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Edgy MD Jan 09 2012 02:29 PM

Danny Herrera and Fernando Martinez. Whoah!

Ceetar Jan 09 2012 02:32 PM Re: Waived

not quite a Woah yet. If it's indeed true, it might mean nothing more than removal from 40 man. And there's also the option of being pulled back.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 09 2012 02:34 PM Re: Waived

fuh... I'd have guessed DJ Carrasco and Armando Rodriguez. I know it was mostly smoke and mirrors but Herrera was the bees' vagina last year.

Edgy MD Jan 09 2012 02:36 PM Re: Waived

I don't have no ESPN access, but if these are truly revocable waivers, then the Mets better clear some room in the next 24 hours, because there's no space to pull them back to. They could certainly clear, what with the health questions on Martinez and the height questions on Herrera, but I imagine an American League club might be curious. I like Herrera. Can't see the downside to waiving Carrasco. I guess he gets to declare free agency if he gets farmed out, but...

seawolf17 Jan 09 2012 02:39 PM Re: Waived

Edgy DC wrote: I like Herrera. Can't see the downside to waiving Carrasco. I guess he gets to declare free agency if he gets farmed out, but... ...there's that whole guaranteed contract thing. You think they're eating $1.2 million? No way.

Edgy MD Jan 09 2012 02:50 PM Re: Waived

It's a spent cost. If they've lost faith in his ability to outpitch the last guy on the roster, why not? And it's not necessarily eaten. He could certainly clear waivers. And he could possibly accept a demotion. We can dispute what it its, but there's a dollar sign on the value in Martinez and Herrera, also. We can just as easily decry the "loss" of the $1.4 million signing bonus Fernando Martinez got back in the olden times, plus the hunnerts of thousands in medical expenses.

Ashie62 Jan 09 2012 03:34 PM Re: Waived

Good bye Fmart you pussy little toad.

Ashie62 Jan 09 2012 03:36 PM Re: Waived

Edgy DC wrote: Danny Herrera and Fernando Martinez. Whoah! Not much regard for Justin Turner here either.

bmfc1 Jan 09 2012 03:58 PM Re: Waived

I also like Herrera. That slow pitch got a few outs last season although the Mets think that the pitch loses its effectiveness with familiarity. He was half the "bounty" for F. Rodriguez so I'm surprised that they gave up on him this quickly.

smg58 Jan 09 2012 04:34 PM Re: Waived

Martinez is out of options, so unless he made the team as the fifth outfielder, this was going to happen. Of course, going out and getting a fifth outfielder will necessitate somebody else being waived, too. I'd have given him the chance, personally. I don't understand why Carrasco is still on the 40. He'd clear waivers, unless somebody does us a favor. If he opted for free agency, we'd still save some money if he spends any time on somebody else's major league roster. Herrera may not be anything special, but he's more valuable than Carrasco. I'd hate to think we'd just let these guys get claimed when there may be room for the both of them.

Nymr83 Jan 09 2012 04:51 PM Re: Waived

Fernando Martinez? I wonder what the Mets could have gotten had they dealt him when he was still considered a "prospect", now he's gone the way of Milledge and Escobar, trade-bait gone rotten

Ceetar Jan 09 2012 07:01 PM Re: Waived

smg58 wrote: Martinez is out of options, so unless he made the team as the fifth outfielder, this was going to happen. Of course, going out and getting a fifth outfielder will necessitate somebody else being waived, too. I'd have given him the chance, personally. I don't understand why Carrasco is still on the 40. He'd clear waivers, unless somebody does us a favor. If he opted for free agency, we'd still save some money if he spends any time on somebody else's major league roster. Herrera may not be anything special, but he's more valuable than Carrasco. I'd hate to think we'd just let these guys get claimed when there may be room for the both of them. Fernando still has options.

Ashie62 Jan 09 2012 07:04 PM Re: Waived

Ceetar wrote: smg58 wrote: Martinez is out of options, so unless he made the team as the fifth outfielder, this was going to happen. Of course, going out and getting a fifth outfielder will necessitate somebody else being waived, too. I'd have given him the chance, personally. I don't understand why Carrasco is still on the 40. He'd clear waivers, unless somebody does us a favor. If he opted for free agency, we'd still save some money if he spends any time on somebody else's major league roster. Herrera may not be anything special, but he's more valuable than Carrasco. I'd hate to think we'd just let these guys get claimed when there may be room for the both of them. Fernando still has options. And a 23 year old arthritic knee..why bother really?

attgig Jan 09 2012 07:46 PM Re: Waived

it would be sad if this was really the end of fmart's met career.

Edgy MD Jan 09 2012 07:47 PM Re: Waived

And a 23 year old arthritic knee..why bother really? Because perfection doesn't exist in this broken world, yet still some light breaks through. And it's ours to search through all the broken places trying to find it.

MFS62 Jan 09 2012 09:31 PM Re: Waived

Edgy DC wrote: And a 23 year old arthritic knee..why bother really? Because perfection doesn't exist in this broken world, yet still some light breaks through. And it's ours to search through all the broken places trying to find it. Very poetic. Very true. There are a bunch of "imperfect" major leaguers. They're called designated hitters. Later

Mets – Willets Point Jan 09 2012 09:45 PM Re: Waived

MFS62 wrote: There are a bunch of "imperfect" major leaguers. They're called designated hitters. I thought they were called the New York Mets.

Ashie62 Jan 10 2012 07:50 AM Re: Waived

If you a part time OF and want to try to catch lightning in a bottle try Fmart.

Ashie62 Jan 10 2012 07:50 AM Re: Waived

Edgy DC wrote: And a 23 year old arthritic knee..why bother really? Because perfection doesn't exist in this broken world, yet still some light breaks through. And it's ours to search through all the broken places trying to find it. Sounds like Elvis Costello a bit.

