eliminated him for this particular feature...unless he's Amazin'ly diabolical. I also considered Wright playing some misdirection. Whether or not Wright was the anonymous Met, Wright is likely to be the Met most affected by the departures of both Hojo and Reyes, given Wright's close relationship with each of them. OE: I wouldn't be shocked if privately, Wright is livid over Reyes' departure. And still burning over FWilpon's New Yorker comments. Plus, Wright strikes me as the type who would subscribe to New York magazine. NTTAWWT

metirish Jan 09 2012 03:50 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

It's Pete Flynn for fucks sake.

themetfairy Jan 09 2012 04:19 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

It's not just any Met. It's Mr. Met. And typing that with those large hands was not easy in any way, shape or form.

G-Fafif Jan 09 2012 04:20 PM Re: Confessions of a Met

I wouldn't be shocked if privately, Wright is livid over Reyes' departure. David is expert at keeping his livid to himself, but HoJo -- his baseball father, I believe he called him more than once -- is under no such constraints and probably channels him on some level. Plus David not so subtly has moved away from "whatever's best for the team" type statements and was nothing but stubbornly publicly hopeful Reyes would come back. As much as it can't possibly suck to be David Wright overall, it must kind of suck, at least in context, to be David Wright right now. It's Pete Flynn for fucks sake. "And you should see the subpar grade of Soilmaster they force us to buy now. We might as well be the old Marlins."