MFS62 Jan 10 2012 08:44 AM Re: Waived

Ashie62 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: And a 23 year old arthritic knee..why bother really? Because perfection doesn't exist in this broken world, yet still some light breaks through. And it's ours to search through all the broken places trying to find it. Sounds like Elvis Costello a bit. Sounds more like Candide. Later

Edgy MD Jan 10 2012 01:10 PM Re: Waived

Toby Hyde documents the slings and arrows of Martinez's outrageous fortune.

metirish Jan 10 2012 01:28 PM Re: Waived

Edgy DC wrote: Toby Hyde documents the slings and arrows of Martinez's outrageous fortune. sad really

Ashie62 Jan 10 2012 09:17 PM Re: Waived

Wonder if Fmart has an education.

Edgy MD Jan 10 2012 09:21 PM Re: Waived

Why do you wonder that? The Mets gave him a big chunk of money to set aside for college when they signed him.

metsguyinmichigan Jan 11 2012 03:53 AM Re: Waived

Trying to figure out exactly what this means. Have the Mets cut ties with him for good, or does he come back with a minor league deal if not claimed by another team?

Benjamin Grimm Jan 11 2012 04:14 AM Re: Waived

He's still Mets property if he's not claimed. They'd be able to put him in the minors and off the 40-man roster. I don't know if another team that claims him would have to put him on their 40. If so, then that might be a deterrent.

Ceetar Jan 11 2012 05:28 AM Re: Waived

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He's still Mets property if he's not claimed. They'd be able to put him in the minors and off the 40-man roster. I don't know if another team that claims him would have to put him on their 40. If so, then that might be a deterrent. yes, they do. It's possible Sandy asked around a bit about trading him to judge interest and has an educated hope that he'll clear.

Edgy MD Jan 11 2012 06:29 AM Re: Waived

I'd say it's probable. How educated that hope is and how much stock Sanderson is placing in it are further matters, but there have been whispers for several months that the Mets were looking to move on from the Martinez adventure.

Ceetar Jan 11 2012 06:42 AM Re: Waived

Edgy DC wrote: I'd say it's probable. How educated that hope is and how much stock Sanderson is placing in it are further matters, but there have been whispers for several months that the Mets were looking to move on from the Martinez adventure. We'll find out soon. But him playing 'everyday' in the minors without eating roster space is probably the best option.

metirish Jan 11 2012 06:43 AM Re: Waived

Alderson has no emotional ties to the kid, if he evaluated his body of work and his body he'd not be impressed, and obviously he wasn't.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 11 2012 07:49 AM Re: Waived

Geez. If he coulda traded him I'm sure he woulda.

Ceetar Jan 11 2012 08:00 AM Re: Waived

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Geez. If he coulda traded him I'm sure he woulda. That was kinda my point on the I hope he clears front.

attgig Jan 11 2012 08:09 AM Re: Waived

Ceetar wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: He's still Mets property if he's not claimed. They'd be able to put him in the minors and off the 40-man roster. I don't know if another team that claims him would have to put him on their 40. If so, then that might be a deterrent. yes, they do. It's possible Sandy asked around a bit about trading him to judge interest and has an educated hope that he'll clear. not sure about a "hope" that he'll clear, but perhaps a realization that nobody would give up anything of any worth for him... Fmart became someone not worth trading for, but worth giving a shot.

Edgy MD Jan 11 2012 08:22 AM Re: Waived

Tracky tweeting that he's been claimed. By whom is not yet clear.

Ashie62 Jan 11 2012 09:52 AM Re: Waived

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: I'd say it's probable. How educated that hope is and how much stock Sanderson is placing in it are further matters, but there have been whispers for several months that the Mets were looking to move on from the Martinez adventure. We'll find out soon. But him playing 'everyday' in the minors without eating roster space is probably the best option. They keep trying that but he gets hurt, every time.

Ceetar Jan 11 2012 10:00 AM Re: Waived

so let's take him out back and shoot him, that'll help the Mets win.

attgig Jan 11 2012 11:16 AM Re: Waived

astros according to enrique rojas of espn. https://twitter.com/#!/Enrique_Rojas1/s ... 7734235136

Edgy MD Jan 11 2012 11:24 AM Re: Waived

Fernando Martinez at introductory press conference: "Was I someone's unwanted asshole?"

Ashie62 Jan 11 2012 11:38 AM Re: Waived

Ceetar wrote: so let's take him out back and shoot him, that'll help the Mets win. Thats an asinine comment, even from you.

Edgy MD Jan 11 2012 11:41 AM Re: Waived

Smashie, the world is full of hugs. Won't you share one with somebody?

Ashie62 Jan 11 2012 11:46 AM Re: Waived

I'll do my part!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 11 2012 01:50 PM Re: Waived

Hererra cleared waivers and is expected to sign a minor league deelio with the Mets.

Ceetar Jan 11 2012 01:51 PM Re: Waived

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Hererra cleared waivers and is expected to sign a minor league deelio with the Mets. I don't believe he has a choice.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 11 2012 01:52 PM Re: Waived

He can opt for free agency.

Ceetar Jan 11 2012 02:01 PM Re: Waived

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He can opt for free agency. I believe that was a false statement. Surfing the Mets: Source: If Herrera clears waivers, cannot declare free agency. Complex rules, but in baseballese this would be his first official outright. Chris Walendin @tpgMets @mikeaxisa Believe he has 1 left. Looks like options were used in '08 & '09, but not in '10 or '11.

Edgy MD Jan 11 2012 02:03 PM Re: Waived

He can opt for Japan! Korea! The Northern League! The Atlantic League! CHINA!